• Published 08:52 17.01.10
  • Latest update 15:41 17.01.10

U.S. official: Arming of Hezbollah could spark Israel-Syria war

Official to Kuwaiti paper: Hezbollah operatives training in Syria on batteries of SA2 anti-aircraft missiles.

By Jack Khoury Tags: Hezbollah Syria Israel news

An American source says that Syria allowed Hezbollah operatives to train within its territory in the use of advanced SA2 anti-aircraft missile batteries, the Kuwaiti daily Al Rai reported Sunday.

In an interview, the senior U.S. official warned that if Syria supplies Hezbollah with this type of missile, Israel will bomb Damascus and a war will likely ensue.

According to the official, Israel has warned Syria not to allow the transfer of the SA2 missiles into the hands of Hezbollah, and views the transfer of such missiles as the crossing of a red line.

He added that he did not believe that a war would break out soon, unless one of the sides violated the undeclared agreement not to cross the red lines defined by both sides.

The Second Lebanon War, waged in 2006 between Israel and Hezbollah, turned southern Lebanon into a territory not unlike the Golan Heights, in that it does not enjoy the absence of conflict but rather a fragile cease-fire, the official said.

Since the war ended, the international intelligence community and the United Nations have been closely monitoring the smuggling of weapons from Syria to Hezbollah, but the ongoing smuggling has not yet crossed the so call red lines.

The official added that Israel's top priority at this point is to prevent Hezbollah from obtaining the SA2 missiles, which are controlled from a remote command center. The official stressed that if Syria turns these weapons over to Hezbollah, Israel will not hesitate to strike Syria, including the capital Damascus.

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  • 92. 0 0
    Excellent, but false picture from Walid 57.
    • Akram Zekaria
    • 28.01.10
    • 13:59

    You forget to mention who is bankrolling Hezbollah ? Considering your post, you might be saying if asked, 'the angel gabriel from tehran' ! Those who exccuted by hanging to-day two demonstrators practicing their human's rights !

  • 91. 0 0
    #75 Johnboy
    • Moshe
    • 18.01.10
    • 22:30

    You still don't get it: It must be hatred of the Israeli. But I have the answer:If you can recall or if you can read history, the year 1948 has a peculiar significance to the Jew,Palestinian,Druze and Arab.That is the year of Israel's independence,and,also the year of the Arab's attempt to complete the job that your hero,Adolph,left undone.Among the Arab nations that participated in that effort was Lebanon,a nation still at war with the Jewish State.The critical issue is not hegemony,but a Jewish State with secure borders and peace with its neighbors.If Israel can't have the latter,then the former is not achieved.Since the Hez is part of the Lebanese government and has not disarmed with the government's indifference,the IAF must continue overflights.

  • 90. 0 0
    #36 Natalie
    • Moshe
    • 18.01.10
    • 19:13

    Your statement,"No member of the IAF has ever experienced anti-aircraft fire," is untrue.For example,during the Yom Kippur War 102 IAF aircraft were lost due mostly to ground to air missile and AA attacks.Five were lost to air to air combat.Arab aircraft losses were about 514.

  • 89. 0 0
    #47 Natalie
    • Moshe
    • 18.01.10
    • 18:56

    The aircraft losses of the USA during the first Gulf war were 2 or 3,as I can recall.No US aircraft were downed from air to air conmbat.100,000 sorties were flown,dropping 88,500 tons of bombs dropped.Not a bad record.

  • 88. 0 0
    #76 No, it changes nothing, Stephen
    • Johnboy
    • 18.01.10
    • 15:36

    SL: "Johnboy, thanks again for pointing out the legal position. I am wondering whether anti aircraft missiles, which by definition are defensive rather than aggressive, change the situation even further. " No, not at all. At the core this is an "arms race" between the IDF and Hezbollah. An arms race is hardly a new concept, indeed, they are rather commonplace and have been for centuries. YOU CAN'T ATTACK A COUNTRY MERELY BECAUSE YOU WANT TO WIN AN ARMS RACE.

  • 87. 0 0
    to #nero
    • matt
    • 18.01.10
    • 14:55

    On the contrary the US pilots have experienced AA weapons in recent history - the Serbs even managed to down a B17 stealth aircraft. As for Israel starting a major international war because some obselete AA weapons are obtained by Hezbollah, that seems highly unlikely even though the IAF /IDF like to keep their aura of invincibility by fighting unarmed opponents

  • 86. 0 0
    greg 64
    • potobac
    • 18.01.10
    • 09:11

    Your contention that monitoring the build-up is the goal of Israeli overflights is sheer nonsense. That kind of info could be gotten by single planes flying at 40,000 feet. The overflights are for intimidation.

  • 85. 0 0
    #5 So is Israel, CJK
    • Open Your Eyes
    • 18.01.10
    • 05:53

    More directly so than Syria.

