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Miki Goldwasser, the mother of abducted soldier Ehud Goldwasser. (Ouria Tadmor / Jini) Last update - 12:33 25/06/2008 Israel's spymasters concluded weeks ago: Troops seized by Hezbollah are dead By Amos Harel, Yuval Azoulay, Jack Khoury, Barak Ravid and Eli Ashkenazi Tags: Israel, Ehud Olmert  Three weeks have passed since Israel's intelligence agencies came to the conclusion that the two soldiers abducted by Hezbollah are dead. An order by Olmert this week to have seized reservists Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev formally declared as killed in action, has lent weight to allegations by sources involved in the indirect negotiations with Hezbollah that the move is aimed at foiling a prospective prisoner swap. The two reservists were captured by Hezbollah guerillas in July 2006, an incident which sparked the month-long Second Lebanon War. Advertisement Officials said as recently as last week that a prisoner exchange was close to conclusion, and suggested that a swap with Hezbollah could take place soon. But security sources revealed Tuesday that Israel's intelligence agencies on June 3 submitted their conclusions that the two soldiers are dead. Two days ago, Olmert ordered the military's chief rabbi, Brigadier General Avihai Ronsky, to find out whether Goldwasser and Regev could formally be declared killed in action, fallen soldiers whose place of burial was unknown. The process involves assessment of intelligence information and rulings of Jewish law. Olmert's order came almost three weeks after that conclusion was reached by the panel of chiefs of intelligence services, Military Intelligence, the Mossad, and the Shin Bet. Sources said each service conducted an independent examination, which led to a collective conclusion. It remains unclear why the decision was delayed. However, the span of time appears to lend credence to suspicions that the goal of the move to declare the soldiers dead is to scuttle the deal, as sources involved in the negotiations have charged. Security sources said no unequivocal intelligence information was acquired over the last several months that supported their findings, which were primarily based on existing information. Meanwhile, Goldwasser's wife, who met with Olmert on Wednesday, said the prime minister has promised her toask the Cabinet on Sunday to approve a prisoner swap with Hezbollah. "The deal, as [Olmert] promised me, will be brought for a vote on Sunday," Karnit Goldwasser told Israel's Channel 10 television, after the meeting. "I very much hope the ministers ... will make the decision to bring Udi and Eldad home." There was no immediate comment from the government. Barak: We'll bring the soldiers home, even if they are dead Defense Minister Ehud Barak said on Tuesday that Israeli attempts to bring back the soldiers would not cease, even if they were declared dead. "We have a responsibility to bring the abducted soldiers home even they're dead. The process [to declare them dead], even if it comes to fruition, isn't supposed to in any way stop the talks on the deal to bring them home," Barak said during a visit to Moshav Netiv Ha'asara in the western Negev. The soldiers' families lashed out against the move and demanded that Olmert quickly bring the deal to a cabinet vote. Over the past few days, after an agreement with Hezbollah seemed close, a delay ensued for reasons not fully known. But on Monday it became clear that it was Olmert who was holding back and that a process was beginning to declare the two soldiers dead. Defense officials said that even if Ronsky determines that Goldwasser and Regev are dead, Israel Defense Forces Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi will still support the prisoner swap as an obligation to the families and a relatively "cheap" deal for Israel because there is no obligation to release Palestinian prisoners. Miki