Goldstone to attend grandson's bar mitzvah as Zionist groups end feud

I doubt if the Bar Mitzvah boy - Goldstones grandson would want his grandfatgher there! A Barmitzvah is a jewish ceromony and Richard Goldstone has cut all ties with the Jewish people by his one sided malicious and corrupt report. He is a traitor and should be treated as one.

No democracy would allow him near a case with those issues. Says a lot about Tikkun.

Undergrounds in Europe weren't going around attacking civilians, they went after MILITARY TARGETS Israel didn't flout the law, the Arabs attacked FIRST, Jews defended themselves from the attacks I've already posted the link to most of the Arab attacks, if you ask, I'll post it again This time study it!!!

I know from your posts YOU can't be impartial on the subject of Israel - to you criticism of Israel is by definition invalid - but isn't it possible another person could have an opinion about Israel and still be capable of putting that aside while dealing with a report on Israel? It is not prudent to assume everyone has your flaws.

to nr. 5- truthseeker, i donot agree with you. richard goldstone and his un-commission made an impartial, neutral, interestless, undependant and unbiased investigation in gaza. the term self-hating jew is unjustely used to jews critical of the israeli government and to zionism. the term self-hating jew is first used by theodor lessing in his book: der juedischer selbsthass from 1930 in germany.

then claiming to be impartial AFTER writing a letter with known anti Israel activists?

"Goldstone`s job was to find out if Israel and Hamas had a case to answer, vis-a-vis war crimes, not to make a definitive judgment on their guilt." (BDS) "Not to make a definitive judgment indeed.".. What a SHAM! What can be more definitive than what he did? All the world and you too, on this site, have already condemned the "Zionists", long ago, and absolutely finally. It became fact - "the killers of children"....etc. Another thing: Just as in your "That makes you a Zionist tool and a hypocrite", I have heard from your ilk, time and again, the same word - "Hypocrites". But that describes precisely YOU. It's always like that...

I had no idea that so many Israelis had immigrated from Mississippi.

As a matter of fact, I think you are completely right - the other side should adhere to the norms of international conduct. However, I wonder if you felt the same way about the undergrounds in France and Poland during WWII (or Jewish forces in Palestine before 1948). When fighting against overwhelming force sometimes the choice is either to use such tactics or give up entirely. I have never said Israel should sit back and take it, nor do I believe that to be the case. I do believe that when Israel decided to flout the law it lost the right to complain when others do so also.

It's high time you told the other side that they had to "Adhere to the norms International Conduct" Israel isn't going to fight with it's hand tied behind it's back, just because you would like to see it that way The other side has attacked Israel thousands of times, yet, you insist that Israel should just sit back and take it http://lindasog.com/public/terrorvictims.htm

There has never been any army at war but that some of its soldiers did things for which they were punished, or should have been punished; stating otherwise indicates either extreme foolishness or head in the sand deviousness. Even if the IDF is the purest army ever, to deny that things were done which the high command and the government condoned, even if only by averting their eyes, is to undermine any justification the action might have had. n.b. My kibbutz sits 2.7 kms. from the Gaza border. We were the victim, (much, much less so than Sde Rot), of numerous Qassam rocket attacks. None the-less, the question remains open, could there be any possible justification for the deaths of so many innocent Palestinian civilians?

What a post with "Zionist" all over the place! Obviously all Israelis are "Zionists" for you. And of course you condemned the "crimes" committed by Israel as decreed by Goldstone. OK. Had you read anything by me during the last 2 years or so, you would have found not only that I am not a "rightist", but that I dislike profoundly what Netanyahu and his partners are doing. As about my "Zionism" I can only laugh! Like about Monty Python... Which, however shows what YOU are. A pitiful, hateful, little liar. And the same regarding your approach about Israel!

You think I am going to read your books of eulogy about Goldstone? Sorry. I read my dear Esther about it and that's enough for me. You are not going to become a "dear"... It would have been interesting for you to read the comments of The Economist at the time of the Godstone report... By the way, have you read the response of Hamas to the UN? OK, Israel's response was not sufficient, but theirs inexistent. Zero is always the best! Or minus, like you.

That the IDF has a system of checks and balances and faces enemies on several frontiers in no way affects the legitimacy of any actions it takes. Israel is still bound to adhere to the norms of international conduct. An unfortunate aspect of zionism is that many of its adherents believe Israel being a Jewish nation absolves it of the obligation to observe the law. Jews are subject to the same laws as anyone else, and are entitled to nothing more than Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, or people of any other religion. No less, no more.

Actually I didn't already condemn Israel (although even a stone zionist like you has to admit Israel committed at least SOME crimes during its incursion into Gaza). What I was commenting on was the standard tactic of many zionists on this board of trying to rebut charges made against Israel by pointing out misdeeds of other nations or of Muslims. What anyone else does in no way affects the legitimacy of what Israel does. If an action is wrong, it is wrong even if twenty other nations do the same thing.

and one of the finest organizations. it has a system of checks and balances and will correct itself when mistakes are made. it also faces enemies on several frontiers who are determined to destroy the State of Israel. Certainly the Honorable Judge Goldstone knows this. He must, he has to as someone who supports Israel's right to exist... no? So maybe he just didn't mention this in his report because it is all to obvious and he wanted to maintain his even handedness and decency. the vintage attributes that will make his bar mitzvah boy grandson eternally proud. or maybe on the other hand Alan Dershowitz was right about him?

