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Minister opposed to deal: Swap victory for Hezbollah
By Barak Ravid, Amos Harel, and Yoav Stern, Haaretz Correspondents, and AP
Tags: Eldad Regev, Prisoner Swap 

The three cabinet ministers who on Sunday voted against a prisoner exchange deal with Hezbollah, said that the swap was a victory for the Lebanon-based guerilla organization.

Earlier Sunday the cabinet approved the prisoner swap with Hezbollah in which two Israeli soldiers seized by the Lebanese guerilla group in 2006 and believed dead, would be returned, in exchange for Lebanese terrorist Samir Kuntar.

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untar has been jailed in Israel since perpetrating a terror attack in Nahariya in 1979 during which four Israelis were brutally killed.

Twenty two ministers voted in favor of the agreement. Justice Minister Daniel Friedmann, Housing Minister Ze'ev Boim and Finance Minister Ronni Bar-On opposed.

"After Kuntar is released, who will prevent the release of Marwan Barghouti?" asked Bar-On after the cabinet session. Barghouti is Israel's most prominent Palestinian prisoner, who is serving five life sentences for spearheading a series of terror operations.

Bar-On added that "anyone who says that Samir Kuntar is not a bargaining chip in talks with Hezbollah on the topic of [missing Israeli airman] Ron Arad is wrong."

"A government promise was made to the Arad family, and it mustn't be broken," Bar-On continued, referring to Israel's ongoing efforts to obtain information on the fate of the Israel Air Force navigator who has not been seen since his plane went down over Lebanon in 1986.

Bar-On also voiced his opposition to the release of Palestinian prisoners in a prisoner exchange deal, saying that doing so would "give [Hezbollah Secretary-General Hassan] Nasrallah patronage over the Palestinian cause as well, and that is dangerous in my view."

"In addition, [releasing Palestinian prisoners] would raise the ransom in the Shalit deal," Bar-On concluded, referring to an additional hostage, IDF soldier Gilad Shalit, who has been held captive in the Gaza Strip by Palestinian militants since June 2006. Talks are currently underway regarding a separate prisoner swap that would recover Shalit in exchange for hundreds of Palestinian prisoners.

Friedmann said that "approving the deal sends a message of weakness," adding that "this is a terrible deal. The price is too high. We mustn't release Samir Kuntar because that would be an enormous victory for Hezbollah."

Boim said that "preventing terror is of the utmost importance - no less than that of returning the [abducted] soldiers." He also warned that Hezbollah would view the deal as a victory. "If Nasrallah rejoices, that will be burned into the Arab psyche," he said.

Boim also voiced his objection to the release of Kuntar, saying that "a lowly despicable terrorist, whose stock we elevated in 2004, will become a symbol. We mustn't underestimate symbols - they are the cause of rivers of bloodshed throughout human history."

Sunday's cabinet decision cleared the way for the German-mediated exchange with Hezbollah, possibly within days. Under the deal, Israel would free five Lebanese guerrillas, including Kuntar, who has been serving 4 life sentences in Israel since 1979, and repatriate the remains of around 10 slain border infiltrators.

Sources in Israel said the swap would probably take place by July 12, when Hezbollah is planning a victory ceremony to mark the second anniversary of the Second Lebanon War.

Earlier Sunday, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert urged the cabinet ministers to vote in favor of the prisoner exchange deal, declaring for the first time that he knew for certain that the two reservists abducted by Hezbollah during a cross-border raid on July 12, 2006, are dead.

"There is a fundamental difference between the knowledge we have regarding the fate of Eldad Regev and Ehud Goldwasser and the fate of Ron Arad," Olmert said.

"For more than 20 years after Arad's disappearance, we have not had confirmed information on what happened to him," he said.

"The assumption all this time was that theses people were alive. Today we know for certain that there is no chance of that, and that knowledge must be the basis for today's decision," Olmert said during the debate.

Goldwasser's father, Shlomo, said he was not surprised by the declaration, but wanted proof the soldiers were dead.

