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We owe the Palestinians a state
By Bradley Burston
Tags: Israel, Jaffa, Burston 

I was walking the dog in Jaffa early the morning after Independence Day when, contrary to all seasonal expectation, it began to rain. We took cover by the old Turkish government building, the Sarai. Beautiful as it surely is, though, it is barely skin deep. The Sarai is a freshly reconstructed false front.

The facade is framed by two plaques, eloquent precisely for what they do not say. On the right, a somber, weathered howitzer-bronze tablet states that the building - less than 30 steps from Jaffa's landmark Clock Tower - once served as a headquarters for "Arab rioters" and an Iraqi army expeditionary force. It adds with evident pride that on January 4, 1948, the Lehi Jewish underground drove a truck laden with explosives to the structure, and demolished it.

The plaque says nothing about what happened next."Dozens killed and wounded in explosion in Jaffa," read Haaretz' front-page headline the next day. The blast was such that it also destroyed part of the adjacent Barclay's bank and a number of homes and stores in the area.
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In 2004, the Tourism Ministry and the Tel Aviv municipality put up a second plaque to the left of the first, this one done in cheerful colors, celebrating the building's rehabilitation. But the restoration leaves most of the building to the imagination. Monumental columns hold up a non-existent roof. A locked door guards the entrance to a non-existent building.

This curious remnant of colonial rule was, in retrospect, just the place to seek shelter during this period, the modern Days of Repentance from Independence Day last week, to the Friday observance of Palestinian Naqba Day.

It was a day to look anew at the past. It was a day to consider the tragic success that is Israel at 60. It was a day to consider that many of the strengths that made Israel a success, also mandated that our lives would be indelibly marked by tragedy.

It was, all in all, a day to consider what we owe the Palestinians.

Before all else, we owe the Palestinians our respect. They could have rolled over long ago, packed up and headed for Australia, given up. They know that their leaders are execrable, their institutions corrupt and impotent, their ideology self-destructive, their economy in ruin, their international prestige at a nadir.

Still, they are here. Still, they are our occupiers. After 60 years, powerless, in disarray, they occupy our imagination and our politics and our nightmares.

We owe the Palestinians for keeping us honest. We owe the Palestinians for reminding us that we were never alone in this place. We owe the Palestinians what we expect from them: the recognition that they deserve, as a real people.

We owe the Palestinians a state.

It is all too easy for us to decide that we owe them nothing, for us to see them as foreigners here, brutal aliens, usurpers. As easy as it is for them to see us exactly the same way. The last thing we want to believe is the truth: that we resemble each other too much to be able to agree.

Like any people which has suffered tragedy, displacement, injustice, oppression, we want more than we can realistically expect. So do they.

Do they lie to us? Of course they do. Just as they lie to themselves. Just as we lie to ourselves. Are they the hostages of their own extremists? Of course they are. Just as we are the hostages of our extremists, the settlers who threaten to make our lives hell if we try to move them.

We believe that we have a right to more than we can realistically expect, because we know ourselves to be morally superior. So do they. We know ourselves to be morally superior because we see our armed actions as self-defense.

So do they.

We know our claim to the land to be incontestable, owing to who we are, our ancient history, the bitterness of our recent past, our willingness to sacrifice for this soil, and the stubbornness of our refusal to part with it. So do they.

We will never be able to give them their fair share of this land, nor will they ever be able to give us ours. In the end, the extremists on both sides are right: we do deserve everything, the Mediterranean to the Jordan, the Lebanon border to the Red Sea, and all of Jerusalem in between. We can claim all of it. And so can they.

Or, alternatively, we can find a way to live here. To look at our past with honesty, and our present also. To renounce our extremists and their fantasies, in which our unwanted enemy simply gives up, caves in, clears out. We will not give the Palestinians back Jaffa, nor Acre, just as they will not give us back Hebron, nor Shechem.

After 60 years, it is time for us to start acting contrary to all ingrained expectation. It is time for us to stop being remnants of colonial rule. After 60 years, it is time to stop seeking shelter in facades.

