The problem is that people are never consistent in their positions. Sometimes they are for self determination and sometimes for sovereignty. And the decision of which position to adopt it driven by interest and/or ideology. Otherwise how would one explain why Kosovo is right to declare independence, but the Kurds in Turkey, Syria and Iraq are not. Or, as a matter of fact, why is it that 5 million Jews don't have the right to ask for a Jewish state.
Week of floods kills 22 in Vietnam (DPA)