Goldwasser, the mother of Ehud Goldwasser, said: "Why now, when the deal is done and there's nothing better, is somebody is trying to torpedo it, and Olmert for his own reasons, political or otherwise, isn't in a hurry to approve it?" Benny Regev, Eldad's brother, said: "Unfortunately it looks like the deal isn't going to happen. It's no secret that at the base of this deal is the claim that their [the soldiers'] being alive is not certain. Still, we think most of the ministers would have supported it." Karnit Goldwasser, Ehud Goldwasser's wife, said: "We had to beg the ministers to support the deal. At the end of the day we got a call that the file is with the military rabbi. This is a humiliating day for Israel." Deal apparently held up by bid for Kuntar release Olmert is said to be delaying the deal because of objections by Mossad head Meir Dagan and Shin Ben security service head Yuval Diskin to an agreement that would see the release of Lebanese prisoner Samir Kuntar, who is serving multiple prison terms for the 1979 murders of four Israelis, without knowing what Israel will hear in return on the fate of missing Israel Air Force navigator Ron Arad. Kuntar remained in Israel's hands as a bargaining chip after the release of Elhanan Tennenbaum in 2004. An arrangement seemed to be in the making recently for Hezbollah to deliver a detailed report on Arad. Israel now wants to know the nature of that report, and on Diskin and Dagan's recommendation, Olmert wants to hold back the deal until this point is clarified. In exchange for the report, Israel will reportedly give Hezbollah information on the fate of four Lebanese diplomats who disappeared in Lebanon in 1982, and were apparently murdered by Christian Phalangists. Another issue that has resurfaced over the past few days involves Palestinian prisoners. Although no official word has reached the media, prisoners negotiator Ofer Dekel told the Goldwasser and Regev families last week that Israel is expected to agree to release a few dozen Palestinian prisoners of its choosing, to be presented as a gesture to United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, represented by German negotiator Gerhard Konrad. However, sources close to the deal said Monday that this issue was not a major hindrance to the deal, and that the main issue was over the information about Arad. The sources said it was likely that Olmert would delay approval of the deal and prevent it coming up for debate in the cabinet. "This is very serious," Ehud Goldwasser's father Shlomo said. "It means Olmert's playing his cards close to his chest and not sharing information with the ministers." Olmert is traveling to Sharm el-Sheikh on Tuesday to meet with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak. The two leaders will discuss the renewal of mediation efforts by Egypt on a deal with Hamas to free captured IDF soldier Gilad Shalit. Related articles: Families of soldiers snatched by Hezbollah: 'We've waited long enough' Hezbollah wants Palestinians included in prisoner swap Most ministers back Hezbollah prisoner swap PMO: Prisoner exchange with Hezbollah not likely next week Mother of missing soldier: Hezbollah will kidnap again if Kuntar not returned Bookmark to del.icio.us   Kosher Idol A new Haredi reality show called 'The Upcoming Voice' makes 'American Idol' kosher. Chief Rabbi's savior New look at Nazi-era papers names mysterious rescuer of future Chief Rabbi.   1.   They can`t violate the agreement 09:16  |  Ivan 23/06/08   2.   Dagan and Diskin are right 09:18  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 23/06/08   3.   Losing the war 09:19  |  Imad 23/06/08   4.   Isreal prefers not to buy a "pig in a poke" 09:23  |  Natallie Durson 23/06/08   5.   NO TO HESBOLLAH 09:27  |  Siem 23/06/08   6.   Dead, in the noble cause of Olmert`s ego 09:34  |  Clickfool 23/06/08   7.   Conclusion: Hezbollah murdured the captured prisoners? 