24 IDF soldiers killed Saturday in south Lebanon

I am a Hezbollah soldier, just checking my long list of one month old of unread E-mails, thanks to you?. I came across your site??? Where are your daily updates, are you too ashamed of your big defeat. By the way tell your people to multiply the 343 figure by almost 2 and about 970 injured. For crying out loud stop being an Israeli just for one lousy minute and tell the truth once in your pathetic miserable lives.

what is your source??? where did you get this '343' figure from?

its not fair not to publish my post "to ali / this is my address". the guy was threatening me and i answered him in a decent way. publish it please.

While I would prefer a cease fire, and a settlemment of the land issues between Israel, Lebanon, and Syria, I don't think it is possible. Any cease fire supported by Israel and the Bush Administration will be, at best, a temporary fix that will pass the fight to future genearations of Israelis, Lebanese, and possibly Syrians. By that time, Hizbollah or its heirs will have bigger and better rockets. I think you will have to satisfy your blood lust and create your own Flanders fields, before you face the reality of these conflicts effects you.

I guess that is what this mess is all about-body counts and who is telling the truth about how many precious lives they have extinguished. You are right, Nesrallah never lies. He has stated over and over that he wants to wipe Israel (sorry the Zionist entity) off the face of the earth. I guess the Israelis should just sit around waiting for their extermination (they are good at that-they have some experience).Nesrallah also wants a Muslim fundamentalist government in Lebanon at the behest of the Iranians.. That should really excite the Christian, Druze and moderate Muslim populations. You are right Nesrallah hasn't lied about anything. By the way the social programs he sponsors, Hitler did that to win over popular support.

"You should read other news reports not only arabic press." But you don't understand. The only other viable news alternatives are Jewish and Zionist controlled.

Erin’s your points are lucid and well made that most people in the know would agree with.. Unfortunately there are many people in the world that will never give Israel the credit for taking the moral high ground in the engagement. The numbers prevent that from ever happening. There are 1.3 billion Muslims and an unknown anti Semites in the world and even if just a percentage them were anti Israel anti Jewish you would see 25 to 1 postings on this board against Israel. Yes in hindsight the initial Israeli plan had flaws. It attempted to shut down Hezbollah resupply network and command and control centers and to destabilize Hezbollah with the shock and awe. The plan was to have minimized Lebanese and IDF casualties. (Note Mark I said minimizes-this is WAR and innocent people get killed.) If Israel intended to kill Lebanese you would see many times the number killed then that were actually killed. If Mark took himself away from his conspiracy websites he would see through the fog.

Nasrullah confirmed atleast 40 dead on Saturday, 9 tanks, and other losses..Haaretz claims 24... Jeez!! I believe Nasrullah, so far he hasnt lied about anything...forexample blowing up 2 israeli war ships, Israel denied them both, and then when video footage was shown, Israel was forced to admit it. Liars will never succeed.

It's about time to think differently. The source of the problem from WWI/II is the security council. It is about time address this issue openly and loud. The United States, Israel, Europe, and many other nations talks pretty much about democracy and its prevaillance in the Arab states; the first step is to annul the UNDEMOCRATIC security council. No veto power in a democractic system. The security council must be dismantled and replaced by a UN gouvernment elected by the UN member states. Any resolution by such a gouvernemnt must go through the member states. No more veto for anyone. If no, all the talk about democracy is rubish and unacceptable. If this is not achieved, I suggest that all UN member state withdraw and join Switzerland. Only then, a just peace will prevail. Else more AL-Qaeda like to come, more death, and definitely destruction to all nations including North AMerica, Europe, Arabs and mainly Israel. Think twice...No longer they will use conventional weapon..Think again

Check this, it has arrived. http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Mar2003/b03112003_bt110-03.html

Being a lebanese christian, i was astonished seing the defeat, unplanning, dis organised and the futile attempts of a myth army that I had in thaught. After couple of years of organising than deffinitely it will be much harder for israel. If you can't kill your enemy don't hurt, he will be more dangerous. Next time tel aviv is the target deffinitely.

hey juna if u are a pure lebanese u coulden't says this words it's a big fault to say that hezbollah is a big group in the lebanese society because all the shiaa in lebanon with them in addition a big part of the muslims sunna and christians and if u are talkin about the destroying all of the destroyed houses and buildings are habited from pple like hezbollah and the are not upset from them as u can see it's opinion from the lebanses channels

Why not to rename and compile the Bible ? Once for All ! The Holy Judeo-Islamo-Christiano-Facist Bible ! Only one religion for all the cretinous in the Wolrd. So everybody can agree with the Same and Unique Holy Foolishness and live together in Peace !

...when people who can't even run their own capital city want to run another country. ROFLMAO

dear i know our that no body will accept my point of view but i give you some ideas of how you safe your country it is reality that Israil is country but in coming days every muslim country have great weapons and air craft and more force and advanced weapons to fight now your country have time not start fight aganinst against please i personaly request you that this is a time make good realation with neighbour countries and live together there and show some good will and this is only way to you safe your country and nation please try to understand my point of view HABIB.

Your paper is portraying more truth then American TV media, that shows how scared Americans and British are from Isralies.

U R obviously very deep thinker,Ya lebanese.I am really ashamed that there R lebanes who look at the situation The way U R Looking at.i am shiet and I would be siding any sunni,mouranit and Durzi who would have a just cause to fight for.Most of our leaders in lebanon R cowereds and they do not speak their mind.I would respect someone standing up and saying,No huzbullah we do not want Shibaa farms,than back stabbing like they R doing or will be doing soon.the problem with people like u,is lake of common sense and judgment on things.I will spare my self from slipping with ur level of thinking since u r obviously need more education,and I would recommend logic classes becz these will definitly make an impact on ur judgment on things. Peace with deginity my lebanese friend or we do not want it.This is what the arabs forgot,including these what so called leading countrys like KSA and eygpte.

Can you just look more that your nose. Can you just advise us what were the objectives of your IDF. Yes, we can kill more of your IDF. and you can kill more of our civilians. Concrete is not a problem, we will always rebuild whatever you distroy, but be sure that you will never be able to distroy us. This is Lebanon, the most democratic country in ME. Suggest, that you pack your things and go back to were you belong (where your parents were born).

i am not threatening Israel, am saying that resistence will continue as ur terrorist country continues its occupation. and people will continue resisting whatever it takes. tell ur country to stop its terror and give back lands to their owners then there will be peace. your answer is an act of terror, you can hit us as much as you want, we have the will to continue and survive. resisting occupation is a right. i wonder if someone threw you outside ur house what would you do? leave him in peace and go find somewhere else to live in? cs this is what you are asking us to do. if you dont accept it to urself, you shouldnt accept it to others. LONG LIVE HASSAN NASRALLAH who will return our rights back!!

"very few hizballah have been hit as they dont have fixed base." Maybe you should try to get out of your own neighborhood more often. Or read your own newspapers; I prefer to assume that you are ignorant, not lying. http://www.menapress.com/article.php?sid=1479 Before the Israeli attack, Lebanon no longer existed, it was no more than a hologram. At Beirut innocent citizens like myself were forbidden access to certain areas of their own capital. But our police, our army and our judges were also excluded. That was the case, for example, of Hezbollah?s and the Syrians? command zone in the Haret Hreik quarter (in red on the satellite map). A square measuring a kilometer wide, a capital within the capital, permanently guarded by a Horla army [1], possessing its own institutions, its schools, its crèches, its tribunals, its radio, its television and, above all? its government. A ?government? that, alone decided, in the place of the figureheads of the Lebanese government ? in which Hezbollah also had its ministers! ? to attack a neighboring state, with which we had no substantial or grounded quarrel, and to plunge US into a bloody conflict. And if attacking a sovereign nation on its territory, assassinating eight of its soldiers, kidnapping two others and, simultaneously, launching missiles on nine of its towns does not constitute a casus belli, the latter juridical principle will seriously need revising.

in 1948, Israeli state was declared. Can you rememeber just prior to that what happened, and how many masacars jewish people committed? in 1956, when Abdulnasser, took over, France, UK and Israel started the war. jump to Lebanon History, 1978, you occupied part of our south. in 1982, started a huge war, and reached beirut. (masacars committed, Sbara & Chateela) 1993, anthore war, claiming for protection of your north, (Masacars committed) 1996, another war, protecting the north (mascars committed) 2000, withdraw partly, and leaving Chebaa Farms. 2006, starting a big war (masacars committed), because we got 2 soldiers of yours. why we took these, we still have lebanese in your prisons, and still part of our land not freed (maybe we don't have the right to ask for our rights). By the way, Lebanse Christians started resistance aginst israelis. shall I remind you of some names:1. Georges Hawi, a lebanese communist person.2. Antoun Saadeh, a great lebanese Leader (Christian), & more

Yesterday you said you want to achieve the Litani river. So why are you sounding the retreat in Khiam (3.5 km from border) ? Why not to go further ? Too dangerous ?

Khayber wrote: "check the reliable news TODAY (reuters + bbc)" Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha That was funny.

Simon says, "I am no military expert," You should stop right there, Simon.

25 killed,110 wounded,34 mirkava destroyed,1 helicopter destroyed in one day.The israeli has losen this war. Just leave our land.

In #51 Mark says "The Convoy was arranged by the UN, who asked Israel, and had been given permission for, the convoy and assurances of safe-passage." then in #78 Mustafa says "the convoy had been denied a request for permission to move but that it had set out anyway." Good grief, now I have to look for THREE versions of the story? Maybe if y'all waited more than five minutes to jump on this stuff you wouldn't look so abysmally hair-triggered. One would hope that the debacles in Qana and Houla would have taught you something. I guess not. Let's all jump0 up and down about the evil Israelis now and go oops later....2" high and buried on page 17.

Hezbullah is the true army of muslim ummah and Hassan Nasrullah is the true leader of muslim ummah.In the present arena the pakistan and arab govts.are puppets of kuffars.Thery are just protecting there assests and families in west.They ignored the ummah.They are aur real culprits. Best weshis for Hezbullah.

You are dreaming the Arabian nights. Israel has not lost this war. Hizbollah and the Iranian president have been asking for a cease fire. Their adventurism has caused much hardship on the Lebanese people. They have not achieved any of their objectives. They know how to kill, but they do not know how to win.

listen you have not seen anything yet.we have more of the same in store for you. misbehave and we will do it all over again.

haifa,bcz i think targeting civilians in haifa is wrong,and i think we r better targeting military personel only,no matter how difficult it is,however i did not hear anything from u about the 1000 lebanese killed till now,and 4000 injured by an army that have the most advanced targeting methods in world.thanks USA for this advancement in targeting.Anyway,I think that ur argument about difference in opinion,goes both ways.When our leaders met in discusions last few month,none of what we call "politicians" said bluntly what he wants,except Nasrallah,and u have to admit that,he told all of them that he will kidnapp soldiers.If none of them had the courage to say "NO" to him,(which I think is everyman opinion to say yes or no),then it is not his problem.Please,before start accusing people of cowerdness,egocentrisim,totalitarianisim,think before u write.We arabs talk to much &never learn from our mistakes.As for the jews,I have so many jewish frineds,i will spare u my comment.Ali

The Shia Lebanese live in the South. Why should they move '20 miles north' because they have rockets that can reach Israel? Let me propose a fair solution. Israel withdraws from the blue line the distance that it can reach with its F16s, and Hezbollah withdraw the distance it can reach with its Katyushas. Then the area will be clear between Gaza and Beirut, and we can live in the rural areas, preaching hate.

