yea i was thinking about that. it was pretty harsh. but thats the nature of things. i was referring to Arab politics, really, not every arab i see. i actually know a few that i do care about, and its not like i wish every arab i see harm. but what i said was true. i had more political sympathy for Arabs before i started to talk to them, and its pretty much evaporated after all these discussions ive had over the years. and still i think they deserve the same rights as everyone else, but its really in spite of them and because of my liberalism, not because i admire thier politics. if they want to live under dictatorships , fine, let them kill each other. just dont involve me in it. what i said about anti-colonialist rhetoric i still believe. check out my other posts here, especially with khalid (247, 248, and before) to see what im getting at. i think youd notice in my other posts that i try harder to actually dialogue with people here than most, especially with arabs. im desperately looking for someone to prove me wrong about them. so far, not much success.