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Obama and Jerusalem: did you really believe him?

This is going to be a short blog entry.

Short, because there's nothing much to say.

Barack Obama had a good speech yesterday at AIPAC. One can even argue: a very good speech. He said all the right things, and then added some more. He also said this:

"Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided".

Some Palestinian leaders have decided to make a big deal out of it. A cynic might suspect that Palestinian anger is not exactly something Obama wanted to avoid, as it will help him get rid of the Hamas-supports-Obama title that John McCain was using against him. Whether it was planned or not - it worked.

It always works with Arab leaders.

And with Jewish leaders too.

Note this: Obama did not say that Jerusalem will only be Israel's capital. He did not say it, because he does not believe this can be the outcome of negotiations, and anyway, does anyone really think that Obama, with no warning, has suddenly decided to prejudge the outcome of an Israeli Palestinian peace process, and rule, decisively, in favor of Israel?

Apparently, some people do - or pretended they do. These include the Palestinian leadership, always ready to ventilate grievances and "Jewish lobby" conspiracy theories - and also some Jewish leaders. Yesterday, the Jewish leaders involved (most notably from the Orthodox Union) were trying to pretend that Obama was promising an undivided Jerusalem to Israel and nothing to the Palestinians. Today they are trying to pretend that they are shocked and amazed to discover that this was not Obama's intention.

Here is the truth (I promised this will be a short entry):

Either they are very stupid, and don't understand Obama at all.

Or they are very smart, and are just playing with Obama's words because they like the imaginary message better than the real one.

Since I know most of them personally I can tell you this: they aren't stupid.

Update: in What To Read you can read why the OU is now happy again with Obama's position