09:39  |  Joe Sittizen 23/06/08   8.   What does this tell other IDF men? 09:42  |  Clickfool 23/06/08   9.   Ivan Hez alway keep their part of the deal Israel did not 09:57  |  gus 23/06/08   10.   It should be obvious that they are dead 09:58  |  .. 23/06/08   11.   demand contrary to Israel`s national security 10:09  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 23/06/08   12.   Hezbullah never lies: another myth dead at our feet 10:16  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 23/06/08   13.   long live lebanon 10:31  |  peter 23/06/08   14.   #8, fool, what does it tell anyone 10:46  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 23/06/08   15.   I agree with both Cipora and Natallie! With Olmert too!!! 10:49  |  S 23/06/08   16.   #4, Durson, for once you are right 10:49  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 23/06/08   17.   #10, peter, very well put 10:57  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 23/06/08   18.   IMAD Gus. Of course you won! Arabs have never lost a war or 11:03  |  PETER SM 23/06/08   19.   Margie #11 11:07  |  Guido 23/06/08   20.   CJK #16 (for once you are right) 11:10  |  Guido 23/06/08   21.   #4 Natallie Durson 11:21  |  Taso 23/06/08   22.   For Cipora # 14 11:22  |  Clickfool 23/06/08   23.   GUS.Here is what Nasrallah says about peace! Who you kidding? 11:30  |  PETER SM 23/06/08   24.   You`re a ridiculous person, Cipora # 11 11:32  |  Clickfool 23/06/08   25.   MY heart goes out to Mrs Goldwasser.Lebs. will not even say if 11:42  |  PETER SM 23/06/08   26.   N.Durson(#4) teaches Cipora good lesson 11:46  |  John Syracuse 23/06/08   27.   Care to hazard a guess as to the identity of those Pal prisoners? 12:08  |  Johnboy 23/06/08   28.   A PAINFUL DECISION 12:09  |  Jay A Friedman 23/06/08   29.   Imad #3 - Keep living in your fantasy ... 12:18  |  Rafi 23/06/08   30.   We should not wait but beat the Hezbullah to the ground now. 12:22  |  Jean Van Daem 23/06/08   31.   #29, keep ignoring the fact that we kicked your butt 13:09  |  Ali 23/06/08   32.   JOHNBOY No need to guess they get visitorsUnlike the way your lot 13:12  |  PETER SM 23/06/08   33.   I agree with Cipora #2and Natallie #4! (second try) 13:39  |  S 23/06/08   34.   ALKI LAST Israelis left Lebanon AFTER you dishonestly 1701 13:43  |  PETER SM 23/06/08   35.   Ali our butts are too high to reach, you tickled our ankles 14:25  |  x-ray 23/06/08   36.   Ali ....Do you smile as much when Hezbollah 14:34  |  Lynn 23/06/08   37.   #3 Ali - Take an example from a foot ball match 15:07  |  Rafi 23/06/08   38.   Clickfool #24 you are infinitely more ridiculous than Cipora! 15:28  |  S 23/06/08   39.   Ali: you have me worried as you people are so smart 15:35  |  Ilan 23/06/08   40.   Durson finally arrives at obvious conclusion 16:05  |  Joe Sittizen 23/06/08   41.   #31 Ali ... darn tootin you kicked butt 16:09  |  Joe Sittizen 23/06/08   42.   Hizblownazis are wimps with propaganda 16:26  |  ankhfnkhonsu 23/06/08   43.   Hizblownazis are wimps with propaganda 16:26  |  ankhfnkhonsu 23/06/08   44.   Imad #3 and Gus 16:27  |  utagawa 23/06/08   45.   Pot calling the kettle black (again) 16:30  |  truejew 23/06/08   46.   #32 No need to guess, PETER SM? 16:38  |  Johnboy 23/06/08   47.   No Release for Mad-dog Kuntar! 17:00  |  utagawa 23/06/08   48.   JOHNBOY there is NO censorship on who is in Israel 17:21  |  PETER SM 23/06/08   49.   Clickfool - If the soliders are dead, Nasrallah will get 1000 17:28  |  x 23/06/08   50.   To Ali #31 17:38  |  Yusef 23/06/08   51.   Once stupid, always stupid 17:39  |  Hadi 23/06/08   52.   The stone age-Rafi 17:54  |  Hadi 23/06/08   53.   For "x" # 49 18:05  |  Clickfool 23/06/08   54.   Hadi # 52 you did not read the book!! 20:00  |  Abu Halil 23/06/08   55.   to Nathalie no 4/ for once 20:10  |  Tina 23/06/08   56.   Palestinians not a Hezbollah issue, Palestinians for Palestinians 20:17  |  J 23/06/08   57.   