It's painting ONLY those whose viewpoints and attitudes the poster has assumed to make his statement against the same. It's not an anti-Semitic statement; it's a statement against ethnocentric fanaticism, delusions of superiority, and the racist and fascist values they foster. How odd that you would miss(or maybe ignore), the clear distinction that's being made between Jews who think like that and those who do not. Is it possibly because the sting of his satirical comments has hit home?

Just because Israel didn't want to cooperate? Imagine where justice would be if ALL investigations were abandoned whenever one of their subjects refused to cooperate. Would justice even exist if that were the case? What the Goldstone report concluded is that there was ample evidence to indicate that war crimes had indeed taken place, and it called upon Israel to conduct an independent investigation into those incidents. Goldstone's disclaimer merely reflects the fact that Israel's cooperation may have alleviated the damning implications of their occurance by providing ITS inputs on the circumstances behind them. Israel refused to do that, just as it is refusing to conduct an independent investigation into those incidents; both of which can be perceived as a preference to subvert the truth. The Goldstone report is far LESS damaging to Israel than its own refusal to cooperate with it, acknowledge its credibility, and to implement its recommendations. You are blaming Goldstone's integrity and commitment to the ideals of justice for Israel's lack of the same. Israel consistently hides behind its claim that the U.N. perspective towards it is biased. But what it it fails to understand is that the world can discern between its "bias" and the "facts" that provide for its unfavorable attitude toward Israel. And its "bias" does NOT nullify those facts. This is why Israel has been strongly urged to comply with the report's recommendations of an independent inquiry even by the countries who did not officially endorse it; a clear indication that their objections are to the U.N. "bias", and not necessarily to the findings outlined in the Goldstone report. Real justice doesn't pick and choose when to close it's eyes, S. Surely you haven't been in Israel long enough to be completely comfortable with that?

Rory already answered you in part. His point is that "conclusions were drawn". Now! And as I said, regardless of your "US (dubious) law", NOBODY is waiting for any further judgement (except to enjoy jailing Israelis)... No sir! that was not a simple recitation of charges. Proof is your conclusion "do things done elsewhere excuse crimes by Israel?" Which, and how many crimes mister?You have already condemned Israel! Stop your falsehoods!

I have served a number of times on grand juries. As I understood it, our task was not to determine guilt or innocence, but rather to see if the evidence seemed serious enough to warrant the person going on trial. There are grand juries which are specifically chosen, however, to do just the same thing Goldstone did; investigate a situation and make a reports of their findings for further action by someone else.

is an eulogy for many Jewish families who suffered losses of loved ones during 10 year rocket bombardment of their homes from Gaza. You were not there when this happened, and you lamped up their losses into a "report". Well... as we respect your right to enjoy your son right of passage into adulthood so shell you respect our right to present our report, the one you missed to mention in yours. You have caused a great suffering to our nation, innocent in her heart. Now is the time to hear what you have done. There will be no occasion while you are alive when the dead whom you forsaken and traded in for your mantia and post will not visit you in the image of people who remember them. Your curse is kept out of the UN doors. Your check smells of good perfume, so perfect and full of numbers before the decimal point, one can forget all the burdens of life. But this is not UN. This is our synagogue. Dress up and meet the community you approved killing out.

Just because Israel didn't want to cooperate? Imagine where justice would be if ALL investigations were abandoned whenever one of their subjects refused to cooperate. Would justice even exist if that were the case? What the Goldstone report concluded is that there was ample evidence to indicate that war crimes had indeed taken place, and it called upon Israel to conduct an independent investigation into those incidents. Goldstone's disclaimer merely reflects the fact that Israel's cooperation may have alleviated the damning implications of their occurance by providing ITS inputs on the circumstances behind them. Israel refused to do that, just as it is refusing to conduct an independent investigation into those incidents; both of which can be perceived as a preference to subvert the truth. The Goldstone report is far LESS damaging to Israel than its own refusal to cooperate with it, acknowledge its credibility, and to implement its recommendations. You are blaming Goldstone's integrity and commitment to the ideals of justice for Israel's lack of the same. Israel consistently hides behind its claim that the U.N. perspective towards it is biased. But what it it fails to understand is that the world can discern between its "bias" and the "facts" that provide for its unfavorable attitude toward Israel. And its "bias" does NOT nullify those facts. This is why Israel has been strongly urged to comply with the report's recommendations of an independent inquiry even by the countries who did not officially endorse it; a clear indication that their objections are to the U.N. "bias", and not necessarily to the findings outlined in the Goldstone report. Real justice doesn't pick and choose when to close it's eyes, S. Surely you haven't been in Israel long enough to be completely comfortable with that?