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Previous blogs:


Sixty years of Nakba, 60 years of nothing
Our Defense Forces, our war crimes, our terrorism
For our worst enemy, Hamas, just two words
The New 12 Tribes of Israel
A place at the table
I want the Palestinians to win



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  1.   Palestinians Owe Themselves A State- We Don`t 13:45  |  dyinglikeflies 13/05/08
  2.   Question 14:05  |  ERSB 13/05/08
  3.   Dear Sir, 14:11  |  zeev 13/05/08
  4.   the philistines are certainly not owed a state 14:40  |  augustine e johnson 13/05/08
  5.   palestinian state 15:20  |  mark Greenberg 13/05/08
  6.   Winners write History 15:20  |  Manolo 13/05/08
  7.   Palestinian State 15:29  |  Adrianne 13/05/08
  8.   The X per cent of Y per cent is not acceptable 15:30  |  Manolo 13/05/08
  9.   by negotiate 15:37  |  Manolo 13/05/08
  10.   "Palis deserving a state "; NO 15:38  |  trumpeldor 13/05/08
  11.   Why don`t you start by surrendering Ha`aretz to them 15:39  |  Ben Menachem 13/05/08
  12.   We owe them 15:41  |  Yakov 13/05/08
  13.   We owe them the chance for a new life elsewhere. 15:51  |  Chaim 13/05/08
  14.   Some heroes missed 15:54  |  Manolo 13/05/08
  15.   chaim 17:15  |  tim 13/05/08
  16.   Manolo, Read a history book 17:33  |  dyinglikeflies 13/05/08
  17.   Earn It 17:51  |  RON 13/05/08
  18.   Well done, Mr. Burston 18:28  |  Aaron Levitt 13/05/08
  19.   I don`t get it! 18:28  |  Tali 13/05/08
  20.   What the Pals think they are "owed" is most of the problem 18:35  |  Jordan 13/05/08
  21.   These were legitimate targets 18:40  |  Jordan 13/05/08
  22.   Israel owes what???? 19:10  |  David Hickson 13/05/08
  23.   Different way to look at it. 21:04  |  not important 13/05/08
  24.   to Jordan #20 21:28  |  zeev 13/05/08
  25.   Stop chaning subject, it is only One state Now for all people 21:30  |  omolll 13/05/08
  26.   No 13, just like nazism 21:45  |  Marilyn 13/05/08
  27.   to Tali #19 21:59  |  zeev 13/05/08
  28.   Missing Opportunities 22:15  |  Clay Rowe 13/05/08
  29.   to omolll #25 22:18  |  zeev 13/05/08
  30.   to David Hickson #22 23:18  |  zeev 13/05/08
  31.   We owe gratitude to Hashem 23:31  |  Herbert Kaine 13/05/08
  32.   We owe gratitude to Hashem 23:31  |  Herbert Kaine 13/05/08
  33.   We owe gratitude to Hashem 23:31  |  Herbert Kaine 13/05/08
  34.   We owe gratitude to Hashem 23:31  |  Herbert Kaine 13/05/08
  35.   The partition ... 23:32  |  Morris Valentine 13/05/08
  36.   declare independence...please 02:31  |  s mezritch 14/05/08
  37.   #15 Tim. Your equation of Zionism and Nazism is despicable. 02:49  |  Chaim 14/05/08
  38.   #30 Zeev. So we owe ourselves the "gift" of endless terror. 03:01  |  Chaim 14/05/08
  39.   very true... 05:34  |  John 14/05/08
  40.   Blind symmetry: Extremists on both sides 06:19  |  Steve 14/05/08
  41.   Misplaced Guilt 07:02  |  Steve 14/05/08
  42.   Morris Valentine #35 Bingo! 08:28  |  Tim R 14/05/08
  43.   Bradley Burston`s perfect balance 09:31  |  Clickfool 14/05/08
  44.   #4 Augustine e Johnson. Just the sand? 09:34  |  Maureen Ann 14/05/08
  45.   to Chaim #38 - on warped logic 09:41  |  zeev 14/05/08
  46.   We owe the Palestinians nothing, zero, klum, wallaishi!! 09:41  |  Dr Eric 14/05/08
  47.   If the Israeli people would be a "smart" people...... 09:44  |  Swiss (Dino) 14/05/08
