Interestingly enough, if someone takes a look at the algemeiner web site, one will find an article about another debate, Gershon Jacobson vs Toynbee, right after the war. That debate was about whether Jews are a civilization or a culture. That report has Toynbee admitting defeat. Clearly he had some fascination with our people. Speaking of other debates, where is Israel defined as Jewish and democratic? Israel has international legitimacy as a Jewish state, period. Democracy is nice, indeed, but not part of our fundamental definition or a source of the state's international legitimacy.
- 10:41 PM
from the article: This is how we ruined Toynbee's theory