obumma and clinton and all the talking heads make pronouncements but it all comes down to the fact: arabs will NEVER, NEVER, NEVER recognize Israel as a Jewish state, NEVER give up the right of return and Israel will never agree to be destroyed by a flood of arabs. There may be peaceful times but there will never be a peace treaty, the arabs won't let it happen.
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