  48.   For Ben Menachem, who needs soothing pap # 11 09:52  |  Clickfool 14/05/08
  49.   A land without thieves for thieves without a land 10:01  |  Chanalau, Tova 14/05/08
  50.   u have proven that u do not deserve any thing 10:10  |  Imad 14/05/08
  51.   You gave them a state 10:14  |  Ben Menachem 14/05/08
  52.   I Just Hate Nazis And Taliban 10:26  |  Yosemite 14/05/08
  53.   Stop the ethnocentric rhetoric and make a deal 10:34  |  Scott 14/05/08
  54.   Burston, I salute you 10:38  |  Yaz 14/05/08
  55.   Dino 10:57  |  Linichka 14/05/08
  56.   thank you 11:15  |  rebecka 14/05/08
  57.   Gaza is a Palestinian state -what about the 11:34  |  Arthur 14/05/08
  58.   Thank you Mr. Burston, but need to see the response 11:47  |  El-Birawi 14/05/08
  59.   #48 Scott 11:56  |  Question Mark 14/05/08
  60.   "we" owe HaShem a repentance, "we" owe the forefathers an apology 12:12  |  mary for jews 14/05/08
  61.   NOT ONLY A STATE 12:19  |  indrajaya 14/05/08
  62.   #48 Scott Part 2 12:35  |  Question Mark 14/05/08
  63.   Rubbish. The Arabs owe the Palestinians a state 12:37  |  SystemF 14/05/08
  64.   I agree with Mark Greenberg (Post No. 5) 12:48  |  Johnny Weintraub 14/05/08
  65.   sounds nice; well, some of us have been willing to do this - 12:49  |  ivo 14/05/08
  66.   The Palestinians owe us sixty years of peace 12:54  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 14/05/08
  67.   Clickfool-You and the Moslems are very moral 12:56  |  Arthur 14/05/08
  68.   Israel won`t listen to Bradley until it`s too late. 12:59  |  Michael 14/05/08
  69.   El-Birawi: Jews were killed in Palestine 1929 13:04  |  Arthur 14/05/08
  70.   #4 13:05  |  Dave 14/05/08
  71.   # 55 Linichka 13:06  |  Swiss (Dino) 14/05/08
  72.   @ 31 Herbert Kaine: It`s Hebron, Palestine, always will be 13:08  |  Palestinian in UK 14/05/08
  73.   To Indrajaya- I apologise 13:12  |  Arthur 14/05/08
  74.   #45 Zeev. A prediction is something that hasn`t come true. 13:17  |  Chaim 14/05/08
  75.   To Manolo & Arabs - Stop begging for land that is not yours. 13:37  |  Vladimir 14/05/08
  76.   #44 Maureen 13:38  |  Rab Burns 14/05/08
  77.   The demise of the nation-state.#59 13:42  |  raul gilberto 14/05/08
  78.   Not paranoia 13:42  |  Linichka 14/05/08
  79.   Gush Etizion was ON West Bank before 1948 13:46  |  Manolo 14/05/08
  80.   PALESTINIAN STATE IS A RIGHT... NOT A FAVOUR 13:47  |  TripleJump 14/05/08
  81.   Leo Tolstoy and Bradley Burston - Burston is much better writer, 13:49  |  17 14/05/08
  82.   We owe Ourselves 13:50  |  Tzfonit 14/05/08
  83.   # 66 Michael - talking about defeat 13:53  |  17 14/05/08
  84.   For Jews who chose to ignore history 13:55  |  El-Birawi 14/05/08
  85.   Yes, Muslims and Arabs did engage in crimes 13:59  |  El-Birawi 14/05/08
  86.   TO Bradley Burston - needs to educate on history before writing s 13:59  |  HISTORY - part 1 14/05/08
  87.   The Palestinians owe us sixty years of peace 13:59  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 14/05/08
  88.   TO Bradley Burston - needs to educate on history before writing s 14:01  |  HISTORY - part 2 14/05/08
  89.   The Partition Resolution of 1947,Res.181 called for the establish 14:02  |  lakshmi 14/05/08
  90.   `Just as we are the hostages of our extremists` 14:05  |  Ronnie Wolman 14/05/08
