World powers condemn Ahmadinejad for calling Holocaust 'a lie'
German FM brands Ahmadinejad 'a disgrace' for denying Holocaust; U.S. envoy calls remarks hateful.
By Haaretz Service and Agencies Tags: Germany Iran Holocaust Israel newsIranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad continued on Saturday to draw international condemnation for calling the Holocaust "a lie" on the previous day, his latest outburst of Holocaust denial.
The United States, Britain, France, Germany and Russia all issued statements denouncing the remarks in the harshest terms.
On Sunday the European Union added its condemnation, saying it encourages anti-Semitism and hatred.
The Swedish EU presidency on Sunday urged Iranian leaders to contribute constructively to peace and security in the Middle East. It also condemned Ahmadinejad's attacks on the state of Israel's right to exist.
The Russian foreign ministry said Ahmadinejad's comments were "totally unacceptable."
"Such statements, wherever they come from, contradict the truth and are totally unacceptable," AFP quoted ministry spokesman Andrei Nesterenko as saying in a statement.
"Attempts to rewrite history, especially as the 70th anniversary of the start of World War II is being marked this year, are an offence to the memory of all victims and all those who fought fascism."
Nesterenko was further quoted as saying that Ahmadinejad's comment "does not contribute to creating an international atmosphere that would foster a fruitful dialogue on issues concerning Iran."
Iran and six powers - Britain, China, France, Germany, Russia and the United States - are to meet again on October 1 on Iran's nuclear program amid fears that Tehran is planning to build an atomic bomb.
French foreign ministry spokesman Bernard Valero called the remarks "unacceptable and shocking. We resolutely condemn them," AFP reported.
German FM calls Ahmadinejad 'a disgrace' for denying Holocaust
In a statement unprecedented in its tone, German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier called Ahmadinejad a "disgrace" to his country.
"Today's statements by the Iranian President are unacceptable. With his intolerable tirades he is a disgrace to his country," Steinmeier said in a statement. "This sheer anti-Semitism demands our collective condemnation. We will continue to confront it decisively in the future."
Ahmadinejad said at a Quds (Jerusalem) Day rally in Tehran earlier Friday that, "The pretext [Holocaust] for the creation of the Zionist regime [Israel] is false ... It is a lie based on an unprovable and mythical claim."
Denying the Holocaust - carried out by Nazi Germany in World War Two - is a crime in Germany, punishable by up to five years in prison.
Susan Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, called Ahmadinejad's comments "hateful;" White House spokesman Robert Gibbs told reporters: "Obviously we condemn what he said."
Gibbs added that Ahmadinejad's Holocaust denial, "only serves to isolate Iran further from the world."
British Foreign Secretary David Miliband, meanwhile, said: "President Ahmadinejad's repeated denials of the Holocaust are abhorrent as well as ignorant. It is very important that the world community stands up against this tide of abuse. This outburst is not worthy of the leader of Iran."
Miliband went on to praise the great history and culture of the Iranian people.
"I cannot believe that the vast majority of them want to rewrite this chapter of history rather than focus on the future," he added. "The coincidence of today's comments with the start of Jewish New Year only adds to the insult."
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Iran President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. |
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you ppl shud b ashamed of yourselves! so much said about something that may have or may not have happened more 50 yrs ago.the german FM shud apologise to the Jews instead, for his country deserved to be nuked for what they claimed was done to the Jews.(surprised that he didnt agree with the gr8 president cos it was his ancestors who gassed the Jewish community).instead of confronting him headon, you shud engage him aand find a peaceful solution instead. there r definitely parties that want war w Iran. the USA and europe need a stimulus to revive their ailing economies. war spending will provide jobs and boost their GDP. the Zionist pls stay away and dont be an agent of war.
Hi Persian Kitty ! Two days ago I sent you a reply to your wonderful post,and your Greetings for Rosh Hashanah ! Thanks a lot. I too wish you the very best. Don't forget to buy old shoes at the flea market just in case Ahmadienjad might cross the plaza. All at once,take pot shots at him ! Just imagine, women's high-heeled shoes getting its mark! Anyhow I too, wish you a very Good Year !