  • 84. 0 0
    #29 Chris Linthwaite
    • Jim
    • 18.01.10
    • 05:06

    "Genie is already out of the bottle which is why Israel overflies Lebanon to try and get their aircraft illuminated by anti aircraft radar." Won't do them any good. SA2 has a network of sites all controlled from one central HQ. Knock out a site and there are plenty more still operable. I wonder just how many of these systems Lebanon already has in operation and how many sites per each HQ?

  • 83. 0 0
    #20 wael
    • Jim
    • 18.01.10
    • 04:38

    Israel stands on the hilltop and proclaims her might. But with today's threat, she announces to the world that her strength depends as much upon her neighbor's deficiency in weapons of defense as upon anything else. Certainly it is Lebanon's right to provide for her own defense! And the world will cheer when the first Israeli plane over foreign territory is shot down This has nothing to do with loyalties, or with right/wrong, or with political philosophy. It is simply that no one respects an aggressor government anywhere and is always glad to see it taken down a notch. So bring on the SA2's.

  • 82. 0 0
    a gift from our old friend, Mahmoud
    • Neville Chamberlain
    • 18.01.10
    • 02:51

    This is most likely a modified and upgraded SA-2 from Iran. This is real test of whether Israeli aircrafts can attacked at high altitude as in the 2nd Lebanon War, since SA-2s perform best at high altitude targets. And also this may give an insight how well Israel will perform in a plan attack on Iran's nuclear facilities.

  • 81. 0 0
    So ...
    • directrob
    • 18.01.10
    • 01:04

    Bomb Damascus???? Either Al Rai writes fairy tales or I think one senior American official can find another job ...

  • 80. 0 0
    Chris Linthwaite - so you believe Israel should not exist as
    • David Israel
    • 18.01.10
    • 01:02

    a sovereign state. Thanks for clarifying your position to all Haaretz readers. Now we all know where you stand. The UN recognizes Israel as a sovereign state and as member of its body. Israel was not reinvented on the ashes of the Holocaust as you suggest. The foundation was cast after the Dreyfus affair in France around 1895 way before WW II and WW I. The Balfour declaration was signed on November 2, 1917.

  • 79. 0 0
    Okan from Istaenbul let's be fair
    • David Israel
    • 18.01.10
    • 00:23

    The PKK with only light arms like AK47s and home made IEDs should not worry you too but your military strikes them with fighter jets modernized in Israel, using Israeli Heron's for intelligence and the Israeli modified Tanks. So please be fair. After all Israel is supporting Turkish causes in every platform while Arabs are against Turkish causes in Cyprus and Lebanon has passed a law recognizing th eArmenian atrocities of 1915 as Genocide. Wake up and be fair.

  • 78. 0 0
    #43 utagawa misses an important point
    • Johnboy
    • 17.01.10
    • 23:45

    u: "I don`t know how it is in your country, but in many others, if the police discover a house or mosque where stockpiles of weapons are stored waiting to be used in the next crime, they certainly won`t wait until the crime is committed." The police certainly would not mount such a raid OUTSIDE of their jurisdiction, sunshine. Such a raid would be quite illegal. An Israeli "raid" into either Lebanon or Syria would be outside the "jurisdiction" of the Israel DEFENSE Force, and would therefore be naked aggression.

  • 77. 0 0
    I don't get it - yes, Hezbollah is nasty but ..
    • AB
    • 17.01.10
    • 23:45

    Israel seems to think it can routinely violate Lebanese airspace. Israel thinks that having Lebanese forces able to shoot down aircraft over Lebanese territory would 'cross a red line'. Yet if an Arab country were to violate Israeli airspace, we KNOW that Israel would shoot them down, with good justification.

  • 76. 0 0
    Johnboy: Being anti aircraft missiles, does that change things?
    • Stephen L
    • 17.01.10
    • 23:41

    Johnboy, thanks again for pointing out the legal position. I am wondering whether anti aircraft missiles, which by definition are defensive rather than aggressive, change the situation even further. Israel cannot even argue that they can be used to attack Israel; rather only that they can make it more difficult for Israel to attack Lebanon/ Hezbollah.

  • 75. 0 0
    #30 Eli asks
    • Johnboy
    • 17.01.10
    • 23:40

    E: "I agree israel attacking Syria because it sold a weapon, that wasn`t a WMD to Hezbollah is not a reason for imminenet existential threat but what is the recourse?" *sheesh* These missiles don't have a great deal of range, Eli; they are intended to shoot down attacking jets. So don't fly Israeli F-16s into Lebanese airspace. P.r.o.b.l.e.m. S.o.l.v.e.d. Eli, this is not about dealing with a *threat* *to* *Israel*, but about maintaining Israel's hegemony in the region. Starting - first and foremost - with it's hither-to unchallenged ability to fly its fighter jets over neighbouring airspace.

