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Last update - 00:00 25/05/2008
Palestinians reject Israeli offer to hand over 91.5% of W. Bank
By The Associated Press
Tags: Ehud Olmert 

Palestinian officials close to peace talks said Sunday that Israel has offered a West Bank withdrawal map that leaves about 8.5 percent of the territory in Israeli hands, less than a previous plan but still more than the Palestinians are ready to accept.

Also Sunday, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas was quoted as telling backers that the negotiations have achieved no progress since they were restarted last November with a pledge to U.S. President George W. Bush to try for a full peace treaty by the end of the year.

The Palestinian officials said Israel presented its new map three days ago in a negotiating session. The last map Israel offered had 12 percent of the West Bank remaining in Israel. Israel wants to keep West Bank land with its main settlement blocs, offering land inside Israel in exchange. The land would be between Hebron in the southern West Bank and Gaza - at least part of a route through Israel to link the two territories.
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The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because the negotiations are being conducted behind closed doors, said Palestinians were ready to trade only 1.8 percent of the West Bank for Israeli land.

Israeli officials refused to comment.

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has said that progress has been made in several areas, but he refused to give details out of concern for harming the negotiations.

The differences in evaluations have a wide range of possible explanations.

Abbas needs to show quick concrete results from the talks to persuade his skeptical people that the negotiations are worthwhile - but he complained that while the talks drag on, Israel continues construction in its West Bank settlements and maintains its network of security roadblocks and checkpoints that have choked off economic and social life there.

On the Israeli side, Olmert needs success to shore up his sagging domestic popularity, stung by his inconclusive war in Lebanon in 2006 and harmed further by a string of corruption cases. He was interrogated in the latest one on Friday. Olmert insists that at least a declaration of principles is attainable by the target date.

One of the Palestinian officials said the 8.5 percent figure of West Bank land Israel would retain with its new map does not include east Jerusalem, where Israel has built a string of Jewish neighborhoods it intends to keep. Israel wants to put off dealing with Jerusalem, possibly the touchiest issue on the table, until the end of the process. Israel's previous proposal to keep 12 percent did not include east Jerusalem, either.

Abbas indicated skepticism about the prospects of the renewed talks.

Nothing has been achieved in the negotiations with Israel yet, Abbas told a meeting of the Fatah Revolutionary Council, according to a report Sunday in the Fatah-associated al-Ayyam daily and confirmed by meeting participants.

"Domestic issues in both Israel and the U.S. are diverting attention from peacemaking," Abbas told Fatah leaders.

"I fear the (corruption) probe against Olmert and the American preoccupation with the (presidential) elections will negatively affect the negotiations," Abbas said, according to a member of the council, Salah Taameri.

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      1.   GIVE IT ALL BACK... 20:28  |  ravi 25/05/08
      2.   counter by saying we keep more 20:55  |  vik 25/05/08
      3.   fools 21:10  |  ka 25/05/08
      4.   "Negotiations" 21:13  |  17 25/05/08