Just because Israel didn't want to cooperate? Imagine where justice would be if ALL investigations were abandoned whenever one of their subjects refused to cooperate. Would justice even exist if that were the case? What the Goldstone report concluded is that there was ample evidence to indicate that war crimes had indeed taken place, and it called upon Israel to conduct an independent investigation into those incidents. Goldstone's disclaimer merely reflects the fact that Israel's cooperation may have alleviated the damning implications of their occurance by providing ITS inputs on the circumstances behind them. Israel refused to do that, just as it is refusing to conduct an independent investigation into those incidents; both of which can be perceived as a preference to subvert the truth. The Goldstone report is far LESS damaging to Israel than its own refusal to cooperate with it, acknowledge its credibility, and to implement its recommendations. You are blaming Goldstone's integrity and commitment to the ideals of justice for Israel's lack of the same. Israel consistently hides behind its claim that the U.N. perspective towards it is biased. But what it it fails to understand is that the world can discern between its "bias" and the "facts" that provide for its unfavorable attitude toward Israel. And its "bias" does NOT nullify those facts. This is why Israel has been strongly urged to comply with the report's recommendations of an independent inquiry even by the countries who did not officially endorse it; a clear indication that their objections are to the U.N. "bias", and not necessarily to the findings outlined in the Goldstone report. Real justice doesn't pick and choose when to close it's eyes, S. Surely you haven't been in Israel long enough to be completely comfortable with that?

Don't be bitter, Jews does not mean zionist.

to see granson's ceremony of maturity. Mr. Goldstone might be a bad person, but his right to see grandson in a traditional ceremony is not ours to cull. The offended parties however should not be culled either, nor shell Israelis who suffered from rocket bombardment for the past 10 years be kept hidded. They suffered more than fair share to be subjected to frog marching, shell they feel compelled to come and express their point of view, given the occasion. If we give Mr. Goldstone rights utmost respect, as a community of intelligent people, he should have no less respect to the community in return. I urge all parties to remain within bounds of intelligent discussion.

Since the initial objection to his attending came from members of the congregation, not the "Zionists", I wonder if this is going to be a private family party, not a community event. As a former congregation leader, my understanding is that the Bar Mitsvah was to celebrate a child's becoming an adult and taking on responsibilities for his own actions, in front of the community in which he lived. It will be interesting to see how many of the regular members of the synagogue are actually present.

Goldstone should be allowed to attend his grandson's bar mitzvah. But he should also realize the incredible danger he put the Jewish people in.

Please give an example of the kind of report you are referring to. I believe the Goldstone report was not intended as just a recitation of various charges. It was charted to be an impartial investiagion with conclusions drawn

i have no clue what america you are in but in the real america everything in a courtroom is either supported by fact or conjecture and testimony by unsubstantiated witnesses doesn't count for squat. In other words, the heresay that goldstone used to drawn conclusions would never be heard in any credible courtroom, which makes him a biased corrupt phony who used an opportunity to promote his own self interest by hurting israel's international standing .. essentially fame at any cost. go read his worthless report, who cares ... the facts in gaza speak for themselves, hamas started an urban war and paid the price. the blockade is a thank you for kiddinapping shalit ... they are getting off easy.

Here in the US such a report is part of our system of justice. A group of people hear accounts of what happened and make a report of the charges made. This is referred to a jury or some other body for their deliberation. No corroboration is made or even needed, since it is not a judicial finding, but just (as Goldstone) a synopsis of the charges made for someone else to consider. As to the events you mention in other countries, do things done elsewhere excuse crimes by Israel?

FRankly, I think Goldstone should be provided with a body-guard. The tsunami of orchestrated hate propaganda unleashed against him is more than enough to "inspire" a meshugger to attack what he has been taught is a the "moser". David

Joe - if Goldstone had not begged and begged Israel to present its case you may have a teeny tiny point. But Israel refused and then screams bloody murder - unleashing a torrent of lashon hara against a most honourable man. THAT, as you may know, Joe, is one of the worst infraction of the Jewish value system. David

to let a grand father attend the mitzvah of his grandson!!! BTW, How can a political organisation impose who should attend a family event and who should not? Is this a brotherhood secret organisation to enslave its members? Very strange things are going on in ZOA

and afterwards a Brit Milah should be demonstrated, Goldsone's garon would be a suitable site

Goldstone's job was to find out if Israel and Hamas had a case to answer, vis-a-vis war crimes, not to make a definitive judgement on their guilt. Israel refused to cooperate with the investigation in order to smother it. You complain that Goldstone should have given in to Israel's tactics and given up. That makes you a Zionist tool and a hypocrite.

...He himself said: "he made clear that his charges were not substantiated, that had Israel been willing to cooperate with his UN sponsored investigation they might well have helped him eliminate elements of the report that were not true according to Israeli information." Interesting! A report without corroboration? He should have insisted to get info from Israel in order to do a correct job, or no job! Yes, spend time and effort to get it! Yet, he went out with it, shamelessly, with one big, one sided report, knowing what liars Hamas are...and also knowing how biased the UN is, just by looking at destroyed houses and hurt civilians after a dirty war! Phuyah! As this is the only event of this kind in the world!! Look at Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalian wars and what THIS does to civilians!!!!