  • 74. 0 0
    Chris Linthwaite #64
    • Paulo
    • 17.01.10
    • 23:22

    When jews depended on others for their safety the world did nothing - culminating with the holocaust. Israel was never envisaged as a protectorate as you say,but exactly the opposite. Israel was always envisaged as a place where jews would live and defend themselves no matter what others will say or do - I recommend you to learn history. Finally,you and I will die sooner or later,but Israel as the homeland for the jewish people will live forever no matter how many Linthwaite's will pass in its way

  • 73. 0 0
    #22: Crossing a Red Line
    • EZ
    • 17.01.10
    • 22:42

    You say that if Israel attacks Syria over the transfer of the anti-aircraft missles it would be 'naked aggression.' You know what? Call it what you will. Israel will not play by the ignorant, backward and manipulative rules of the worthless UN and its support of terrorist nations. Israel will attack when it is threatened, period. Again, pop off at the mouth, say what you want...who cares anymore? No one. We've had enough of "PC" morons destroying our peace and freedom to pursue a meaningful existence.

  • 72. 0 0
    "Ongoing smuggling has not crossed Red Line??"
    • EZ
    • 17.01.10
    • 22:37

    Why should Israel be forced to sit by and watch as tens of thousands of missles (that apparently do not cross a red line) be brought into Lebanon by Syria. Clearly Lebanon has NO control of its country, Hezbollah is in violatioin of international law since it is declared a terrorist organization and yet again, the world asks Irael to stand by idle as its enemy arms itself. This Political Correct Diplomacy will wind up blowing up in the face of the international community when Israel is forced to fight. That fight will be against Lebanon, Syria and the palestinians. And based upon Jerusalem's position: it will be pretty darn final. Why does the int'l community hate Israel so much? Sad and pathetic. GO ISRAEL!!!

  • 71. 0 0
    #55 Paulo
    • Chris Linthwaite
    • 17.01.10
    • 22:16

    Israel shouldn't be allowed to defend itself. It should be a UN protectorate as a safe haven for Jews as was originally envisaged when Israel was reinvented on the ashes of the Holocaust.

  • 70. 0 0
    To Myles on Mafia Dons
    • Dan
    • 17.01.10
    • 22:00

    Hezbo keeps its vast arms all the time so why the surprise that Israel oveflies Hezbanon to keep them in check and gather intelligence? And the last time I checked, the weapons are to be supplied to Hezbo terrorists not to the Lebanese army. Reality bites.

  • 69. 0 0
    ClearCut, FussyThinker
    • Brad
    • 17.01.10
    • 21:40

    Israel fights anyone who attacks her, whether they are armed or not. Might be a good idea for those that attack her to take that into account and to recosider their policies of hiding beneath the skirts of women, the innocence of children and the spent aggression of their men.

  • 68. 0 0
    So which war will it be Mr. Netanyahu?
    • Mark Lincoln
    • 17.01.10
    • 21:40

    This all reminds me of those heady days after Bush's 'Mission Accomplished' speech. There was a belief in the government that our troops would mostly be out of Iraq in three to six months and we would be able to take down another member of the Axis of Evil. The top contenders were Iran and Syria. We have an Israeli government which seems bent upon war and several targets for that war are being touted. Gaza, Lebanon and Iran have been mentioned, and now it seems someone is trying to put Syria in play. Which will your choice be Mr. Netanyahu?

  • 67. 0 0
    Nattallie, 75 aircraft doesn't tell the whole story
    • Greg
    • 17.01.10
    • 21:40

    The Coalition lost 52 fixed-wing aircraft and 23 helicopters during Desert Storm, with 39 fixed-wing aircraft and 5 helicopters lost in combat. Only one Coalition fighter was lost in aerial combat, with Iraqi pilots making a second, more dubious claim. The rest of the Coalition losses came from antiaircraft fire. The Americans lost 28 fixed-wing aircraft and 5 helicopters, the British 7 fixed-wing aircraft, the Saudis 2, the Italians 1, and the Kuwaitis 1. In addition, during the invasion of Kuwait on August 2 1990 the Kuwaiti Air Force lost 12 fixed-wing aircraft destroyed on the ground, 6 helicopters shot down and 2 destroyed on the ground. However the point is not the effectiveness of AA to shoot down Israeli aircraft during an invasion but to prevent overflights so Hez can move arms in prep for an offensive operation. Monitoring this build-up is clearly the stated goal of the IAF with the overflights. Therefore the protection of Lebanon from Israeli attack is a red herring

  • 66. 0 0
    The S-75 is not a man portable system.
    • Mark Lincoln
    • 17.01.10
    • 21:29

    A single battery is composed of many vehicles and vans. There are six SM-90 launchers, the RSN-75 (Fan Song) engagement radar van, the P-12 (Spoon Rest) search radar van, a communications van (usually Mercury Grass) several PR-11 transloaders and Zil tractors a couple of command vans and generators to power the site. This is also not a system operated by a few guys. It is not something which could be easily smuggled into Lebanon. Which raises the question of WHO is being trained if anyone is. Is the Lebanese Army about to acquire Surface to Air Missiles with which to threaten Israel's ongoing violations of Lebanese airspace?