"There have been assessments for a long time," he said. "But none of this matters because it is not fact. ... They were alive when they kidnapped and no one has provided us with evidence to the contrary."

Until the meeting, it had not been clear which way Olmert would vote on the deal. The proposal to release prisoners in exchange for bodies has come under fire by intelligence services and other officials.

Ministers were briefed by security service heads and by Ofer Dekel, the official appointed by Olmert to negotiate the release of the two reservists held by Hezbollah and Shalit, who has been held in Gaza since June 2006.

While the cabinet was initially expected to approve the deal, an official present at the meeting said Israel's intelligence chiefs were urging ministers to vote against the swap.

"The defense officials are not easing up and it seems some of the ministers will be convinced and oppose the deal," the official.

Opening the cabinet meeting Sunday, the prime minister said he had deliberated "deeply" on the proposed deal. "There is no doubt that today's discussion has special weight and is exceptionally sensitive in terms of its national and moral implications," he said. "My conclusions are not free of doubts and dilemmas."

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      1.   clowns 05:13  |  rocket scientist 29/06/08
      2.   Bodies for bodies 05:52  |  Ain tachat ain 29/06/08
      3.   Olmert and Knesset are crazy. Kuntar is a child murderer 06:55  |  Ken Jurist 29/06/08
      4.   OLMERT & LIVNI WILL RELEASE TERRORIST BABY BUTCHERS 07:29  |  Rachel 29/06/08
      5.   Release of prisoners 08:39  |  KR 29/06/08
      6.   To Kin Jurist what About the Israeli child murderer 08:50  |  gus 29/06/08
      7.   Shame on Israel! 08:56  |  Eric 29/06/08
      8.   The Ultimate Galute Mentality! 09:07  |  Marvin I. Wolfe 29/06/08
      9.   Livni is playing games or is simply half a#s? 09:27  |  S 29/06/08
      10.   Kuntar, druze & child killer 09:40  |  ClearCut 29/06/08
      11.   Re S #8 09:57  |  Esther 29/06/08
      12.   Livni is correct - who negotiates without seeing the goods?! 10:11  |  redmike 29/06/08
      13.   gus #6 10:40  |  JewishHeart 29/06/08
      14.   Tar & Feather Kuntar & Hez Captives With The Same ... 10:43  |  Lavi 29/06/08
      15.   Israel will get a fair trade either way 10:46  |  Natallie Durson 29/06/08
      16.   redmike #12 She didn`t say "the correct thing". You did. 10:58  |  S 29/06/08
      17.   WE may soon know if Hesballa murdered these Israeli POW`s as well 11:06  |  PETER SM 29/06/08
      18.   Esther #11 11:22  |  S 29/06/08
      19.   1&2 are correct - live men for live men and dead men for dead 11:31  |  michelle 29/06/08
      20.   Kuntar and Co 11:37  |  Iceberg 29/06/08
      21.   @ rocket scientist 11:44  |  Ralph 29/06/08
      22.   How many clowns can fit in this car? 11:51  |  dyinglikeflies 29/06/08
      23.   Deal and dealers 11:58  |  chanan 29/06/08
      24.   clear cut 11:59  |  Connie 29/06/08
      25.   Live Terrorists For Dead Heroes - NO 12:08  |  Jonathan 29/06/08
      26.   Esther 12:09  |  Connie 29/06/08
      27.   Loveable Connie 12:25  |  FreeOne 29/06/08
      28.   Insane 12:39  |  Sidney 29/06/08