  91.   Reading these comments makes me sick 14:08  |  Lennart 14/05/08
  92.   Bradley Burston didn`t tell us what was the 14:10  |  Akram Zekaria 14/05/08
  93.   The choice is yours: Jordan or Saudi Arabia 14:12  |  Jordanian 14/05/08
  94.   El-Birawi: The West Fought For Liberation 14:12  |  Ronnie Wolman 14/05/08
  95.   ISRAELI ARABS KILLED IN DRIVE-BY SHOOTING 14:14  |  Steve 14/05/08
  96.   Howitzer-Bronze, Mr. Bradley Burston? 14:19  |  Jeff Northridge 14/05/08
  97.   #77 raul gilberto 14:20  |  Question Mark 14/05/08
  98.   50,000 cleansed from Jaffa 14:28  |  Hank N Tennessee 14/05/08
  99.   Of course, all Judea-Christian Crimes for Democracy 14:34  |  El-Birawi 14/05/08
  100.   Tzfonit the Rabid Arabist 14:39  |  ...G1 14/05/08
  101.   The least that Arabs can do is to respect the Jews. 14:42  |  Too hard to do? 14/05/08
  102.   Bradley, the only trouble with "owing" someone 14:47  |  The Equalizer 14/05/08
  103.   #77 raul gilberto, Continued 14:47  |  Question Mark 14/05/08
  104.   Einstein against Bible and jews-finest-than-the-rest 14:49  |  Manolo 14/05/08
  105.   For those that claim that the Israelis had good intentions in `48 14:53  |  Guido 14/05/08
  106.   Manolo # 8 What 1967 Borders? 15:06  |  Jeff Northridge 14/05/08
  107.   of course you do 15:09  |  Archangel 14/05/08
  108.   "We owe the Palestinians a state..." 15:11  |  common sense 14/05/08
  109.   Return money to Jews they pay for they land. 15:14  |  Stranger 14/05/08
  110.   Burston`s historical relativism 15:15  |  Yonatan 14/05/08
  111.   palestinians aren`t owed ANYTHING 15:17  |  kivi 14/05/08
  112.   It was never about creating a "Palestinian State" 15:18  |  truth be told 14/05/08
  113.   Etfadalu welcome home 15:20  |  Jordanian 14/05/08
  114.   Israel does NOT owe the Pals a state! 15:22  |  AliciaYasmeen 14/05/08
  115.   #86 HISTORY - part 1 .Three errors in your first 3 sentences. 15:27  |  hubal 14/05/08
  116.   How an assassin became a `local hero` 15:30  |  Manolo peaceful man 14/05/08
  117.   El-Birawi: `Somewhere` 15:38  |  Ronnie Wolman 14/05/08
  118.   Teach The Pals How To Fish & Build A State, Otherwise They`ll ... 15:41  |  Lavi 14/05/08
  119.   Chnalau# 49 Contaminating Londonistan now 15:45  |  Stranger 14/05/08
  120.   thieves and victim`s relatives 15:47  |  Manolo 14/05/08
  121.   # 90 Ronnie and the mother of all delusions...... 15:49  |  Swiss (Dino) 14/05/08
  122.   The Black Cloud Hanging Over The Pals Heads Was Self-Seeded 15:50  |  Lavi 14/05/08
  123.   Check your history! 15:50  |  Stranger 14/05/08
  124.   # 78 Linichka 15:51  |  Swiss (Dino) 14/05/08
  125.   Iakshmi # 89 Noncompliance Of An UNGAR? 16:06  |  Jeff Northridge 14/05/08
  126.   Just like John I`m thinking 16:18  |  Manolo 14/05/08
  127.   yea, this guy is intelligent.... 16:21  |  lars 14/05/08
  128.   Israel Owes the Palestinians Nothing 16:25  |  CHGODMK 14/05/08
  129.   Weizzman were not an evilized person, 16:28  |  bb 14/05/08
  130.   Mr. Burston 16:30  |  John Allen 14/05/08
  131.   #118 Manolo: on thieves and mice 16:31  |  AliciaYasmeen 14/05/08
  132.   9. Manolo: what for? 16:34  |  KUTW 14/05/08
  133.   It doesn`t matter 16:36  |  Natalie 14/05/08
  134.   Mr Burston 16:43  |  KUTW 14/05/08
  135.   #98 Hank N Tennessee 16:44  |  Question Mark 14/05/08