"Why your goverment is hiding the real figures?" Because IDF declares a soldier killed only when they have found all the fragments and gathered all the splashings of this soldier. If the puzzle is not complete, it's like he is not dead yet. It's the Law ! G-d only accepts complete carcasses.

Dear L.for lebanon. I think u need to read more carefully before writing words.Relax.Difference in opinion is a sign of health in any country.I can smell ur frustration w what is happening.It is time for us lebanese to say what we think,and do what we say.unfortunitly it takes more space to answer ur questions,so will have to write another response to u.1-if u r so patriotic and indiscrimint about relegions,then u should not worry if the resistance called islamic Resistance,or satanic one.second,I am not relegious,to say the least,but i admit that in last 15 yrs,99%of fighters(I am using word fighters bcz u might have a problem with marters)are islamic shiet militants.Being so,the sheit have never claimed that the rest of the cuntry is not resisting.I am against totalirism in anything,and i do not agree that Huzbullah should sololy decide on peace and war issues,but I do respect even my enemy when i beleive he has a cause.I am not going to comment on the 10 or 20civilians killed in

Previously, there was no UN resolution that requests hezbulla absence from the south. And even if hezbulla moved northly, Still it is able to attack Israel at any time ..

anyone else find it comical that a nation would drop leaflets telling civilians to get out of the way while at the same time bombing the roads and bridges leading out of the fighting? is it just me who finds it comical that a nation urges civilians to leave while saying if you are leaving in a car or truck we are going to bomb you with precision ammunition and then blame you for your death? is it comical that a state tells civilians to get out of the fighting zone while failing to realize that there is a shortage of fuel available to do so largely because supplies (medicines, gas, food) have been limited by an invading army? it seems to me that the leaflets have less to do with "saving thousands of lebanese lives" than to allow israel to deny targeting civilians. this is basically and effort to put the blame on the enemy for noncombatant casualties.

According to trusted American sources, 343 Israeli soldiers died in this war and another 615 are severly injured. Why your goverment is hiding the real figures?

Media Wars: Lebanon is the most democratic country in whole region. so Israelis are much more controlling the media. have you checked the interview of israeli spokesman on "Jazeera", during "super devora" sinking and live! Wake up, this is lebanon. no one have control over it. and no one will be able to do so in the future. To All israelis, admit your loss, and suggest you wake up from your big dream "promise land", because its a big lie, and soon you need to pack your things and go back to your homelands. There is nothing like "Jewish land", and there will not be any.

Israel is occupying Lebanon, and has been hitting south Lebanon, and not Hizballah. Israel occupies our land, not hizballah who's occupying Israel. we have right to defend ourselves and get our land back in year 2000, israel withdrawed from lebanon, but left a piece of land, that is ours, and we will fight for it till we get it back hizballah or other group, or personal attacks, whatever it takes we will get it back the problem in israel is that u hear ur liars and don't hear the truth. on the other hand, Hizballah never lied, and you can see that on the ground. we don't care whether u say we are terrorist or not, you own the major of the media in the world and can spread all the lies you want. WE KNOW THE TRUTH and that is ISRAEL IS THE REAL TERROR in the WORLD.

...the Lebanese posting here are indeed "The most hypocritical people on earth." http://www.menapress.com/article.php?sid=1479 Not to mention woefully ignorant of the history of the middle east as displayed in post #33 "make it look like everyone is out to throw you to the sea." Looks like y'all learned propaganda well from your fascist masters during WWII - tell a lie often enough and some fools will believe it.

...No UN Resolution will be enough to resolve the prob, especially when ISRAEL STILL DOESNT APPLY EARLIER RESOLUTIONS...so who are we fooling?.. Give the Arabs their land back in farms of shebaa and start serious negotiations...WE ARE TIRED OF THIS CONFLICT, it has taken a toll on all of us

admit it, you lost this war. and this is only the start. You will losse any future war with Lebanon. Its seems you forgot that this is Lebanon. The only reason for winning, is because we are a democratic country, and people are allowed to express and be innovative. suggest, you wake up. go back to where you came. that is your countries, not palestine. this land will come back to us.

From the first time Israel was miscalculated to Hezbollah. Now you should say that the super power will not only US but also Iran. Please think carefully if you want to live in the MidleEast today. The more samart weapon will be produced and you will lose again if your try to attack Arab. Please my brother stay on peace and be quiet with your neighboarhood. Follow the Japan, diarm himself to live in peace.

Hi Guys, Your PM is really very cleaver,to liberate 2 soldiers he killed more than 100 soldiers and distructed 100 tanks, 1 helicopter,NIS 23 billion, no tourism, no football, no sex, no shaouarma....and they are still not free.really clever, your PM and his war staff.

It remains beyond me how the need to win against the pawns of the Iranians gets translated into a message of hate from people like you Criss. It is sad because you seem to think that terms like "collateral damge" are inventions or maybe you think that by becoming brutal like the enemy is brutal, you are a bigger man. I do not love killing or war: it is a necessity to win it so that we will be able to live as equals with our equal Arab brothers and sisters; so that they won't dominate us, nor us them. Get your head screwed on right and don't embarrass yourself with talk of joy at anyones destruction: did you forget your Torah. Saving one life is saving the world. I condemn you for your un-Jewish sentiments.

The conflicts are not going to end until the 1967 lands have been returned and Jerusalem is either divided or made an international city for all the faiths. This must be seen as a reality by the Isreali public. The Arabs and the Jews are really cousins and they are the both Sematic tribes and they are related to each other by blood. Next time you ppl in Isreal call anyone war like, look at world war one when in Europe 15 million ppl were killed and again in Europe over 50 million ppl were killed, 6 million of them jews and other in the millions that were not able to make their suffering into an international holocust enterprise. The sands of the middle east will eventually shift against isreal and there will be a new reality, it's time to make peace. The 1.5 billion Muslims will wake up from their sleep.

From the way you right - you are merely putting together peaces of hate propaganda from your evil masters. Brainwashed to the extreme.

Why would Israel sacrifice another 24 dead soldiers and more than 100 more casualties, when they have already AGREED to a ceasefire Monday morning?!?!?!?!? It makes no sense to the widows, the mothers, the brothers, the sisters, of 24 more dead soldiers. So what is the goal here? To keep fighting for no reason? Why can't Israel just talk to Nasrallah, and say, if so many Lebanese support you, maybe you aren't a madman.

The ceasefire mean a big blow to the security for Israel. It has failed in countering and dismantling Hezbollah. The loss of 100+ soldiers during this mission just wasted. They should have finished the war.................

Did'nt you even fed up to be slave? One to be slave of pharaohs in Egypt, and now to be slave of Americans, by doing their missions and serving their interests in Middle East, and in same time risking yourselves? It`s time to change!

...of an article I read in the LA Times about an IDF raid to stop the missles from Gaza. Hearing the gunfire a mother and son went out on the balcony to see what was happening, and died. Even in LA we know better than that. "Many of the casualties were inflicted when the Israeli aircraft returned for a second bombing run when residents had gone out to the bridge to inspect the damage." Stay away from targets and gunfire. Clear enough?

katyosha still there, hezbolla still there, kidnapped soldiers still with hezbolla and hamas, civilians killed and showed who was killing civilians to the whole world(qana), 4th army in the world couldnt defeat hezbolla, merkava destroyed its image (dont think any country will buy it from now on), haifa hit, afula hit, khudaira hit (for the first time)Olmert should be out..

So Lebanon is distroyed, It took the UN 5 weeks to do anything.----- Lebanon now has no tourism, no money from it and will take billions to rebuild. Many people under the UN resolution will not be able to return to there homes or they will be shot by UN troops as per agreement. And if Hizbullah attacks again after the ceasefire Israel has the green light to lay total and complete waste to Lebonan from EU and UN. If I were Lebonese I would go after all Hizbullah members and bring them up on charges for bringing this on my Nation. So whos the victor I ask?

IDF can reach even to north of Lebanon, it's not the game, look how many soldiers died, it's irresponsible war from Olmert, oops, I didn't again. Isreal won nothing except bad reputation, Lebanese infrastructure will be belt back even better by the oil high prices and Iran support. Peace is better to Isreal, I believe next war Isreal will not exist!

Newspapers bring news about lebanese people saying Nasrrallah is a strong man, he is governing Lebanon, they admire him... even business media of Lebanon tell Hezbollah is strong in the country. They say Nasrallah is Che Guevara. They are greatly cinical. I think Lebanon deserves destruction, not only this, but 100 000 times more destruction. Sure they will find destruction, it just a matter of time. Stay and you ll see. I dont believe in those tears any more. I wish their destruction.

It's the only one I've picked up since I've been reading the talkbacks here and at the JP but it was a nasty one. After Norton took care of that one, I ran AdAware and found SIX tracking cookies. There are plenty of other sites that will show the fauxtography scams. Little Green Footballs, Ace of Spades and Riehl World are good and SportsShooter.com is a blog for pro photographers.

Why not read first? Just a suggestion. I mean since you dont even know that the Lebanese army does in fact exist, but is just an incredibly weak and poor army, you cant POSSIBLY understand the issue.

"This allegation of over 1100 dead is preposterous." And how did you come to that conclusion? I suppose it is ok to question that six millions jews could not have possibly died in Nazi Camps. Those in Lebanon really did die, just like those in the Holocaust, and we shall never forget that!

Same # of rockets, even sometimes more, are continued to be launched in to Israel. That is how some1 comes to the conclusion if the IAF are doing a job well done.