      5.   why should they accept? 21:14  |  Ivan 25/05/08
      6.   not an inch 01:04  |  alan 26/05/08
      7.   Compromise? 02:36  |  Tom 26/05/08
      8.   Offer them 7.5% and see if they agree 02:40  |  Darth Zaider (Ed) 26/05/08
      9.   Stop Negotiating 02:40  |  Zack 26/05/08
      10.   % does not matter 02:41  |  gordon 26/05/08
      11.   PROGRESS 02:52  |  Mark of Lewiston 26/05/08
      12.   ALL OR WAR? it`s israels choice 03:34  |  VIPER 26/05/08
      13.   Can Israel reciprocate with an equally large area? 03:57  |  Fortuna Benmayor 26/05/08
      14.   Details ? 03:59  |  Truth 26/05/08
      15.   Take 8.5-12% off table, make 20% final offer. NO "safe passage"! 04:07  |  Dr. L. Brnd 26/05/08
      16.   stop the posturing 04:29  |  jake 26/05/08
      17.   Have sympathy for the Pals: Imagine negotiating with JEWS! 04:46  |  Funny 26/05/08
      18.   Israel 04:48  |  The Gentile 26/05/08
      19.   1967 line was never meant to be a border 04:59  |  Free Gilad Shalit 26/05/08
      20.   Hamas could see the writing on the (apartheid) wall. 05:27  |  Maureen Ann 26/05/08
      21.   The pals should either get 100% of w bank or else ally with iran 06:03  |  Aounist 26/05/08
      22.   Israel should say give 40% land or we raid Gaza! 06:07  |  Magnify 26/05/08
      23.   Negotiations? 06:25  |  Gershon Reed 26/05/08
      24.   the gentle 06:36  |  northern neighbor 26/05/08
      25.   #3 ka They want it all??? 06:42  |  Jim 26/05/08
      26.   #6 Fortuna Benmayor 06:54  |  Jim 26/05/08
      27.   #7 Truth 07:08  |  Jim 26/05/08
      28.   #8 Dr. L. Brnd 07:37  |  Jim 26/05/08
      29.   #10 Funny 07:43  |  Jim 26/05/08
      30.   #11 The Gentile 07:52  |  Jim 26/05/08
      31.   occupation 07:57  |  E 26/05/08
      32.   Palestinians shouldn`t feel any urge to accept Israel`s offer 08:26  |  Dutch 26/05/08
      33.   PROGRESS 08:58  |  Mark of Lewiston 26/05/08
      34.   NOTHING BELONGS TO THE ARABS 10:07  |  Yishai Kohen 26/05/08
      35.   #8 Dr. L. Brnd - yet another "oracle" from the USA. 10:20  |  PADDY 26/05/08
      36.   #12 Free Gilad Shalit - Free Palestinian kids from Israeli prison 10:30  |  PADDY 26/05/08
      37.   Judea and Samaria belong to the Jews 10:31  |  Leah 26/05/08
      38.   the only acceptable offer is one that leaves Israel vulnerable... 10:32  |  registered nurse 26/05/08
      39.   50-50 is the only fair solution 10:35  |  Dr Eric 26/05/08
      40.   Abraham bought the land for the Jews 10:37  |  lisa 26/05/08
      41.   the arabs and cloud cuckoo land demnands prevail 10:52  |  victor hardman 26/05/08
      42.   #32 doris the law professor cadigan and total crap again 10:57  |  victor hardman 26/05/08
      43.   All or nothing 11:07  |  JR 26/05/08
      44.   By giving more land to the Arabs 11:10  |  Michael 26/05/08
      45.   To "Ivan" #5..are you sure you live in Haifa? 11:18  |  spade 26/05/08
      46.   the palestinians are never fair. They want want and want. 11:28  |  J 26/05/08
      47.   Hand over 100% and rent back 12% for 100 years 11:38  |  Trond Sorvoja 26/05/08
      48.   Jim from Murfreesboro, Tn, USA 11:50  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 26/05/08
      49.   No Negotiations with Palestinian TERROR 11:51  |  James 26/05/08
      50.   Palestinians reject Israeli offer to hand over 91.5% of W. Bank 11:51  |  Chris 26/05/08
      51.   Official Partition Plans 12:14  |  Joseph 26/05/08
      52.   They steal and want to negotiate back what they stole 12:20  |  El-Birawi 26/05/08
      53.   #51, Joseph, Read the British white paper 1922 12:24  |  A Bethlehemite 26/05/08
      54.   That`s right Lisa, Arab`s need to come to acceptance!!! 12:59  |  But why should they? 26/05/08
