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    • zeev
    • 15.11.09 | 16:15 (IST)

    Whoever is responsible for the occupation - I have tired of discussing it with you - be it Israel, the Palestinians or the man in the moon, the question has to be asked: Can a nation occupying a foreign and stateless population for 42 years, be honestly called "a nation under siege"? My answer is no. Leibler's claim is ridiculous and dishonest. "Could it be that Isi Leibler is talking exactly about people like you?" (Tim R) It could be. Ask him. He left his mail address at the end of his 'ad nauseam' diasporic whine/rant. In any case, rather than to be on his side, I much prefer, believe me, siding with people like Prof. Zeev Sternhell for instance, undoubtedly one of those Israeli academics so grotesquely accused by Leibler of vilifying their country and identifying with the enemy. Poor clueless Liebler, who has yet to grasp the difference between a country and its government. A difference that the right-wing parties, in their hunger for power, always seek to obfuscate. "WE are the state. Attacking us is attacking the country itself." Hogwash. Any nation that gives total allegiance to the power in place condemns itself "to stagnancy and regression" (bored #8 is right) if not to ruin. Prof. Sternhell could teach Liebler a lot on the subject. "Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza. As a result, Hamas escalated their rocket barrage of Israeli civilians." (Tim R) That's correct. But the only surprised ones were the bird-brained. In March 1979, Israel handed back the whole of Sinai into Anwar Sadat's hands, against a signed treaty, and we got peace. In summer 2005, Sharon idiotically abandoned the Gaza Strip to no one - without asking for any return, and we got war with an tiny Islamist enclave we now cannot live with, nor defeat, we who 42 years ago knew how to crush three Arab armies in six days. The people is always paying the price for its (elected) leaders' follies. Nothing new under the sun.

    from the article: Response / On 'exorcising' Israel bashers from the Jewish mainstream
    First published 09:37 10.11.09 | Last updated 08:10 11.11.09
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