Susan, do me a favor and read W Churchill?s response (#1 - 12/08/06) to "War in Lebanon costs NIS 23b; government to approve budget cuts article By Motti Bassok, and come back and reiterate that: hatred is the source of Arab's problems. Muslims don?t hate Jews because they are of a different religion and ilk, and they don?t hate them because they think Muslims are better. Arabs have more tolerance than you give them credit for. You mentioned that since 48 Arabs have been attacking Jews and if it was up to them they would kill all the Israelis, and to that I say - what happened to the Jews between 1939-1945? And who was responsible for that? And who watched while that was happening Susan? Jews must look at themselves clearly in the mirror and realize their hatred, aggressive and vindictive approach to solving any conflict is the source of their problems. Here is a link to the article: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/749644.html Thanks Susan

Rather than wasting hours coming up with childish arguments about hezbollah winning the war, when our whole country is in chambles, why do not you get out of your rat hole, and start digging with your fellow shiites for the countless innocent Lebanese women, child, and the elderly that have died in this conflict. That is the least you can do for these poor souls that you killed just so that Iran could delay by several weeks UN discussions on its nukes. Since you caused these people to be sacrificed for the benefit of your Iranian masters, do not spend your time trying to defend them. They could not care less what you think. What they want and need is a proper burial.

I don't know why I am writing this. Haaretz seems determined to censor most of anything I write. But then perhaps the last liberal at that paper will have the choice. I do not know how to state this case in less than personal terms. Four weeks ago, on these forums, I was advocating the occupation of all of Southern Lebanon. Even further, because it was not clear that the very long range rocket was not a threat. I stated the opinion that bombing Lebanese civilians would not work. so called "conservatives" denounced both positions as "pro-arabe," "Antii-Israel, and antiSemitic." Now I discover my opponents want to take credit for my position and insist still that I am anti-Israel, anti-Semitic, and a godless commie liberal. Nice ay wto avoid admitting total error of the last four weeks. I was right, they were wrong. Now they insist that they held my position, and I their position. You can choose between my egoism and their perfidy.

JUST LOOK AT JPOST AND YNETNEWS AND OTHERS BUT FOR SOME REASON YOU ADD THE NUMBERS SO PEOPLE CAN LOSE SUPPORT FOR THE WAR.

ok, this is how it went. after one month of war, israel couldnt achieve ONE of the goals they set themselves, and promised their igorant people on jul 12th. they lost the war on all fronts, militarily and diplomaticaly. the IDF were taught a free lesson on the ground, killing 1130 civilians isnt how u win a war, and the UN basically saved their ass. this is to show the world how vulnerable the israeli army is, and how ignorant the israeli leaders are from thinking they could win the war,and impose their rules on the region. we won this war,and still have our dignity.WE DIDNT GO HOME WITH OUR TAIL BETWEEN OUR LEGS. i am lebanese christian, and after this war im embracing hezbollah alot more than before, just like the 4 million lebanese are today. cease fire is tomorrow, too late guys!

ok, this is how it went. after one month of war, israel couldnt achieve ONE of the goals they set themselves, and promised their igorant people on jul 12th. they lost the war on all fronts, militarily and diplomaticaly. the IDF were taught a free lesson on the ground, killing 1130 civilians isnt how u win a war, and the UN basically saved their ass. this is to show the world how vulnerable the israeli army is, and how ignorant the israeli leaders are from thinking they could win the war,and impose their rules on the region. we won this war,and still have our dignity.WE DIDNT GO HOME WITH OUR TAIL BETWEEN OUR LEGS. i am lebanese christian, and after this war im embracing hezbollah alot more than before, just like the 4 million lebanese are today. cease fire is tomorrow, too late guys!

Stop the needless bloodshed. Both sides will claim victory. Enjoy your empty celebrations.....1000's have died. Why? For what?

Has anyone noticed the especially bitter venom toward Israel and Jews evident in posts submitted by Europeans? My theory is that these poor losers are sucking up in advance to the jihadists who will soon be their masters. Kafka

1973=2006 Agranat Commission=TBD Commission (We can bet it won?t be called the Ramon Commission) David Alazar=Dan Halutz (Guilty) Eli Zeira, Aryeh Shalev, Shmuel Gonen= Amos Yadlin, Meir Dagan, Moshe Kaplinsky, Udi Adam (Guilty) Moshe Dayan=Amir Peretz (Squeaky Clean) Yigal Allon=Tzipi Livni (Squeaky Clean) Golda Meir=Ehud Olmert (Squeaky Clean) Then:According to the Report: "As long as political leaders accepts the opinions of their advisers, they do not bear any personal responsibility." Now: Nothing New.

Erin your points are lucid and well made that most people in the know would agree with.. Unfortunately there are many people in the world that will never give Israel the credit for taking the moral high ground in the engagement. The numbers prevent that from ever happening. There are a few billion Muslims in the world and even if just half of them were anti Israel anti Jewish they would outnumber Jews at a rally or by over 30 to 1.Yes in hindsight the initial Israeli plan had flaws. It attempted to shut down Hezbollah resupply network and command and control centers and to destabilize Hezbollah with the shock and awe. The plan was to have minimized Lebanese and IDF casualties. (Note Mark I said minimizes-this is WAR and innocent people get killed.) If Mark took himself away from his conspiracy websites he would see through the fog.

What you just said only confirms my point: Israel's IDF/IAF are murderous coward thugs who enjoy shredding civilians into pieces. While they lose the war against Hizbollah on the battlefield, they win the WAR CRIMES contest against civilians. Again BRAVO!

Ermine.... I dont blame you for what you wrote.... i can tell you missed History Classes. Israel did everything that is written in TERRORIST Dictionery..... and commited all kinds of ware crimes (Using Cluster Bombs, Phosphoric Bombs, Targeting Civilians....) Please visit http://fromisrael2lebanon.info/pa/index.php

Hizbullah will morph into the Lebanese Army? You Bet... Just for your information, the lebanese Army is made up of 60 (sixty) percent Shiites according to the London Independent. So, when the Israel Government agrees to the terms of the ceasefire, they will be agreeing to officially install Hizbullah next to UNFIL forces... with the full sanction of the Israeli Government. Hizbullah did not only win the war in the battlefield...

And after Israel pulled out from Lebanon last time, Lebanon was supposed to comply with a UN resolution calling for the ABSENCE of Hizbullah fighters in Southern Lebanon. If the Lebanese government had done so, Hizbullah would not have been there to attack Israel and this war would not have started.

IAF Won the war? If you believe the war was won by the hapless and indecisive Israeli 'Defence' Army, you can believe anything - including that the IAF, by bombarding women, children, aparartment buildings (and Ants...) they are engaged in anything but terrorizing the lebanese so that they can put pressure on Hizbullah... The reverse happened. Today 19 Israeli soldiers died unnecessarily. Hundreds were injured unnecessarily. A helicopter was shot down and five inside it died... unnecessarily. Israel is in deep, deep trouble unless it takes stock of what the Arabs can, today do seek a political settelement - and give up its epansionist aims. Possible? may be. But if that doesn't happen, don't rely on the US doing it for you.

since you did not like my previous comment about bombing the convoy, which was leaving;; MARJEYOUN WITH RED CROS AND THE REFUGEES FROM THAT TOWN .I WOULD LIKE JUST TO ASK WHAT IS THE IDF doing attaking more civillians and killing more of the israeli soldiers. i remember they acCepted cease fire. and another question does the IDF KNOW THE NUMBER OF FUTRUE MARTYRS HE IS CREATING IN LEBANON.

Isn't there is a case that the UN is protecting, saving, and abating the terorrists ? Not only in the present conflect in Lebanon where the UN calling shamelessly to stop the fight against a blatently terorrist organisation called Hezbollah but in all countries where the UN sending their green beret personals.The green beret that were sent to the Israel-Labanon borders were supposed to impliment resolution 1559 can't be trusted to impliment resolution 1701. Those resolutions don't worth the papers written on them. What a wast of time and money. Peace keeping forces never kept the peace. The United Nations are obviously an organisation of Ununited Nations. No wonder the terorrists business is so flourishing and going from strength to strength. As the song goes 'there is no business like the terorrists business' protected by United Nations Resolutions. Akram Zekaria

I am bitterly disappointed that Israel government sacrificed life of the IDF soldiers to spare life of the Lebanese by avoiding blanket bombing of the Hizbollah strongholds. Who decided the IDF soldier?s life is less valuable than life of the Lebanese? Let the Lebanese government take care of the Lebanese populations by disarming of the Hezbollah troops. Did you ask families of the IDF soldiers if they were ready to sacrifice live of their children to save lives of someone else children? Stop this BS with inner world of the other side. The rockets are coming from their side and killing Israeli population. Stop them whatever it takes with the minimal losses of the Israeli lives. There is no time for salon conversations now.

hey, what are you talking about; you thief president was friend with a lot of gentlemen like saddam, homeini, arafat, asad sr., so let him talk to his another friend nasrallah and save lebanon

I like how the Israelis report their progress. They say they reached the Litani, but there is no mention how many have reached or where on the Litani because obviously in most areas they are still far from the Litani. This is a good propaganda mission to reach the Litani in name in one day and then one day later the ceasefire comes...

visit this site www.leb-monitor.com and follow all links and u will discover the real face of this war

The world hates you, demographics threaten you, it's time to return to the 67 borders before you lose everything.

"Even a victorious army must stop to count its dead"-Napoleon. It seems that many Arabs and their supporters believed that the IDF would not lose one soldier and so rejoice when Israel loses a few. A tragedy no doubt for the soldiers and their families, but the IDF still operates at will throughout the whole of Lebanon while Nasrallah soils himself hiding under Assad's bed. This cease-fire will last as long as the lifespan of a fly, and your French protectors will run like they did in Abidjan before shoeless Christians and Animists. Argentino is most probably a lebanese muslim, la reconcha de tu madre.

Well i was reading all these posts and somehow i got curious about one thing. This all started because 2 Israeli soldiers were kidnapped. Was all this really for the 2 soldiers? PS:IAF did u think that they might have been in one of the shelters u had hit? or shall i say of course you know where they are. And if u do couldnt you just go and get them without taking the hassle of all that war. To israeli and lebanese people...we are just toys in the hands of the BIG politicians.we lost lives, you lost lives but the players still give speeches.

Have any rockets fallen on Israeli towns since 1701 was passed? It seems your 'terrorist rogues' are the only ones here honoring the wishes of the United Nations...

Get the IAF and the IDF out NOW. They are committing crimes and destroying a nation that will never forgive Israel for its crimes. Nor should they. Israel and the US say that Israel has a "right to defend itself." In 1984, as part of its contra war against Nicaragua, the US bombed the port of Corinto in Nicaragua, killing Nicaraguan civilillans. Earlier in 1983 the US invaded the tiny Carribbean island of Grenada, population 100,000. In 1989 the US invaded Panama in order to kidnap Manuel Noriega and along the way bombed at least 800 civilians to their deaths. Unfortunately, none of these 3 aggrieved nations were able to have the "right to defend themselves" because they were too small and defenseless, just as is Lebanon. By the standards reserved for the US and Israel, however, those 3 nations would have had the right to wipe out at least a third of America.

What are your information sources?

Palestinian rebel: How would you like to face India, the US, and Israel in addition to millions of non-muslims around the world who are waiting to strike at you? That day is drawing near and you will disappear like ether.