Do you think that by posting under a "Jewish" name your mad anti-semitic rants take on some validity? You don't have the guts to use your real name.If that is your real name, then the depths of your self-hate are so deep that they need endless therapy.In either case you leave little doubt as to what a mean spirited bigot you are.Why not find a nice white supremist site where you might find people who share your same sick philosophy.The monitors here should delete you, but don't despite your claims.I guess that is because these true Jews know that the truth is stronger than your pointless hate speech.
There could be some truth in his statement.
Do you and your family remember life in Iran 1950s with Prime minster Mohammad Mossadeq before his government was overthrown by a coup funded by the CIA. American-Anglo Operation Ajax? Mossadeq made the 'mistake' of nationalizing the Anglo-Iranian Oil company. Britain had enjoyed 85% profit, Iran 15%! Oil, oil, oil! The Iranian oil would not be flowing cheaply to Israel, and Anglo/American powers were told to but out of Iran. That was another problem wasn't it, dafna? BTW, why did you choose to migrate to Australia and not Israel?
Yes, I am lucky to be in Australia after escaping a theocratic apartheid state as Iran. Sad to see that Muslims in Sydney face a racist, local population to build new mosques. Be happy and peaceful in your ignorance.
However, I regard the World as my home, haven`t the slightest urge to hear the drums of Nationalism from any country. So bearing this in mind I can tell you many things about my Home in Scotland,-H It is obvious that you are a spineless hypocrite. You claim you reject nationalism but are solidly boosting Israel. Yet you lack the courage of your convictions and will urge on the fighters and keep your precious but safe behind a foreign flag. Again, all the characteristics of a spineless hypocrite. It would seem that Israel is your home but you are afraid to live there. The culture and civilization in a western country is safer than a Middle Eastern country.
What you wish to us, may it happen to yourself and all those you love - your parents, your wife, your children, your friends, your co-citizens. May that anti-Israel nuke that you wish on us fall instead on you Joshua Weiss and all your dear ones. I wish it to you most sincerely.
You still rock!! Happy Rosh Hashanah!! A few years ago, I made a pact with Danite and ChanahS to celebrate the mullahs regime's fall in Persopolis. Danite promised to make smacking turkish coffee while Chanah promised to bring a case(!!!!) of the best Israeli wine. Although they are no longer consistently posting here, I'd like to extend my invitation to you to join the group (whoever would make it up!!). Although I may not be able to find Persian Prince or Princesses (wink, wink - notch notch to your old post) I can assure you to definitely bring a Persian Kitty....
Don't you see the guy is deranged, so no reason getting mad about his nonsense mumbling. Notice my letter to him.
A wise choice you three have made - choosing democratic, multicultural Australia as your homeland instead of opting for a theocratic apartheid state in the Middle East. Congratulations. BTW, I read the good news article on Haaretz today. "Virginia Synagogue doubles as Mosque for Ramadan." It reminds me of something an Australian Rabbi, Fred Morgan, said on an ABC radio program last week, The Spirit of things/"Stairway to Heaven." The discussion was, the concept of heaven. The Rabbi told of Jewish story. Heaven and Hell. A man dies, and is taken on a tour to Hell by an Angel. He sees a wonderful banquet, but everyone was struggling to feed themselves with long handled spoons, too long to reach their mouths. When the Angel takes the man to Heaven, he sees the same beautiful banquet, the same long handled spoons, but everyone was serving one another. A happy an peaceful Jewish New year to you all.
# 45 "Palestine is such a tiny place that a single carefully place (placed)nuke would make it uninhabitable for a few hundred thousand years, and thereby solve all the region's (and many of the world's) problems.The sooner the better.I say" (joshua weiss) Haaretz allows some of the worst Dregs of Humanity to freely post here. And when? on Rosh Hashanah ! If the effect of one nuke is so devastating.Why not try one first in Australia,where this low-life lives with his family. Australia is so vast & not tiny like 'Palestine' & see what happens.