I totally agree with you. When Jews forget the suffering of other nations and peoples, when we deny others the same rights we claim for ourselves, when we refuse to recognize that God created all of us in his image.....then ideed we endanger our very existence as a people. In this way I agree with you that by Judge Goldstone standing up for the best Jewish ethical values, like the prophets of old, he has done us a great service. I am glad to see that you support his work.

this turn in events is a disappointment and violates the round world theory .. goldstone is a traitor who wnet out of his way to huirt Israel and I have read his report and know what it says .. forcing him to miss the bar mitzvah was a small proce to pay for his betrayal of the jewish people. the rabbis who gave an award is another fool who is endagering jews and israels ... we saw what appeasement did in germany, not some liberal sitting in LA sipping lattes is givng out awards to traitors and we wonder why Jews have so many problems. Vile and disgusting is the only response to this mess.

But if a bunch of people who have nothing more than a religious claim to authority attempted such a divisive and invasive act in my family, I wouldn't have taken it as lightly and politely as Richard Goldstone. Especially, after having seen how Alan Dershowits, we all know his stance on Goldstone, was also criticised here on the talkback pages for his critical letter about censorship in Israel. I wonder whether, when it comes to Israel, there is any criticism which will be considered? Have a great one, Richard, for you and your family, as we say in South Africa, sterkte boet!

Anti-Semitism makes you stupid

Tikun and Goldstone deserve each other.And the make believe 'Rabbi'Lerner,should stop sticking his nose into Israel's affairs.

It is amusing that a person who says that anyone who disagrees with any Israeli action does so out of animus criticize another person for making uncorroborated and unverified accusations. Hypocrisy comes to mind,

To be honored by REAL Jews who place the values of their faith and their moral principles above blind support and allegiance of Zionist goals. And knowing that there are others like himself, who refuse to sell their soul, will surely to ease the burden placed upon him by those who HAVE. I am happy for you, Judge Goldstone.

i tried to find someone in Tikkun to mend the broken sink in the clinic of "hutzot mall", you know the mall in Ashkelon that was hit by a proper "grad" rocket; after taht they made a tikkun but the work was/is really "drek", so i thought perhaps Lerner feom the Tikkun can make a proper tikkun so poeple here will have good sink to wash their hands, they really deserve it after they fixed in this clinic the prostate of so many ashkeloni, but Lerner was busy to bring tikkun elsewhere and he has no time for a tikkun of something that raelly needs Tikkun; maybe next time when he will be less busy; and b.t.w., the Tikkun between Goldstone and Lerner reminds me of kaddaffi handing honors to abu-amar (arafat) for services to humanity as freedom fighter, but what do i say, the last one was not a regular Tikkun it was the big bang that reached the "maalot elyonot" of the "Pardes" itself, shabat shalom

...He himself said: "he made clear that his charges were not substantiated, that had Israel been willing to cooperate with his UN sponsored investigation they might well have helped him eliminate elements of the report that were not true according to Israeli information." Interesting! A report without corroboration? He should have insisted to get info from Israel in order to do a correct job, or no job! Yes, spend time and effort to get it! Yet, he went out with it, shamelessly, with one big, one sided report, knowing what liars Hamas are...and also knowing how biased the UN is, just by looking at destroyed houses and hurt civilians after a dirty war! Phuyah! As this is the only event of this kind in the world!! Look at Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalian wars and what THIS does to civilians!!!!

Reading older articles about Judge Goldstone his grandchildren are very important to him. Its a shame that these people had to be embarrassed worldwide before they realized the error of their ways in blackmailing this man and interfering in a special event such as this.

Neither are the incidents that HAVE been corroborated, Joe. Nor is Israel's obvious cover-up and refusal to allow an independent inquiry into the rest; even from WITHIN Israel!

Good to see that common decency and sense are still alive and well. What welcome news in all the vitriol and personal attacks so often seen in talkback on anyone daring to get to the root of matters in Israel and in general.

To be honored by REAL Jews who place the values of their faith and their moral principles above blind support and allegiance of Zionist goals. And knowing that there are others like himself, who refuse to sell their soul, will surely to ease the burden placed upon him by those who HAVE. I am happy for you, Judge Goldstone.

The Jews I grew up with: Kind, Intelligent, Humble, Fearless!

Who says Roman Catholics have a monopoly on self-flagellation? Or, "there's one born every minute." I can't decide which is more appropriate here.

congratulations to tikkun for having the guts to do this.

Need I say anymore????

amazing. still some integrity in the jewish galaxy.

Maybe some of its readers will realize just how misguided the self-described "peace community" leaders are.

Goldstone's report criticized both Israel and Hamas. In that respect it did uphold Jewish values of honesty and fairness. Partisans took what they wanted from his report and used it to flog their opponents rather than as a guide to correct current abuses by both sides. This is no fault of Goldstone's and is the real reason we are at stalemate.