Now that Israel, with its sophisticated military machine and no will to use it, has accepted defeat, the way is paved for the Islamic empire to spread through Europe and America. Alahu Akbar.

C'mon Israel...See the light...your army is imposing it's excessive force and flexing it's muscles for one reason only. It must prove a point that it is not weak in the eyes of the US and arab world. When it actual fact, it is losing the ground war against Hezbollah. In a recent Washington Post article (I'll post the link to it later), an anonymous Israeli Commander admitted that Hezbollah has the most modern anti tank missiles in the world along with 3D nightvision equipment and satelite communications. The fact of the matter is, the IDF must somehow show that they have won militarily, when in actual fact they are getting bogged down deeper into mud. In return, Lebanon's infrastructure has been almost totally destroyed. BTW UN resolution 1701...where the clause about returning the two captured soldiers...Have Israel forgotten that the war was initiated by this incident. Negotiations and economic prosperity to ALL is the key to peace in the middle east...not wars.

I don't think you IDF CROWD have the guts to confront those brave men who stood tall to the most powerful army in the region (NOW IT'S A MYTH). It is all about hearts. By the way, GUTS come the heart and it is not given to anybody. PEACE TO THE WORLD!

not "rejoycing"... all IDF soldiers have families and their lives are as valuable as all lebanese lives or arab lives..the opposite of what your goverment thinks and even declared.. in any case! im just informing the poorly missinformed israeli users by its media..and whenever they inform casualities in the IDF they immidiately give u a high number of hezbola fighters killed.. just to update u.. 32 IDF killed more that 100 wounded.. 37 mirkava tanks destroyed and a commando helicopter with at leas 14 to 18 soldiers..

You still in Meeahmee? Como esta! I don't hate Israel Erin, but I cannot deny clear evidence. I am glad to see that the government of Israel is FINALLY waging the war it should have on day one. If they had, this war would already be over. The plan to force the Lebanese government to attack Hizbollah by systematically attacking Lebanese civilians and infrastructure was idiotically conceived and counter productive. As was the deep interdiction plan which did nothing to hinder Hizbollah and often devolved to ruthless sadism. The final idiocy of Olmert's war was the systematic targeting of relief convoys, Red Cross operations, and refugee convoys. This was raw sadism, utterly unnecessary, and will haunt Israel for ages. Now go take a long walk off the Haulover Pier.

HEY, ISRAEL....WAKE-UP TO REALITY AND STOP YOUR ARROGANCE, YOUR TIME FOR OPPRESSION IS OVER, YOU ARE NOW THE "HUNTED".

that the whole democratic world and other non moslem countries is under attack by Islamic extremists from Indonesia in the East, India,Afganistan, Iraq, Israel . Hezbollah and Hamas intitiated unprovoked attacks are part and parcel of Taliban attacking the Canadian Soldiers, part of the international stabilizing force there. All the Islamic terror groups act in coordination. That includes the terror cell uncovered in Toronto and the one in UK and Pakistan which planned to explode the airliners. You are blinded by your dislike of the Jewish state but the islamofascist exploit your dislike to divert attention from the Jihad they launched against the non Islamic world. Wake up and smell the coffee. Get real or they, Islamic Terror movement will behead defeat you. Israel is in forfront oft

There NEVER WAS Palestine.it was name given to the land of Judea by Romans after they conquered it 70 AD. Stop blaiming jews for Killing of Jesus ( your comment makes me think you are a typical muslim portrying yourself as christian ) to gain western support.Jesus was born to die and he said Father forgive these people.If you were christian you should Bless Israel.You ought to know what Bible says about Israel.I will bless them who bless thee and curse them who curse thee.You support of hizbullah makes me think that you are equally as guilty as them.

hey JO..im sorry to inform you that you couldnt be more wrong... lebanese are not divided.. the opposite! they are all united to form a new goverment without traitors like samir geagea! or amin jmayi! those were the ones cheering the israeli bombs and by your comments i guess you are one of themm... what happened to the "LEB forces" of samir geagea? why didnt they took control of beirut as they promised israeL? because lebanon was united! sorry..

To the French idiot who wrote this. This typical French stupidity.You know absolutely nothing about war. This is why the world has always come to your defense.You don't even stand up to anyone. Your government sells to Muslim terroists, in the name of money. You probably would not even defend your mother. Remember, it was Hezbollah who invaded Israel, who took hostages, and murdered people.France used to stand for freedom. Today it stands for NOTHING. You Frenchmen need to give your pants to the women, because you can't wear them

there will be family and friends who mourn. There are also civilians in Israel who have lost their life, and hundreds or more shocked and injured. I do not accept or approve Israel's brutal warfare against palestinians and Lebanon. My greatgrandma was a jew, and i can see the suffering among israelis too! Haven't jews suffered anough?? I wonder if Ehud Olmert is the right leader, he is sending Israel soldiers into a war - loosing their lifes, for what? this war is meaningless, stop it, make peace with your arabic neighbours!! I believe it is possible.

I really liked your post.Its the truth.Too bad none of the muslims will ever agree to it.They have their own version of truth " The islamic truth " that the land belongs to Palestinians its occupied.Their memories can never be refreshed no matter how many times you tell them about these so called Israel's Peace loving neighbors who tried to destroy Israel and even still to this date some of them openly call for its destruction. You have restored my faith partly in France didnt know that there were French people who actually knew about this history and were not scared to voice their opinion against these terror organizations. Cheers !!!

The state of israel was created by the USA and Europe after the 2nd.world war to solve a European problem..Nazism, ethnic cleaning of European citizens who were jews.Before that Palestine Arabs and Jews lived in harmony.The USA and Europe sowed the seeds for today's problem and are guilty of stealing Arab lands for European jews.Europe was incapable or refused to address discrimination and other abuse on their Jewish citizens.Today we see an Israel 'shouting wolf',yet practicing the very thing their European counterparts did to them during the 2nd.world war.How convenient to forget... We see the USA and Europe bias and discrimating and with double standards in it's policies in the middle east.This has created a breeding ground for hatred and extremists in the region and there can be no peace until there is justice..

Linicka,,, just want to give you the good news, Haartez is now saying IDF helicopter is down... Who is known for not saying the truth now? and guess what more choppers are following suite, just stay put to haaretz and hear the good news.

Yes Francois # 192, Vive la République, Vive la France. Thank you France, we love you all. God Bless you Lebanese Druze

Actually, from what I see on the news, what the IDF soldiers are wearing on their heads look more like a diaper

What you say in no way surprises me. Basically I am a peace-loving, well-meaning middle-aged woman: precisely the sort of target your diaper-headed Nasrallah loves. Let him get me. I'd sooner die standing up to his sort than kneeling and whining as the majority of your poor deluded young men do.

Hizbollah will in all likeliehood disarm and simply morph in the the "Republican Guard" equivalent in the official Lebanese Army. Imagine for a moment what these soldiers, who have held a MUCH larger army at bay with a rag-tag assortment of aging and technologically inferior weapons, have done to an Army who has the luxury of being equiped with the best / most technologically advanced weapons America has to offer. Lebanon has the legal right to defend herself and there is no doubt that these very same fighters will now be equipped with weapons equal to, or at least appoximating, those of the IDF. How is the IDF to defeat an equally equipped force with a far superior tactical superiority as just proven in the past 4 weeks. I don't think there is a man left on the planet outside of Israel who doesn't agree that Nasrallah has proven himself to be tactically superior to any IDF General and the Hizbollah fighters are certainly craftier and better prepared than their IDF counterparts.

How wonderfully apt that the german language would have as descriptive a word as kindermorder. After all who else needed to create such a "label" ?

Is killing & violence the only language you understand Lavi. To begin with Israel as a country should not exist & that is according to your books, well now it exist why not live with the neighbors in peace ? I mean fair peace. Why massive killing of people. Anyway, I hate to tell you, in this war Israel was nothing but a tool that was used by others to achieve their goals. Keep up the oppression, the violence, the killing, just remember there is God up there,& he is the greatest & way stronger than Israel, Fair to the all the people of the world, so be careful from the day when God's anger, curse, & anger will be upon those who killing, & violating the simplest human rights. ( just think , bombing during a funeral...how low ??? ). Anyway, my brother, I ask God who created you & me to wake you & your people up & lead you to the right path.

HIZBULLAH SAYS. Key words, here. They are not known for adherence to truth.

Israeli reminds me of the main character in the movie "Carrie" when after she is slighted and humiliated she goes berserk, causes major devastation and tries to kill everybody including those not involved in the prank. Israel's strategy should be called the Carrie Defense.

I cant help you, but only sorry for you. Wake up.. Sayed Nasrallah is going for you too.

u all thought that your troops will enter south lebanpn exactly like intering gaza,or nablus, u thought you will treat these fighters exactly like treating poor unarmed people in westbank!! u were wrong, don't blame this poor olmert, because he just explaine to you what is seeking for freedome means, in south lebanon, or here in palestine which u called -israel-, from me i am telling you .. to be continued :), see you soon.

Well, when 2000 soldiers are landed by air over-night, and 40,000 soldiers sweep over the land thunder-fast, errors and losses are bound to take place. Each soldier lost is a tragedy, but in tactical terms the numbers are very low.In fact, I think you should know that the Hezb at this point is in very grave shape. While their fighters are brave and will fight to death, they are completely cut-off and close to exhaustion. The only danger is that the IDF will get more appetite as the Hezb is finally nearing collapse

It is quite astonising to hear this after 1000 dead civillians. Was it worth it? What is so startegic in Shaaba farms and kept prisoners? Just sutisfy those demands and there will be peace and if there will not be peace, then Israel will be 100% morally right. Worth trying? After all you can capture the land and prisoners back in no time.

You and your feeble brethren might have thought about this before successively welcoming the PLO, Syria and Hizbullah into your so-called sovereign land. Regrettably, you emulated your earlier "masters" - the cheese-eating surrender monkeys.

It seems to me that you are counting every dead Israeli soldier. Are you rejoycing? At the end you'll be sad to see another Arab defeat. Sorry my friend.

Peace worker needs to learn how to spell, Lebanese are dying because of that terrorist called Nasrallah and because the idiots in France that support him. If Hezbollah were real men and not cowards then innocent people would not be in danger

Hi, Heroes of IDF, in Germany we call guys like you KINDERMÖRDER! http://waronlebanon.bravehost.com/casualties.html

all the shiite fascists here that try to present a "lebanese front" against Israel are simply miserable liars, and they know it. What those thugs have done to Lebanese civil society is dissgraceful. Beirut's espresso lovers only now learn about the extent of what was happening under their noses, the extent to which their country has been hijacked by foreign radicals. can you imagine Zilzal fired to tel-aviv and its consequences? the IDF is doing the dirty job from which Lebanon is the main beneficiary. People were practically cheering when the Dahye, and Haret neighborhoods in Beirut were bombed.

