[3 cont] So I am suggesting that legitimacy comes from a level of great survival need in coming to a new land combined with lesser damage to peoples already there. That is something I think Israel achieved more than most any nation when it was founded and that is why i think many have much greater comfort with the pre-67 borders. At some point, the need no longer outweighs the harm done to satisfy the need. The difficulty is in picking that place, since there is no perfect determination. 4. In the founding of other nations, native peoples were killed more from disease than war. That is not happening in Israel so there will be no unintended but overwhelming loss of life among native peoples, as occurred when Europeans came to other lands. This makes it both harder and more intentional to take land in modern times - diseases no longer cause the same destruction of other populations. 5. In the end, perhaps legitimacy is not as important as finding peace and security.
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