      29.   Re S #14 12:40  |  Esther 29/06/08
      30.   Why are the NGOs silent? Complicity? Incompetence? Racism? 12:52  |  Joe Sittizen 29/06/08
      31.   7 Eric 13:06  |  dvora 29/06/08
      32.   Don`t fret - nothing will come of this 13:39  |  Clickfool 29/06/08
      33.   Hezbollah has no reason to keep quiet about the kidnapped 13:43  |  Denise Thompson 29/06/08
      34.   NEVER NEGOTIATE WITH TERROR!!! 13:49  |  Ben Uziel 29/06/08
      35.   Connie - "clear cut " is our brother 13:55  |  arab 29/06/08
      36.   corps for corps,what about nassrallah? 14:12  |  kadima for nasrallah 29/06/08
      37.   Exchange only if our soldiers are alive 14:17  |  Boaz 29/06/08
      38.   Negotiations 14:35  |  j10 29/06/08
      39.   We will hang our heads in shame 15:05  |  K 29/06/08
      40.   Olmert again recommends giving something for nothing .. 15:08  |  redmike 29/06/08
      41.   Of Course They are Dead 15:12  |  Jane 29/06/08
      42.   Dead for the dead. Living for the living. 15:25  |  DE 29/06/08
      43.   Israel`s Rulers Profoundly EVIL if they Provide Islamics with 15:41  |  Linda Rivera 29/06/08
      44.   Exchange Conditions 15:46  |  ATLAS 29/06/08
      45.   Complete non-sense 15:47  |  Ulf 29/06/08
      46.   this is a great deal! 15:50  |  Leon Rosgarten 29/06/08
      47.   Why does Olmert call dead bodies "prisoners"? 15:58  |  17 29/06/08
      48.   LIVE for the LIVE... dead for the dead. 15:59  |  Dagma 29/06/08
      49.   #31 - Dvora 16:04  |  Eric 29/06/08
      50.   Whatrever Olmert thinks or believes is right...... 16:13  |  Dolly 29/06/08
      51.   Israel has a long history of negotiating with Terrorists... 16:14  |  POP 29/06/08
      52.   wonder 16:16  |  george dickens 29/06/08
      53.   So When Does The Cabinet Vote? 16:20  |  Jeff Northridge 29/06/08
      54.   the lebanes govrnment??? 16:21  |  issamghallab 29/06/08
      55.   Olmert had time to take a public opinion poll 16:23  |  Tosefta 29/06/08
      56.   Sends the wrong message. And doesn`t even begin to make sense. 16:31  |  This is not mercy 29/06/08
      57.   Not only will we hang our heads in shame #39 16:32  |  Strangelove 29/06/08
      58.   They are alive, although not worth it 16:33  |  Imad 29/06/08
      59.   # 41 Jane 16:37  |  Imad 29/06/08
      60.   Prisoner Swap 16:41  |  Scott G 29/06/08
      61.   Heartless narciss/charming manipulator = psychopath 16:46  |  17 29/06/08
      62.   Rachel in New York 16:48  |  Tony 29/06/08
      63.   Jonathon #25 16:52  |  Scott G 29/06/08
      64.   Mr issam 16:53  |  Free patriotic mvt 29/06/08
      65.   FreeOne 16:55  |  rich 29/06/08
      66.   So correct me 16:56  |  Fahim 29/06/08
      67.   What prisoner exchange? These are hostages for child mderer 17:02  |  Dan 29/06/08
      68.   what a mistake :( 17:02  |  x-ray 29/06/08
      69.   Tosefta # 55 _ You Give These Thugs Too Much Credit 17:03  |  Eli 29/06/08
      70.   Grave Error 17:07  |  Mr Ipp 29/06/08
      71.   rich in london 17:17  |  ClearCut 29/06/08
      72.   THANKS TO HIZBULLAH 17:18  |  indrajaya 29/06/08
      73.   clickfool 32 17:22  |  George 29/06/08
      74.   Olmert started the crazy 2nd Leb War, lost it & now begging Hizbu 17:24  |  Yossi Cronenberg 29/06/08