      55.   No military capable of occupying whole Gaza 13:39  |  The Archives 26/05/08
      56.   Paddy, strange thing about DNA 13:55  |  jackie 26/05/08
      57.   How Much Will It take To Secure Peace? 14:03  |  Moshe 26/05/08
      58.   Alan - and the home of the Jews is.... 14:18  |  Palestinian Brit 26/05/08
      59.   abraham brought the land for the jews / Amen 14:29  |  eve 26/05/08
      60.   what is wrong with Israel?? 14:45  |  Barb 26/05/08
      61.   It is not up to Israel to grant statehood to Palestine 15:00  |  Natallie Durson 26/05/08
      62.   #60 what is wrong with Israel?? 15:01  |  Gerald Zang 26/05/08
      63.   what is wrong with israel? = Israel ofcourse! 15:05  |  EVE 26/05/08
      64.   not an inch 15:17  |  Moshe 26/05/08
      65.   It is not up to Israel/ nataliie 15:17  |  eve 26/05/08
      66.   Palestinian Brit: Your Home? Uranus. 15:29  |  Tex 26/05/08
      67.   "Palestinians" Rejecting Peace Again 15:33  |  Tex 26/05/08
      68.   Aounist: Just Get Rid of Israel 15:34  |  Tex 26/05/08
      69.   From Time Immemorial = HOAX 15:45  |  eve 26/05/08
      70.   #13 A 1:1 swap, Fortuna? 15:49  |  Johnboy 26/05/08
      71.   Israelis: colonalist and racists to the very inch! 15:51  |  eve 26/05/08
      72.   Another state for these people. 16:14  |  Sam C 26/05/08
      73.   The Philistines Gave Up ALL Claims LONG Ago 16:16  |  Yishai Kohen 26/05/08
      74.   "For a few dollars more" 16:25  |  Danite 26/05/08
      75.   #71 eve 16:32  |  Moshe 26/05/08
      76.   #1 they don`t want it back 16:44  |  Walter 26/05/08
      77.   Funny asking "have you ever met one " 16:54  |  Avrum 26/05/08
      78.   #1 + #76 Yes yes, israel has to go 100% 16:55  |  eve 26/05/08
      79.   Viper- blind hisser 17:01  |  Avrum 26/05/08
      80.   Pal Brit-and the home of the Arabs is.... 17:06  |  pema 26/05/08
      81.   #61 nutullie distorts history and makes a false case 17:06  |  victor hardman 26/05/08
      82.   Ravi and the rest of you 17:09  |  George 26/05/08
      83.   UN rulings and other 17:11  |  Said 26/05/08
      84.   Eve a new addition 17:20  |  George 26/05/08
      85.   #52 - El-Birawi - That cuts both ways 17:22  |  Elihu 26/05/08
      86.   Wake up Israel / USA & Be honest Arabs 17:23  |  US 26/05/08
      87.   a bird in the bush worth two in the hand 17:28  |  peter 26/05/08
      88.   GIVE ALL THE LAND BACK AND A FULL COMPENSATION 17:30  |  indrajaya 26/05/08
      89.   It`s important to pay close attention to what Palestinian... 17:33  |  Jean Van Daem 26/05/08
      90.   El-Birawi dazed and confused 17:34  |  peter 26/05/08
      91.   100% Withdrawal 17:37  |  Cool B 26/05/08
      92.   territory 17:40  |  Shmuelshachor 26/05/08
      93.   This debate has an end 17:42  |  Najeh 26/05/08
      94.   #61 NUTTILY for once is correct 17:49  |  Ari ben Yisrael 26/05/08
      95.   Flexibility is a virtue Pals do not have. 17:52  |  AliciaYasmeen 26/05/08
      96.   1967 17:57  |  m 26/05/08
      97.   Sorry Pals but that`s the best you gonna get 17:57  |  Ari ben Yisrael 26/05/08
      98.   91.5% 17:58  |  Michael Wildman 26/05/08
      99.   Palestinian State 18:01  |  Khalil 26/05/08
      100.   Zack – Honesty comes first! 18:02  |  RW 26/05/08
      101.   Arabs - Raiders of the Middle East 18:07  |  Mkhem 26/05/08
      102.   TO Funny 18:15  |  Carol 26/05/08
      103.   Torah is a legal land title document 18:17  |  gil 26/05/08
      104.   TO VIPER australia 18:23  |  RW 26/05/08
      105.   It is all smoke and mirrors 18:32  |  Harold 26/05/08
      106.   Of course they only want death to Jews and Israel not peace! 18:37  |  Avram 26/05/08
