• Published 03:36 25.09.09
  • Latest update 07:46 25.09.09

WATCH: Katie Couric confronts Ahmadinejad with Holocaust photos

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By Natasha Mozgovaya Tags: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Iran Israel news

Hours before addressing the United Nations on Wednesday, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad gave an exclusive interview to CBS's Katie Couric. During the course of the interview, the CBS anchorwoman accused the Iranian leader of denying the Holocaust, and showing him photographs of dead bodies of Jews killed by the Nazis during World War II.

"You have called [the Holocaust] a lie," Katie confronted Ahmadinejad. "And I'm just curious, I have some photos - dead bodies from a German concentration camp taken by the Associated Press. Mr. President, is this photo fabricated? Is this photo a lie?" she asked.

Ahmadinejad was quick to reply "there are many historical events, similar historical events. Why is this one in particular so important to you?"

"Because you're denying it happened," Couric retorted.

Ahmadinejad replied that "in World War II, 60 million people were killed. Why are we just focusing on this special group alone?"

"We're sorry for all the 60 million people that lost their lives, equally. All of them were human beings. And it doesn't matter whether they were Christians or Jews or Buddhists or Muslims. They were killed. So, we're sorry for everyone," Ahmadinejad said.

Couric also questioned Iran's president over his country's nuclear program, asking him why he continued to refute claims that Iran has the know-how required to build a nuclear bomb. Ahmadinejad referred Couric's curiosity toward the countries "that have 10,000 nuclear warheads. Don't you believe that those are the ones that need to be inspected, instead of the countries that don't have them?"

The interview went on to touch on Ahmadinejad's controversial presidential victory in June, which sparked protests by supporters of his rival, reformist Mir Hossein Mousavi, who argued that the elections were fraudulent. Couric asked the Iranian leader about a woman, Neda, whose death during the violent protests was recorded on a cell phone camera and spread around the world.

Ahmadinejad said that he regretted the deaths of citizens, but again diverted the discussion by showing Couric a picture of an Egyptian woman who was brutally murdered inside a German courtroom while participating in a trial over her right to wear a hijab (head covering). He then argued that the western media focused on Neda and ignored the Egyptian woman.

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  • 24. 0 0
    egyptian woman
    • bronstein
    • 06.10.09
    • 12:50

    The Egyptian woman who was brutally murdered in court in Germany was NOT in court fighting for her right to wear a headscarf. Anyone can wear a headscarf in Germany. This woman was suing a man who insulted her for being a Muslim. The guy was a right-winger who then killed her in court. It was a horrid incident, but it is was an individual case of violence not mass violence like in Iran.

  • 23. 0 0
    Iran
    • Ariel
    • 05.10.09
    • 10:39

    Ahmadinejad is a lunatic and as bad as Uganda's Idi Amin or Iran's Khomeni. All these characters were unfortunately virulently anti-Jew and against Israel. And worse, this mad man is in possession of N-technology. Israel must find ways to counter this idiot before he does grave harm to Jews and Israel.

  • 22. 0 0
    His Obvious Disdain for Women
    • DC
    • 02.10.09
    • 04:29

    Watch how he can barely look her in the eyes.He is clearly not used to having women on the same stature as he is talking equally to him and the way he does not look her in the eyes is a obvious dis to her from him.

  • 21. 0 0
    The problem is 1 to 5 million Iranians were killed in war Iraq
    • Karoon
    • 27.09.09
    • 19:40

    The problem is you are force feeding a man a holocaust when in his country 1 -5 million Iranians were killed in the war with Iraq. Do we acknowledge their holocaust?Yes we as Jew/Hebrew have a holocaust.Do we also move on. Yes the land is Israel not Irans.Yes we are one nation with three states with Palestinian and Arabic and Persian families living there.NO they do not own land rights as a nation by their citizens.No there will be no human trafficking. Why are we forcing an Al Queda lead who is a genuius who believes that part of his destiny is the Armageddon by religious rights to the calendraic year. They are so use to holocaust life that they think it is no big deal. They walked through killing fields just recently.To them it just happened.To them what is the point.Walk a mile in their shoes and our shoes.Yes it happened.Yes it was real.Yes it must be stopped because it still happens whether you want to admit it or not.It just did in eastern europe.They were Jews. Karoon

  • 20. 0 0
    #12 Malka L. - What makes Jews special
    • *BEN JABO
    • 26.09.09
    • 18:11

    Is that both Hitler and Ahmadinejad specifically selected them as targets for total extermination

  • 19. 0 0
    Malka
    • Darren
    • 25.09.09
    • 23:27

    Also, Ahmadinejad is doing something called "flip-flopping." Although he hasn't made his new opinion any more noble in this interview, it is a different approach he has taken before and even as recently as the last week. He consistently has DENIED the Holocaust, he refers to it as a myth, he calls it a lie. You are a coward to empower this kind of semantic shift the same way he is a coward not to have the courage in his convictions to repeat his claims when confronted in an environment where the person asking cannot be killed for doing so.