I think you missed Mark's point. Comparing ahmadi's post-holocaust rantings to fuhrer's pre-holocaust rantings is redundant and what Mark is saying is although NOT comparable in scale the fact that people deny either is reprehensible. There is no doubt about the horrifying nightmare that fell upon the Jewish people. I guarantee you that people of Iran don't doubt that holocaust took place. I, myself, am a walking proof and learned about it as a child in Iran. Another point that I'd like to bring up is the fact that every single Iranian (in or out of Iran) knows that ahmadi's rhetoric is just that for political purpose. The Iranian people are taking care of him and soon enough he'll be history. Having said all that, I'd also like to point out the extreme disappointment I (and millions of ordinary people like me) felt when the operation cast lead was conducted. It's timing and method of conduct was repulsive to say the least...cont'd
I think you missed Mark's point. Comparing ahmadi's post-holocaust rantings to fuhrer's pre-holocaust rantings is redundant and what Mark is saying is although NOT comparable in scale the fact that people deny either is reprehensible. There is no doubt about the horrifying nightmare that fell upon the Jewish people. I guarantee you that people of Iran don't doubt that holocaust took place. I, myself, am a walking proof and learned about it as a child in Iran. Another point that I'd like to bring up is the fact that every single Iranian (in or out of Iran) knows that ahmadi's rhetoric is just that for political purpose. The Iranian people are taking care of him and soon enough he'll be history. Having said all that, I'd also like to point out the extreme disappointment I (and millions of ordinary people like me) felt when the operation cast lead was conducted. It's timing and method of conduct was repulsive to say the least.
I am pleased for your sake that you have obviously never had the misfortune to live in a totalitarian society, but there must be limits even to your naivety. No, Iranian Jews are not always free to attend Synagogue. Not for example when the Rabbi and his 15 year old son, along with 2 dozen others, are hauled before the secret police on trumped up charges of "spying for Israel", beaten up, tortured, imprisoned without trial and then, a few years later, released without explanation or apology. So, yes, of course they turn up and cheer on "Quds Day" - if they know what's good for them.
...and to top it off, Israelis elected a dangerously rightist gov in a couple of weeks following that. The world has changed from 15 years ago. There was a time that crimes could be swept uder the rug and a good PR campaign would make anyone look like a victimized angel. But that times is done and over. Look at what's happening in Iran today. I'm not in Iran and for the Friday rallies I had minute-by-minute updates from sources on the ground in Iran about what was happening, complete with videos!!! Compare this to the mass killings khomeini did in 87-88. We don't even know the exact numbers (tens of thousands of teenagers). Now let me remind you that both israel and Iran expelled all foreign jounalists during their latest operation (Cast L and Iran's post-elect) yet the world knows exactly what happened. Last but not least, I replied to your kind note to me the other day but haaretz censored. So here's a second attempt: ty, I too wish for a peaceful world. Happy Rosh Hashana!
Trust you to choose a self serving site as "press news" when the reality is very different for Iranian Jews. The reason that the Iranian government is so good to its Jews is since it is so blatantly anti-Israel, it uses these few Jews as a glowing gallery to the world to prove that it is not anti-Semitic. This is their way of saying to the world, 'We are not ant-Semitic, we are only against the Zionist war-mongers in Israel ? as proof, look how nicely we treat our own Iranian Jews!' I know this as myself and family left Iran for Sydney, Australia. I have met Muslim Iranians in Sydney who profess friendship to Israel. They have families and friends who disapeared and were killed and tortured in Iranian prisons under this current dictatorship. Once again I say your anti Israel blinds you to the truth.