As I recall from my reading of Torah, Jewish legal values are very specific about how testimony is to be regarded. Making statements without proof cannot be taken as the truth by the judges. Since the Goldstone report was mostly based on statements by Arabs (anyone recall the Jenin massacre story?) without any proof, it should not have given so much weight to those statements.

How naive to think such actions are part of a "peace community." Nobody wants true peace more than Israel, but continually vilifying Israel and lauding such one-sided myopic men as Goldstone simply plays into the hands of those who seek her destruction. Shame.

Compare this man's integrity to those in power in Israel now - thieves, fraudsters and abusers of the public trust.

Rabbi Lerner, Sir, Isn't time you took your meds and retired? Your values have declined terribly. Take a rest and retire. As for the LIBS and their stupid backing for this egotist take a long walk off a short pier.

Nice to see this happen. He has taken a lot of unwarranted criticism.

"Rabbi" Michael Lerner would not know a Jewish Value if he fell over one. . I am waiting for Goldstone to issue reports on SYria for its massacre in Hama in 1982, its massacres in Lebanon, on Jordans massacre of Palestinians in 1970, of Egypts use of poison gas in the yemen civil war. of Iraq's use of poison gas in the Iran-Iraq war, and the list goes on and on and on.....

It?s easy for you to criticize Israel, nobody call you a child of apes and monkeys. Nobody sends rockets on your sleeping children. Come live with Arabs then we'll see what you'll say. Even son of Hamas leader escaped Gaza and converted to Cristianity.If you live in Europe just wait a little longer Arabs soon will be rule over you.

Seems like these Tikkun people are using the old anti-semitic trick of Israel bashing to endear themselves to the gentile anti-semits that otherwise despise them. Good tactics: Ahmadi-najad also uses it to be become the idol of the Arab riff-raff. You are in a good company, Tikkun!

Tikkun wouldn't know what a Jewish value was if they tripped over it in the street.

Feel very great that his report got big recongnisation. Need to implement those report in to action as well.

The good Judge needed a boost. For this is a man of integrity and honor.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

...He himself said: "he made clear that his charges were not substantiated, that had Israel been willing to cooperate with his UN sponsored investigation they might well have helped him eliminate elements of the report that were not true according to Israeli information." Interesting! A report without corroboration? And it went out nevertheless? No one is ashamed of that? Any peasant knows that one has to hear also "the other side" otherwise its useless! He should have insisted to do a correct job, or no job!

Answer: Yes, absolutely. Good Shabbos!

Michael Lerner has many insightful things to say, but sometimes his judgment is cockeyed. In 2000, Tikkun (which means Michael Lerner) essentially endorsed Ralph Nader siphoning votes away from Al Gore in Florida and New Hampshire. There were many links in the chain that led to Bush's 2000 "election", but it's likely that but for Lerner, Gore would have been President and the world would be a much better place. Looks like Lerner is doing it again. He prefers to make himself feel good adhering to his ideals rather than take responsibilty for the practical consequences of his acts.

Tikkun is anything but a Jewish magazine and Rabbi Lerner is for many years an instrument of the American Left and not representing anything Jewish. Lerner and Goldstone are the right pair and Tikkun is nothing but the mouthpiece of both and their friends.

Goldstone emulates the very Jewish values that are dear to me, namely truth and justice. He has been a beacon of truth and an advocate for justice. However Israeli leadership and its blind supporters in the USA have created a whirlwind of bitterness, hate and deceit. Israel falls far short of the Jewish state we had all hoped for at one time.

...that the overwhelming majority of Reform Jews are now totally against Obama, Goldstone, the UN and anyone else who still thinks they have a legitimate gripe against Israel. Every Jew of every stripe is now reconsidering what they've believed over the past 20 years. From here on, it's just a question of getting Jews everywhere to come to a consensus on what should be done. If necessary, we should all consider aliyah. Israel is all we have left. One country after another is turning on Israel, thanks to the efforts of Islamic and left-wing extremists. It will only get worse, so be prepared to make some tough decisions.

Tikkun is NOT a Jewish Magazine. It has Jewish writers etc but doesn't reflect mainstream American Jewish thought. It is truly Michael Lerner's (former '60s student radical) magazine rather than a "Jewish" magazine. Far more devious is "Jewish Voice for Peace" which apears to have a predominantly non-Jewish membership,(including members of the International Solidarity Movement)with a fews Jews in highly visible public positions.

Only hate-filled zealots smear his Honorable name. Go to Hell with your crap. Salaam/Shalom

The question is sincere. I know of Christian values and some of the values of Mohamed, but Jewish values are nothing that I know of. Can someone explain? The other thing: Goldstone never said that all of the things he investigated are totally true, that is why he is calling on independent investigations carried out by Israel (and Hamas).

