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Can the Jewish deli survive the sustainable food movement?

New-style deli owners say that what American Jews think of as the authentic Jewish deli is an ossified construct based on post-World War II ideals of abundance that had little to do with how Jews ate in early 20th-century New York, let alone in the Old World.

By Sue Fishkoff Tags: Jewish World Israel news

If you're trying to defend the Jewish deli to a roomful of locavores and food activists, it's good to have Michael Pollan on your side.

The Berkeley, Calif.-based author of the 2006 book "The Omnivore's Dilemma" - often referred to as the bible of the sustainable food movement - was on hand February 9 for a panel discussion at the city?s Jewish community center that was billed as a referendum on the future of the Jewish deli.

At issue was whether the famously fatty, gloriously schmaltz-laden cuisine of the Ashkenazic bubbe can mind-meld with the rarefied sensibilities of the Bay Area foodie. More specifically, can a Jewish deli worthy of the name commit to seasonal menus, regional produce and locally sourced meats without sending customers screaming for the door?

Sure, the panelists declared. But they'd had their minds made up before the evening started: This wasn't so much a referendum as a putsch.

Leading the charge were Karen Adelman and Peter Levitt, co-owners of Saul's Deli, a kosher-style Jewish deli down the block from Chez Panisse, über-chef Alice Water's famed eatery, the birthplace of California cuisine, and the place where Levitt got his training.

Adelman and Levitt?s position is clear: What American Jews think of as the authentic Jewish deli is an ossified construct based on post-World War II ideals of abundance that had little to do with how Jews ate in early 20th-century New York, let alone in the Old World.

That mile-high, fatty pastrami sandwich served at Katz's or the Carnegie Deli? American, not Jewish, they say. Jewish cooking a century ago was all about

thrift, seasonality and resourcefulness. Every part of the animal was used; portions were small; tomatoes were served in summer, and beets in winter.

Today's customers want everything on the menu year-round; if they don?t get it, Levitt said, "they complain it isn't a 'real' Jewish deli."

"'Authentic' is a moving target," Adelman added, pointing out how Jewish cuisine in this country has developed with each new immigration wave. "What we're arguing is, we're more authentic. What's authentic about mass-produced food and giant menus?"

On the other hand, she said, food memories are a huge part of culture and identity. Deli food is Jewish comfort food. The first angry e-mail that Adelman received when she took over Saul's was from her mother, warning her not to mess with tradition.

Walking in the front door of Saul's Deli, one wouldn't think they're messing with tradition. There is pastrami and corned beef, smoked fish in the display case, celery soda on the menu and a dish of pickles on every table.

But the meat is local and grass-fed. The fish comes only from sustainable farms. The half-sour pickles are made locally and are available only during cucumber season, June to November. And, most heretical of all, the celery soda is homemade.

A Jewish deli that doesn't serve Dr. Brown's Cel-Ray? Customers grumbled two years ago when Saul's made the switch, but Levitt and Adelman stuck to their guns. Jewish delis always used to make their own soda, they pointed out, along with pastrami, salami and kishkes. Today, most delis buy those items boxed, bottled or frozen. So who's more authentic?

"There was a time when Dr. Brown?s had the best soda in New York," Levitt said. "It was the city's de facto Jewish deli drink. Now the company is owned by Pepsi-Cola, and ConAgra Foods owns Hebrew National. The names we know are owned by industrial manufacturers."

Integrating sustainable food values into the Jewish deli menu may fly in Berkeley, where folks are willing to pay for food they feel good about politically. But there's a trade-off.

"Meat was produced differently 50 years ago, and to get back to that way of doing things costs a lot of money," Pollan told the crowd.

That's true, Levitt admitted: Industrial-grade beef costs about $2 a pound, while he pays $6 a pound for his grass-fed beef. Given that most delis operate so close to the margin anyway, how likely is it that other Jewish delis will embrace such sustainable practices on a national scale?

Not very, experts agree. Not until more customers demand it.

"There?s no reason why a Jewish deli can't be sustainable," argues David Sax, author of the 2009 book "Save the Deli."

Still, most deli owners are tied to the old model, even though that model doesn?t seem to be working. Jewish delis are going out of business nationwide: New York City, which boasted about 5,000 Jewish delis in the early 1950s, now has a mere two dozen, according to Sax.

He counts the number of new Jewish delis committed to sustainability on one hand: Kenny & Zuke's in Portland, Ore., Kaplansky's in Toronto and Mile End in Brooklyn's Boerum Hill neighborhood, which opened January 25.

It's no coincidence that the owners of all three are in their 20s and early 30s. The debate turns largely on generational lines. "There's growing awareness among younger deli owners that this is important to a new generation of deli customers," he says.

Chef and cookbook author Joan Nathan believes that sustainability is not a fad among American consumers. "It's here to stay," she said. "We're much more cognizant of what we're eating and where it comes from."

As the public becomes more educated, restaurants will have to adapt if they want to survive. That's hard for delis, because of the nostalgia factor. "The question is, are delis part of that future?" she asked. "I don't know."