I did not finish of my last post fully,i would hope that if you had the slightest bit of humanity you would help get the Jewish population of Iran out from the oppresion.Jews in most Arab lands live in fear as they have many restriction placed upon them and in Iran have been costantly harrased with trumped up charges some leading to the death penalty.I would really like to have an organisation formed to help get the jews out of Iran before it is to late for them.The Iranians are trying to destroy their Jewishness in many ways .I can assure you that their is no religious freedom for the Jews of Iran just speak to any Iranian Jew that has managed to get away from that accursed land.The Jews of Iran were a magnificent people that have suffered greatly from succesive archaic fanatical muslim regimes.Please hhelp my brothers and sisters get out before it is too late .If you do nothing you will be the guilty one.
Half the Jewish population of the world was dehumanized then systematiically murdered.Yes lots of others susffered.But what happened to the Jews has never happened in the past or since they were stripped of everything methodically rounded up starved subjected to extreme barbarity then murdered.Half of the jewish population of the world .They were raped experimented on branded humiliated.Even if they were not worshipping jews the fate was the same.This was a deliberate plan to wipe out all Jews. Am Yisroel Chai.
I know you will not publish this comment, but lets be fare: Would anybody in the World question horrors of the WW2 if Israel from its very existence was not using all kinds of horrors and crimes against humanity against its neigbours. where is the end of this arrogance??
"Palestine is such a tiny place that a single, carefully-place nuke would make it uninhabitable for a few hundred thousand years" Bet these are Daddy's and Mummy's words. See how easy it is to condition the weak minded? You obviously know nothing of death or you would not speak the words of a child in the dark.
Read my post to Labhras 44.I detest Nationalism, Israeli, Palestinian, British, American or any other that wears the veil of superiority over others. I see no connection, not even tenuous, between the Israeli/ Gaza war and Ahmadinejad's rampant denial of the Holocaust. None! Just because I don't agree with you doesn't make me a "Rabid bigot," but it does demonstrate that you like getting your own way, that we should all see your version of the truth, as the Truth.It's my belief and my Truth that Nationalism will destroy us all.So if you care to find links why not try the simpler, more obvious one between Ahmadinejad's denial of the Holocaust and the Pre Holocaust rantings of the Fuhrer. Don't you think that would make more sense?
Surely it is not possible that some people believe that the Palestinians did the murders and have forgotten that it was Germany? Good grief, how brainwashed and deluded can people get? Anyway all he said was "let's examine the story". Fair enough - is Israel afraid we will discover many of those supposedly killed actually escaped before the war even started? Sorry, but we already know. It does not take away the fact that the world managed to murder 70 million or so people in 6 years for absolutely nothing.
Hi dafna, the Jewish Committee in Iran called for a big turnout for attendance of the Quds Day rally - in support of all oppressed people including Palestinians! (Press TV News 17 September 2009) How many apartheid walls wall in Iranian Jews in Iran? Are Iranian Jews prevented from attending their synagogues to worship in Iran?
And you dear Josh, should hurry as fast as you can to your nearest shrink to take care of your mental health.
Shame on you for comparing Operation Cast Lead to the Holocaust, even if you added the rihteous little sentence in the end that there was a difference in the monstrousity of the two.
AHMINADAJADS REGIME MUST BE DESTROYED.
leaves a lot to be desired. Your anti Israel bias reads into this article what it doesn't say. this time it is about world powers condemning Ahmadinejad; it seems they woke up to Israel's complaint of Ahmadinejad's racist rantings
Why is the monkey allowed to roam free in New-York? He should have been arrested for his regime's mass murder the moment he puts his foot on free soil. Let us remember Wiliam Buckley,Richard Higgins,the 63 American Embassy employees in Beirut, the 243 American Marines in Beirut, the 58 French paratroopers,the 29 in the Israeli Embassy in Buenos-Aires(most of them school children),the 86 in the Jewish Community Center in Buenos-Aires, the 12 Lebanese Jews murdered only because they were Jews,etc.etc.etc. Imad Murania paid for it with his life(25 years too late), when will the Iranian criminals pay?
Move over David Duke and Thomas Robb, you have a new leader. This guy is a total scumbag.
Ahmadinejhad lost the support of his own people that is why He started talking garbage again. When he was repeating his garbage about holocaust there were tens of thousands of Iranian people chanting "down to liar" "down to dictator".