Nasrallah is teaching u a very big lesson of dignity, morality, ability and above all more clever than yr Olmert and whole clan of yr Govt.

In a feverish madness the Israeli people are pushing their governement deeper and deeper into the war. Isnt it enough for you that you significantly weakened Hezbollah, does your ego really not give you a pause till you have killed the last remaining Hezbollah fighter (and with him dozens more of innocent civilians ?) Maybe your motto is : "If our reputation in the world is ruined any- way, we can do whatever we like" Well, it may surprise you, but your reputation can still get a lot worse.....

I am whleheartedly with Israel and feel sorrow about the israeli soldiers, civilians and northern lebanese people. I hope those hesb allah gang will totally be wiped and Lebanon will be freed from islamic gangs and terrorists and their murderous helpers then will be time for whole world to take action against Iran of course. Unless Iran is defeated the islamic terror threat will not be eased which is the mother of international terror governed buy dictatorship.

You have now seen the true Arabs and Muslims. If you are losing to a couple of thousand militants in Lebanon how will you respond to 1.3 billion lions?

Why Israel call their army not "AOC" ? Description "Army Of Cowardice" match their behaviour much better than actually IDF or IAF. Are they also able to fight against an equally equiped enemy than unarmed women and children ?

before you mention we are one sided read your histor and see how muslims protected jews so many tiome , Yet some arab country have jews and they all so respected , our problem is not with jews and their tradition our problem with Zionist movement that took muslim land in palesian and clamied it to be theirs in 1948 . the struggle is not over religion it is over justice . Saddam houssein rise to power like any arabic leader as puppet against his people so we don not reprsent houssein not others . but our madness is Why our blood become so cheap and our country become trial zone for the agressors modern tech . Susan answer me where is Iraq weapon of mass destruction ? USA and Isrel want control oil sources for money that both lot jews and most american worship you GORRET GIRL ?? TAKE IT EASY done be lasher and hater

It amazes me how Israel can justify all these civilian deaths by constantly claiming "it was a mistake". How many mistakes can one country make in 30 days. Since they could not defeat Hizbollah, they turned on the civilians. This in turned made them feel more manly and invincible. If killing women and children make the IDF feel more like men then I guess that expalins everything. A country that was founded on terrorism claims everyone that dislikes them are terrorist. What a joke. If any one won this war, it is the LEBANESE people, not Israel and no one else. They have sacrificed the most. May God be with them all.

Vive la République, Vive la France.

Hi Bor! You had questions about defensive nature of:bombing the road Arida-Tripoli, which only prevents humanitarian aid coming into the country. - bombing Sidon, some 30km North of the Litani. 1. The Arida-Tripoli road is one of last roads used by Syria to transport more "war crime" rockets (ball bearings) to your boys; 2. Sidon is major capital of Hizbullah and contains Iranian command and control bunkers. Any more questions, just ask! Write often. Your Pal, Yonatan. Shalom!

Hizbullah says it shot down an Israeli helicopter carrying 18 IDF soldiers in Maryamin Valley west of Bater

4 IDF killed or kidnapped by HIZBULLAH

Thanks for letting me reuse a subject again, Olmert.

Beyond the small talk of pro-israelis guys or pro-hezbollah guys, beyond everything, the return of all this war is that the image of Hezbollah is strengthen and the image of Israel damaged. I am convinced that both sides will learn something for the future. The anti-israeli hate has got a new blow, but Hezbollah has demonstrated they can engage the Israel's Army and keep the course. I am an observer and I don't want to spend my energy in hating a side or another and maybe this was good to me. As I observe now is that Israel is in defensive. Why? Because its image is so badly damaged. I meet people saying : "... and they are claiming for Holocaust? If yes, what about this Holocaust? Will go unpunished?". Of course, me I can argue this oppinion, but as I said, I prefer to observe. Muslims? I am sure that many of them have no idea about what jihad with the pen might mean...

i dont have a clue to what your talking about.since when did the arabs give me anything?if you dont mind,next time speak in full sentences and dont be sorry for me,its your country that has sold out to the arab terrorist.

" The whole world hates Israel." I don't think so. The Arab Sunni countries have been too quiet during the last month. "Hizbollah has become a hero and everyone will rush to give it money and weapons." Except for Iran, I don't see who will be so nuts to support such a cancer. They are doomed for extinction. Hezbolla will have a very hard time exoplaining to the avbrage Lebanese citizen why Lebanon was completely destroted while they were trying to defend it. " We made the Israeli leadership look completely incompetent." So, what do you think of the lebanese leadership. "There`s more but my hands are tired from typing" I'm sorry. Shalom

All the Israeli army has done is kill women and children...they keep bombarding the dahia in beirut every day even though they know that there is no one left there..but they Bomb any way. It shows you the hatred and anger of the Israeli army for being defeated on the battlefield..Israel has suffered it's worst defeat ever both militarily and politically... shame on Israel, Long live Lebanon

I suspect your reasoning ability resides far farther south than that of the rest of us.

You are the fanatic coward; you only care about a gang of armed militia that happen to be called islamic resistance not lebanese resitance. Lebanon does not belong to iran or syria or hizballah. there are different religions in Lebanon and that's what made it so unique in the middle east. If it was not for islamic fundamentalism and the likes of Nasrallah who is supposed to be a religious leader not a gang leader killing civilians in Haifa b/c they are jewish. It is so sickening to have people like yourself accuse other lebanese of being cowards for not wanting to destroy lebanon and for not wanting to kill all the jews. Are you asking for the address so you can kill the person who happen to have a different point of view?

1) If Israel was targeting civilians for no reason but to get its kicks...you would have over a million dead lebanese right now...so stop this ridiculous line of thought...It makes you look more prejudice than you are. 2) If someone came into your home and kiled your wife and child and took two more of your children hostage any of you would react (agreed?) 3) Its amazing how much you haet Israel for no reason..If israel reallly wants to kill Arabs than over 1.2 million Israeli Arabs would not be living better lives than most other Arabs living in poverty-dictatorships 4) I am surprised israelis have used so much restraint..Iam surprised they have not Napalmed each town one by one like the Americans did in Vietnam to fight a guerilla force. 5) Final point most european media is biased agianst israel to appease large muslim communities in their countries...its SO obvious. 6) Shut it.

Listen. The Hezbollah is maybe stronger or not. You declare that, like you are a part of it. I can tell you, and it is a fact and not hypothetic that Lebanon has gotten in 1 month the biggest lost of their history. They will remember it, believe me. They all remember. Next time, if there is, it is not 10% of Israelian army which will reply, but the all world, with 100% of the Israelian army. What do you think. Read answer of 154, of a Lebaneese gentleman, not living in the USA, but in Beyrut. Nasarella can play Play Station if he likes fighting. When will you understand that this person is already Deja Vu, passé...and it is the start of his end !!! The history will remember him aside Humeini, Hitler, Mussolini. He brought the destruction of his own country just to fullfil his ego and frustration. What a shame.

I see you are sitting in the comfort of NY and are not one of the victims of this war. I wonder if you compatriots in Lebanon feel the same way. I always said you people always cut your own noses to spite your own faces. The Palestinians have been doing this for years. They care not how their actrions affect themselves, as long as they kill a few Israelis. They care not if they get a state or not, as long as they kill a few Israelis. Great thinking!

I think , that before calling an attack that killed some 20 or 40 people as murder by the israeli air force , someone try to remember the air attack of the british air force on the city of dresden , where many thousands were killed IN ONE DAY and ther was no comment in any newspaper of WAR CRIMES . Israel is fighting for her life . The Hizbollah is fighting for the glory of some fake god who promises virgins in a heaven of his own . Tell me , has any shahid ever come back to tell those brave katusha slingers that there really are virgins in their heaven ?

There seems to be quite a few ignorant third worlders posting comments. Here goes. Israel had over 1 million experienced soldiers in palastine in 1948 from countries involved in WWII. Israel ATTACKED egypt in 1956 AND 1967. It also attacked Jordan, Syria. It has attacked Lebanon countless times since 67. It has attacked Iraq in 81. It has attacked Tunisia (in the eighties). It has murdered civillians across europe since 72 through Mossad. Who's the belligerent? Jews HAVE THE RIGHT to live in the holy land. They HAVE the right to worship in Jerusalem. This has been the case since the Romans (3rd century). ARABS- distinguish between Jews and Zionists. Zionists - stop oppressing the weak because you can. Have some morals. Palestinians are humans too.

NASRALLAH HAS RUINED A COUNTRY FOR HIS OWN SICK MEANS, NONE CAN TRUST THIS DEMENTED MAN, HE IS NOT WORTH THE PAPER WE WRITE ON, ISRAEL SHOULD NOT STOP UNTIL THEY GET THEIR 2 SOLDIERS BACK,THE IDF HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB, THE PIOLTS HAS WORKED NONE STOP AND SHOULD BE RIGHTLY AWARDED,, GOD BLESS THEM, AM YISROEL CHAI,KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK OLMERT, DON'T WORRY ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE SAY,YOUR DOING A GREAT JOB

7 soldier killed by hezbollah and 80 injurned today. The Hezbollah is to strong for you.

How many Iraqi civilians have been killed by Moslems in the past 2 months? Oh, I forgot? If Muslims murder it's okay.

Maybe you should read this first before any further comments http://www.detroitnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060724/NATION/607240360/-1/ARCHIVE

I tell why you defeated, IDF have slaughtered 1000 civilians (400 chideren, Hezbollah is fair but not coward like your army just go for the children killer. ALthough the army cross Lebanon border with help of USA, Hezbollah teaching you every day many lessons. The history will remind you when the state of Israel will become not valid for this world. Sorry, I forgot to remind you that Hezbollah is stronger than before and will be as war goes on.

Ok, Let's hear what type of logic is going to try to be presented for this latest killing of innocents. First the Red Cross requests for permission to evacuate refugees. The IDF refuses to give permission for the evacuation. Then the IDF drops yet more leaflets on the area indicating that they are going to commit to yet more bombings. The Red Cross indicates it's going to go ahead with the evacuation anyway and has confirmed that the evacuees are refugees and not hizbollah in hinding. The IDF goes ahead and fires upon a refugee convoy anyway? How on earth is that not TERRORISTIC? Scare innocent civilians that they will be killed by bombing yet at the same time tell them if they try to escape the bombing then they will be killed anyway. If you stay, we will kill you. If you leave, we will kill you. Did the IDF prefer that the civilians kill themselves instead? What other option is left? Dispicable....