  136.   Preching to the same unconverted crowd 16:48  |  Michael N 14/05/08
  137.   Bringing Light to Nations 16:48  |  Boris 14/05/08
  138.   Iakshmi # 89 Admission To The UN (part 1) 16:48  |  Jeff Northridge 14/05/08
  139.   they lost that right when they turned to terrorism 16:59  |  SHIMON 14/05/08
  140.   Manolo and what does Einstein`s letter prove? 17:02  |  x-ray 14/05/08
  141.   Mutual recognition & respect is the only way 17:07  |  Adam K 14/05/08
  142.   I much doubt they deserve an state 17:07  |  KUTW 14/05/08
  143.   Bradley, sensible assessment, & YES we DO. 17:08  |  Aristein 14/05/08
  144.   #2ERSB. Can you Honestly say that Occupied 17:17  |  Karrim 14/05/08
  145.   # 107 Archangel...Kosovo was taken from Serbia 17:25  |  Lynn 14/05/08
  146.   # 121 Swiss. He is right about one thing 17:31  |  Lynn 14/05/08
  147.   Karrim`s offer 17:32  |  Linichka 14/05/08
  148.   You owe zero. Give them state only if it`s in your own interest 17:38  |  McQueen 14/05/08
  149.   104. Manolo: twisting Einstein 17:38  |  KUTW 14/05/08
  150.   104. Manolo: twisting Einstein (one more thing) 17:40  |  KUTW 14/05/08
  151.   to Chaim #74 - (2) 17:43  |  zeev 14/05/08
  152.   lakshmi 18:05  |  Marc 14/05/08
  153.   #104 Manolo: Einstein:"To know G-D´s thoughts inspires me" 18:12  |  AliciaYasmeen 14/05/08
  154.   BRADLEY. YOU OUTDID EVEN YOURSELF. THIS IS LAUGHABALE 18:12  |  PalestniansAreA Myth 14/05/08
  155.   KUTW 18:23  |  Juan 14/05/08
  156.   #142 Palestinian terror was nothing like Jewish terror in its day 18:26  |  Dutch 14/05/08
  157.   I disagree 18:28  |  Hilda 14/05/08
  158.   KUTW on Einstein. 18:34  |  hubal 14/05/08
  159.   #156 DUTCH: what business did the British have in then Palestine? 18:35  |  AliciaYasmeen 14/05/08
  160.   Hubal Hitchens has an axe to grind 18:37  |  x-ray 14/05/08
  161.   WE OWE ARABS A STATE 6` UNDER! 18:38  |  Moti Bulldozer 14/05/08
  162.   "dyinglikeflies" absolutely correct, hit the nail on the head 18:42  |  jj 14/05/08
  163.   Owing the Palestinians a state 18:42  |  Dr. H. Zigerman 14/05/08
  164.   Palestinians did nothing for over 25 years 18:45  |  El-Birawi 14/05/08
  165.   to Chaim #74 - 1 - 2nd try 18:48  |  zeev 14/05/08
  166.   PALS CALL THEMSELVES ARABS 18:52  |  seer 14/05/08
  167.   Write on, Dr. Zigerman 18:54  |  Israeli 14/05/08
  168.   Hubal, agree with you on points 1 and 3 19:02  |  jj 14/05/08
  169.   The Palestinians 19:04  |  Bill 14/05/08
  170.   We offered them a state: the choose to kill us. 19:09  |  Avram 14/05/08
  171.   x-ray Hitchens 19:15  |  hubal 14/05/08
  172.   refrain of the seven dwarves 19:24  |  open eyes 14/05/08
  173.   Hubal 19:30  |  x-ray 14/05/08
  174.   jj 19:41  |  hubal 14/05/08
  175.   STOP BEING APOLOGETIC TO TERROR!!!!! 19:45  |  Dr Eric 14/05/08
  176.   hubal 19:52  |  x-ray 14/05/08
  177.   Corrupt opportunist gangs 19:55  |  ron paul 14/05/08
  178.   palestinians owe us some answers 19:59  |  peter 14/05/08
  179.   Burston, you really turn the other cheek 20:00  |  Ronnie 14/05/08
  180.   Margie in Tel-Aviv 20:02  |  Justice 14/05/08
  181.   El - Birawi - "engaging in crimes" statement 20:02  |  17 14/05/08
  182.   Isn`t anyone going to answer Peter`s questions? 20:08  |  Curious 14/05/08
  183.   No one can answer Peter`s questions 20:09  |  Not curious 14/05/08