"Goldstone`s report is full of uncorroborated and unverified accusations by the Pals. Goldstone himself admits this. Failing to check and verify means that lots of phony claims are included in Goldstone`s report, meaning that there is a good chance there is false witness behind the accusations. That ain`t Jewish in the slightest." Yes and only because you say it is. This man who has dealt with atrocities before knows nothing about it, but you, you on the other hand are a being of higher enlightenment. Perhaps one day he will attain your stature and you may be his mentor. One day maybe. Then you woke up from your dream and realized you were just in the haze of dreamland. Welcome back to reality.

I take it your message is in jest. If so, you are so right: any little hint of criticism is anti-semitic, even from those of us who applauded Israel's "Statehood," that is before the occupation and settlements. If the attitude of most of the posters in these sites is any indication of the general attitude of Israelis in general, Israel is in for perpetual war and the "Zionist Project" is doomed. Hubris abounds. Nemesis awaits.

His presence in shul will distract others from the task at hand. The good, if any, that may come from his report will always be overshadowed by the damage he has caused to the Jewish people. Better he stays away.

got an AWARD for his gutsy REPORT. He is right to report that there were WAR CRIMES by the Israelis and Hamas, during the GAZAwar. That is the TRUTH. It is better for him, to be critisized by few hundreds than by the WHOLE world communities. (Billions), who were witnessing on TVs, every crime committed, such as school, Mosques, hospitals being bombarded. This is the TRUTH. Israel will learn that one cannot hide everything,(WHITE PHOSFOROUS BOMBS) if even Journalists-Observers were not allowed in the territory, for the Cast LEAD War-Campaigned May GOD Bless you SIR-cousin Mr Goldstone, do enjoy your well deserve award, I'm sure that from now on there will be lots who will speak the truth as they it.Keep up your good works.

The first time that the term Tikkun is used in Jewish tradition is in the prayer that closes the service. "To establish a world where the Almighty reigns, and . . ." The problem with Tikkun, and Mr. Lerner, and his agenda is that they fail to understand that the establishment of the a world like that is the result of hard work on our inner selves. Once we have that fixed, then we can go out do something. Rushing out into the real world imagining you have all the answers, as Goldstone, Lerner, and many of the laureates of the prize he has just recieved is jumping the gun a little. As we saw with Goldstone, he leaped forward, fell down, and admitted that his information might have been biased. Any God-Fearing man who was confronted with evidence that might be "incorrect" would have stepped back and told Mr. Lerner, no thanks, but I made some mistakes along the way--he didn't!

Despite what may have been reported, Goldstone and his family were not 'banned' from attending the barmitzvah but took the decision upon themselves for Goldstone not to attend, after receiving info reagrding potential protests should he have decided to attend. The decision was taken, presumably, to avoid embarassment to his grandchild, but he was not banned from attending the ceremony.

"PROGRESSIVE" is a rather nasty title to carry in the USA Progressive OBAMA shoved Obamacare down our throats, took over major auto companies and is now trying to take over the Banking Industry & Wallstreet

Come on, please, let's be serious. Tikun is a magazine that basically sees Jewish values as those that are currently espoused in the Western culture, not that of Israel and not that of the Torah. Birds of a feather flock together. They support him because they do not support Israel!

When I read Goldstone's report, I'm pretty sure his conclusions were that BOTH sides had committed crimes...and judging from news reports since then, he was right. Instead of investigating the facts, and punishing the perpetrators...denying even the possibility of an IDF misdeed became the preferred method of damage control. If I'm reading this all wrong, and Goldstone had an agenda and was out to "get" Israel, please let me know.

So predictable! Michael Lerner, with his "questionable" rabbinic ordination, gives his imprimateur to Bar Kamsa Goldstone. What next, Michael? Give Goldstone "smicha?" 'Best ethical" indeed!

As an American Jew, I would welocme Goldstone grandson being Bar Mitzvahed in the US but would oppose his Grandfather from attending. We dont need such Jews in the US. Tikkum does not speak for me. Goldstones presence would mar any Bar Mitvah in my opinion. I was Bar Mitvahed a long time ago in an orthodox synagogue and I know I would not want him.

... his conclusion that IDF destroyed the Gaza flour mill with intent of starving the population, while every day during Cast Lead, a convoy of trucks delivered far more flour than the mill could ever produce. This is only one of dozens of contradictions that exposes Goldstone's report as unworthy of serious consideration, much less "honor".

Not the same. He should be invited everywhere and asked to repeat his caveats to his own report. Then, give him the Israel Prize. Philosopher got it last year and he wants the '48 borders "back."

Nobody banned Goldstone from participating in his grandson's bar mitzvah.He just has chickend out from facing opponents, as he did before, for example refusing open debate with Alan Dershowitz.Not very good example for his barmitzva boy. Honoroble judge should know, that taking sides in politics brings not only prizes and honorable doctorats.

Michael Lerner, the unscrupulous, self-promoting editor of the barely read Tikkun Magazine has found a kindred spirit in Justice Goldstone. Both have little regard for honesty and justice. Lerner was embarrassed years ago when he repeatedly claimed to be influential for first lady Hillary Clinton and she finally set the record straight (something to the effect of "This guy keeps calling himself my guru and I don't even know who he is"). I wonder who will be invited to the awards ceremony?