  • 65. 0 0
    This is really an Israeli warning to Syria
    • U have been warned
    • 17.01.10
    • 21:23

  • 64. 0 0
    I F, I F, IF
    • Mahidi
    • 17.01.10
    • 20:32

    tomorrow, Syria is bombed, what is then the next scenerio? Will Syria just take it witout retaliation? Will Iran NOT helping the Syrians? Will the HezBALLAH just store away all them 30.000 missiles. and forget to let them GO? Will Hamas watching the show of Force only.? Will the Jordanians Palestinians stay unhelpful? Will the EGYTIANS Muslims Brotherwood stay quite? What about the odds 57 Islamic Countries would do or NOT DO?

  • 63. 0 0
    No Surprise
    • Keen Observer.
    • 17.01.10
    • 20:18

    The testing of NEW military hardware will take place in the 3rd Theatre call SYRIA, after Lebanon, and Gaza, Syria is of course the last testing ground, before the great final taking place in I R A N .

  • 62. 0 0
    to #5
    • Felix
    • 17.01.10
    • 20:12

    If Siria is a terrorist state because supplies arms to his friendly countries, what about USA or France or Israel supplying unmaned aircraf to the turks???

  • 61. 0 0
    US IS ARMING HIZBOLLAH!!!
    • Ian
    • 17.01.10
    • 20:01

    This surely points out the confusion in US foreign policy since the arrival of Obama. Of course rearming Hizbollah might start a war between Israel and Hizbollah-Syria.Yet the US,itself is proposing to supply the Lebanon government with arms that Hizbollah could get its hands on at any time and use against Israel. At the moment it's fair to say that with friends like Obama,who needs enemies? THREE CHEERS FOR ISRAEL!!!

  • 60. 0 0
    To Chris Linthwaite #31
    • Paulo
    • 17.01.10
    • 19:53

    So tell me Chris,and why are you always preaching what the israeli people can or cannot do to defend themselves?

  • 59. 0 0
  • 58. 0 0
    Zionest Forever re Natallie
    • Walter M
    • 17.01.10
    • 19:22

    Just because it is capable of dealing with AA doesn`t mean that it wants to, all militaries even countries like the US with all their hardware prefer to fight an enemy who has weak defenses Of course! This is so obvious it really shouldn't need to be stated. Natallie plays into typically anti Jewish stereotypes; that Jews are somehow more weak and cowardly then other people.

  • 57. 0 0
    utagawa
    • Walid
    • 17.01.10
    • 19:15

    Hizbullah is neither reckless nor aggressive, it's the Lebanese national resistance that came into being during the Israeli occcupation of Lebanon. The whole country (minus a few Israeli collaborators)is proud of it for having ended the 22-year occupation by Israel. It doesn't have any designs on Israel other than to protect Lebanon against its incursions. Lebanon and Hizbullah cannot and do not want to invade Israel but want to be left alone. What is standing in the way of Hizbullah's military disbanding is the ending by Israel of its occupation of Chebaa Farms, part of the village of Ghajjar and the Kfarshouba Heights and for Israel to stop trying to steal Lebanons' water. You seem proud of what Israel did in Gaza and it tells me what sort of person you are.

  • 56. 0 0
    N Durson
    • Walter M
    • 17.01.10
    • 19:11

    "During Israels 2006 war, Hizbollah shot down an Israeli helicopter, but that pilot is no longer with us." So you are saying that Hezbollah only fired at one Israeli helicopter during the entire war. That seems unlikely

  • 55. 0 0
    Israel-Syria war
    • S Wooldridge
    • 17.01.10
    • 19:07

    Isaiah 17:1 - "Woe to Damascus. It has been taken away from being a city, it has become a ruinous heap". Syria is playing with fire!

  • 54. 0 0
    Alan
    • Nero
    • 17.01.10
    • 19:06

    We are all missing the point. Whether the US has pilots who have experienced fire and the Israeli's don't, or vica versa is really besides the point. Pilots from every airforce in the world would prefer, given the choice, not to have to deal with anti aircraft fire - why the Israelis should be expected to different then the others is bizarre.

  • 53. 0 0
    Natallie Durston
    • zionist forever
    • 17.01.10
    • 18:57

    In both 1967 & 1973 Israel encountered anti aircraft fire and today simulates AA fire from modern systems both during war games with the US like Juniper Cobra or using its own facilities like Hawk missiles etc and more reciently simulators Just because the IAF hasn't had to deal with AA systems in recent conflicts doesn't mean its not capable. Just because it is capable of dealing with AA doesn't mean that it wants to, all militaries even countries like the US with all their hardware prefer to fight an enemy who has weak defenses Also pre emptive strikes can save lives of your people in 1967 Israel lost hundreds of soldiers Egypt alone lost around 20,000 men. In 1973 when Israel was caught off guard the casualties were much higher. So better for all side if the enemy is weak then they wil be less willing to start a war. Why do you think that Israel insists that any future palestinian entity will be unarmed and wants Hizbollah disarmed?