You should read other news reports not only arabic press. It is your eyes the wool is being pulled over.

update tour news, 11 IDFs were killed so far

to JO,here in France we respect everybody, not like you,i'm not anti-israel nor anti-semitic, also not anti- arab, and i respect all people's ideas and i don't call them idiots like you in israel. when i see that hizbolla doesnt begun to kill civilians untill a lot of lebanese children has been killed, and even the palastinian we see them killed everyday without negotiating with them, even palestinian deputes are in israel's prisons, what democratie is that.

#1, you are mistaken and #153 is right. Not only the publicly known terrorists suporting countries he names, but the whole world is ready and anxious to help rebuild, feed and rearm hezballah to the prekidnap glory and beyond. After all, somebody has to do the dirty work of eliminating Israel and, let us face it, Lebanon will not be able to help since it is going to be left without any means of its own and, in spite of Senioras tears, nobody cares (specially the arabs).

I am agree with you Ben, but, in Israel, it is not normal that the citizen are the victims. The army is there to protect the them. Today, so far, not so many Katyusha were fired to Israel, again, many lives of Israelian and Arab citizen have been saved. The army in Israel, contrary to some european army is available for fighting and there are always victims and more will come. So far, more than 20.000 persons died from war and terrorism in Israel from 1948. This is our destiny. Israel is doing now the right thing, despite the cost.

So israel completed all resolutions? There are still a lot of other resolutions to be completed. For example, 446, 451, 465, regarding Israeli settlement activity in the Occupied Territories. Israel under this government is more a fascist regime than any former. killing of unarmed civilians is a fascist act,like the big brother amerika is doing in Iraq. Dutchman in israel is talking like the Dutch Government,but I am also a Dutchman but don't agree with this war. I hope this time my coments are published,the others where not,has that something to do with The Netherlands government is a friend of Israel and Haaretz does not like to hear negative Israel comments from the nNetherlands?

Ali, he is not a lebanese, he is as you well have said a real coward, he using Lebanese nationality to reflect division.

Your post reflect what sort of person you are. The arabs taught you how to read, write and introduce to you collage and university and the materials to study at them. I ask, did miss all of this?, but you may are on time, take your chance, never is late. Sorry for you.

If your really lebanese and ur proud of being, give your adress you coward.

The IDF and IAF operates at will througout the whole of Lebanon and you call this strength and victory? Any more victories like this and you will be rubbing two sticks together to make fire. Many people can make "pledges" of assistance, let's see how much money actually arrives to rebuild a nation doomed to destruction if you contine with your Hezbollah lovefest? You are lucky that Israel has so far been moderate in it's attacks but I would not rely on that indefinitely. I hope you Lebanese have enough candles.

LOL. HA is stronger today then it ever was before this war, HA has over 90% support in Lebanon, Lebanese civilians were killed by IDF bombs not by Hizbolla. Outcome: The soldiers will be returned as part of a prisoner exchange, Shebaa farms will be returned to Lebanon, Lebanon will rebuild, Hizbollah is the people of the south - they are going nowhere. Hizbollah's demands are being met! If you were truly Lebanese you would know this. Who are you trying to fool?

The tactic of your army so far is causing as much damage and killing to the infrastructure and civilian to weaken Hezbollah which is totally immoral and unacceptable in the international law. You know how many mothers, fathers, (grandfathers /mothers), and children you have killed so far, these innocent people have nothing to do with ware; despite all bombing on lebanon , rockets are still raining down on your head ,I'm wondering what your army has dachieved so for except killing more civilian and destroying more infrastructure ,if you want to fight Hezbollah you know where their hideout ,but you have chosen to bomb the civilian instead ,thinking that they well pressure Hezbollah to stop fighting but the result was the opposite all Lebanese are standing behind Hezbollah at least for the ware time, which is something very hard to imagine at this time.

Israel heeded calls for "restraint" and dragged out this conflict. Finally its politicians have got the message and permitted the military to apply sound military doctrine and deploy the necessary forces. With its weapons destroyed and much of its Iranian-trained cadres killed or captured Hezbollah's ability to dominate a civil war in Lebanon is gone. Its only hope is to leverage its conflict credentials into political control.

I believe the Israelis should seriously contemplate voting in Livni as the next prime minister. She has clearly demonstrated shes much smarter than Olmert, Peretz, Peres and Netenyahu. Should that happen, i think we Lebanese would then be able to have serious direct peace negotiations with an intelligent Israeli official.

We were thinking that the iDF is a lion, we dicover a donkey destroy every thing around and it scares not a cat.

Since the Israeli govern had accepted the UN resolution and since they confirmed that the cease fire will take place on Monday morning ?....Now I am asking Olmert why you are going ahead with your aggression, today 7 IDF soldiers were killed in fighting and 11 were seriously wounded and about 60 others were moderately wounded.....why sending soldiers to meet death? ....I think Olmert and IDF are trying to cover their failure.......since you are not able to change the situation on the ground and since you are loosing the war I suggest that you save your soldiers and go back home you stupid

Nasralla said 2 month ago: "sending lebanese army to the south is forbiden & considered high treason".Today he said "I accept sending lebanese army and UN to the south".2 month ago he said "south lebanon is the heart of hizbolla & no body on earth can make us leave it".Today he said:"we are willing to withdraw behind the litani river".2 month ago he said:"hizbolla weapons is a red line & we will cut every hand that tries to take those weapons from us".Today he said:"we will discuss hizbolla weapons with the lebanese government internaly".And all of us know that he will lay down those arms very soon.2 moth ago he said we will bring all our prisoneers back,today,he never mentioned them.hewanted "chebaa farms",he forgot it today in his speach..This is the end, what hizbolla achieve from this war is destroying lebanon,displacing & humiliating all his shiit people,killing & wounding 5000 lebanese,making lebanese people goes back to the stone age.Merci Hassan Nasralla,u r defeated.

Guess what most of South Lebanon are Hezbollah and your wrong assumptions is certainly out of context. Hezbollah will rebuild what Israel has destroyed with the help of millions of arabs, with the help of hundreds of thousands of institutions and tens of rich countries including Iran, Venezuela, and many of the proud golf state. You are dam wrong, Hezbollah has come out of this VERY VERY VERY Strong. Don't mislead your self or others. This is what lacks seriousness being objective.

oh tedious one.the only weasel is you.

The Israelis were calling for war to end Hezbollah, 32 days of heavy bombarding on Lebanon but those Israelis will learn a lesson that the force they have isn't enough to fear a cat.

All the people from all parties who will die today and tomorow is a shame I believe Mr. Olmart and co should send their sons especialy today to the front line. guys I believe you have a wonderfull minister (Livni)of foreign affairs Mr Olmart should listen to her from time to time .

You forgot the "blood libal". When you stop teaching your children to hate as you were taught to hate there will be peace.

This is a message to the Israelis that the resistance in Palestine and in Syria will learn from Hezbollah that the liberation is only by the resistance.

Why is Olmert still trying to push into Lebanon and cause deaths on both sides when the war cannot be won militarily against Hizbollah by his own admission? Why would Olmert cause more deaths and distruction when the UN resolution has already been accepted to end the war? What would Olmert tell the family of a soldier that will be killed tomorrow - The end result of the war is now accepted by everyone so your son died to help my image? Neither Israel nor Hizbollah will be destroyed and to think that an IDF push to the Litany will change the outcome of this war is ludacrice. More IDF soldiers, Lebanese civilians and a few HA fighters will die - for no further gain to anyone. How stupid!

weLL..againn Haaretz doesnt share the information of the war as it is happening so here i go.. 17 Soldiers , 60 wounded , 21 Mirakava tanks only today..Saturday 12.. as the leader of hizballa declared that today south lebanon was a grave yard for the indestructible Mirkava 4 tanks..

Israel withdrew from south lebanon and Gaza strip to show good faith???!!! You must be joking...Israel understands only one language...and it withdrew from these two places BY FORCE.

What a stupid war and a stupid move from Olmert. They will withdraw within a week and he keeps pushing them pretending that he is winning the war. Poor soldiers that are dying in vein. Give peace a chance!

your a lier and an islamic one at that.of those 1100 leb civillians that you speak of,how many were actually hezbullah fighters,hiding under women skirts.israel didnt unleash all its military might because of pussies like you running your mouth when,in war someone gets killed.your a joke and so is your pussy country!

why increase army if you plan on end to this war , it is obvious that israel will try to gain in diplomacy what it failed to do in war . Now the IDF will act as it is neutralist force to make sure cease fire take effect and wait for internationl troop to come in maybe sometime this century . by next century before internationl UNIFEL comes israel will claim that part as it is own just like what it did in palestian and ofcorse is any lebaness says this used to be our land the israel will cry for the holocaost call them anti semetic anti bla bla bla and call for back up this world if a joke , n o matter how long lies and power force unjustice the justice will prevail at the end

There were jews for 2000 years but not a jewish state (what do you call arab jews- unless you ment that real jews are white european jews) there was no jewish state for 2000 years, so who gives you the right to take our land, palastine is ours, and it will get back, every inch of it we will get it back, and i will tell you how, first because history repeates itself and the same way you were kicked out before you will someday, and lebanon is the start, the day america falls appart and you have no country to give you billions of doolars worth of weapons is the day the whats called an israeli state will come to an end. by the way we have done so many mistakes but we did not kill JESUS. May God bless the lebanese resistance (HEZBOLLAH) and keep killing every IDF steps on our lands.

this article is worth to read in yahoo.com http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/11/AR2006081101398.html Called: Learning From Hezbollah May upset non Hezbollah supporters. But u r on time.

I hate to make this personal but your ongoing tirades about the terrible State of Israel lead one to believe that you are either ignorant, which does not seem to be the case, or that you have a specific agenda and are a shill for the Islamofacists. It’s too transparent to be otherwise. I wonder if you would have been a supporter of the Nationaal-Socialistische Beweging another good meaning fascist organization. I don’t think many readers know about the Jew killing NSB so we will just keep that between us.

Israel's gov't says it agrees with the cease fire yet continues with a build up of forces and continues with its incursion into Lebanon indicates bad faith on its part. It's clear that it seeks punitive action against the Lebanese citizens. In light of the foregoing, Hezbollah's response that it would cease action when the IDF will stop it's military incursions appears reasonable under the circumstances. Either Israel's administration is willing to adhere to a cease-fire or it does not. It is abundantly clear that Israel is not sincere in seeking a peaceful and diplomatic resolution.

Could it be that there is a major attack on central Beirut or anywhere else,b4 7am???

Ah, the french and their facts... Don't bother with facts...this is a common anti-israel/anti-semitic reflex. You say Israel has Lebanese hostages for 20 years. Are you, by any chance, familiar with the fact that they are all spending time for severe criminal offenses -- 2 of each executed acts of terror againt civilians (one killed the Haran family in the north, the other participated in one of the most traumatic acts of terrorism ever to take place in Israel in the seventies). Another of thoses "hostages" is a jew spending time for espionage. Then you talk about land.. the UN has acknowledged that Israel withdrew from all Lebanese land in 2000. Lebanon's issue is with Syria, which can legally transfer the Shebaa farms to Lebanon but refuses to do so. WIth your limited brain you also don't seem to wonder about the timing of the attack on Israel, nor about the reasons Hizbollah has been invseting hunders of millions preparing to confront Israel (hint: a crazy farsi monkey). french.