H you prove my point. Just as Ahmadinejad cavils to support his Holocaust Denial, you quibble to deny reality of what happened during Cast Lead. Neither of you can simply accept the truth because your rabid bigotry demands a perfect world which doesn't exist.
is short staffed. My post didn't make it. Instead of Israel and Jewish groups taking Ahmadinejad's bait, it would be more constructive to take care of the aging Holocaust survivors who are living in poverty,
Read a little using the alphabet for something different from saying nonsense. The mouth is big and may be opened without paying cash, eh? Shoah was an industrialized scientific massacre, using all the civilized advances: economic, transport, information, + stupid people like you two.
You're almost on to something, M, whether you're right, or not. How many "palestinian refugees" of the 1948 war are there? Surely not the millions upon millions of descendents of those that actually left, as per your logic. Right? So, there's probably only a very few old ones here and there. Good to know. Thanks for clarifying.
Jewish is a made up religion. People can convert to it, deny it, refuse to follow it but they are not born jewish. Good heavens these religions are a waste of time and space aren't they? Why is it we are not allowed to mention that 2 thirds of the jews supposedly killed by Hitler had left Germany, Austria and Russia long before the war started as some authors have now discovered? Counting people today whose family might have had someone die in the war as holocaust survivors as is happening is a deranged as saying I am a WW11 survivor because my grand father fought in it.
Your silence on this one betrays you. Disgraceful.
this man is following an agenda that is set forth for reasons only known for the Iranian leadership alone. one has to wonder why does iran take such a stance knowing that it will bring much more harm then good to its universal standings. there are two answers to this question,first maybe iran wants to push away the world, for the meantime at least. the second answer is i have no clue....
If it was not for the fact that this wicked man may start a global nuclear holocaust I'd say ignore him but we cannot afford to. What is needed is a joint coalition to alter the Iranian situation for long term peace and security. That will involve removing Ahmadinejad from power.
Stop dredging up Oliver Cromwell - so what if H lives in London? He/she isn't responsible for the actions of Cromwell's Commonwealth dictatorship 360 years ago! And stop fussing about Irish unification. The counties of Ulster will decide that through the ballot box, and not in the bloody manner of your IRA chums. Honestly, your moral hypocrisy is breath-taking.
yakov the fool ought to remember that an anti-Israel nuke won't need to pick targets. Palestine is such a tiny place that a single, carefully-place nuke would make it uninhabitable for a few hundred thousand years, and thereby sol;ve all the region's (and many of the world's) problems. The sooner the better, I say.
You obviously haven't read my criticism of Great Britain.If you had you'd probably have told me the same as your Pals Clickfool, Linthwaite and American in NY..to go to my brothers in Israel and kill Palestinians. However, I regard the World as my home, haven't the slightest urge to hear the drums of Nationalism from any country. So bearing this in mind I can tell you many things about my Home in Scotland, the poverty of the Gorbals and the Celtic and Rangers who couldn't wait for their next fight, or about my pals at Catholic boarding schools who still have therapy. Try thinking outside the box Labhras..the truth is grey. What was your question?
And this, even if it were true:- "He has taken great steps to support terrorism, murdered people throughout the world..." is different from Israeli State-sponsored terrorism how?? And again, why should Iran not have a nuclear capacity if it's OK for all the nuclear-armed states ~ INCLUDING Israel~ to have them?? Obviously the lesson has been well-learnt:- If you have nukes you can commit any atrocities you like and no-one will argue with you.
This piece of human garbage should not be permitted to land in the USA. He is not a legitimate leader as the Iranian election was stolen. His vitriolic words speak for themselves. Let's see if the UN representatives have the guts to walk out when he enters.
I think it was Churchill who said something to the effect that 'the Germans are either ripping your throat or licking your boots'. Not only was he right, it looks like they haven't changed.
Nonsense Labhras! The jews in Palestine are a murderous,lying, immoral and largely illegal occupying force. To compare them to the original residents of Poland, North-and-South America, Australia, etc. is false and outrageous. And stupid.
