VH: "the arabs have refused all of these benefits and have nothing CONCRETE to offer!" The Saudi Plan lists the agenda for the give-and-take of Final Status Negotiations, Victor. That plan posits that Israel GIVES this: Withdrawal to the '67 line Allows an independent Palestine Negotiates a settlement of the refugee problem that is compatible with Res 194. In return, the Arabs GIVE to Israel this: Peace. Recognition. Normalization. Trade in the region. Regonal Cooperation. Regional Security. International acceptance. Now, I really *do* understand where you are coming from Victor when you say this: VH: "the arabs have refused all of these benefits" What you MEAN is that the Arabs should give all that to Israel, and Israel should grab it with both hands, and as far as you are concerned once that happens then the conflict is over. Put simply: the Arabs GIVE, and Israel TAKES, but the Arabs getting nothing in return. Right, Victor?
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