  • 52. 0 0
    Nero
    • Alan
    • 17.01.10
    • 18:44

    The Israeli Air force did not encounter file from the Lebanese, as you state, but Hezbollah did fire small missiles at the aircraft, similar to what he US airforce encounterd in the second Iraq war.

  • 51. 0 0
    Natallie
    • Nero
    • 17.01.10
    • 18:40

    "The USAF was under fire at various times during the Iraq wars. During the first Iraq war, American and coalition forces lost about 75 aircraft to anti-aircraft fire" That was almost twenty years ago. How old are US pilots. During the second Iraq war there was sporadic fire from hand held missles. Same as the Israeli's encountered in Lebanon.

  • 50. 0 0
    Natallie
    • Bev
    • 17.01.10
    • 18:35

    After the war in 2006 Hezbollah, as reported in Lebanese papers, moved their military headquarters from that neihborhood in South Beurit, to an undisclosed location. For the sake of the Lebanese, I hope it's not in another city

  • 49. 0 0
    #27 Walid - If you are right
    • Yonatan
    • 17.01.10
    • 18:32

    and that's a big "if", because Lebanon isn't exactly a democracy with complete freedom of expression (without fear of reprisal) - then the government and people of Lebanon will have to pay a heavy price for any further Hezbollah agression against Israel. No Israeli government - left, right or center - will stand for any further rocket and missile launchings against Israeli civilian centers of population. Is it your wish, then, to suffer the possible results of having a Hezbollah state within a state? Wouldn't you prefer only one armed force in Lebanon - the Lebanese Army - and not an extremist militia not under government control? And can you answer these two question truthfully and objectively without fear of reprisal? And - one ;ast question - how do I know that you yourself are not a member of, or sympathizer with, Hezbollah?

  • 48. 0 0
    SA2 is a defensive weapon
    • John
    • 17.01.10
    • 18:28

    You could also try and stop flying over Lebanon...

  • 47. 0 0
    Nero - update for you
    • Natallie Durson
    • 17.01.10
    • 18:24

    The USAF was under fire at various times during the Iraq wars. During the first Iraq war, American and coalition forces lost about 75 aircraft to anti-aircraft fire, mostly from shoulder launched weapons. During the second war, American aircraft were under fire at various times, particularly helicopters, which experienced a number of losses. After American forces captured the Bagdhad airport, aircraft would take off and land under fire from various weapons. During Israels 2006 war, Hizbollah shot down an Israeli helicopter, but that pilot is no longer with us.

  • 46. 0 0
    utagawa: no it wont..
    • get a clue
    • 17.01.10
    • 18:17

    even the USA is tired of you expansionist theocratic non sense and will stop funding it...you cant afford to go to war on your own resources

  • 45. 0 0
    Walid
    • utagawa
    • 17.01.10
    • 18:03

    Continued support of Lebanese people for aggressive and reckless Hezbollah actions will bring more Leb II and Gaza operation-like disasters upon your country.

  • 44. 0 0
    Lebaneses, think seriously
    • Pedro
    • 17.01.10
    • 17:57

    I think how Israel will react if a Hizbulah or Hamas missile hit Dimona, or a big chemical toxic storage. Or provoke the death of hundreds or thousands civilians. My advise is that Libaneses, Palestinias, Iranians and Syrians start to think about such possibility too. Think about consequences.

  • 43. 0 0
    Johnnyboy: it's a raid!
    • utagawa
    • 17.01.10
    • 17:56

    "Int`l law is very clear on that point: you can not attack merely to prevent someone gaining a CAPABILITY to harm you." I don't know how it is in your country, but in many others, if the police discover a house or mosque where stockpiles of weapons are stored waiting to be used in the next crime, they certainly won't wait until the crime is committed. The house is surrounded, the weapons confiscated and the terrorists or criminals either killed while resisting or arrested.

  • 42. 0 0
    iraqi freedom
    • /dahoit
    • 17.01.10
    • 17:47

    mr. lindthwait;do you really believe theres democracy in iraq? do you think we went there for that?no our frankenstein went off the reservation.now we are creating another.end of story(for now).all you armchair zionist warriors what are you doing in goyim land?go home defend your religious state.or are you chicken hawks?until their is security for all there will be security for none-its that simple.

  • 41. 0 0
    to Cipora # 5
    • al
    • 17.01.10
    • 17:22

    within the last 20 years Israel killed thousands of civilians in lebanon and occupied palestine, ignored countless un resolutions, committed war crimes as stated in a un investigation and contiues to mercelessly starve the people of gaza, I wonder who is the terrorist.