Dear Mr Fool 20:28  |  James 23/06/08   58.   Um, Hadi, Just remember what Nasrallah told you. 20:31  |  Joe Sittizen 23/06/08   59.   to Rafi and his football match 21:07  |  Ali 23/06/08   60.   Sadness for the families BUT 21:24  |  guy 23/06/08   61.   to hadi,#53 21:27  |  Igor D. 23/06/08   62.   #51 Everybody in world know that you are 21:31  |  Ulf 23/06/08   63.   They have been dead for two years now 21:45  |  Adrian de Klerk 23/06/08   64.   They Are Dead, Nothing To Negotiate 21:45  |  Nicholas 23/06/08   65.   Imad 21:52  |  Alex 23/06/08   66.   Ali 21:55  |  Alex 23/06/08   67.   better idea: go in and get them, and kill all the hizzies. 21:59  |  frenz 23/06/08   68.   I FEEL SICK TO SEE HOW A COUNTRY CAN 22:06  |  indrajaya 23/06/08   69.   hadi from tyr 22:22  |  ruhollah fm france 23/06/08   70.   To # 7 NO your IAF did.. because they where booming 22:30  |  US person 23/06/08   71.   life=0 22:31  |  Fadi Hirz 23/06/08   72.   #56 J, Who the hell are you? 22:33  |  Palestinian 23/06/08   73.   #2: False "Natallie"?, Clickfool, please actually read the accoun 22:39  |  Paul Freedman 23/06/08   74.   to palestinian, #63 22:44  |  Igor D. 23/06/08   75.   No Red Cross Visits... 22:46  |  Henry 23/06/08   76.   Clickfool - It`s safer for soldiers if they don`t negotiate 22:49  |  David 23/06/08   77.   Cannot figure out Clickfool 22:56  |  Mike 23/06/08   78.   The negotiator didn`t sow them alive. 22:58  |  DR D 23/06/08   79.   Is this how Israel treats its Soldiers?? 22:59  |  Concerned individual 23/06/08   80.   #73, David, Hezbollah has no idea what "good faith" means 23:08  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 23/06/08   81.   The soldiers would want to be considered dead 23:10  |  Slappy 23/06/08   82.   A sad day 23:26  |  KUTW 23/06/08   83.   to igor d.: ill help you understand a thing or two 23:41  |  noor 23/06/08   84.   to SLAPPY 23:46  |  noor 23/06/08   85.   A simple rule 23:47  |  Alex 23/06/08   86.   How Convenient! 23:49  |  Mark Lincoln 23/06/08   87.   palestinian is right 23:53  |  noor 23/06/08   88.   Make deal on condition they are alive 23:54  |  Barry 23/06/08   89.   Israel Can Not Trade a Murderer for Dead Soldiers 00:24  |  Ron 24/06/08   90.   Ali narrow mind 00:29  |  Fred 24/06/08   91.   Do the math 00:52  |  Baz Mann 24/06/08   92.   #72 palestinian: NOT palestinian but ARAB! YOU wrote it. 01:00  |  Arthur 24/06/08   93.   #72 palestinian this land has been occupied by the Ottomans too, 01:03  |  Arthur 24/06/08   94.   OMG Ali are you naive 01:07  |  joki 24/06/08   95.   #1 Ivan - What do you mean? 01:14  |  * BEN JABO 24/06/08   96.   #48 PETER SM couldn`t see a point if it drew blood 01:14  |  Johnboy 24/06/08   97.   #14 Cipora 01:17  |  oetis 24/06/08   98.   #27 Johnboy - I know it`s beyond your comprehension 01:20  |  * BEN JABO 24/06/08   99.   #70 US person - Really? 01:25  |  * BEN JABO 24/06/08   100.   #79 Concerned Individual - Montreal 01:28  |  * BEN JABO 24/06/08   101.   They all lie 01:28  |  Oetris 24/06/08   102.   1000 Dead-proud zionists 01:29  |  Hadi 24/06/08   103.   Fadi I`ve told you before 01:33  |  ChanahS 24/06/08   104.   Ali -- Your trophies don`t impress 01:36  |  Gina 24/06/08   105.   Hadi 01:41  |  Gina 24/06/08   106.   Maureen Ann - Please arrange to pick up your award 01:58  |  * BEN JABO 24/06/08   107.   The methof to the madness 02:21  |  TonyL 24/06/08   108.   re#68 EAST TIMOR SHOULD MK U SICK !!!! 02:32  |  Alberto Cohen 24/06/08   109.   Using the media to haggle, that`s all 02:59  |  Aphemia 24/06/08   110.   Slappy #81- Well Put 03:06  |  Joe Frazier 24/06/08   111.   The Best Moral Principles r Inconsistent 03:12  |  JOJO 24/06/08   112.   www.lebanesfreedom.org 03:44  |  issam ghallab 24/06/08   113.   re68 Iranian "JUSTICE" should make u SICK 03:45  |  Alberto Cohen 24/06/08   114.   Olmert acting like a coward? 03:47  |  Tosefta 24/06/08   115.   