  184.   No one wants to answer Peter`s questions 20:09  |  Not curious 14/05/08
  185.   #159 Alicia. Look up the League of nation... 20:09  |  Dutch 14/05/08
  186.   Bradley - That was your best yet 20:13  |  BBSNews 14/05/08
  187.   Still waiting for someone to answer Peter`s questions... 20:21  |  Curions 14/05/08
  188.   to Margie in Tel Aviv #66 20:26  |  zeev 14/05/08
  189.   El-Biwari, Palestinian resistance to Israel 20:26  |  Dutch 14/05/08
  190.   Burston and his tendencies of being ruled by Pals 20:28  |  Sal 14/05/08
  191.   BRAD HAMAS JUST MURDERED AT ASHKELON. WE OWN THEM SOME ACTION 20:35  |  YITZAK BEN SHLOMO 14/05/08
  192.   #90 Ronnie Wolman 20:36  |  Boycott 14/05/08
  193.   Choices have consequences 20:42  |  Scharker Yid 14/05/08
  194.   Not only a state we owe them... 20:45  |  Sylvie 14/05/08
  195.   they have THREE states in Palestine already! 20:47  |  History accurate 14/05/08
  196.   To Mr Burston: What do the Pals owe us ? 20:49  |  Altalena 14/05/08
  197.   We will take our land back, time is on our side 20:50  |  Saif 14/05/08
  198.   .... owe them... you do 20:51  |  ravi 14/05/08
  199.   The Palestinians Deserve ZERO!!! 20:52  |  Dr Eric 14/05/08
  200.   zeev 20:52  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 14/05/08
  201.   Not so fast 20:53  |  Gilad 14/05/08
  202.   #178 Peter I have a question for you 20:57  |  PantherJet 14/05/08
  203.   Justice a fair question deserves a fair answer 20:57  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 14/05/08
  204.   Yitzak Ben Shlomo on "action" 20:59  |  BBSNews 14/05/08
  205.   It is Hamas Leadership Who Owes Their People; Not Israel 21:00  |  Douglas Fireman 14/05/08
  206.   Dear Zeev - #188 - Why Israel can`t stop a missle on Ashkelon!!! 21:01  |  Dr Eric 14/05/08
  207.   Peace and Pal State 21:07  |  Marc 14/05/08
  208.   Time is NOT on your side Saif 21:08  |  Scharker Yid 14/05/08
  209.   #198 chandigarth 21:09  |  PantherJet 14/05/08
  210.   Altalena on why and what... 21:10  |  BBSNews 14/05/08
  211.   Justice a fair question deserves a fair answer 21:15  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 14/05/08
  212.   to Scharker Yid #193 21:17  |  zeev 14/05/08
  213.   197 Saif Time to change the fruitless mantras 21:19  |  PantherJet 14/05/08
  214.   Peter`s Questions #1 21:25  |  Justice 14/05/08
  215.   #199 Dr of What? 21:27  |  PantherJet 14/05/08
  216.   5: Mark Greenburg and All Right Wing Nuts 21:32  |  Tupac 14/05/08
  217.   Burston - Moral Equivalence on Speed 21:34  |  Tod Zuckerman 14/05/08
  218.   Peter`s Questions #2 21:38  |  Justice 14/05/08
  219.   Margie is dishonest and hateful 21:39  |  Ibrahim 14/05/08
  220.   63 YEARS AGO THERE WAS NO ISRAEL. DONT JURK YOURSELF. 21:39  |  ATİLLA KARAGÖZOĞLU 14/05/08
  221.   peter, your questions are silly 21:40  |  Ibrahim 14/05/08
  222.   ISRAEL USED ALL HER CREDITS. NOW ISRAEL IS TRULY BY HERSELF 21:40  |  ATİLLA KARAGÖZOĞLU 14/05/08
  223.   TONIGHT ! JUST NOW ! I AM READY TO TEACH ISRAEL ..... 21:41  |  ATİLLA KARAGÖZOĞLU 14/05/08
  224.   I support a 2 State solution 21:41  |  Reid 14/05/08
  225.   Peter`s Questions #3 21:46  |  Justice 14/05/08
  226.   Rab Burns from Australia 21:47  |  Reid 14/05/08
  227.   ooohhhh some answers....or not. 21:48  |  peter 14/05/08
  228.   A warped perspective once again 21:48  |  howiej 14/05/08