      75.   Israel knows what it is doing 17:27  |  Ari 29/06/08
      76.   Forgot something 17:32  |  Vic 29/06/08
      77.   fatal mistake 17:33  |  dovale 29/06/08
      78.   #70 indrajaya 17:33  |  Imad 29/06/08
      79.   #70 - indrajaya 17:34  |  Maurice 29/06/08
      80.   so.... What was the point of the 2nd Lebanon war? 17:36  |  Raz 29/06/08
      81.   #75 - Ari 17:37  |  Maurice 29/06/08
      82.   Yossi Cronenberg 17:39  |  Imad 29/06/08
      83.   Yossi Cronenberg 17:39  |  Imad 29/06/08
      84.   Hezbollah Won The War, Now It Wins Again. 17:44  |  Robert 29/06/08
      85.   Another shameful deal brokered by Germany 17:45  |  Jonathan S 29/06/08
      86.   Ari 17:45  |  JewishHeart 29/06/08
      87.   Raz 17:47  |  Jojo 29/06/08
      88.   SHAME and HONOUR 17:49  |  Paul 29/06/08
      89.   Typo in article 17:49  |  Shlomo 29/06/08
      90.   Kuntar 17:51  |  Anonymous 29/06/08
      91.   New Leaders 17:52  |  Jane 29/06/08
      92.   THIS IS WHY THEY AREMOST LIKELY DEAD 17:54  |  Gabriel 29/06/08
      93.   It`s traitorous to exchange corpses for terrorists 17:54  |  David Teich 29/06/08
      94.   A day marked forever with infamy ! 17:55  |  Eagle 29/06/08
      95.   We need a new Book of Lamentations 17:56  |  Sidney 29/06/08
      96.   Clash of Civilizations 2 18:00  |  ScotGuy 29/06/08
      97.   Insanity 18:01  |  Howard Tabachnick 29/06/08
      98.   The joy in Teheran 18:01  |  DR D 29/06/08
      99.   Bodies for Bodies, HooYah 18:04  |  Some Guy In Florida 29/06/08
      100.   David Teich I agree with you: what a fashla 18:04  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 29/06/08
      101.   Tosefta #55 I agree. 18:05  |  S 29/06/08
      102.   STILL FRESH IN MY MIND TWO YEARS AGO 18:07  |  indrajaya 29/06/08
      103.   What is next? 18:07  |  Jane 29/06/08
      104.   Gil I understand your attitudes and your motives 18:10  |  Jasmine Murphy 29/06/08
      105.   Prisoner exchange 18:15  |  Chris 29/06/08
      106.   we`re not paying enough! 18:18  |  citizen zero 29/06/08
      107.   As Sayyed Said (100%) no more no less 18:28  |  Jo of Oman 29/06/08
      108.   JewishHeart 18:30  |  Guy From NYC 29/06/08
      109.   gus 18:38  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 29/06/08
      110.   $ha$ 18:38  |  Arie 29/06/08
      111.   What did Israel get out of this deal? 18:39  |  MiddleStanian 29/06/08
      112.   Here is how to release Kuntar 18:39  |  jackie 29/06/08
      113.   Nasrallah splitting his sides! 18:42  |  Mike 29/06/08
      114.   Now That Kadima Okays Kuntar Release , What Argument Has Kadima 18:43  |  Joseph.E 29/06/08
      115.   What?????( second try) 18:49  |  Danite 29/06/08
      116.   Gay Parade more important then security 18:54  |  Fred 29/06/08
      117.   For S et al... 18:59  |  Esther 29/06/08
      118.   A terrible vote but ... 19:00  |  Vital 29/06/08
      119.   Middlestanian 19:02  |  x-ray 29/06/08
      120.   our guy in Lebanon 19:03  |  Persian hero 29/06/08
      121.   RELEASING MURDERERS FOR DEAD BODIES!! ISRAEL REACHED A NEW LOW!! 19:05  |  Tom 29/06/08
      122.   Hard to understand or approve of 19:05  |  MarkC 29/06/08
      123.   strenghtening hezbollah 19:13  |  paulo2005 29/06/08