      107.   #88 Indrayaja, what are you talking about? 18:39  |  AliciaYasmeen 26/05/08
      108.   DON`T 18:44  |  THE TEACHER/INSTRUCT 26/05/08
      109.   Gil #103 the torah and the taliban 18:49  |  American in NY 26/05/08
      110.   Once more Arabs prove it they want it all. 18:49  |  RW 26/05/08
      111.   To #68 Tex:The iranian pressure is making you talk peace with ara 18:52  |  Aounist 26/05/08
      112.   These percentages ignore the Jordan strip 18:54  |  Rowan 26/05/08
      113.   Fast convergence: from 12% to 8.5% in one week 18:57  |  Tosefta 26/05/08
      114.   Raed Kami #111 19:06  |  Brett 26/05/08
      115.   #111 Every Israeli? 19:09  |  Walter 26/05/08
      116.   Pals waiting for Israel to offer 1967 borders and right of return 19:13  |  Sam 26/05/08
      117.   crazy israelis 19:17  |  alfredo 26/05/08
      118.   RAED KAMI-one rule for you and one for the jews 19:20  |  pema 26/05/08
      119.   Najeh & Khalil 19:26  |  LOVE THE JEWS 26/05/08
      120.   Map of ancient Israel by About.com suggests Israel should have it 19:31  |  Robert Lovell 26/05/08
      121.   Definitions (Rowan #113) 19:31  |  Tosefta 26/05/08
      122.   what a joke! 19:34  |  kaled 26/05/08
      123.   All Israel has to do is leave the W Bank, completely 19:36  |  betz55 26/05/08
      124.   Israel has to give it all back 19:46  |  Concerned Individual 26/05/08
      125.   #40 Abraham didn`t buy any of it. 19:47  |  Concerened Individua 26/05/08
      126.   Israeli "offer" vs. Palestinians "rejection"? 19:50  |  ben 26/05/08
      127.   Palestinians Should Take What They Can Get.... 19:50  |  WYSIWYG 26/05/08
      128.   TO # 111 Raed Kami. A SIMPLE TEST 19:59  |  THE TEACHER/INSTRUCT 26/05/08
      129.   to Jim Obviously, Arabs want it all what is not theirs 20:06  |  Canaan 26/05/08
      130.   Negotiations?? 20:14  |  Paul 26/05/08
      131.   Israel by expanding the settlements has made it hard on itself 20:19  |  Diplomat 26/05/08
      132.   ISRAELI NEGOTIATORS ARE TRAITORS. G-D GAVE US JEWS THIS LAND!! 20:21  |  Alon chiloni 26/05/08
      133.   THE LAND IS 15KM WIDE, AND ISRAELI TRAITORS WANT ALL JEWS DEAD?? 20:23  |  Frank 26/05/08
      134.   Title is a misquote 20:33  |  Aan 26/05/08
      135.   Peace 20:34  |  Paul 26/05/08
      136.   re Dr Eric # 39`s 50-50 is only fair solution. 20:35  |  Colin Wright 26/05/08
      137.   Enought With The Game Playing 20:36  |  Dish It Out 26/05/08
      138.   Tex - from? 20:41  |  Palestinian Brit 26/05/08
      139.   kaled 123 20:41  |  alan 26/05/08
      140.   Bad behavior gets no rewards 20:41  |  Gideon Reader 26/05/08
      141.   Netanyahu if you read this post go back to ancient boundaries 20:45  |  Robert lovell 26/05/08
      142.   Pema - from? 20:48  |  Palestinian Brit 26/05/08
      143.   Ari Ben Palestine 20:54  |  Palestinian Brit 26/05/08
      144.   128 - not so dumb 20:59  |  Palestinian Brit 26/05/08
      145.   They don´t deserve anything !!! 21:03  |  JP 26/05/08
      146.   fine. next offer 90%, next one 88% until wheel stops spinning 21:03  |  ralph 26/05/08
      147.   Colin Wright... its a unfair trade, don´t you? 21:06  |  JP 26/05/08
      148.   look at the map of west bank settlements 21:12  |  hollingsworth 26/05/08
      149.   kohn Interplanetary traveller back from outer space 21:17  |  Labhras 26/05/08
      150.   Raed Kami & palistinanas UK 21:22  |  RW 26/05/08
      151.   Partition refusal 21:26  |  bar 26/05/08
      152.   #129 At teacher in urgent need of updating historical knowledge 21:29  |  Ben Alofs 26/05/08
      153.   palestinian brit # 145 the "world" isn`t taking the side of the 21:30  |  terrornator 26/05/08