  • 40. 0 0
    Natallie
    • Nero
    • 17.01.10
    • 17:19

    The Israseli's bombed Beurit and Southern Lebanon. The Lebanese military has anti aircraft capabilities. They could have used them during the war if they had any self respect. By the way the US Air Force, to the best of my knowledge doesn't have any pilots who have encountered anti aircraft fire and I can assure you they prefer to keep it that way, as would any normal person.

  • 39. 0 0
    #34 Ralph Wipe out Syria?
    • Lou Medel
    • 17.01.10
    • 16:59

    What you wish on others should also happen to the aggressor. The ME would be a better place without Israeli war crimes, aggression, occupation,brutality, lawlessness, and racism. Salaam/Shalom

  • 38. 0 0
    Israel does not respect 1701 and keeps violating Lebanon air spac
    • Dan
    • 17.01.10
    • 16:58

    It is hard to understand how Lebanon obtaining anti aircraft capabilities endangers Israel.

  • 37. 0 0
    Yonatan
    • Walid
    • 17.01.10
    • 16:49

    Your information is way off. Over 80% of all Lebanese support Hizbullah in its conflict with Israel. The other 20% is made up of people that don't care or are collaborators of Israel. Anyone telling you that Lebanon would be at peace with Israel if it weren't for Hizbullah doesn't know the history of the area. In the early 80s Lebanese collaborators had signed on to a deal with Israel but the majority of Lebanese rejected it and Hizbullah wasn't even around back then. In 2006, most of the country was behind Hizbullah and it still is today and will always be. Your idea of the Lebanese people wanting to be friendly to Israel is wishful thinking; mostly everyone in Lebanon hates Israel for what it has repeatedly done to Lebanon and the Palestinians and they're not about to forget any time soon.

  • 36. 0 0
    No member of the IAF has ever experienced anti-aircraft fire
    • Natallie Durson
    • 17.01.10
    • 16:45

    Israel prefers that the IAF not encounter any defensive fire at all. During the course of the 2006 war, we saw IAF aircraft constantly over Beruit, bombing apartment blocks at will. Even a couple of SA2 missiles could expose that bunch of strutting greenhorns as members of the wet diaper brigade.

  • 35. 0 0
    #33 Zionist Forever
    • Chris Linthwaite
    • 17.01.10
    • 16:34

    Israel can put pressure on anyone to prevent the acquisition of defensive weapons systems that is true. But to threaten to go to war with Syria and subject itself to chemical and biological weapons and thus have to resort to nuclear weapons because Lebanon's defence forces are going to get a missile system first deployed in 1957? And which is easily and quickly neutralised using AGM-88 HARM missiles. Sorry doesn't wash, although I must admit life would be easier if Hezbollah would become a formal part of the Lebanese Armed Forces. Then Iran and Syria wouldn't need to go through the rigmorale of smuggling weapons.

  • 34. 0 0
    we are seeing the seeds of the next war this time wipe out syrian
    • ralph
    • 17.01.10
    • 16:24

    leadership at all levels

  • 33. 0 0
    6, 7, 11
    • zionist forever
    • 17.01.10
    • 16:06

    ClearCut - 6 Arming Hezbollah will increase the chances of war in Lebanon, thats how it always is in warfare and if Hezbollah feel confident or want a war for political reasons Israel will give it to them. The harder Hezbollah fight then the harder Israel fight & Israel has alot more firepower than Hezbollah could ever fantasize about having Chris - 7 The best defense is a good offense and Israel will pre empt to stop its enemies getting advanced weapons which may one day be used against Israel if a war broke out. Pre emptive strikes are Israels speciality -- 1956, 1967,1981 Chris Litnthwaite - 11 Israel never sold these weapons to Lebanon. The right Israel has to object to a country getting given defensive weapons is if it feels threatened a result. Israel is objecting to then transfer of the SA-2 to the terror group. If Israel is in a position of strengh and able to dictate the rules then it will. The real world isn't based whats fair its based on what you can get away with.

  • 32. 0 0
    The Lavochkin C-75 system
    • Mark Lincoln
    • 17.01.10
    • 15:52

    The Lavochkin C-75 system was a great threat in 1960 and even into the early 1970s. . . . Now it is not.

  • 31. 0 0
    #22 Miron
    • Chris Linthwaite
    • 17.01.10
    • 15:18

    We overthrew Saddam Hussein so that the Iraqi people could have the right to freedom of speech and freedom of choice, oh and to get hold of the oil. To turn around and then tell the Iraqi people what they can and cannot do is not what we went for war for. You might not like what the Iraqi people do with that freedom which 5000 American soldiers died for, but you cannot tell the Iraqi people what they can or cannot do.