More lebanese civilinas were killed today, 15 civilians,most of them children and women, were killed in an israeli attack.Who is responsible? It is after all israeli weapon and it is after all israel that started shooting rockets into Lebanon since Olmert choosed an open war instead of exchange of prisinors. Olmert could had save a lot of souls but he choose the tragical way.It was not before Israels shelled civilians in Lebanon that Hezballah responded back. The issue that the war started for 32 days ago when Hezballah captured 2 israeli soldiers is only a manipulation. The war is existing since decades since Israel was still occupating large areas of southern Lebanon and they were/are holding several lebanese prisinors, and they are keeping away the map over the mines that were placed in southern lebanon from all the world.These points make Israel responsible for the war.

I'm from a country that abolished the army forces in 1948 and their funds were moved to promote education in which the word is used as an unique tool to solve any controversy. When Central America, except Costa Rica, was affected by a war, because of social inequality, Costa Rica President Arias created the Esquipulas Plan that consists concessions between the guerrillas (the poor people) and the Central American governments (the rich people), Arias was Nobel Peace Prize 1987. Concessions would be the solution like the Oslo Treaty. I wish Yitzah Rabin would be alive, because he was a man of concession, not of force.

Come on, the Libanese do not want to serve Khamenei ever again at their own cost. That is something that will become clear soon.

gassan, you are nothing more than another american target to the terrorists you attempt to defend. Israel is indeed good at killing the children the coward terrorists hide behind. how does it feel to cheer on a coward's mentality? the terrorists deserve no mercy, and in the coming years will get none, including in the united states.

What a rubbish. Blinded by hatred you haven't realized that Israel withdrew from Lebanon by 2002? And the "liberation by force" you are longing for...I'll tell you: You will wait in vain!!

Look elie, Like it or not, IDF goal were too eliminate Hezbollah from Map (this is the Iranian president Message) and bring home the kidnapped solidiers, non of these has been accomplished. The only thing u really did is the killing of 1.000 cevillians (400 Children) so, u have make a mess here, they are children and not Hazbollah brave fighter. For that reason u defeated. By the way the rest of the world thing igually. Sorry for u.

Here comes the interesting moment when Israel as a middle east state have its interests diverging radically from its anglo-american creators. Masonic "novus Ordo Seclorum" agenda takes the lead on zionist "Eretz Israel" . With this disregard of the Un resolution Israel and US-Uk are trying to fool the world after being defeated on a tactical level by Hizbullah ( not achieving the goal of destroying it before launching other attacks on arab neighbours). As in the beginning of the war when Israel thought they were VERY Clever and fooled the world and proved to be the fools, israelis once again under Olmert's ENLIGHTENED guidance are gone again.

Military deterance?do u think it worked from 1948,u started with armies progressed to socialist revolutionaries and now islamic fundementalism what happned in lebanon is not new it is part of israel's policy of scaring anybody from reclaiming their rights,to return from refugee camps and live on their lands, well u got it.no one is deterred from claiming his right what do you think the palestinians would want peace with a country that stole their lands, how is it conceivable that any jew who lived for centuries anywhere in the world can obtain an israeli passport and live in israel and palestinians who's fathers were born in places like haifa,yafa can never see their land, please explain it to me.the argument was they left,or the arabs started the war.that does not deny the right of self determination.. or israel won the territories in a defensive war,well so did the soviet union in WWII so eastern europeans have no right to form their own countries.

Jews killers of prophets? That tells a lot about moslem brainwashing. Since you mention mohamed, this is what moslems themselves say about his life and career: among his many female "conquests", one was deflowered at the age of 9; several were captives whose husbands had been beheaded in mass slaughters; not to mention the treaties he betrayed, or his obsession with razzias. No wonder such a "culture" is doomed to the dustbins of history. Jean

Terrible isn't it? HA is going to be tagged with the blame for the destruction of an entire country. Doen't suit you? Don't be angry, wolfie. Remeber the rules of war in my other post. Annoying when things seem to be going so smoothly and then UN comes along and spoils the party. Did you really think the real world would support a violent, destabilising, radical muslim group. Islam is no religion of peace. Never has been. They still believe in the caliphate, wolfie. Wikipedia DOES mention the caliphate, doesn't it my learned friend? And wolfie, does the wikipedia itemise instances of jews going around trying to spread the word or thretening the heathen who don't convert to judaism? What, no wiki entry on that. No matter, you can be your own authority. Don't forget to cross reference and syndicate it as well. Chin up.

Hi elie you are supporting isreali terrorism what a big shit you are doing you dont know...

Let us just wait and see the outcome! It is difficult for Israel to avoid civilian casulties,although they are doing their utmost to avoid it, as those "brave" hezbollah warriors are hiding behind civilians, all the time they themselves purposedly are targeting Israeli civilians!

Well done Twisted Stadards but these terrorists never understand language of peace they are just digging there graveyard more and more deeper it just a matter of time there existence will be very very horrific and the historically terrorist countries who are supporting these Israeli terrorism they will pay very very heavy prices which they never imagine...

Hizbollah kicked your ASS. We saw how you ran out of Maroon Ras 2 weeks ago. The "Golani" troops lost their leader during that battle. They learned from Hizbollah they needed more than just being a "Golani". That is just a fact of History. They need to be "Hizbollah". They cannot. Of course IDF is good at killing children. That is what your fathers did anyway. Remember Deutornomy 3:6 says "And we utterly destroyed them,as we did unto Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and CHILDREN, of every city."

When you sign off as "Observer", you're not in any way connected to Reuters by any chance are you? Just wondered about the veracity of your news feeds. Just one more thing, do you think its possible that HA rocket attacks ONLY on civillian israeli targets could be described as unnecessary war crimes? Or is that a bit different do you think? No Reuters reporters here my friend. Just the facts. one more thing? is hitting a group of soldiers in a cemetry with a missile a war crime, my friend? Or, again, is that different? I'm sure you will observe a few more things as time goes. What was that again about recognising the facts????

Israel may now have a decent plan. One, the Lebanese government is preserved. The Peoples Democratic Republic of Hezbollah may wane. Two, if Israel can surround Hezbollah north and south, it can destroy some now and leave some for the incoming international forces. After all, how is Israel to get back home without crossing over still active Hezbollah bunkers? She can destroy these as she goes home, if the UN forces refuse to do so.

Ermine, Are You happy because our infrastructure is being destroyed? Well, dont worry, Like we rebuilt Lebanon many times before, we are going to rebuild it soon and Switzerland will help us. I have Respect for European countries. Ermine, by the way, USA keeps pressuring the European Union to list HezboAllah on their terrorist list but so far they are refusing. HezboAllah has created as a response to the Israeli occupation for Lebanon for more than 23 years. Hezboallah is reacting to the action of Israel. Ermine, Go read Leb-Isra. conflict History. The war didnt start because of the kidnapping of those 2 soldiers. May God bless HezboAllah, our only Reistance, to get occupied Shebas farms back and freeing our Lebanese prisoners in Israel since 1978.

The resolution text calls for a halt to offensive actions. Not even referring to the further drive on the ground to the Litani river, what's "defensive" about these two: - bombing the road Arida-Tripoli, which only prevents humanitarian aid coming into the country. - bombing Sidon, some 30km North of the Litani. Judging from these, it looks as Israel will in spirit disregard the UN resolution.

Hi Imad, remember me? The Israelian army is now finishing the job by now. Are you following it? I have information that 400 hezbollah soldiers died and at least, 400 wounded, during this war. Your victory is that Lebanon will be nearly free on those parasits. You have to thank Israel for it. You should be happy, it is good for Lebanon and maybe, Israel will make peace with Lebanon. More we eliminate hezbollah, more we have chance to peace, believe me. To see the resolution 1701, all the world believe like us. I do not know from where you are coming from but you say big and write pig, curious how you are writing a big pig.

Quote : " Israel can of course keep its losses down and the enemy count extremely high if it uses just one of the limited countermeasures available in its arsenal " Then in no time , you'll find Iran roasting entire Israel with its long range cute rockets ,so just dont rely too much on ur arsenal ! There are others who got their ARSENALS too ! Chao

continued... Israel never won the war only got a ceasefire, occupation with resistance, and no international recognition of its occupation. 2-Israeli claim superiority over the arabs and that they won the 1967 - 1970 wars is untrue. If it wasn't for the help of the English and French, they would have lost the war. Still, If arabs decide attack Israel, they will win. But we all know that Israel will be backed by the French(whom you call bastards and call the son of whores), English, AMericans. 3-Palestinian refugees remain in Lebanon, it's not the lebanese responsibility. The are residents of Israel and should return back home or atr least to the occupied territories. 4-Israel has to stop the talk to talk and walk the walk, that is stop talking PEACE and act like one who wants peace. Message to Israeli people: If you want PEACE is it's very simple. Return to the pre-1967 trust me Arabs are will to accept that including Hamas and Hizbollah rather dealing with groups like AL_Qaeda

Israel is expanding its military offensive Yet Olmert just signed UN resolution cease-fire. What a shame, what Israel is going to achieve in the next hours?? Hezbuallah can fight for years and no ONE can disarm it by force,the whol world know this now. Israel is abusing the next hours to kill more children, destroy more bridges. Israel doesnt know how to make its neighbours be at peace with Jews. Lebanese people are full of hate now. Most of those mothers who lost their children (who were killed by IDF on purpose) want to become suicide bombers. They want revenge. Israel creates "Terrorism" by the way it treats Arabs. After all, Israel is the terrorist. 1020 dead in Lebanon Most of them Civilians, 97 dead in Israel Most of them are soldiers. who is the terrorist here? Hezboallah could have killed more, many Israeli civilians, but It didnt. Shame on you Israel and shame on every Israeli who support this terrorist goveRMENT.

im sad for the indoctrinated in lebanon, europe and arabia. clearly they cant think for themselves and are reduced to repeating the rhetoric of terrorists. nothing will change until arabs let go of the lies they spew about Israel. jealousy and hate are the fruit of expansionism, tiny Israel can only defend itself and should have never given any land back from any war. the terrorists and thier supporters should be expelled from the region.