Another distortion of truth by progressives. If given a choice to be citizens of Israel or new Palestinian state run by the PLO, I wonder how the "poorly treated Palestinians by Israel" would respond.

He is the best candidate for the next Nobel Prize. Chapeau!

I think the only logical way to find out, the truth about the values of Goldstone, is to actually start an honest investigation by independent parties from the international community. Anyone against? Let's find out about the truth once and for all, and put this behind us?

israels shame is that it will not hear the words of just and good people like mr goldstone.when will israel get back to the high world standing it had prior to 1967.instead of being viewed as it is now,amongst the lowest

One can't help but recall the woman from Sderot who testified before Goldstone and his band of Morons. She questioned Goldstone on vital matters related to her and her neighbors in Sderot. Goldstone either fluffed it off or was unable to answer her concerns. His work was a one-sided hatchet job. Goldstone has done irreparable damage to the Jewish people as a whole. The enemies of Israel were given a smoking gun, truth or lies make no difference. One can validly argue that Cast Lead was fought very humanely, with advance warning of attack given to innocent civilians in Gaza. Did the Hamas thugs ever warn Sderot of imminent attack, Goldstone ?? We know the answer. Goldstone deserves worse, but surely should be ostracized in every way. His damage is irreversible.

Sometimes the irony is the best way to make people's see their one-sided views. I am only afraid that -again- some are not able to see any irony but take your comments "as a reality" -like their same kind of opinions.

Israel is the most widely criticized country in the world. Not a day goes by that I do not read a story by another country's journalist finding something to complain about.

It makes me happy. Congratulation, Mr. Goldstone! Go on saying the truth!

Thousands of phone calls made and leaflets divided to warn the Gazans beforehand of the coming attacks and giving them time to find cover, are a good example of Jewish values, which pursue to protect life. PS.: Does Goldstone mention this IDF chivalry in his report?

Limeys hanged him ,didn't they ?

israels shame is that it has lost the moral human values that people like mr goldstone have.when will israel,if ever,if its not already to late,get back the high world standing it once had prior to 1967.instead of being like it is now,viewed amongst the lowest

Goldstone was not barred from his grandson's Bar Mitzvah - what happened was that a protest was scheduled outside the synagogue that day and Goldstone agreed not to attend so as not to spoil the boy's special event. I happen to feel that a protest outside a religious event was ill advised as it sets a dangerous precedent, but this was misrepresented as a ban. Tikkun is a one man affair, and Mr. Lerner has his own knee-jerk reaction to Goldstone. I hardly think it newsworthy. What would be newsworthy is if Mr. Lerner had read the IDF response to Goldstone and admitted that the Goldstone report was riddled with falsehoods and unsubstantiated innuendos. It would certainly be news if Ha-aretz did so as well.

goldstone is a traitor and should be treated as one. whoa is the temple that will host this piece of garbage.goldstone who cant even say why israel defended itself in the first place. goldstone go away we dont want you and you will meet resistance like you never imagined before.

racist demand that Jews, only because they are Jewish, may not reside in certain villages, towns and even city neighborhoods of their own capital city. This is of course a form of racism, anti-Jewish racism, but this is "Tikun's " view of how Jews should bow down to non-Jews who have etched on their heart to ensure the annihilation of Jewish existence from the Jewish homeland, including all 5.5 million Jews there and the erasing of all traces of Jewish civilization of which Israel is its cradle.

the truly still does represent Jewish values. In most circles what has been the pride of Judaism has been overshadowed by the cloud of ideological racism, tribalism, contempt for the other, what Professor Marc Ellis calls: Constantinian Judaism.

This paragraph: Goldstone "made clear that his charges were not substantiated, that had Israel been willing to cooperate with his UN sponsored investigation they might well have helped him eliminate elements of the report that were not true according to Israeli information." But this is in what he condemns Israel! And together with him the whole world...including Esther

Time to cancel my subscription to Tikkun.

Even as we suffer under the most right-wing, nationalistic government in our history, it is a source of some hope that Goldstone has been honored in this way. Such an honor for such a man goes to show that there are significant numbers of Jews around the world who put concern for humanity above the narrow and short-term interests of tribe.

One word. Confused Idiots

new grandson to bar mitzvah.

Well done Mr Goldstone you throughly deserve this award and the deepest and highest respect goes out from our Muslim, Jewish and Christian friends out here in the Uk. As for the enraged and some what delussional people that have also made comments on this page. I would say if the Israeli government had nothing to hide and these claims of brutality and war crimes are unjustified why does the Israeli refuse to carry out credible investigations to prove otherwise. This is not about attcking the jews as many of my friends are jews and so are the poople giving this award. This is about justice and sanity, decency and humanity. And by condeming the Goldstone report which is what a lot of zionists and their symathizers are doing they are proving to the world that they are racist and feel they can carry on with this policy with impunity. But the age of enlightenment is here and with 24 hour news reports and live TV the world saw the horrors of Cast lead and first hand accounts from the UN

Nothing new here.

your goverment refuse to talk to him!! what does israel hide?? He try many time to have the israel goverment allow him to speak to the israeli side with no avail!! this tell me how corrupted your country is!