      124.   Imad your guys aren`t worth it, you`re right 19:16  |  x-ray 29/06/08
      125.   Re Connie #26 19:19  |  Esther 29/06/08
      126.   Final Swap 19:23  |  Walid 29/06/08
      127.   THE CHOICE TO ENCOURAGE MORE MURDER, KIDNAPPING & TERRORISM 19:25  |  David P 29/06/08
      128.   Yes or No 19:30  |  Sabra 29/06/08
      129.   #127, DAVID P 19:35  |  indrajaya 29/06/08
      130.   Dead captives dont talk 19:35  |  Ssabra 29/06/08
      131.   Argue Later - Get It Done 19:44  |  Mark of Lewiston 29/06/08
      132.   Margie in TelAviv and Rich 19:44  |  FreeOne 29/06/08
      133.   And now 10,000 Palestinians for Schalit 19:46  |  Ezequiel Levy 29/06/08
      134.   GUS #6 WHEN WILL U LEARN? 19:46  |  JOJO 29/06/08
      135.   ALAS 19:55  |  Shi`it happens 29/06/08
      136.   #57 strangelove 19:59  |  K 29/06/08
      137.   Don`t trade prisoners for bodies,but bodies for prisioners bodies 20:08  |  soldier 29/06/08
      138.   #133 Why stop @10,000 Terrorists? Trade in Futures, sell 20,000 20:10  |  David P 29/06/08
      139.   Release this government 20:12  |  Zev 29/06/08
      140.   This is the END of Olmert! 20:18  |  Eric 29/06/08
      141.   alive when kidnapped and then murdered. 20:25  |  Jo 29/06/08
      142.   feel the sorrow 20:26  |  Sam 29/06/08
      143.   Free one 20:26  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 29/06/08
      144.   Indrajaya`s celebrations... 20:28  |  Ulf 29/06/08
      145.   troops are dead 20:30  |  Ralph 29/06/08
      146.   Kill Kuntar in Lebanon after the deal 20:34  |  Avi 29/06/08
      147.   Under Olmert, Barak & Kadima they have broke all the rules 20:35  |  Shepherd 29/06/08
      148.   Tosefta, almost gets it, almost #55 20:36  |  FOX 29/06/08
      149.   The value of dead Jews 20:36  |  natan 29/06/08
      150.   # 144, ULF 20:38  |  indrajaya 29/06/08
      151.   #80 - Raz, the point? 20:39  |  Richard F 29/06/08
      152.   To Eric # 141 - Olmert KICKED OUT....? 20:42  |  Natasha 29/06/08
      153.   Hague To Nasrallah 20:43  |  FOX 29/06/08
      154.   If our boys a coming hime in a box..... 20:46  |  Berel 29/06/08
      155.   If these soldiers are dead..... 20:47  |  R 29/06/08
      156.   #15 Make up your mind, Natallie 20:50  |  DesMnsDave 29/06/08
      157.   how much cash was in the envelope?,olmert recieved from hezbolah 20:50  |  chaim 29/06/08
      158.   #30 NGO`s are useless 20:52  |  DesMnsDave 29/06/08
      159.   Dead bodies for prisoners-murders 20:54  |  Jozef, 29/06/08
      160.   #72 Muslim celebration ala Indrajaya 20:55  |  DesMnsDave 29/06/08
      161.   To 20, 21:03  |  Jozef 29/06/08
      162.   #124 x-ray 21:06  |  Imad 29/06/08
      163.   natan, proud and living in seventh cloud 21:09  |  ClearCut 29/06/08
      164.   Brilliant... 21:15  |  Joe 29/06/08
      165.   Dear Margie, in Tel Aviv 21:18  |  FreeOne 29/06/08
      166.   # 124 x-ray. Imad..It is because We Love Life,they prefer Death! 21:20  |  KATHY 29/06/08
      167.   # 150 Your are right it works, but !!! 21:26  |  CM 29/06/08
      168.   4 x life =freedom !!! 21:41  |  Vogel 29/06/08
      169.   Only DEAD Terrorists must be returned for DEAD Captives/POWs 22:04  |  Linda Rivera 29/06/08
      170.   As an American Jew I wonder, are Israeli Jews idiots? 22:09  |  Steve Randolph 29/06/08