      154.   olmert out 21:33  |  yair 26/05/08
      155.   to the prime minister of israel olmert 21:40  |  yair 26/05/08
      156.   #145 Pal Brit - Delusion is the last step into the deep end! 21:40  |  WYSIWYG 26/05/08
      157.   Eve - There are almost 6 million Jews in Israel 22:11  |  Reid 26/05/08
      158.   Johnboy - The swap includes Gaza connector 22:21  |  Reid 26/05/08
      159.   Paddy showing his ignorance again - bejaybers! 22:22  |  Free Gilad Shalit 26/05/08
      160.   Eve - Condemning all Israelis 22:29  |  Reid 26/05/08
      161.   Eve, thats quite wrong 22:37  |  realist 26/05/08
      162.   Danite - Watch out for apples and Oranges 22:43  |  Reid 26/05/08
      163.   Rowan - the percentages include the Jordan Strip 22:59  |  Reid 26/05/08
      164.   Palestinians reject Palestinian state, again and again 23:00  |  Realist 26/05/08
      165.   if i recall, 95% was the magic number: 23:10  |  eric 26/05/08
      166.   Palestinian Brit 23:15  |  pema 26/05/08
      167.   RAVI Why dont you show the way with Kashmir 23:33  |  PETER SM 26/05/08
      168.   For Jim# 26 23:34  |  Fortuna Benmayor 26/05/08
      169.   For Jim # 26 23:39  |  Fortuna Benmayor 26/05/08
      170.   #12 Viper 23:42  |  Dik 26/05/08
      171.   eric and 5% fantasy 23:43  |  peter 26/05/08
      172.   For Johnboy # 70 23:48  |  Fortuna Benmayor 26/05/08
      173.   To Gilad Shalit: Right On the Mark 00:02  |  Dave Levy 27/05/08
      174.   Well at least we`re hearing territorial specifics & % of land 00:14  |  Smadar 27/05/08
      175.   158 Reid - Zero Sum on Sovereignty, not People 00:16  |  Mark of Lewiston 27/05/08
      176.   why was robert malley so nasty to israel 00:17  |  yair 27/05/08
      177.   #172 Don`t pretend otherwise, Fortuna 01:06  |  Johnboy 27/05/08
      178.   Absurd 01:06  |  wibism 27/05/08
      179.   #158 Reid puts words in my mouth. Part 1 01:11  |  Johnboy 27/05/08
      180.   #157 Reid - WEST BANK IS NOT ISRAEL 01:12  |  eve 27/05/08
      181.   More Israeli lies 01:17  |  wibism 27/05/08
      182.   #159 Free Gilad Shalit 01:19  |  ballistic 27/05/08
      183.   #158 Reid puts words in my mouth. Part 2 01:26  |  Johnboy 27/05/08
      184.   #153 Say Terrornator, are you bipolar? 01:26  |  ballistic 27/05/08
      185.   # 171 you`re right peter, maybe it was 97-98% 01:30  |  eric 27/05/08
      186.   WYSIWYG - Delusion is the last step into the deep end! 01:51  |  wibism 27/05/08
      187.   Peter Sm lear more facts about India 02:12  |  Truth 27/05/08
      188.   Reid 02:37  |  Danite 27/05/08
      189.   Palestinian Brit 02:39  |  Paul 27/05/08
      190.   That`s it. Time`s up. 02:41  |  Carolyn 27/05/08
      191.   Ben Alofs 03:03  |  Wichter 27/05/08
      192.   Dr. Brnd 03:07  |  Paul 27/05/08
      193.   Islamist-Jihadists` rejection is good for Israel 03:13  |  Brod 27/05/08
      194.   Carolyn in the clouds 03:19  |  wibism 27/05/08
      195.   Ravi #1 04:15  |  Sabra 27/05/08
      196.   Dutch 32 04:20  |  Sabra 27/05/08
      197.   Viper 12 04:23  |  sabra 27/05/08
      198.   Eric & eve The word greedy is not applicable in this context 04:27  |  RW 27/05/08
      199.   Hold out for a one state solution 04:28  |  janet 27/05/08
      200.   If they don`t` take it then what? 04:30  |  janet 27/05/08
      201.   Johnboy - response 04:31  |  Reid 27/05/08
      202.   Eve - Palestine won`t allow any Jews 04:48  |  Reid 27/05/08
      203.   Wibism - Jerusalem will be negotiated later 04:50  |  Reid 27/05/08
      204.   Palis never owned the land . 05:02  |  TOMY 27/05/08
      205.   #175 Johnboy to Reid. "Reid puts words in my mouth." 05:13  |  Maureen Ann 27/05/08