I note that, typical of jewish policies generally, your publication refuses to publish opposing views. How gutless of you to demand 'free speech', etc. from others without applying bthe same standards to yourself.
into the past. "I don`t recall the Jews in Poland firing 8,000 rockets at the Germans. A better comparison could be made with the Native American Indians or the Indians of South America or the Maories or the Aborigines and all those who never had the means to defend themselves.H Oliver cromwell---500,000 dead---because they were Catholics. Charles Edward Trevelyan---of famine fame.Refused to open the grain stores. Pick your own number of how many deaths he was responsible for. Somewhere between 1 and three million. they also were not armed to the teeth. Sure you want to start pointing out details to Mark lincoln. Guess what, I only adressed one little small country that had the bad luck to be your neighbour. There are so many millions more who were not armed to the teeth. Is this where you take off your british hat.
it shows exactly who he is, he's giving us the genuine, accurate picture of who he is, what he thinks, how he feels. it's not worthy of an iranian leader, a good one, worthy of his people & their history. unfortunately, i fear, half /so of the iranian population has fallen under his spell (i hope i'm wrong). he's also not the only iranian leader who thinks & feel this way. but then, in our history a people has been hijacked by their leaders before. let's hope the iranians wake up & get rid of this leadership before it's too late. what ahmadinejad says is worthy of him, though. it's who he is.
There is no difference between Ahmadinejad who denies the Holocaust and those who deny Cast Lead. There is a difference in the monstrosity of the crime. M Lincoln That is an old rhetorical trick and you know better the that Mark. It should not even be in the same breath.
there are no world power any more,thanks to great country like iran.
The leaders of the most powerful nations on Earth must be thinking,"This guy is dangerous." How can we fix this without fear of reprisal? HELLO ISRAEL!
Have our worship leaders ever thought of praying for our enemies and their minds to be opened up. Maybe if we prayed for them and maybe if we did it by radio God would hear. Everyone could stop and pray for Israels safety and for our enemies. Have we walked in their shoes of hate yet? I knew a man once who said no one had ever set foot on the moon he said it was all hollywood. Maybe the Nazi's ran Iran? Did anyone think this. Maybe they ran it well at one time? Maybe all they know are a different side of Nazi? It has happened before in another country. I think we all need to seek guidance? Karoon
They also rewrote the story of Esther and Purim; in their version the Jews hurt the Persians, when in reality Hamen threatened to exterminate the Jews; and the Persian King would have killed the Jews, if not stopped by Esther. I think also their history only starts in 700 after the muslim conquest. So what happened to the great Persian empire, starting with Cyrus the Great, who was a benevolent ruler, friendly to the Jews. They are ignoring the rest of their history before 700. He is also against the proletariat Jews; what Iran needs is a moderate proletariat middle class to be a democracy.
will be the world surprised that 78% to 88% of the palestinians agree and love ahmadinagarbage!
Achmadinejad is a buffoon, albeit a dangerous one, but the Iranian people are coming out of their stupor. The writing is on the wall that the current regime has entered its last phase. The objective now is to contain the insanity. The regime's goal is to cement its perceived standing as the leader of the Moslem world. Unfortunately, the Shiites would do better to counter the real thret against them which is radical Sunni Islam a la Al-Qaida. In the latter's scheme of things the Persian (non-Arab) Shiites are the ultimate blasphemers and subject to destruction.
will bring havoc on the president of Iran. Together with his masters the mullahs in Tehran he will have the wrath of God Almighty on them. Poor Iranian people, the freedom seeking amongst them not able to get rid of him. Shalom from Holland
Dr. of Death, Ahmadinejad has no qualms about dirtying his elbows while scraping from the bottom of the barrel of antisemitic scum to insult Israel and Jews. Insecure Iran just can't reconcile their self-elevated religion playing third fiddle to Judaism and Christianity so they throw a terrorist tantrum to gain the world's attention. The Iranian Regime is too scared to confront Israel head on at its borders and chance their crack troops and cracked religion being publicly humiliated so they play safely instead to the spiritual carnality of the Arab world by boisterously beckoning other bafoons to do their dirty work instead.