  1.   Where is the Israel Factor when you need it?! 16:25  |  NOT!! 06/06/08
  2.   Move the United States Embassy to Jerusalem? 18:18  |  Johnny Weintraub 06/06/08
  3.   speech 18:53  |  brianjohnson 06/06/08
  4.   believe him... 19:10  |  Shmuelshachor 06/06/08
  5.   He said what they wanted to hear . . . 19:14  |  SDHD 06/06/08
  6.   No Honest Broker before 2013 19:23  |  KenB 06/06/08
  7.   Obama Said What He Said, Mr. Shmuel Rosner 19:50  |  Jeff Northridge 06/06/08
  8.   no news here: exactly same position as McCain 20:03  |  Proudest Zionist 06/06/08
  9.   Obama and Jerusalem 20:32  |  Sharon Kahn 06/06/08
  10.   # 9 Sharon Kahn....his handlers have spent 20:51  |  Lynn 06/06/08
  11.   In other words, Obama`s doubletalk was pure nonsense 21:09  |  McQueen 06/06/08
  12.   Obama, a less experienced version of Clinton 21:38  |  Nathaniel 06/06/08
  13.   Obama grovelling before AIPAC! 21:38  |  lakshmi 06/06/08
  14.   Israeli MKs right and left engage in identical "doubletalk" 21:40  |  Proudest Zionist 06/06/08
  15.   They put on their political burkas before entering. 22:02  |  ManintheMiddle 06/06/08
  16.   obama staff clarifies the candidate statement 23:10  |  paulo2005 06/06/08
  17.   #13 Lakshmi 00:26  |  ballistic 07/06/08
  18.   The Gullible and J Street Type Sellouts Love Obama 00:26  |  Tod Zuckerman 07/06/08
  19.   Mr. Zuckerman, your naivete never ceases to amaze us 01:42  |  Proudest Zionist 07/06/08
  20.   obama like the others will say anyting to get elected 02:48  |  byron 07/06/08
  21.   No! He`s just talking the talk to win the Presidency.. 03:28  |  PK 07/06/08
  22.   Obama torpedoes the Palestinian State 05:07  |  david singer 07/06/08
  23.   Just Believe 09:12  |  Zoe 07/06/08
  24.   Obama Aipac Speech 09:13  |  joanne aloni 07/06/08
  25.   Who fires the rockets again? 09:57  |  Ron Paul 07/06/08
  26.   Fantastic 13:21  |  Alex 07/06/08
  27.   # 13 lakshmi 14:44  |  ATLAS 07/06/08
  28.   # 14, Zionism should not be about Pride. It should be about 01:15  |  GRATITUDE 08/06/08
  29.   Undevided Israel aka One State Solution 09:44  |  Fritz T. 08/06/08
  30.   #10, Lynn, who is running for office? 10:11  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 08/06/08
  31.   ALL HE WOULD DO AFTER ELECTION IS THIS 10:27  |  indrajaya 08/06/08
  32.   The problem here is not Obama, the problem are the Israeli people 10:32  |  Swiss (Dino) 08/06/08
  33.   # 32, SWISS (DINO) 10:59  |  indrajaya 08/06/08
  34.   #32, Dino 11:06  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 08/06/08
  35.   Jeff Northridge: Obama might want direct to ONE STATE 11:09  |  Tulip 08/06/08
  36.   Never mind what Obama said. Where is Clickfool? 11:10  |  Maureen Ann 08/06/08
  37.   And like # 2 he won`t and..... 11:10  |  MDS 08/06/08
  38.   Cipora and Khalidi 11:15  |  Tulip 08/06/08
  39.   Barak HUSSEIN Obama 11:22  |  Rozz 08/06/08
  40.   No, I didn`t believe him. 11:29  |  ARA 08/06/08
  41.   #38, Tulip 11:33  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 08/06/08
  42.   A black arab as America`s next President 11:47  |  Rozz 08/06/08
  43.   American Jews should not vote for him! 12:05  |  Paul Henzen 08/06/08
  44.   # 33 indrajaya 12:21  |  Swiss (Dino) 08/06/08
  45.   # 34 Cipora Julianna Kohn 12:29  |  Swiss (Dino) 08/06/08
  46.   I would really like not believe him 13:10  |  Lobo08 08/06/08
  47.   ballistin,Maureen Ann,friends,never mind what the U.S. says,the 13:10  |  lakshmi 08/06/08
  48.   Guilt by association Cipora #30 13:44  |  John Syracuse 08/06/08
  49.   #45, Dino 13:54  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 08/06/08
  50.   Believe him as far as you can throw him 13:58  |  dyinglikeflies 08/06/08