      206.   Abbas might have been able 05:21  |  Mark Lincoln 27/05/08
      207.   #184 Carolyn. What do you mean, "times up?" 05:38  |  Maureen Ann 27/05/08
      208.   #Carolyn. What do you mean "times up?" 05:44  |  Maureen Ann 27/05/08
      209.   No the 67 borders were not correct 06:18  |  Mona 27/05/08
      210.   LEAH 06:24  |  Mona 27/05/08
      211.   #88 indrajaya 06:32  |  geoff 27/05/08
      212.   CAROLYN/USA 06:34  |  Mona 27/05/08
      213.   91,5% may seem like a lot 06:45  |  rm 27/05/08
      214.   settlements 06:49  |  rm 27/05/08
      215.   Non-offer surprisingly rejected 06:51  |  Pablo B 27/05/08
      216.   for Johnboy # 173 07:19  |  Fortuna Benmayor 27/05/08
      217.   Moonwalking 07:24  |  Michael N 27/05/08
      218.   Face the Facts: There is no turning the clock back to 1967 07:41  |  Steve 27/05/08
      219.   The offer was likely 9.15% 07:51  |  Steve 27/05/08
      220.   West Bak 07:52  |  rachel simson 27/05/08
      221.   THE PALESTINIANS DESERVE ZERO!!! 07:59  |  Dr Eric 27/05/08
      222.   Rejecting associative fairness is not negotiating Peace 08:17  |  Zev 27/05/08
      223.   #206 - Steve:The clock was turned back 2,000 years 08:26  |  Joe 27/05/08
      224.   #214 - Dr Eric from the planet Zoltran 08:57  |  Joe 27/05/08
      225.   Dr Eric #214 09:11  |  northern neighbor 27/05/08
      226.   214 Dr Eric, your misconceptions 09:33  |  Dutch 27/05/08
      227.   WHERE were all the bleeding hearts pre 1967? No ISM demos. 09:39  |  PETER SM 27/05/08
      228.   #194 Not much of a response there, Reid... 09:52  |  Johnboy 27/05/08
      229.   WHO STARTED THE INTIFADA IN 2000? 09:52  |  DR ERIC 27/05/08
      230.   WHO SAID NO IN 1947?? 09:52  |  DR ERIC 27/05/08
      231.   WHO SAID THREE NOs in 1967? 09:54  |  Dr Eric 27/05/08
      232.   TO # 152 Ben Alofs 10:00  |  THE TEACHER/INSTRUCT 27/05/08
      233.   #220 Dutch - with your logic- US gos bk to Indians 10:03  |  Dr eric 27/05/08
      234.   #211 No, Fortuna, you are deluded. 10:10  |  Johnboy 27/05/08
      235.   Imprisoned 10:18  |  Paul Macdonald 27/05/08
      236.   #233 No, Dr. Eric, your logic is nonsense. 11:03  |  Johnboy 27/05/08
      237.   #231 A quick challenge to Dr. Eric 11:07  |  Johnboy 27/05/08
      238.   To Paul Macdonald -#235 - shame on you!! 11:10  |  Dr Eric 27/05/08
      239.   # 194 to rw re: the word greedy 11:48  |  eric 27/05/08
      240.   #104, RW, like i said, its all or war 12:39  |  VIPER 27/05/08
      241.   But Wait! According to JB, MA, et all, Israel never offers... 14:29  |  David Teich 27/05/08
      242.   236: JB muttering about "logic"? Funny 14:39  |  David Teich 27/05/08
      243.   #241 Teichie talks about "drivel" 15:12  |  Johnboy 27/05/08
      244.   #242 David invents his own language...... 15:22  |  Johnboy 27/05/08
      245.   Dr. Eric , My Response 18:22  |  Dutch 27/05/08
      246.   Palestinians reject Israeli...................... 21:33  |  Sharon 27/05/08
      247.   TO # 245 dutch 21:37  |  THE TEACHER/INSTRUCT 27/05/08
      248.   #52 El Birawi, Re They steal & want to negotiate it back 00:04  |  Dutch 28/05/08
      249.   #247 Teacher /Instruct Re: A non existing entity 00:27  |  Dutch 28/05/08
      250.   Dr Eric 09:50  |  Paul Macdonald 28/05/08
      251.   To # 247 Dutch 10:06  |  THE TEACHER/INSTRUCT 28/05/08
      252.   251Teacher/ I don`t where you get off making such statements 23:32  |  Dutch 28/05/08
      253.   243-4: JB stil avoiding issues. Nothing new there, p1 12:41  |  David Teich 30/05/08
      254.   243-4: JB stil avoiding issues. Nothing new there, p2 12:41  |  David Teich 30/05/08
      255.   252: Because, you ignorant fool, Dutch, you`re not learning 12:56  |  David Teich 30/05/08
