Fantasy vs. History (Victor the Hard Man #79) - Comment - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper
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    • Tosefta
    • 25.08.07 | 17:51 (IDT)

    "writers of nonsense without historical reference.. your understanding of mid east history remains faulty!!" - Victor the Hard Usually, Fantasizers fantasize about the future. Most people accept the past; they know it cannot be changed. But our former Soviet expert knows that the past is a myth, you can change it too. All you need to do is just to replace a page in the encyclopedia. Well Victor, you are now in the West, and we have a different notion of historical truth and common sense. I will mention just a few here, and perhaps you can then leave history for others and concentrate on something you are able to understand. 1. "israels borders were set at san remo in 1920 since then one act or another has shrivelled the land allocated from 100% to less than 10%!!" - Victor "The precise boundaries of all territories were left unspecified, to "be determined by the Principal Allied Powers" and were not completely finalized until four years later." - Wikipedia sv. San Remo Conference By the time The Mandate for Palestine went into force, the Balgour declaration was applicable only to the area west of the Jordan River, and without the Golan. In Western culture, "what could have been" is different from "what was", "what should have been", or "what I want to have been". 2. "egypt had previously tried the role that iran now wants to acheive" - V Egypt wanted to unite all Arabs. Iran is not an Arab country; it eventually wants to be the leading Muslim country. For now it wants to be dominant in the ME, and does not need all Arab states for this. 3. "syria was drawn into this mythical union until 1979" - V The union between Syria and Egypt lasted between 1958 and 1961! 4. "until 1979 when egypt realised next time they would end up as an israeli colony ! " - V I assume you refer to the Sadat peace treaty with Israel. Funny that Israel agreed to retreat from Sinai as part of this. Did Israel make concessions because Sadat feared vassalhood? This is hard, but try to think a little. 5. "syria is in the hands a man who cannot see that syria will end up a vassal of russia or iran, that his only alternative is to join egypt and jordan in the status quo ! " - V We are moving to fantasies about the present and future. I will stop here. Try to concentrate on fixing your view of the past. No need to confuse you further. "It is easier to get the Jew out of Russia than to get Russia out of the Jew" ? Sayings of the Grandfathers

    from the article: A conference of cowboys
    First published 00:00 24.08.07 | Last updated 00:00 24.07.07
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