It's about time someone honored this wonderful man who believes in justice! Thank you Tikkun!

Goldstone was brave enough and honest enough to report on what he found in Gaza. The people who hate him for this mostly don't know what he actually wrote, but simply hate him because the report was critical of Israel and their soldiers. He asked that Israel investigate the claims - what on earth is wrong with that?. That they refused means that either these incident did happen and Israel didn't want to admit it, or the Israelis didn't want to find out in case the report was true. Either way, Goldstone is a great, unbiased man and would not simply make up such things. The haters should hide their heads in shame. That some SA Jews should mess up a child's bar mitzvah over this shows just how low these people will stoop. It's great men like Goldstone that shine a light on the Jewish faith and he deserves more accolades.

Goldstone is a heroe. API news flash: Avigdor Milosevik killed in U.S. bombing raid on Tel-Aviv. America supports Obahma in bombing criminal, organ stealing, white phosporous, Zionist psychos.

Progress, defined as movement in a positive direction. So how does this apply to the point from whence the progressive movement came? Was that negative, bad, backward? Sounds more like a situation where if not enough people agree with me, then I will break away, start something new and guess what, I'll call it "progressive". How's that progress working out for you? The fact that you have to try and capture headlines with this offer to Goldstone is not a great endorsement.

Goldstone is a chance to the world, he should be honored, praised, prized and awarded year round with all types of recognition for human dignity, justice and peace worldwide

The ethical thing would have been for Goldstone to have recused himself from sitting in judgment where he, as a Jew (in this case), has an interest in the outcome. That is basic, hornbook law in the western world. Were he to have found for Israel, he would be accused of bias. Having, essentially, ruled against Israel, he appears to have bent over backward to avoid the appearance of bias. Neither is good. I guess his ego and financial needs made the decision.

It's good to see some people who actually question what happened to Gaza and tell the truth: that some things which were committed run against Jewish values. Judge Goldstone and other liberal Jews will be the savior of Israel against the far right-wingers who are endangering the whole state for the sake of a few settlements, and because they refuse to investigate whether the army committed any mistakes during the war.

No army in the world can touch the IDF for its ethical and moral standards. Why doesn't the UN investigate the actions of the U.S. in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Palestinians make false claims on a regular basis- are we supposed to investigate all of them? We are at war. Tikkun is a confused entity. They should stick to doing Bar Mitzvahs, until the last of them assimilates.

is quite obviously the castigation of Hamas for firing home-made rockets into 'Southern Israel'. Of course UNGA 181 defines the borders of the Israel and Palestinian states. Until peace talks conclude and any changes to borders are set, Sderot, Ashkelon, Ashdod and Beersheba all lie in the Arab partition, and are therefore occupied land and not 'Southern Israel'.

Regrettably there was a lot of false witness involved in Operation Cast Lead Gaza. The IDF first denied using white phosphorus, and then claimed it did so legally. It denied attacking medical personnel and it lied about its white phosphorus attack on the al-Quds hospital. Bearing false witness might not be a Jewish value, and it might be forbidden in the ten commandments, but it is nontheless an all too common trait in the IDF in its dealings with the Palestinians.

how dare they? ... how many more jews are turning out to be self-hating jews?? when will they undestand that Israel and its citizens (well, the jewish ones only of course) never does anything remotely reprehensible?? anybody who says anything bad about Israel and its citizens (well, the jewish ones only of course) should be sent to prison, stripped of their nationality and faith ... honestly, when will they understand that the "Chosen Ones" are simply above any criticism and whatever they do is ALWAYS the right thing to do .. when? .. I ask you, when?

Judge Goldstone criticised both Hamas and Israel in his report on the Gaza conflict. Ha'aretz is being disingenuous by inferring that only Israel was accused in the report.

"As many of us in the peace community noted, the charges could easily have been responded to by Israel taking the stance that these acts were not part of its policy, that they regretted them and intended to take steps to make sure that things of this sort would never happen again, and that it would hold accountable and punish those engaged in or giving orders for or collaborating with human rights violations," Yes.

Past recipients of the award, Lerner indicated, have included "Abba Eban, Allen Ginsberg, Irving Howe, Alred Kazin, Letty Cottin Pogrebin, Marion Wright Edelman, Yehuda Amichai, Senator Paul Wellstone, and James Hillman." Yet more nonsense. It is true Goldstone himself denied the conclusiveness of his report, but it has been treated as definitive, with Goldstone's caveats completely lost in the uproar.

Goldstone's report is full of uncorroborated and unverified accusations by the Pals. Goldstone himself admits this. Failing to check and verify means that lots of phony claims are included in Goldstone's report, meaning that there is a good chance there is false witness behind the accusations. That ain't Jewish in the slightest.