      256.   223: Notice Joe`s hypocrisy (2nd try) 12:03  |  David Teich 30/05/08
      257.   #253 David repeats the mantra, the matra, the mantra... 21:47  |  Johnboy 30/05/08
      258.   #254 David speaks Teichie, not English Part 1 21:54  |  Johnboy 30/05/08
      259.   #254 David speaks Teichie, not English Part 2 22:02  |  Johnboy 30/05/08
      260.   257-9: Yes, JB, the mantra of facts and reality, p1 13:15  |  David Teich 01/06/08
      261.   257-9: Yes, JB, the mantra of facts and reality, p2 13:18  |  David Teich 01/06/08
      262.   #260 Another laughable example of Teich-speak 14:56  |  Johnboy 01/06/08
      263.   #261 Teich-speak plumbing new lows.... 15:00  |  Johnboy 01/06/08
      264.   #260 2nd try to respond to David`s nonsense 09:34  |  Johnboy 02/06/08
      265.   JB the avoider rambles again to try to hide, p1 18:44  |  David Teich 03/06/08
      266.   JB the avoider rambles again to try to hide, p2 18:51  |  David Teich 03/06/08
      267.   JB the avoider rambles again to try to hide, p3 18:58  |  David Teich 03/06/08
      268.   #265 David Teich is another who plays "let`s pretendies" 04:19  |  Johnboy 04/06/08
      269.   #266 The Teichster`s authoritative legal source - CNN!!! 05:12  |  Johnboy 04/06/08
      270.   #267 David seems to have mislaid his thinking cap... 05:25  |  Johnboy 04/06/08
      271.   The lord art thou, JB, spouts again!, p1 14:42  |  David Teich 04/06/08
      272.   The lord art thou, JB, spouts again!, p2 14:53  |  David Teich 04/06/08
      273.   The lord art thou, JB, spouts again!, p3 14:57  |  David Teich 04/06/08
      274.   271 The same old, same old from David. 15:17  |  Johnboy 04/06/08
      275.   #271 David delves back into the 19th century again 15:20  |  Johnboy 04/06/08
      276.   #271 David swears by cnn. 15:23  |  Johnboy 04/06/08
      277.   #271 David`s ignorance writ large.... 15:30  |  Johnboy 04/06/08
      278.   #272 True enough, David, but not in the way you think 15:32  |  Johnboy 04/03/09
      279.   #273 A laughable admission from David... 15:41  |  Johnboy 04/06/08
      280.   #271 A quick reminder for David.... 15:48  |  Johnboy 04/06/08
      281.   Ahh, once again, JB tries to flood to... p4 13:11  |  David Teich 07/06/08
      282.   Ahh, once again, JB tries to flood to... p5 13:23  |  David Teich 07/06/08
      283.   #282 Is that so, David? 01:45  |  Johnboy 08/06/08
      284.   #281 Tiechie living in denial 01:50  |  Johnboy 08/06/08
      285.   Ahh, once again, JB tries to flood to... p1 (2nd try) 11:02  |  David Teich 08/06/08
      286.   Ahh, once again, JB tries to flood to... p2 (2nd try) 11:03  |  David Teich 08/06/08
      287.   Ahh, once again, JB tries to flood to... p3 (2nd try) 11:03  |  David Teich 08/06/08
      288.   I thought I was the one with ADD, JB, p1 11:09  |  David Teich 08/06/08
      289.   I thought I was the one with ADD, JB, p2 11:11  |  David Teich 08/06/08
      290.   oops, almost forgot, JB`s typically ignorant 283 13:56  |  David Teich 08/06/08
      291.   #289 David finally reveals his point..... 03:48  |  Johnboy 10/06/08
      292.   A quick review while JB runs 14:11  |  David Teich 11/06/08
      293.   #292 A quick critique of the Blatherer....Part 1 07:52  |  Johnboy 13/06/08
      294.   #292 A quick critique of the Blatherer....Part 2 08:04  |  Johnboy 13/06/08
      295.   #292 A quick critique of the Blatherer....Part 3 08:16  |  Johnboy 13/06/08
      296.   JB thinks he`s in Egypt, and amphibious (2nd try) 14:40  |  David Teich 13/06/08
      297.   293-5: Too bad JB can`t dance, p1 14:51  |  David Teich 13/06/08
      298.   293-5: Too bad JB can`t dance, p2 15:04  |  David Teich 13/06/08
