"Regardless, palestinians won`t get a fig until they give up terror and make peace with Israel where it is, the way it is." I do no argument with the idea that Israel should only relinguish the occupied territories when it has received security guarantees. That does not seem to me to be a particularly novel demand on their part. What I am saying is that people like you are confusing OCCUPATION with COLONISATION. Israel will never get those security guarantees while it continues to colonise land that is under its military occupation, for the simple fact that this attempt at colonisation is illegal land-grabbing. The settlements were a bad idea in 1967, and were an attempt to prevent any fair and negotiated peace. Israel wanted security AND it wanted the land it had seized. It can have one, or the other. But it can't claim both without the Palestinians ceasing to exist as a people. Funny as it seems, Nechama, the Palestinians don't think much of that last option.
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