      171.   The Margin was 22-3!!! 22:13  |  Ken 29/06/08
      172.   israel again shows its superior to its enemies 22:15  |  POP 29/06/08
      173.   how is that exactly POP? 22:37  |  enemy 29/06/08
      174.   Just A Thought 22:39  |  Jane 29/06/08
      175.   to # 172 no it did not 22:42  |  CM 29/06/08
      176.   Someguy in FL 22:46  |  Scott G 29/06/08
      177.   Bodies for live active vicious terrorists 22:54  |  Hilda 29/06/08
      178.   The prisoner exchange is right gov`t decision... 22:59  |  Smadar 29/06/08
      179.   Vote Out Ministers 23:08  |  Jane 29/06/08
      180.   #170 Steve Randolph...It Is Not The Jews,but the Leaders You.. 23:09  |  KATHY 29/06/08
      181.   Israel is a partner with Iran 23:10  |  Lebanese Muslim 29/06/08
      182.   Give them Olmert 23:12  |  Gilbert 29/06/08
      183.   ministers 23:16  |  Shmuelshachor 29/06/08
      184.   Shame Shame Shame 23:16  |  Charlie Khoury 29/06/08
      185.   Imad-I Hope for the Families You are Right and I am Wrong 23:21  |  Jane 29/06/08
      186.   dear enemy, time doesnt allow me to explain all the minutae 23:33  |  POP 29/06/08
      187.   clear cut - do the math 23:44  |  natan 29/06/08
      188.   Reply to Steve (170) - Spot On 23:44  |  Tod Zuckerman 29/06/08
      189.   Trading cadaver tissue for murderers. 23:45  |  Nathaniel 29/06/08
      190.   NO SWAP 00:01  |  siem 30/06/08
      191.   Scott G of Frederick MD @# 176 00:11  |  Absolute Israel 30/06/08
      192.   David Teich 00:16  |  GABE1 30/06/08
      193.   Esther 00:20  |  Connie 30/06/08
      194.   lebanese muslim 00:23  |  Connie 30/06/08
      195.   Israel needs to give a clear message here 00:40  |  joki 30/06/08
      196.   Just in Israel: Dealing live dangerous militants 01:03  |  JP 30/06/08
      197.   Anonymous 01:06  |  Anonymous 30/06/08
      198.   # 178 And Who Is Running Lebanon Smadar? 01:17  |  KATHY 30/06/08
      199.   what is most outrageous about this whole affair 01:18  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 30/06/08
      200.   Tfeh Charlie Khoury 01:20  |  Robert Khoury 30/06/08
      201.   i can understand the families` pain & need for closure, but - 01:20  |  ivo 30/06/08
      202.   FreeOne 01:24  |  rich 30/06/08
      203.   #163 ClearCut ..Not so Clear Cut I fear.. 01:32  |  anonymous 30/06/08
      204.   #190 Joki, Right on, but the government will give the bad signal 02:03  |  JP 30/06/08
      205.   # 190 jokie What is This,Playing Chinese Chequers? 03:24  |  anonymous 30/06/08
      206.   #6 Gus 03:25  |  Jane 30/06/08
      207.   Cipora @199 03:28  |  GABE1 30/06/08
      208.   Cipora @199 03:56  |  GABE1 30/06/08
      209.   anonymous 04:22  |  Connie 30/06/08
      210.   TO ALL PRO-ISRAELI JERKS 04:57  |  JOJO 30/06/08
      211.   Most Israelis have Palestinian Blood on their hands 05:29  |  Joe 30/06/08
      212.   Third Try- For The Liars-the Pro BS Group 06:09  |  Yakov 30/06/08
      213.   Kuntar ,Heinious terrorist murderer 06:47  |  Sarah 30/06/08
      214.   Charlie the Lebanese Khoury #184 07:35  |  ELIAS KHOURY 30/06/08
      215.   notwithstanding israel`s NEW "intelligence" re: their status 08:07  |  eric 30/06/08