  • 18. 0 0
    RE: why are jews special
    • David
    • 25.09.09
    • 20:43

    The obvious difference, Malka, is that the Nazis formulated a plan to annihilate European Jewry, made systematic lists of all the Jews across Europe (in the different towns, villages, etc), collected them up in concentration camps, gassed them, and then put them into ovens. So unfortunately, we were special. Crazy that people like you and Ahmadinejad can't get it through your heads. (Although Ahmadinejad probably does understand and just uses this for political reasons; who knows why you don't get it)

  • 17. 0 0
    for dani a (11)
    • jackie
    • 25.09.09
    • 19:53

    if the Jews in Israel are conducting a genocide of the Arabs, they are remarkably inefficient. The number of Arab refugees has skyrocketed from less than one million to about six million and during Cast Lead, fewer than 2 thousand were killed out of a population of 1.5 million. During the years the Nazis were in power they succeeded in killing about half the world's Jewish population. Now that's a fairly successful attempt at genocide.

  • 16. 0 0
    Jews are not special to Ahmadinejah
    • Lola
    • 25.09.09
    • 19:25

    in fact no one is, not even the 60 millions.He uses this fact to diminish the jewish holocaust, to drown it. If he really was the caring type, he would care for his people and what goes on in Iranian prisons, he would not with Khomeini order repression against peaceful marchers. Ahmadinejah, at the UN, at Durban, anytime he speaks in his country or elsewhere denies the jewish experience, denigrates Israel right to exist and accuses Israel of all the ills in the world. 6 millions of jews dead in the Holocaust is crucial to us jews, as 1/2 of our population was wiped out. Denying this fact, playing with it, using it for political purposes and influence, is despicable. And no, the world does not need Ahmadinajeh to question it, it has been documented enough for everyone who is truly seeking the truth to find it.

  • 15. 0 0
    to Malka
    • Dan
    • 25.09.09
    • 19:23

    Malka, Jews were a specific Target of the Nazi regime....aka the "Final Solution" which was Hitlers plan for a greater Europe free of Jews. You should watch the transcripts of the Eichmann trial. Jews were specifically as well as gypsies and homosexuals carted off and exported to concentration camps as part of the Master plan of the final solution. Ahmadinejad misses the point. I think Israel should try to rescue the 25000 jews still living in the Islamic republic of Iran...I didn't think things were this bad until I listended to this mans speech at the UN. The only thing lacking was the little mustache. We should be asking if the writing on the wall is about to occur for the well being of My Jewish brothers and sisters in this country and get them the hell out of there before it is too late...History unfortunately is about to repeat itself...The writing was on the wall in Germany prior to the war and now in Iran....

  • 14. 0 0
    ahmedinejad
    • zkt83
    • 25.09.09
    • 18:43

    Ahmedinejad is right on one thing. Western Media showed extensively about the woman killed in Iranian protest but they did not even mention about Egyptian woman killed inside German courtroom.

  • 13. 0 0
    # Malka .. wow a hebrew name "Qeen"
    • Josef
    • 25.09.09
    • 18:36

    Well, Miss Qeenie, for your lack in general education knowledge: 1. Yes, above 60 million were killed during WW2 and it is right to express sorrow to every single one equally. 2. What makes the Jews special and the Holocaust a Holocaust its the govermantal decision of the Nazi-Regime at the Wannsee-Conference to terminate all of the european Judaism. AND... it was not only murder or genocide but industrialized extinction of people belonging to judaism, commonly known as Jews, belonging to the anicient tribe of Israel. Any more questions? ;)

  • 12. 0 0
    Why are jews special?
    • Malka L
    • 25.09.09
    • 12:35

    Everyone rushes to attack and ridicule Ahmadinejad, has anyone listened to the interview or read the transcript?. Rather than denying the holocaust he repeatedly acknoweledges it and expresses sorrow for it. What seems to upset people is his belief that ALL people killed in WW2 have the same value and should be mourned equally. Please remember that notions of racial superiority were one of the causes of the holocaust, lets remember all those killed, not just the "the chosen people".