Honestly, I almost never cease being impressed with the Germans. I can understand why some of our forebears felt so at home there and felt like true Germans. However, Germany must cease trade with Iran immediately. What other posters have said is true: actions speak louder than words.
Sir, firstly you have to be careful when the current German FM says something because the German foreign policy regarding the Middle East is formulated by Dr. A. Merkel, the Chanc. of the FR of Germany. Secondly, when it comes to the terrible fate of the Jewish-Europeans that were murdered by the Germans between 1933 and 1945 one should not use the word Holocaust because these two Greek words are not appropriate because it means Total Destruction/Elimination and that was not the case; otherwise I would not be in a position to write this comment. It should be a German or even better a Jiddish name - then the Iran. president could not question the "Holocaust"
How many were put to death purely because of their religion?
Don't know what to believe but here are some obvious questions that are never answered properly.. Why do so many "eye witnesses" give ridiculous and impossible accounts? Why has the plaque at Auschwitz been changed to a lower figure? Why does the IRC (which had access to the camps and the death notices) talk of approx 300.000 deliberate deaths? How come so many, particularly "useless" children, survived the efficient death camps to become "victims" of today? How come Treblinka show no disturbance to Ground Radar despite the turning over necessary to first bury then exhume almost 1000000 bodies? The questions can go on... The answers to these indisputable facts don't convince and are rather a problem for the established story.. But the main problem is, if the Holocaust story is absolutely correct in all aspects, research of all kinds around it would be welcome and not illegal... That is the biggest problem and the elephant down in the pan.. Isn't it?? Bet this doesn't get an airing..
the shoah and 9/11 questions. Anyone, but especially those in countries with freedom of speech that ask ANY questions about either will be tossed in prison for life. That will teach those cretins to respect democracy!
Ahmadinejad has only put the Jewish figure into question.We all know how many other people suffered and nobody has ever put into question this point,so I realy do not know what you are talking about.
Total deaths in the war may have been 75 million, including those in the death camps. However, the world's Jewish population was cut in half by Hitler's Final solution.
I don't recall the Jews in Poland firing 8,000 rockets at the Germans. A better comparison could be made with the Native American Indians or the Indians of South America or the Maories or the Aborigines and all those who never had the means to defend themselves. Hamas were armed to the teeth. I do take your point about not taking responsibility for the carnage inflicted on others. There was an election coming up. It's as simple and as cold a fact as that.Isn't it just possible that this is what the Palestian leadership were pushing for? Look what's has happened since Cast Lead. It was all so pedictable.
Hey Yakov, is nuclear war mongering really the thing to to at Rosh Hashanah ? You'd better think about it. Ahmadinejahd might be a powerless fool, but Israel still is a nuclear threat for world peace. The proof: read No.13
What do you mean those "who deny Cast Lead"? No one is denying what happened. What is at issue is who was at fault. The Israelies who wentinto Gaza to stop rockets from being fired at their civiians or Hamas who surrounded themselves with civilians and secreted weapons throughout civilian infrastructure. There is is simply no comparison and suggesting that one is simply much more venal than the other is venal in itself. In short, you haven't fooled anyone.
Theresa you must be (Mrs) Bush. No wonder the worlds in such a mess. Kill kill kill Isnt it time we grew up???
We need to bring back ghengis khans mongol hoards to finish off the persians a second time me thinks. i bet ahmadinijad dosent disagree that GK men killed 1,000,000 persians does he? iran know this, allah wont help u when a jericho missile with a 500KT warhead slams into tehran, isvahan and shiraz.