Back at the Berkeley JCC, 80-year-old Max Cooperstein stayed in his seat for a few minutes after the discussion, reflecting. He grew up in Philadelphia and spent plenty of time at Jewish delis. The evening brought it all back.

"I grew up on chicken necks, kishke, all the stuff that clogs your arteries," he reminisced, pushing his cap back on his head and smiling at the memory. "And I was a victim of it - I'm a cardiac patient. Now I eat lunch at the salad bar at Whole Foods."

"Life is about change," chimed in Bonnie, his wife and deli-eating partner of 56 years. "If we don't change, we don't grow."

Contact Sue Fishkoff at feedback@forward.com

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  • 13. 0 0
    Deli is Jewish or Jewish-American, not Israeli or Jewish-Israeli.
    • Jozef
    • 06.03.10
    • 21:48

    Israeli cuisine seems to be rooted in the Middle East. Perhaps the best Moroccan couscous I ever had was in Israel. Israeli dairy products (which tasted wonderfully) struck me as similar to those I ate in Greece and in Lebenese restaurants. Later, in America, I had an opportunity to taste some dishes that came from the Jewish Ladino tradition. I never encountered anything like it in Israel - or anywhere else.

  • 12. 0 0
    fond memories
    • Harry
    • 04.03.10
    • 19:54

    I have fond memories of a local Deli on Long Island, where I grew up. It was a German deli. The potato salad was the best. Deli's are still popular on Long Island. Harry

  • 11. 0 0
    Jewish Deli's Death
    • Moshe Pesach geller
    • 04.03.10
    • 12:37

    It will die with everything else that's Jewish and that's dying in America.

  • 10. 0 0
    Delis are American Jewish restaurants
    • Ricky
    • 03.03.10
    • 22:25

    The deli was Ashkenazi Judaism's gift to America, pretty much, and it reflects Eastern Europe's meat and potato heavy cuisine in a way (but it disavows the Christians' preference for sausage in favor of sliced-up meat, for reasons that I don't know). It is an American restaurant style because Jewish culinary habits took a strange turn on Manhattan and in Brooklyn - apparently, Jews saw a lot of other cuisines, and they saw differing versions of the cuisine of their "home country", and some chefs invented new dishes, and so on and so forth.

  • 9. 0 0
    Jakubowski´s Oil...,
    • Harald
    • 02.03.10
    • 19:38

    ...cooking by itself!

  • 8. 0 0
    The wonders of comfort food. I remember a friend of mine,
    • Jozef
    • 01.03.10
    • 19:37

    a second generation Polish American who took me to a Jewish Deli in London. My Maltese friend introduced me to pastrami. He referred to it as "Jewish ham." And I still dream about a Reuben sandwich I had in a Jewish Deli - very kosher - in New York's Grand Central.

  • 7. 0 0
    Real Jewish Food
    • Mark
    • 28.02.10
    • 01:47

    Jewish cuisine invented by American Jews for the pleasure of other American Jews is real Jewish food. Pastrami on rye is authentic Jewish cuisine. So is the knish and everything else sold at the Second Avenue Deli. Dairy restaurants are authentically Jewish. However, excessive consumption of high cholesterol food will kill you and should be avoided. So goodbye deli.

  • 6. 0 0
    The Jewish Deli
    • H
    • 27.02.10
    • 03:04

    I like this story and the point it makes about what is authentic jewish deli food. It is the same argument when we talk about organic foods, this is the way foods were served or made available before ADM and ConAgra,etc. Back to the local and family farm for more of our food.

  • 5. 0 0
    Really Jewish deli should be Kosher
    • Boruch
    • 25.02.10
    • 17:28

    rather then "kosher style" selling treif.

  • 4. 0 0
    Reuben Sandwich
    • Rolly
    • 25.02.10
    • 14:45

    I live I central Florida farm country, I am one of the very few Jews that live around here, therefore there are no traditional Delis around, don't tell me that Deli food isn't Jewish, wherever there is a sizable Jewish population Delis abound. I would crawl on my knees, on broken glass, for a decent Rachel sandwich (a variation on the Reuben, made with Pastrami, not corned beef), as it is the only time I can indulge myself, without going all the way to N.Y., (or crawling on broken glass) is when I have to visit Miami.

  • 3. 0 0
    Deli
    • leon
    • 23.02.10
    • 17:15

    There was no pastrami or corned beef in Poland in pre-war Europe. I never heard of it until I arrived in the US. Of course, "Chinese" food in our restaurants is also purely American, as is "Greek", etc.

  • 2. 0 0
    Dr Brown's Black Cherry is the Best
    • Stephen A
    • 23.02.10
    • 16:48

    ..Jewish Deli's are there any other type? First job was in a deli.. Carneige Deli is an Historical landmark..and a great place to eat...

  • 1. 0 0
    Quite True These "Delis" are American, not Jewish
    • Shmuel
    • 23.02.10
    • 15:36

    Otherwise, we would see Dr.Brown's in Israel, and we certainly don't. Israelis didn't even know how to make a proper bagel until a few years ago, and they are still considered somewhat exotic here. There is nothing "Jewish" about these delis, especially if they are kosher-"style", a euphemism for traif.