  51.   People Get Ready...or maybe not 14:01  |  Ronnie Wolman 08/06/08
  52.   What more would you expect? 14:07  |  Dutch 08/06/08
  53.   Obama wanted to sound good 14:13  |  Tosefta 08/06/08
  54.   # 49 Cipora # 51 Ronnie Wolman 14:35  |  Swiss (Dino) 08/06/08
  55.   IT AINT OVER TIL THE FAT LADY SINGS. 14:38  |  petra 08/06/08
  56.   There is a difference between dividing or sharing. 14:48  |  Stephen. 08/06/08
  57.   Obama and Israel 15:00  |  Hilda 08/06/08
  58.   Dutch 15:00  |  H 08/06/08
  59.   No, I don`t believe Obama! I shall only believe his intent when 15:23  |  Jack 08/06/08
  60.   Black Arab (Rozz #42) 15:44  |  Warren J 08/06/08
  61.   Dino: Wheres England? 15:52  |  Ronnie Wolman 08/06/08
  62.   Obama 16:02  |  margaret 08/06/08
  63.   Tosefta # 53 No Translation Is Necessary 16:20  |  Jeff Northridge 08/06/08
  64.   response to Ron Paul 16:23  |  Frank 08/06/08
  65.   Smnuel! What did YOU really say? 16:24  |  The Special One 08/06/08
  66.   So Tosefta was right after all 16:27  |  Mark B. 08/06/08
  67.   #32 & # 33 YOU HAVE NO SAY!!!! 16:37  |  Barry 08/06/08
  68.   Tosefta the Toothsayer 16:57  |  Ronnie Wolman 08/06/08
  69.   Yes we did -not ? 16:59  |  Sal 08/06/08
  70.   # 30 Cipora JK......I don`t believe Obama 16:59  |  Lynn 08/06/08
  71.   Hilda # 57 When Did Obama Do That? 17:03  |  Jeff Northridge 08/06/08
  72.   # 32 Swiss ....not exactly right 17:05  |  Lynn 08/06/08
  73.   # 33 Indy ...what is going on in Indonesia? 17:10  |  Lynn 08/06/08
  74.   #32 Swiss (cheese) 17:19  |  Pastor Joseph 08/06/08
  75.   # 54 Swiss...my choice would have been Richardson 17:22  |  Lynn 08/06/08
  76.   Three Cheers for Cipora Julianna 17:24  |  Pastor Joseph 08/06/08
  77.   #52 Dutch the Whirlwind in wooden shoes 17:28  |  Pastor Joseph 08/06/08
  78.   Now that your hat is off... (Michael B #62) 17:33  |  Tosefta 08/06/08
  79.   # 61 Ronnie Wolman 17:34  |  Swiss (Dino) 08/06/08
  80.   # 68, LYNN 17:37  |  indrajaya 08/06/08
  81.   # 67 Lynn 17:44  |  Swiss (Dino) 08/06/08
  82.   # 67 Lynn 17:45  |  Swiss (Dino) 08/06/08
  83.   # 67 Lynn 17:45  |  Swiss (Dino) 08/06/08
  84.   Swiss and The "Crazy Chrisitian Right" 18:16  |  Pastor Joseph 08/06/08
  85.   Swiss and The "Crazy Chrisitian Right" 18:16  |  Pastor Joseph 08/06/08
  86.   why not 18:17  |  albert paul ortiz 08/06/08
  87.   Obama speach 18:18  |  Walid 08/06/08
  88.   Obama is not to be trusted 18:38  |  Dror 08/06/08
  89.   # 61 Ronnie Wolman 18:40  |  Swiss (Dino) 08/06/08
  90.   obama at aipac and the fate of Israel 18:43  |  davies fatunmishe 08/06/08
  91.   # 74 Swiss...yes, I am very sure 18:45  |  Lynn 08/06/08
  92.   # 70 "Pastor" Joseph 18:46  |  Swiss (Dino) 08/06/08
  93.   Shmuel,what are you saying? Obama is a liar? 18:55  |  Toronto`s Finest 08/06/08
  94.   # 71 Lynn 19:00  |  Swiss (Dino) 08/06/08
  95.   #75 Pastor Joseph 19:07  |  Mark B. 08/06/08
  96.   Obama`s AIPAC Speech...Standing.. 19:08  |  Jimmy 08/06/08
  97.   Pastor Joseph, America is more a fat nation 19:12  |  Mark B. 08/06/08
  98.   #75 So called Pastor Joseph 19:14  |  Labhras 08/06/08
  99.   Where is Clickfool? 19:18  |  Mark B. 08/06/08
  100.   "A GOOD SPEECH" ? 19:19  |  Gray 08/06/08
  101.   Reagan ran a superpower relying just on his aids 19:19  |  AliciaYasmeen 08/06/08
  102.   # 69, LYNN 19:20  |  indrajaya 08/06/08
  103.   #61 Ronnie Wolman, Obama meant the qualifications 19:23  |  Mark B. 08/06/08
  104.   Excavations have shown NO LINK to Jews in Jerusalem! 19:40  |  Matthew 08/06/08
  105.   And I find your posts boring, Mark B., 19:41  |  Freethinker 08/06/08
  106.   to Walid re moving embassy 19:41  |  Hilda 08/06/08
  107.   Did somebody here bump off Clicky? 19:47  |  Aphemia