  • 11. 0 0
    bravo haaretz
    • dani.a
    • 25.09.09
    • 12:16

    You make a very good service for justice recommending this interview with mr..I think that even Ms Couric learnt something beyond slogans and cliche and next time she will be ready to speak about the Palestinian genocide which happens today as the first issue and about whatever other issue from history as a second interest matter.

  • 10. 0 0
    Holocaust Photos
    • JordanisPalestine
    • 25.09.09
    • 11:57

    Did she actually think that would convince him?

  • 9. 0 0
    clown
    • Chaim Ben Kahan
    • 25.09.09
    • 09:45

    Why do they keep putting this guy on tv?

  • 8. 0 0
    Tim of Hamburg
    • sh
    • 25.09.09
    • 09:44

    The fact remains that the Dresden police decided that the presumably light-skinned killer could not be the assassin and shot at the man who ran to defend her, who happened to be her husband, instead. Why do you think this was? The fact also remains that the assassin apparently verbally abused the woman in the park incident that caused her to seek justice (and brought her and the assassin to court on that fateful day), because she was wearing the hijab. Ahmadinejad is an opportunist and there are, unfortunately, plenty of opportunities to prove racism.

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  • 6. 0 0
    woman murdered in germany
    • Tim
    • 25.09.09
    • 09:26

    In the end of the article it says that Achmadineja showed a picture of an egyptian woman, who was murdered in a German courtroom during a trail over her right to wear a hijab. That is not entirely correct. It was a criminal trail, where the woman was supposed to testify as a whitness. She had been insulted by a russian immigrant on a playground some time before. This was the procedure in which these insults where brought to court. When she was about to testify the mentioned russion immigrant (who was the culprit) attacked the woman with a knife an killed her. His motives were apparently hatred against foreigners and muslims. So the trail was not at all about the right to wear a hijab. The right to religious liberty is garanteed by the German Constitution (Article 4) and includes wearing a hijab.

  • 5. 0 0
    Equally sorry? About deaths he denies?
    • Brad
    • 25.09.09
    • 07:54

    Put the man in an asylum? Oops, he runs one ... Iran. I'm so sorry for what are undoubtedly civilized and decent Iranians. Prisoners of madmen.

  • 4. 0 0
    How much media attention did Egyptians dedicate...
    • Mike
    • 25.09.09
    • 07:27

    ...to the BUS LOAD of German tourists who were slaughtered by Islamists outside of a Cairo museum during the 1990s? Probably not nearly as much as Marwa El-Sherbini, the Egyptian woman who was brutally murdered in an obvious hate crime. By the way, the man who stabbed her was an ethnic Russian immigrant, not a German. And he's being prosecuted. Unlike the killer of Neda, who's probably being praised and promoted within the ranks of the Basij. As for the Western media ignoring the case, that's bullcrap. It is true that the stolen Iranian election has received more coverage, but is that so shocking? Neda was simply a symbol of multiple deaths. Unlike the El-Sherbini murder, which is a relatively isolated incident. Lastly, foreign tourists are assaulted in the Arab world, frequently. Let's not pretend otherwise. And such cases almost never elicit a single word in Western papers or websites.

  • 3. 0 0
    The man is insane and delusional
    • judith
    • 25.09.09
    • 07:14

    There's no point in discussing anything with him

  • 2. 0 0
    We Need To Decide If This Dialogue Is Even Worth It...
    • Yosemite
    • 25.09.09
    • 06:38

    Sometimes it's just a question of whether you go to war or you don't go to war. But let's assume that both Iran and the West agree that war is the last option. Now that can't totally be true because we're already at war in Iraq and Afghanistan and Iran is operating a war using surrogates in Lebanon and in Gaza as well as sleeper groups which may be posed to do something in various parts of the Globe. Well we have problems. Is Iran standing up for Al-Qaeda and the Taliban that we are at war with? Is Iran supporting revolutionary schemes to eliminate governments which are friendly to the West? Is Iran undermining Western Democracies? How far will Iran go to get what it wants? Use nukes? The flipside about the way Mahmoud addresses the Holocaust in the Muslim World is why and how leaders there like Mahmoud use the Palestinian Issue to manipulate the Muslim masses. He equates the Holocaust with the Palestinian Exodus. He thinks he's clever. That's why he always smiles and then responds.

  • 1. 0 0
    US media quiet the show....
    • jc
    • 25.09.09
    • 06:27

    israeli pm gets the royal treatment....iranian prez spit at....about the same fairness it gives the pals....its why I dont watch any US media