      216.   Thre is one thing for certain... 08:20  |  Far away n loving it 30/06/08
      217.   #6 THIRD TRY GUS - Try some facts 14:59  |  * BEN JABO 30/06/08
      218.   Exchange must be living for living 16:06  |  * BEN JABO 30/06/08
      219.   a very bad precedent 20:20  |  Geo 30/06/08
      220.   # 218 seems you may have been outvoted, ben 05:17  |  eric 01/07/08
      221.   220: Eric, give me one instance where the majority was right 15:32  |  David Teich 01/07/08
      222.   # 221 to david teich re: the majority 09:41  |  eric 02/07/08
      223.   Eric the runner mutters again 13:55  |  David Teich 02/07/08
      224.   #220 2ND TRY Eric - Outvoted, Yes 18:12  |  * BEN JABO 02/07/08
      225.   # 223 to david teich re: the bill 10:08  |  eric 03/07/08
      226.   # 224 to ben jabo who dreams of being an israeli 10:36  |  eric 03/07/08
      227.   Eric, still missing it. That `aint unusual 14:23  |  David Teich 03/07/08
      228.   #226 Eric - wrong again 15:39  |  * BEN JABO 03/07/08
      229.   # 227 to teich`s bottom line 04:18  |  eric 06/07/08
      230.   Wow, another agreement? 10:39  |  David Teich 06/07/08
      231.   # 228 i happy for your dual citizenship, ben (2nd try) 20:06  |  eric 06/07/08
      232.   # 230 it was the first, teich...took several attempts 20:35  |  eric 06/07/08
      233.   232: Nope, eric, it`s more than that 14:42  |  David Teich 08/07/08
      234.   # 233 historical fact vs. historical perspective, david teich 08:45  |  eric 09/07/08
      235.   234: eric, relativism is a cop-out, p2 12:16  |  David Teich 10/07/08
      236.   234: eric, relativism is a cop-out, p1 (2nd try) 21:18  |  David Teich 10/07/08
      237.   # 235 first of all, teich 07:58  |  eric 11/07/08
      238.   235: eric, they aren`t assumptions 12:58  |  David Teich 11/07/08
      239.   # 236 to teich re: evictions (2nd try) 07:25  |  eric 12/07/08
      240.   # 238 to david teich re: "conclusions"... 08:26  |  eric 12/07/08
      241.   239-40: Eric, still doing it. So sad. p1 15:30  |  David Teich 12/07/08
      242.   239-40: Eric, still doing it. So sad. p2 15:33  |  David Teich 12/07/08
      243.   to david tiech re: deflection, deception, and misdirection... 21:06  |  eric 14/07/08
      244.   eric: confused about terms yet again, p3 13:09  |  David Teich 15/07/08
      245.   eric: confused about terms yet again, p4 13:14  |  David Teich 15/07/08
      246.   # 245 to david teich re: running and lies 08:28  |  eric 16/07/08
      247.   Now eric`s lying to himself, p1 13:08  |  David Teich 17/07/08
      248.   coward under the dress 06:49  |  Geno 18/07/08
      249.   Now eric`s lying to himself, p2 (2nd try) 13:53  |  David Teich 19/07/08
      250.   # 247 a note to david teich (2nd try) 04:01  |  eric 20/07/08
      251.   250: The continual amusement provided by eric 14:22  |  David Teich 21/07/08
      252.   And, just for fun, lets review another of eric`s statements 12:23  |  David Teich 24/07/08
      253.   # 252 but david; I MADE NO COMMENT HERE! 07:01  |  eric 25/07/08
      254.   Censors: That`s three from this weekend 16:30  |  David Teich 26/07/08
      255.   253: Wait, a "no comment" comment from eric... (3rd try) 14:39  |  David Teich 27/07/08
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