HOPE it a negotiating position to tell killer of ALL Jews wannabe 03:47  |  PETER SM 24/06/08   116.   Suppose the strangest happens 04:04  |  Tosefta 24/06/08   117.   To Ali, Hadi, Imad and any supporter of 04:55  |  Helpless Lebanese 24/06/08   118.   #4 For once I agree w/Natallie! 05:02  |  DesMnsDave 24/06/08   119.   Hezbollah Should Give Sign That Soldiers are Alive 05:17  |  Johan Odin 24/06/08   120.   good decision 05:32  |  Castor Troy 24/06/08   121.   Suppose the strangest happens 05:35  |  Tosefta 24/06/08   122.   #7 - The IDF reenacted their capture within hours 06:06  |  Rebekah S 24/06/08   123.   why now indeed? 06:19  |  rm 24/06/08   124.   One is Probably Alive 06:28  |  Bernie 24/06/08   125.   Tosefta 06:36  |  TonyL 24/06/08   126.   I`m Surprised That Nasrallah Is Still Alive 06:41  |  Yosemite 24/06/08   127.   Peter, Do Gazan Babies Count? 06:47  |  Reader 24/06/08   128.   So Hezbollah FAILED IN THEIR ATTEMPT to capture 06:52  |  ROBOCOP 24/06/08   129.   BS Politicians 07:33  |  Mark of Lewiston 24/06/08   130.   THEY ARE ALIVE, PROBABLY NOT SO WELL 07:59  |  indrajaya 24/06/08   131.   Hizbullah trading in human body parts 08:00  |  singtothebreeze 24/06/08   132.   #113, Tosefta, forget it 08:22  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 24/06/08   133.   #6 Clickfool 08:22  |  geoff 24/06/08   134.   #116, Tosefta, no one is pressuring the rabbi 08:29  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 24/06/08   135.   Welcome to HEZBANON 08:30  |  Dan 24/06/08   136.   #129, Mark of Lewiston 08:33  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 24/06/08   137.   Hadi - you`ve got it backwards: 1000 dead, proud Lebanese 08:34  |  Joe Sittizen 24/06/08   138.   Israel Soldiers 08:35  |  Flori 24/06/08   139.   Indrajaya, I FEEL SICK TO SEE HOW YOUR COUNTRY 08:36  |  Dan 24/06/08   140.   #123, "why now indeed?" 08:37  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 24/06/08   141.   In this world of pathetic lefties 08:40  |  Shame 24/06/08   142.   Mark Lincoln #86 about life and death 08:43  |  S 24/06/08   143.   MORE VICTIMS OF ISRAEL`S ANY SOLDIER LEFT BEHIND POLICY 08:49  |  PalestniansAreA Myth 24/06/08   144.   The best answer, kill Kutar and exchange the cofffins 09:08  |  maurice 24/06/08   145.   #48 PETER SM, Cluelessness without peer. 09:25  |  Johnboy 24/06/08   146.   It`s an absolute disgrace that Israel hasn`t managed to get back 09:26  |  Hermine 24/06/08   147.   Shalit, yes. Goldwasser and Regev, no 09:41  |  Clickfool 24/06/08   148.   Kuntar for signs of life 10:50  |  observer 24/06/08   149.   #98 BEN JABO - another poster child for cluelessness 10:50  |  Johnboy 24/06/08   150.   CJK #134 needs a break 11:08  |  Roo 24/06/08   151.   JOHNBOY verbose without sense. 11:49  |  PETER SM 24/06/08   152.   To Ghina #105 in response from the behalf of Hadi 11:51  |  Ali 24/06/08   153.   You`re flattering them, Johnboy # 149 12:13  |  Clickfool 24/06/08   154.   #149 Johnboy is unable to differentiate 12:20  |  * BEN JABO 24/06/08   155.   Exchange prisoners in eqal physical conditions 12:23  |  * BEN JABO 24/06/08   156.   Indrajaya`s sensibility... 12:33  |  Ulf 24/06/08   157.   #152 And BEN JABO is unable to see the spin... 13:05  |  Johnboy 24/06/08   158.   The all-telling "No sign of life" 13:13  |  Free Gilad Shalit 24/06/08   159.   # 154, ULF 13:28  |  indrajaya 24/06/08   160.   propaganda 14:34  |  ron 24/06/08   161.   Olmert MUST go! 14:34  |  Jewish State 24/06/08   162.   I really hope they are alive 14:36  |  Chris Linthwaite 24/06/08   163.   olmert`s dilemna 14:37  |  ron 24/06/08   164.   olmert, barak,vilnai,livni: politics as usual 14:54  |  Arie 24/06/08   165.   people get the government they deserve 14:59  |  winston churchill 24/06/08   166.   Why shouldn`t Israel kill their prisoners?? 15:15  |  ScotGuy 24/06/08   167.   FAKE INDRAJAYA 154 15:30  |  indrajaya 24/06/08   168.   # 129 Mark of Lewiston...There are American 15:34  |  Lynn 24/06/08   169.   could be no "deal" to scuttle--dead is dead 15:36  |  Paul Freedman 24/06/08   170.   Linthwaite, not rally, you really hope they are dead 15:41  |  Dan 24/06/08   171.   ONE THOUSAND JEWS RELEASED FOR ONE LOUSY ARAB 15:43  |  DAV zee 24/06/08   172.   WHY DOESN`T ISRAEL WITHOLD INFO ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT CAPTURED LEB 15:44  |  Ari 24/06/08   173.   Hezbollah cannot and will not give sign of life 15:44  |  Dror 24/06/08   174.   Dead kidnapped soldiers 15:55  |  Yiannis Kareklas 24/06/08   175.   Buried alive by Olmert 15:57  |  Clickfool 24/06/08   176.   Who ruined Lebanon? 16:02  |  mustafa 24/06/08   177.   the release of samir al kuntar without news on ron arad 16:06  |  yudke 24/06/08   178.   Existential difficulty - application of Jewish values to 16:07  |  17 24/06/08   179.   the hypocrite and jew hating clickfool 16:10  |  yudke 24/06/08   180.   They are no longer alive 16:12  |  Gilles 24/06/08   181.   clickfool is worried about the "kin "of the powsi 16:12  |  yudke 24/06/08   182.   clickfool "what does this tell the idf" 16:15  |  yudke 24/06/08   183.   clickfool "you are one of the po faced hardliners indifferent 16:21  |  yudke 24/06/08   184.   # 175 Clicky.....your gov caved to Iran 16:21  |  Lynn 24/06/08   185.   #170 Dan 16:22  |  Chris Linthwaite 24/06/08   186.   THIS WAS KNOWN SEVERAL 16:23  |  Robert 24/06/08   187.   clickfool taunts the jews 16:24  |  yudke 24/06/08   188.   clickfool "hizballah are darker" 16:27  |  yudke 24/06/08   189.   #177 rudke 16:28  |  Paul Wood 24/06/08   190.   did anyone hear clickfool mention the names 16:35  |  yudke 24/06/08   191.   Jewish arrogance: 16:36  |  17 24/06/08   192.   179 Yudke - agreed 100% 16:43  |  ScotGuy 24/06/08   193.   Soldiers dead then no exchange 16:45  |  Vitali 24/06/08   194.   paul wood 16:58  |  avihai 24/06/08   195.   It seems unlikely they are alive since... 17:01  |  Avi 24/06/08   196.   clickfool why would you even think of taunting israel 17:01  |  yudke 24/06/08   197.   #190 paul wood 17:14  |  Sarah 24/06/08   198.   Samir Kuntar 17:20  |  Hadi 24/06/08   199.   If these soldiers are dead then Israel should make 17:23  |  Ironsocks 24/06/08   200.   Of Course They are Dead 17:24  |  Jane 24/06/08   201.   clickfool 17:29  |  THE TEACHER/INSTRUCT 24/06/08   202.   #196 Yudke 17:31  |  Chris Linthwaite 24/06/08   203.   yudke 17:40  |  Sarah 24/06/08   204.   No to this nonsense deal 17:47  |  J K 24/06/08   205.   yudke#196 -codswallop 18:09  |  Bubke 24/06/08   206.   yudke#196 -codswallop 18:09  |  Bubke 24/06/08   207.   Troops held by Hezbollah dead 18:11  |  Steve Gure 24/06/08   208.   Considerations on an exchange deal 18:12  |  Tosefta 24/06/08   209.   Savage killing of a child merits no release 18:28  |  Joe Frazier 24/06/08   210.   Hadi 18:46  |  Gina 24/06/08   211.   chris linthwaite and british prisoners in iraq. 18:47  |  yudke 24/06/08   212.   ISRAEL`S SPYMASTERS. 18:49  |  LJF-CANADA 24/06/08   213.   # 4 Durson comment 18:51  |  ernie 24/06/08   214.   chris linthwaite"we only go after them if they start killing 18:52  |  yudke 24/06/08   215.   chris linthwaite "we have seen videos" 18:54  |  yudke 24/06/08   216.   Naturally - No deal. Since Hezbolla is considered 18:54  |  17 24/06/08   217.   168 Lynn - Politicians Have No Morals 18:56  |  Mark of Lewiston 24/06/08   218.   Abducted soldiers 18:58  |  Ralph 24/06/08   219.   If Israel has now declared Goldwasser and Negev dead.... 19:00  |  Clickfool 24/06/08   220.   codswallop bubke 19:07  |  yudke 24/06/08   221.   Hadi #198 19:10  |  Dror 24/06/08   222.   Give back Kuntar but in a coffer as they do piece by piece 19:26  |  Daniel 24/06/08   223.   to Noor on Hizbullah 19:30  |  Alex 24/06/08   224.   Hadi 19:31  |  Alex 24/06/08   225.   No, you are wrong 19:33  |  Keops 24/06/08   226.   #184 Oh Cupcake, Lynn 19:34  |  ballistic 24/06/08   227.   disappointing news for Yiannis 19:38  |  Alex 24/06/08   228.   Kutar should have been hanged years ago 19:38  |  Sid 24/06/08   229.   Kuntar should be put to death 19:42  |  Dror 24/06/08   230.   #198 To blood thirsty Hadi 19:43  |  Sarah 24/06/08   231.   Hadi 20:03  |  Doron 24/06/08   232.   Some more considerations, Tosefta 20:11  |  Jacob Blues 24/06/08   233.   Tosefta, #208 20:13  |  Michael 24/06/08   234.   Tosefta, a second consideration 20:17  |  Jacob Blues 24/06/08   235.   #`s 205 & 206 Bubke(s) 20:20  |  Jehiel Chaleff 24/06/08   236.   clickfool the hypocrite 20:29  |  Harry 24/06/08   237.   THEY ARE KILLED BY IDF CHIEF RABBI 20:31  |  Tayfun_Turkey 24/06/08   238.   ok for once a sober message from tosefta 20:36  |  yudke 24/06/08   239.   Bullhorns For Israel, Bombletts for Lebanon. 20:37  |  Gray 24/06/08   240.   johnboy to olmert "so swap them baldie" 20:40  |  yudke 24/06/08   241.   johnboy "more valuable to him then two idf soldiers" 20:44  |  yudke 24/06/08   242.   johnboy "olmert would rather see these boys dead" 20:49  |  yudke 24/06/08   243.   Mark Lincoln-Perhaps They Know More Than You 20:51  |  Jane 24/06/08   244.   johnboy the palestinians will never be released 20:54  |  yudke 24/06/08   245.   Ali -you Arabs are delusional - something to do 20:54  |  ChanahS 24/06/08   246.   "Land for Peace" with Hezbollah 20:55  |  Scharker Yid 24/06/08   247.   Fair is Fair !!!!!!!! 20:58  |  Erez 24/06/08   248.   For Harry # 210 21:20  |  Clickfool 24/06/08   249.   It`s a miracle!!! Resurrection!!! 21:24  |  Clickfool 24/06/08   250.   Sorry Hadi, but we don`t have any Samir Kuntars here 21:26  |  Joe Sittizen 24/06/08   251.   The price of knowledge (Michael #232) 21:55  |  Tosefta 24/06/08   252.   clickgfool "whats the point of hizballah keeping them alive" 21:55  |  yudke 24/06/08   253.   clickfool you make us your business 22:02  |  yudke 24/06/08   254.   #31 Ali..orry we Kicked Your Butt.Can You Count? 22:08  |  KATHY 24/06/08   255.   #248, fool 22:23  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 24/06/08   256.   No live Israeli prisoners ever... 22:38  |  Ezequiel Levy 24/06/08   257.   tosefta "the mo of hizballah" 22:42  |  avihai 24/06/08   258.   #108 Alberto Cohen 22:54  |  A Jew 24/06/08   259.   FOR YUDKE 23:46  |  Brant 24/06/08   260.   Dealing with Dracula 23:51  |  FOX 24/06/08   261.   brant of hilton head 00:11  |  yudke 25/06/08   262.   Jane, perhaps they DO know more, but . . 00:11  |  Mark Lincoln 25/06/08   263.   Jane - playing with lives 00:25  |  Mark Lincoln 25/06/08   264.   every child is precious 00:38  |  ClearCut 25/06/08   265.   #96 Johnboy He Told You,He Told You.ButYou Don`t Listen 00:40  |  anonymous 25/06/08   266.   who is samir al kuntar and why he must never be released 01:08  |  yudke 25/06/08   267.   # 185Linthwaite, 01:17  |  Dan 25/06/08   268.   #3264 Anonymous, you are a waste of space 01:31  |  Johnboy 25/06/08   269.   Mark Lincoln, stop playing games 01:42  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 25/06/08   270.   #245 Chanah, well you don`t have a moral 01:47  |  ballistic 25/06/08   271.   Tosefta - Hizbollah`s rules of conduct 01:47  |  Mark Lincoln 25/06/08   272.   I AM SORRY TO SAY... BUT 01:48  |  indrajaya 25/06/08   273.   Mark Lincoln #262 02:18  |  Free Gilad Shalit 25/06/08   274.   Clearcut 263 Precious children 02:26  |  Free Gilad Shalit 25/06/08   275.   # 237 Tayfun from Turkey...would it surprise you 02:40  |  Lynn 25/06/08   276.   #157 Johnboy can`t differentiate between murder & war 02:48  |  * BEN JABO 25/06/08   277.   4# Natallie Durson :What brings this sudden change of heart ? 02:48  |  Akram Zekaria 25/06/08   278.   # 205 Î Bubke..You Are A Proper Cod`s Wallop.Eat it And Choke 03:05  |  anonymous 25/06/08   279.   # 57 J..Good For You and best thing ever said. 03:21  |  anonymous 25/06/08   280.   # 4 ooohh Nati D Agrees How nice... 03:29  |  anonymous 25/06/08   281.   165# Winston Churchill: Not when Israel is a Jewish State. 03:39  |  Akram Zekaria 25/06/08   282.   Kuntar`s relase should be approved by ben jabo ben tize 03:50  |  Aounist 25/06/08   283.   #117 Helpless Lebanese.To Ali hadi,imad 03:55  |  anonymous 25/06/08   284.   GRA Arab cluster munitions not bullhorns were fired at Israel 04:09  |  PETER SM 25/06/08   285.   Akram Zekaria: Why the Surprise? 04:24  |  Gray 25/06/08   286.   Mark Lincoln # 262 That Is Not Necessarily The Case 04:33  |  Jeff Northridge 25/06/08   287.   #268 ARE THERE NO NEWSPAPERS IN INDONESIA ? 04:36  |  Avrum 25/06/08   288.   The right and moral thing to do 06:38  |  Joe 25/06/08   289.   #270 BEN JABO`s laughable knee-jerking 07:00  |  Johnboy 25/06/08   290.   #251 Or Olmert is being Machiavellian 07:15  |  Johnboy 25/06/08   291.   #267, MarkL, "perhaps bloodstains were never tested for DNA" 07:20  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 25/06/08   292.   #273, manic john 09:28  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 25/06/08   293.   johnboy those posts were particularly meaningless 10:23  |  meir 25/06/08   294.   Cipora, in usual unsmiling, tight-arsed form # 276 10:40  |  Clickfool 25/06/08   295.   that the worst expectations be wrong; should be everyone`s hope! 12:13  |  eric 25/06/08   296.   #276 Cipora: Shhhhhh! It Is A State Secret! 13:35  |  Johnboy 25/06/08   297.   #273 Johnboy just keep on repeating non-facts 15:03  |  * BEN JABO 25/06/08   298.   #117 Helpless Lebanese..To Ali,Hadi,Imad Etc.(From Yesterday) 15:07  |  KATHY 25/06/08   299.   # 198 Hadi and Kuntar What hero? 15:16  |  KATHY 25/06/08   300.   #279 BEN`s knee goes a` bouncin` up `n` down 15:51  |  Johnboy 25/06/08   301.   Johnboy boringly repeats himself 16:20  |  * BEN JABO 25/06/08   302.   #279-2 Johnboy - You equated BJ with BJ 16:59  |  * BEN JABO 25/06/08   303.   # 290 Johnboy..If *BEN JABO Is a Blow Job,Then You Are. 17:04  |  KATHY 25/06/08   304.   # 286 JB To Cipora.***sigh*** 17:19  |  KATHY 25/06/08   305.   #295 Eric - Hardly likely 17:45  |  * BEN JABO 25/06/08   306.   285# Gray: Todays truth is not yesterday`s facts. 19:03  |  Akram Zekaria 25/06/08   307.   # 96 johnboy From yesterday.just sow your repost.Back atcha! 19:48  |  anonymous 25/06/08   308.   # 306 Akram Zekaria..Why waste time with that morose Gray?Nutalie 19:54  |  KATHY 25/06/08   309.   #304, Kathy 21:10  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 25/06/08   310.   # 309 Cipora J.K JB I think he must be.... 00:34  |  KATHY 26/06/08   311.   308# Kath. I said I was surprised ! 04:18  |  Akram Zekaria 26/06/08   312.   #310, Kathy 07:45  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 26/06/08   313.   #303 KATHY makes me laugh! 07:47  |  Johnboy 26/06/08   314.   #311, Akram Zekaria 07:49  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 26/06/08   315.   #304 I spoke too soon, KATHY 08:03  |  Johnboy 26/06/08   316.   # 312 forgive me for interceding, johnboy 09:10  |  eric 26/06/08   317.   #316 Point taken, eric, as far as it goes. 12:02  |  Johnboy 26/06/08   318.   #317, john, it is beyond even conjecture 13:09  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 26/06/08   319.   #309 Say Kathy re Gray 18:14  |  ballistic 26/06/08   320.   #319 Pointing out a few things to Cippie 03:09  |  Johnboy 27/06/08   321.   #20, manic john 06:29  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 27/06/08   322.   # 317 begging to differ again, johnboy 08:41  |  eric 27/06/08   323.   #321 I guess I need to point out something 10:09  |  Johnboy 27/06/08   324.   to Peter what about the Lebanese men and Palas men 10:14  |  gus 27/06/08   325.   Gus - Let`s just add a bit to what you say 17:03  |  * BEN JABO 27/06/08

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