  • 30. 0 0
    Johnboy - agreed but what is the recourse?
    • Eli
    • 17.01.10
    • 15:16

    Johnboy, I agree israel attacking Syria because it sold a weapon, that wasn't a WMD to Hezbollah is not a reason for imminenet existential threat but what is the recourse? And whatever you ish to israel as recourse understand than that Israel will expect it back 3 fold, 48, 67(Jordan which is just the biggest liability on earth such that no nation, even Arab ones want touch for all the tea on china), 73 yom kippur war? This is what is missing in Intl law, law which substantially punishes aggressive nation like treaty of Versailles, which say what you like, is nojustiicatoon for germany's genocide of Jews, something that cripples a nation for it having attacked another and as such cause death. They don't make war reperations like they used to and as such there is little deterrence if you have friends if you are a loner state than you have issues. And this in my opinion destroys the objectivity of intl law so find the recourse, israels looking for 3x +interest

  • 29. 0 0
    The operative word being 'May'
    • Chris Linthwaite
    • 17.01.10
    • 15:14

    In all probability the SA2 is in Lebanon already. It os known for certain that Indonesia has provided Rapier anti aircraft systems. Genie is already out of the bottle which is why Israel overflies Lebanon to try and get their aircraft illuminated by anti aircraft radar. Not that it makes any difference. The purchase of the S-400 by Saudi Arabia would mean that Saudi Arabia could shoot down any aircraft flying in Israeli airspace. And Saudi Arabia has close ties with Lebanon.

  • 28. 0 0
    "AA prohibited"
    • ol' Case
    • 17.01.10
    • 15:13

    One country is trying to preserve itself - Israel Most of its neighbors (and their sympathizers) will try to whatever and however long it takes to destroy it. It's that simple.

  • 27. 0 0
    What a Hypocrisy
    • Mark
    • 17.01.10
    • 15:05

    SA2 are designed to hit attacking fighter planes over own airplace. What logic, except intending to remain superior against your enemy is it? It is like the country with an upper-hand, which is USRAEL, is dictating others who only want to defend their skies what to do. Morally is it is at the bottom of dignity of Western countries.It is time for Westerners to see it this way.

  • 26. 0 0
    "Arming Hez. could spark Israel-Syria War
    • DT
    • 17.01.10
    • 14:49

    Along with our UAV's that we have sold to Turkey that will likely end spying on us.Brilliant bit of Israeli "strategic thinking "

  • 25. 0 0
    Hezbollah - a state wothin a state
    • Yonatan
    • 17.01.10
    • 14:48

    No quarrel exists between the sovereign State of Lebanon and Israel. Neither state has any plans to attack the other state. However, there is a third political and military entity existing betweem the State of Lebanon and the State of Israel. This the "State" of Hezbollah, with its own political leaders and its own army. This entity is not under the control of the State of Lebanon, but, instead, seeks to gain control of Lebanon. Moreover, the Hezbollah entity has aggressive designs against the State of Israel and Jews worldwide (remember the bombings in Buenos Aires?). It would seem to me that Israel and Lebanon should best join forces to put down this double threat - to Lebanon's sovereignty and to Israeli citizens and Jews worldwide.

  • 24. 0 0
    Hot air......A war with Syria is a war with Iran and lebanon too
    • Siad
    • 17.01.10
    • 14:41

    I think this try to scare syrians......it is only hot air,if Israel bombs Syria,Israel will be in a serious trouble.

  • 23. 0 0
    re: "and your problem with that is?"
    • Miron
    • 17.01.10
    • 14:28

    typical Anti - Semite, blind, hateful... Israel and Jewish history being erased... and the comment "It is what 5000 American soldiers and countless numbers of Iraqis died for." Makes for a great line for one of Chaplin's villains. Unfortunately for our country, the director of the show is having hard time finding a proxy in today's America. Perhaps result of the resounding success of our education system. No Chaplins allowed. And that is our collective trouble ( problem is a foreign word inherited from one of a Slavik languages ).

  • 22. 0 0
    Crossing a red line.
    • Johnboy
    • 17.01.10
    • 14:17

    "According to the official, Israel has warned Syria not to allow the transfer of the SA2 missiles into the hands of Hezbollah, and views the transfer of such missiles as the crossing of a red line. " Then Israel would - without question - be the aggressor, because such an attack would be a PREVENTATIVE action, and not a PRE-EMPTIVE action. Int'l law is very clear on that point: you can not attack merely to prevent someone gaining a CAPABILITY to harm you. Look up the "Caroline" case. Look up the "Nicaragua" case. An attack by Israel on Syria over this "threat" would be naked aggression, and nothing more.

  • 21. 0 0
    #13 Okan from Istambul
    • joaquim levi
    • 17.01.10
    • 14:16

    Maybe Turkey could teach Israel how to kill civilians. After all you killed millions of Armenians and kill Kurds, whose country you occupy, everyday.

  • 20. 0 0
    AA prohibited?why?
    • wael
    • 17.01.10
    • 14:10

    why is it prohibited for hizbolla to get aa missiles?israelly jet fighers are in our skies 24/7.isnt it our right to protect ourselves from israelly present or future aggression?

  • 19. 0 0
    Defensive weapons against Israel's violations
    • Kaska
    • 17.01.10
    • 13:54

    If ennemi planes flew everyday over your country I bet you would like to have some anti-aircraft missiles too. Enough with hypocracy, understand that other humans think like you. If you don't want them to get this kind of weapons then keep your planes in your own country.

