Apologist Danite the comprehension-challenged, II - Comment - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper
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    • Tosefta
    • 16.08.07 | 07:45 (IDT)

    3. "part of the reason for anti-Semitism has been Jewish separatism and sense of superiority. Hitler should have taught us of the terrible consequences. Instead, we are doing more of the same in the Territories." - Tosefta "Tosefta please remind the board about how Jewish superiority forced Hitlers hand against them,and how we have not learned the lesson in humility he was trying to teach us according to you." - Danite I tried my luck in making things VERY explicit: "Danite, please read my quote sloooowly and carefully, and then try to answer the following question: According to the quote, why did Hitler kill the Jews? (a) He hated them, in part for their separatism and sense of superiority. (b) The Jews forced his hand. (c) He was an educator trying to teach the Jews a lesson in humility. (d) He was an educator trying to teach the Jews a lesson in separatism." My attempt FAILED! Danite replied: "There is no difference between my rendition of your words and your actual words." I might as well talk to a piece of wood. 4. "there is a Halakhic prohibition to drink wine touched by a gentile, etc. These prohibitions were designed to minimize social contacts between Jews and gentiles. And it worked." - Tosefta (First comment) "we are concerned nowadays with stam yenam, ordinary wine made or handled by gentiles. The Talmud forbids such wines as a precautionary measure to prevent socializing with gentiles since it might lead to intermarriage [Avodah Zarah 31b] or because those who use such wines might...be persuaded to apostatize." - Tosefta quoting a source (second comment) The issue was brought up against objections that Jews were not unusually "separate", continuing with the anti-Semitism issue. Danite the Jewish Apologist of course could not tolerate any statement seemingly critical of Jews. He jumped in: "Tosefta wrong. The prohibition against gentile wine is because at the time wine was used for sacred purposes by pagans and often whole vats of wine sold in the market were dedicated formally to a god." - Danite, first response (didn`t work against the source) "The Popes in the Middle agaes.. complained to many christians were going to houses of Jews where they might form too good an opinion of them.So because Jews couldnt drink genitle wine with Gentiles they were inviting Gentiles to drink with them." - Second response (against the source) The man does NOT get it. The Jews could not invite Christians home to have a drink of wine, because a TOUCH by a Christian of the bottle would have rendered the wine non-kosher. (And I am overlooking the fact that somebody who knows little of Halakha appoints himself Defender of the Faith.) (continued)

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