The way I see it, the both of you are already sunk by your own weightiness. It doesn't appear that either of you can see the forest for the trees. This war we wage, is not one of flesh and blood but of powers and principalities. If you want to debate ethics.....find an ethics forum.....ok!
Australian, Thai journalists acquitted of defaming Thai navy (AP)
from the article: Ending the neoconservative nightmare