Dutchmen,It is unbelievable how pro-Israel tries their best to deny Israeli space and sea daily incursions into Lebanon. Nevertheless, should I remind you of all the men killed by Israeli agents in Lebanon for 2006 and before the abduction of the Isareli soldiers. To name some, the Majzoub's brother killed by Isreali agenct and when Lebanon caught the agents, the US warned them against taking the issue to the US. Oh again! that was in May 2006. The same agents were the one who killed other Hizbollah members and planned a May assassination plan against Nasrallah while attending the national meeting. The young shepherd who was also killed near the Shabaa farms. Anyway, you guys should stop playing innocence and take responsibility for your actions. Causes of the problem: 1-Israeli occupation of the Shabaa farms, Hills of Kfarshouba, and the 7 villages..(Claiming Israel won the war or UN recognized Blue lines are the International borders of Lebanon are not true.The war started 48 not 67

As a French woman you should know that my Grand Parents came to Paris to escape the nazis and your country man turned them over to them so that they can be shipped to concentration camps and be killed. Hezbulla is not an Army they don't wear uniforms, they hide behibd women and children and fire indiscrimentally into civilian populations. These same POOR civilians might be the ones firing the rockets or DANCING in the streets when Israeli chilren are killed. You would have probably denounced the concentration camp inmates when they rebelled and claimed that they over reacted and killed poor soldiers just doing their duty. You should learn the meaning of peace.

On official Arab maps israel is not included. So poor Kristian, does not know this fact. Quite delussionary but many Arabs have the same mental block

Look you have committed a gran mistake, by yr intent to finish with Hezbollah, now all lebanese support Hezbollah even the entire arab world and many non arabs. So, you r on pig mess. Because Hezbollah is now stronger than ever.

Are you not tired to write the same slogans and the same bullshits everyday on Haaretz ? We did all understand that for u IDF is doing terrorism : we know to read. Maybe you can write something else different for one day to another..don't u think ?

the kidnapped idf soldiers were taken because Israel is holding lebanese prisoners and because the negociation and all the diplomacy failed to make the deal,Hizb.... decided and it's the only way it can be done the exchange of prisoners.you should thank Hizboll....for not presenting the 2 soldiers in court where they could spen years in prison. you must be realstic when arguing with people,the old time is gone when u used to cross the arab countries like taking a walk in a hot summer night,Lebanon is different ....

to ermine, all lebanese support hizbollah, and i think that they are right because even if hizbollah has began the fight, they have the right because it has been more than 20years and the lebanese hostage are in the israel's prisons and untill now their is a lebanese territory occupied by israel, so i think , as a frensh, that hizbollah has the right untill the lebanese land and prisons will be left. waiting ur reply ermine

do not sream victory to early, strong Lebanese, your country is in ruin, no more bridge, no more light, no more road, no more airport, no more fuel, but"A FEW KATUSKAS LEFT TO KILL CIVILIANS" great victory, strong lebanese you can go in the street and offer a few biscuits if there is any left Bravissimo

To all the normal lebanese, WHY ARE YOU SUPPORTING HESBOLLAH TERRORIST ORGANISATION?????, do not complain that Israël is targeting you, why dont you fight HESBOLLAH they started the war, killing 8 and kidnapping 2,where are they, why the red cross cant visit them? is this situation normal??? you should be next to Israël and help them to get rid of Hesbollah, answer me please without lies

This war, instigated by Olmert's staggeringly incompetent over-reaction to the taking of two soldiers, has to be seen as a total failure of the State of Israel (yes it certainly has the right to be a State). The Israeli government and its citizens have failed. Israel has NEVER tried the one thing that might make a difference to its situation surounded by arab countries, i.e. observe UN resolutions. Simple. Do what the UN says you should do, just as you say Lebanon should do what the UN says it should do. Your settlements are illegal. Your wall is illegal. You human rights abuses of Palestinian civilians are grotesque. But Israel has NEVER taken a backward step. "duh,nope, we don't negotiate with terorists, even if Hamas becomes a legitimate government and even if they have restrained their rocket launchers for over a year... nope, nope, nope, we don't negotiate with terrorists". Grow up Israel. Look at the causes of the violence rather than perpetuating it.

since the islamic resistance in lebanon start defending lebanon, a lot of things cleared . the power of the army never lose finish. the army who killed a lot of children and civilians and never make any victory in the battle field with lebanese fighters. a number of hundreds of lebanese fighters with an old weapens dated to the second world war facing the most modern weapens exported from usa and eu . so that weak army lost in lebanon before and loosing again now. start count how many tanks destroyed every day. start count how many soldiers killed every day. start count the strong lebanon will be every day

or imaginary photoshop ones?

It was very worth it. We still have the two prisoners and will exchange them for hundreds of our own people. We killed 100 Israelis. We made 1 million refugees and destroyed the northern economy. We completely debunked Israeli deterrence. The whole world hates Israel. Hizbollah has become a hero and everyone will rush to give it money and weapons. We made the Israeli leadership look completely incompetent. There's more but my hands are tired from typing.

you must read the history very well and you will know clearly who the winner of this war. the killer of the children and the civilian in lebanon and othere areas never win any war . everyone in the last one month see how many soldiers were killed and how many civilians were murdered by the united states of america and the illegal state in occappied palestine. this war shows how is a little number of lebanese fighters with a weapens from second world war facing the killer of the prophets and the children who they have best weapens in this time. as every onest observer you will send a great greeting to those fighters who defending thier countery lebanon.

This will show you who is really hiding their looses http://www.almanar.com.lb/NewsSite/NewsCategory.aspx?id=2&language=en

Hey, Israel is supposed to be marked around Dead Sea and that implies roughly what the meaning is. God is great. He tells us something in common, everyday. Perhaps America should change the name of its jew prison to a name that reflect it very well, such as Dead Israel. Hmmm.. very funny.

Hello You Guys of Jews Decendant. Now do you feel how death is coming to you, as you have in the past, put forwards to others in your state. Be nice to others, and then rule of nature says that others will be nice to you. If you want a war, go ahead, and war you get. If you want life, then help others and you will have life. Go back to your root, and think about it hard. Nothing is so strong than the power of universe. Thanks.

And for the fact that Israel has only killed 57 hezballah fighters, is hopeless. Yes they claim that they killed over 400. But honestly,thats a lie.They always lie. That warship that was hit yesterday, the IDF denied It, too bad we saw it on TV sinking and smoke everywhere.SO what else are they lying about?

Israel is a terrorist country, no one can argue with me about that. People have the right to rebel against ISrael and get back their occupied land and their people in Israeli jails. And to all those people who think Israel is justified for all the civilian deaths in lebanon, because hezballah is firing rockets, they are so wrong and brain damaged.Israel killed 1100 innocent people in COLD BLOOD, while Hezballah's rockets on killed 33 people, Hezballah could of killed more for sure. This is what you call terrorism, when 1100 people die in cold blood. Hezballa's rockets are only for retaliation GOT IT? Retalition. Israel 100% terrorist country

IAF dropped leaflets over Beirut yesterday showing about 60 names of Hizbolla dead fighters and leaders.Most of those papers were burned or hidden by supporters of Hizbolla trying to hide it from the public.Does someone knows if it is posted anywhere on internet?

check the reliable news TODAY (reuters + bbc)(many IDF killed as well)

Sorry for casualties in Lebanon, but be honest with yourself: say "Thank you" to Mr Nasrallah for all happens now. lebanese people will decide later who is responsible for destructions and, I think, will give rewards or sanctions.

http://www.journaladdiyar.com/

Under rubles caused by IDF...

some effects might have been added to the photos to make them clear or whatever, but the truth remains, Israel has targeted civilians, destroyed homes (450 in Beirut suburbs only) destroyed infrastructure, and yet very few hizballah have been hit as they dont have fixed base. i am sorry to say, but the fact is clear: the Israeli inteligence is worth nothing. they couldn't even tell the IAF the difference between a rocket launcher and a water digging truck! (REF. to achrafieh bombing of two defective water diggers) they couldnt determine the location of the hizballah's rocket launchers or even their number. But I also have a question, if the IAF cares about the two kidnapped soldiers, why did they go one bombing beirut's suburbs? suppose they were locked in there? or that's not the real objective? please wake up and smell the make up! LETS PUT AN END TO ALL THIS MESS! WE ARE NOT GETTING ANYWHERE! I GUESS WE ALL WANT TO LIVE IN PEACE. WE ARE ALL GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE.

'hi mustafa.hope you are doingwell.good t have you here. lets consider this: israel targetting the convoy is cowardice but hizballah targetting israeli civilians is ok? over to you mustafa' The diference is IDF as usual pretend that they did it by mistake...(they are Liars) Whre as Hizbollah...acknowledge they are killing Israeli reservist(one of my indian friend told me all the jews living in israel are soldiers???)) furthre there r more military casulaties with hizbollah difenceive than civilians ..its otherway with zionist.

HEZBOLLAH IS TO BLAME FOR EVERY CIVILIAN DEATH IN LEBANON, AND BY THE WAY...WHAT ABOUT THE CIVILIANS MURDERED IN ISRAEL BY HEZBOLLAH IN COLD BLOOD - INCLUDING ARABS? You'll get no sympathy from me for your civilian deaths, you brought this on yourselves by harboring a terrorist organization.

Yes this is infact isreali propoganda...i suggest before ceasefire...hizbollah must give isreal and jewish terrorist a hard blow...it must be so hard that ...jews must think 100 times before attacking or occupying other countries...AMEN.AMEN..AMEN. Instead of this cruelty , terror , killing of innocent palestinians, etc..etc...why dont this zionist live in peace...and return all the lands occupied to the Arabs?? strange creature these jews are..its mind bogling to think they can do all this

All The Displaced Hezbollah Soldiers & Families must be settled in Israel....for that matter all the displaced Labanese must find way to get into Israel.Israel & so called Peace loving jews must accomodate them...

israeli power at the top of our programme" thank you ari shavit.israel's best writer.

Strange that mustafa & his buddies never expressed the same feelings when hezbollah rockets hit indiscriminately Israeli civilians (jews and muslims alike). Now tell me, who is the coward ?

hi mustafa.hope you are doingwell.good t have you here. lets consider this: israel targetting the convoy is cowardice but hizballah targetting israeli civilians is ok? over to you mustafa.

Hey guys good to wake up to your chatter. I see mark has really hooked into this one. forget that it is a war, a very dirty war. A war in which one side has been using human shields from day one. Yet, now mark is looking for an excuse to totally break with George Duybbya, and come out against Israel. We Have "let him down". Mark get a life, buddy. Your judgment is reminiscent of a south Texas hanging judge. Howdy! both of you guilty before innocent jerks, should wait for the facts. As for now all we have is what BBC and CNN have told you, nothing else. It also turns out that the original convoy was joined by hundreds of other "civilians" along the journey. How do you two geniuses know who these people were? I saw the film on television of the convoy. I saw cars with no more than one or two men, or fighting age. I saw no vehicles filled with families. all of these guys could have been Hezbollah, who is to know. Oh I forgot Mark knows