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    • LS
    • 12.06.13 | 21:30 (IDT)

    You talk about increasing trade and cultural ties between Israel and the rest of the world as evidence that the Israel will never be obliged to choose between maintaining the occupation or destroying itself as a Jewish homeland but that sounds to me as if you want time to stand still and - of course - that is an impossibility. I have tried to point out why I believe that US support for Israel will decline and that there will come a time when its traditional support base in the West will decide that having to treat Israel as a special case in order for it to maintain its occupation will cost them much more in geo-political terms than it pays them to do so. You also talk of Israel being the single democratic state in the region and ask why would the West seek to destroy it? They wouldn't. They would simply point out to Israel that it has a choice, support from the West in return for ending the occupation. It will be Israel that decides which is more important for it. Anyway what does Israel as a democracy mean to the West? It knows that it is supporting a country that has a democratic voting system but it also knows that once the votes are counted it is infact a democracy based on the tyranny of the majority whereby the dominant group does not treat others as its equal. So even if it does not treat all its citizens equally what does it provide for the West that is so important? Military support? The Gulf States also do that. Intelligence? The West has intelligence links with many countries in the region, Israel is far from being its sole supplier. The problem I have with those who share your views, DZ, is that you have to rely on others always being prepared to treat Israel as a special case, that is to support it whilst it continues a highly destablising and illegal occupation. I believe that with the passing of time different priorities will come into being and that that support will increasingly not be worth the cost, particularly in political terms for the West.

    from the article: U.S. Jewish author Leon Wieseltier: Jewish state won’t last unless Israeli-Palestinian conflict solved
    First published 23:31 10.06.13 | Last updated 23:31 10.06.13
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