The evidence for the Holocaust is overwhelming. It involves detailed records, the immense volume of reports of the liberation of the camps, and the hundreds of thousands of accounts of survivors and millions of accounts of the liberators. The fact of the Holocaust is beyond dispute. Ahmadinejad foams about some 'conspiracy' to prevent any unbiased investigation of the Holocaust. His is paranoid ravings, or the calculated ploy of a vile manipulator. On the other hand we have the Cast Lead Deniers. They ignore the immense photographic, and recorded history of Cast Lead. Those Cast Lead Deniers shave with Ahmadinejad a paranoid refusal to admit to the truth. They deny any need to prove them right. They refuse to allow any proof of their position. There is no difference between Ahmadinejad who denies the Holocaust and those who deny Cast Lead. There is a difference in the monstrosity of the crime. But no difference in the venality of the denial.
The past happened and it happened there with a piece of trash that he was lower than a worm worst than scum that bunch that left such a beautiful countryside with such an ugly mark in history. But that was then and today you are proving that they where wrong with your words and actions, BRAVO to you.... Eventhough there are still idiots among all of us, you are proving to be a friend of the world and not a shameful part of a disaster that was.
....Mahmoud and tell him about the "Holocaust". Might be worth a (last) try...:)
"Ahmadinejad said at a Quds (Jerusalem) Day rally in Tehran earlier Friday that, "The pretext [Holocaust] for the creation of the Zionist regime [Israel] is false ... It is a lie based on an unprovable and mythical claim." " Since when does the word pretext mean Holocaust in the English Language ? Could not just the "ownership" meant here ? In 2 weeks are elections and Steinmeier will loose. After all he (Steinmeier) is doing different things than the tells. He is somehow inviting radical Islamists to Germany instead of fighting it.
I firmy deny the existence of Ahmedenejad's brain. I don't care what his conservative supporters say...he's missing it and I'll continue to deny it despite any logical explanation. Oh yea, the world is flat. Fact is fact. The Holocaust happened and instead of denying fact learn from it and move on to prevent it from happening again to anybody, not just the Jewish people.
Ahmanutjob is truly that....a Nutjob!! However to believe that he actually thinks the Holocaust never occured is to demean a man that has a very very different agenda. He is using semantics to define that the Holocaust is not a reason for creating Zionism, nor is it a justifiable reason for the creation of the State of Israel. He has taken great steps to support terrorism, murdered people throughout the world as a result. The current race for a nuclear weapon is something that every intelligence agency in the world knows to be true. Osama Bin Laden with his hands on a Nuke? that is what Ahmanutjob is and his Cleric supporters. Murder anyone in the name of Allah. Forget the crying and whining. Forget preventing him from speaking on the international stage. he is a hero to Muslims everywhere. Worry about more serious things that Iran under his direction are doing. Get rid of him and get rid of the nukes.
Little Ahmad..... thinks he's seducing the world. But in any seduction there's a moment on the sofa.... a Schtupping point. Looks like Ahmadinejad's moment is up. His racism is self-evident in Farsi or any language. Susan Rice, Steinmeier and David Miliban condemned the rhetoric for the bigotry it displays. Let's see if Ahmadinejad's racism proves to be irresistible to the Russians or Chinese.
but he is trying to divert attention from his nuclear bomb. Can't you s-e-e-e-e! Every moment is precious... Save yourselves you stupid world, get him before he is getting you. No ands or buts...
75,000,000 died in the Holocaust. The Jewish portion(Shoah)was 6,000,000. If anyone questions the Gentile portion it's okay, but don't question the Jewish segment? Is it sacred ground? I thought everyone suffered in that war. As for the German FM, guilty conscience? Salaam/Shalom
I might be a lot more impressed with our fair foreign minister if this actually percolated into something like trade restrictions. For some reason, however, this does not happen. It's not even like Iran is a major trading partner for us, so I can't explain why they're gainsaying themselves so much.
Ahmadinejad is really making a fool of himself and his supporters. You would think Iran had history classes in this day and age. He is making Iran look really ignorant to the rest of the world. What a shame for the Iranian people.
"This sheer anti-Semitism demands our collective condemnation. We will continue to confront it decisively in the future." Actions speak louder than words. Stop all trade with Iran. You are their largest European trading partner.