  • 18. 0 0
    Turkey was goin g to attack Syria
    • Yosi
    • 17.01.10
    • 13:50

    Cause Syria harbored Pkk and its head..silly that Turkey is now very close to Syria and public blames Israel for arming of PKK...

  • 17. 0 0
    #15 Potobac
    • Chris Linthwaite
    • 17.01.10
    • 13:43

    Careful Ayalon might try to get you to sit in the naughty chair.

  • 16. 0 0
    Lebanon my self-defend too
    • FT
    • 17.01.10
    • 13:03

    Preemptiv wars of aggression are illegal

  • 15. 0 0
    observation
    • potobac
    • 17.01.10
    • 12:54

    Again the same refrain: we have no intention of attacking other countries, but we can't allow them to get purely defensive weapons that can't hurt us unless we do attack.

  • 14. 0 0
    Are teh US now officially deciding about Israel's wars?
    • christoph
    • 17.01.10
    • 12:50

    Apparently. But maybe such a cowardly statement is still better than having yourselves before the next "fait accompli" decided by your governments. People like Cipora Julianna Kohn are already preparing you for that case with exemplary anticipatory obedience.

  • 13. 0 0
    sa-2
    • Okan
    • 17.01.10
    • 12:46

    Come on! SA-2s are very old and huge missiles with a lot of units to operate and I do not think that it is something for Israel Air Force to worry. If Syria hands over the old SA-2 batteries in her inventory to Lebanon, it is just because they are obsolete. But it seems not very weird to sell/transfer arms from one country to an other (Syria to Lebanon). Despite all these facts, if this happens, it could be a good reason for Israel and good training opportunity for IDF to burn the south half of Lebanon and kill some thousands civilians as usual.

  • 12. 0 0
    #1 Yosemite
    • Chris Linthwaite
    • 17.01.10
    • 12:10

    and your problem with that is? The fact is iraq has the freedom to do whatever it wants inside it's borders. It is what 5000 American soldiers and countless numbers of Iraqis died for.

  • 11. 0 0
    If Israel sells these missiles to Lebanon
    • Chris Linthwaite
    • 17.01.10
    • 12:08

    then Israel cannot complain. Just what exactly gives Israel the right to object to a country being given defensive weapons?

  • 10. 0 0
    ## 5 syria can be peeled
    • dr.joji cherian
    • 17.01.10
    • 11:50

    away from iran. but america can not be peeled away from israel.

  • 9. 0 0
    Mafia Don
    • Myles
    • 17.01.10
    • 11:39

    Israel overflies Lebanon all the time so why the surprise that the Lebanese want to defend their air space by getting anti aircraft weaponry. Israel is behaving more and more like a mafia don

  • 8. 0 0
    Not so ClearCut
    • Urani Diot
    • 17.01.10
    • 11:37

    "as israel prefers to fight unarmed opponents." historical evidence does not support your claim. Check you "War in the Middle East" history books. What you may be trying to emphasise is the non-conventional warfare which has been supported by nations who were badly defeated in the more conventional wars.

  • 7. 0 0
    precarious situation
    • chris
    • 17.01.10
    • 11:26

    If Israel's situation is really so precarious that it feels justified in threatening to bomb the capital of a neighbor state to prevent the delivery of one particular kind of weapon, then who can seriously believe that Israel has a long-term future? Either it is right in feeling that this weapon will upset the balance of forces, in which case the balance is very close to the danger point, or it is wrong, in which case it is itself being too aggressive. This is also not a good sign for a stable future. Why does Israel not aim for a mutually acceptable solution in the area? Or maybe I should wait for the next government to be elected...

  • 6. 0 0
    arming hesballa will prevent war in lebanon
    • ClearCut
    • 17.01.10
    • 11:10

    as israel prefers to fight unarmed opponents.

  • 5. 0 0
    Syria is a terror state
    • Cipora Julianna Kohn
    • 17.01.10
    • 11:01

    those in the west who deluded themselves thinking that syria could be turned into a western ally have proven to be fools. syria cannot be peeled away from iran.

  • 4. 0 0
    The unnamed American official strikes again
    • Colin Wright
    • 17.01.10
    • 10:43

    ...last seen informing all that the Obama administration had agreed that there didn't have to be a settlement freeze.

  • 3. 0 0
    Call the bluff
    • Colin Wright
    • 17.01.10
    • 10:39

    ...and the remark isn't addressed to Israel.

  • 2. 0 0
    Wow
    • Kalil
    • 17.01.10
    • 10:03

    They already stole the Iraqi Jews residences, possessions and all their wealth. They can get stuffed.

  • 1. 0 0
    Iraq...
    • Yosemite
    • 17.01.10
    • 09:02

    is removing all the Hebrew writing from the walls of the Tomb of the Prophet Ezekiel.