      299.   293-5: Too bad JB can`t dance, p3 15:09  |  David Teich 13/06/08
      300.   #297 More pontificating idiocy from David 12:40  |  Johnboy 14/06/08
      301.   #292 3rd attempt to reply to a straight-out lie from DT 02:42  |  Johnboy 16/06/08
      302.   More ignorant, hate-filled avoidance from JB, p1 11:52  |  David Teich 16/06/08
      303.   More ignorant, hate-filled avoidance from JB, p2 11:54  |  David Teich 16/06/08
      304.   #302 David`s ignorance writ large 17:07  |  Johnboy 16/06/08
      305.   #302 David`s ignorance writ even larger 17:18  |  Johnboy 16/06/08
      306.   Poor JB, staring in the mirror too long, p1 16:29  |  David Teich 18/06/08
      307.   Poor JB, staring in the mirror too long, p2 16:37  |  David Teich 18/06/08
      308.   #307 Giving David Teich a leg-up..... 11:29  |  Johnboy 19/06/08
      309.   #306 The anti-semantic ravings of David Teich 11:52  |  Johnboy 25/03/09
      310.   #307 David`s high-tech aid to comprehension - 2nd try 01:12  |  Johnboy 20/06/08
      311.   JB`s avoidance theatre humorously continues, p1 16:56  |  David Teich 21/06/08
      312.   JB`s avoidance theatre humorously continues, p2 17:03  |  David Teich 21/06/08
      313.   JB`s avoidance theatre humorously continues, p3 17:06  |  David Teich 21/06/08
      314.   #312 Man, that`s sad....Part 2 16:00  |  Johnboy 22/06/08
      315.   #313 Man, that`s sad.... Part 3 16:19  |  Johnboy 22/06/08
      316.   #311 Man, that`s sad - 2nd try to respond 03:10  |  Johnboy 23/06/08
      317.   Come on, JB, address the facts, p1 12:06  |  David Teich 23/06/08
      318.   Come on, JB, address the facts, p2 12:13  |  David Teich 23/06/08
      319.   Come on, JB, address the facts, p3 12:18  |  David Teich 23/06/08
      320.   #317 I *still* can`t get it thru David`s thick skull!!! 16:06  |  Johnboy 23/06/08
      321.   Here, David, I`ll let someone else try to explain it to you.... 14:10  |  Johnboy 24/06/08
      322.   Right, JB, the lies just won`t fit in. The truth blocks them 20:14  |  David Teich 24/06/08
      323.   #322 David - once a blockhead, always a blockhead 01:04  |  Johnboy 25/06/08
      324.   #322 Parsing David`s latest nonsense..... 05:02  |  Johnboy 25/06/08
      325.   #322 Testing David`s latest nonsense against reality..... 05:33  |  Johnboy 25/06/08
      326.   #322 Refuting David`s latest nonsense with a few examples 06:07  |  Johnboy 25/06/08
      327.   Poor JB, foaming again, p1 17:50  |  David Teich 25/06/08
      328.   Poor JB, foaming again, p2 18:02  |  David Teich 25/06/08
      329.   Poor JB, foaming again, p3 18:04  |  David Teich 25/06/08
      330.   #327 Astonishingly shallow argument, David 04:30  |  Johnboy 26/06/08
      331.   #327 Parsing Paragraph 23 for David 04:43  |  Johnboy 26/06/08
      332.   #328 Yes, you did say that, David. 04:55  |  Johnboy 26/06/08
      333.   #329 David rather misses the point.... 05:23  |  Johnboy 26/06/08
      334.   330-3: JB, the man from the shallow end, p1 09:50  |  David Teich 26/06/08
      335.   330-3: JB, the man from the shallow end, p2 09:56  |  David Teich 26/06/08
      336.   330-3: JB, the man from the shallow end, p3 10:05  |  David Teich 26/06/08
      337.   #334 No David, you didn`t 17:12  |  Johnboy 26/06/08
      338.   #334 Staring in amazement at David`s words 00:48  |  Johnboy 27/06/08
      339.   Poor, slow, JB, avoiding both facts and his own words, p1 13:35  |  David Teich 27/06/08
      340.   Poor, slow, JB, avoiding both facts and his own words, p2 13:46  |  David Teich 27/06/08
      341.   JEWISH UNDER GROUND 15:44  |  moshe brodetzky 25/03/09
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