  229.   # 203 Zeev - Fear is bad adviser. Al tefahed clum... 21:54  |  17 14/05/08
  230.   Peter`s Questions #4 21:55  |  Justice 14/05/08
  231.   we owe the arabs...what are you sick 21:59  |  gersh 14/05/08
  232.   to Margie in Tel Aviv #200 22:00  |  zeev 14/05/08
  233.   Total bull We owe the Palestinians being hated and stigmatized 22:02  |  Shalom Freedman 14/05/08
  234.   Peter`s Questions #5 22:05  |  Justice 14/05/08
  235.   Nothing Owed Palestians - Nothing Earned! 22:08  |  Rafi 14/05/08
  236.   #60 mary for jews 22:08  |  X 14/05/08
  237.   Peter`s Questions #6 22:09  |  Justice 14/05/08
  238.   #100 Gabe 22:10  |  Boycott 14/05/08
  239.   Justice is 0/1 22:16  |  peter 14/05/08
  240.   Margie in Tel-Aviv 22:18  |  Justice 14/05/08
  241.   Democratically elected Hamus stated they never recognize Israel, 22:18  |  17 14/05/08
  242.   Zeev 206 22:20  |  Daniel 14/05/08
  243.   Justice is 0/2 22:20  |  peter 14/05/08
  244.   Justice is 0/3 22:23  |  peter 14/05/08
  245.   #188, poor little zeev, the little broken record 22:23  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 14/05/08
  246.   Justice is 0/4 22:26  |  peter 14/05/08
  247.   Ibrahim you are as ungracious as ever 22:26  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 14/05/08
  248.   #206 Margarine logic 22:26  |  Boycott 14/05/08
  249.   Bradley and his dog 22:28  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 14/05/08
  250.   Justice is 0/5 22:28  |  peter 14/05/08
  251.   Sorry Bradley But Your Article Is Pathetic.Why? 22:30  |  KATHY 14/05/08
  252.   JEWS WILL SURVIVE UNTIL THE LAST MONTHS OF EARTH. 22:34  |  Atilla 14/05/08
  253.   Justice is 0/6 22:37  |  peter 14/05/08
  254.   Justice is 0/7 22:42  |  peter 14/05/08
  255.   Tod Zuckerman leaves his brains in San Francisco 22:43  |  PantherJet 14/05/08
  256.   Justice # 236 22:45  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 14/05/08
  257.   Justice is 1/8 22:46  |  peter 14/05/08
  258.   Two people holding a garment; an insight into the Arab mind 22:47  |  Tosefta 14/05/08
  259.   Justice is 1/9 22:50  |  peter 14/05/08
  260.   they`re asking for a state, they`re entitled to one, but here`s - 22:54  |  ivo 14/05/08
  261.   Palestinian in UK 22:56  |  Herbert Kaine 14/05/08
  262.   Palestinian in UK 22:56  |  Herbert Kaine 14/05/08
  263.   Palestinian in UK 22:57  |  Herbert Kaine 14/05/08
  264.   Palestinian in UK 22:57  |  Herbert Kaine 14/05/08
  265.   Palestinian in UK 22:57  |  Herbert Kaine 14/05/08
  266.   #201 Panther Jet asks a question 22:57  |  peter 14/05/08
  267.   Peter 22:58  |  Justice 14/05/08
  268.   We owe the palestinians. 22:59  |  Bob Wallace 14/05/08
  269.   239 & 240 Peters smugness 22:59  |  PantherJet 14/05/08
  270.   Panther Jet: greetings - 23:05  |  ivo 14/05/08
  271.   Boycott/John 23:05  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 14/05/08
  272.   To Zeev 23:05  |  Larry 14/05/08
  273.   #209 BBS News 23:08  |  Question Mark 14/05/08
  274.   Hey My Fellow Jews ! 23:10  |  Danite 14/05/08
  275.   To 209. BBSNews (!). Who owes what ? 23:11  |  Altalena 14/05/08
  276.   #247, Kathy 23:13  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 14/05/08
  277.   #245 Cipora Julianna Kohn 23:15  |  PantherJet 14/05/08
  278.   #243 Margie in TA ex SA re Ibrahim. 23:15  |  Labhras 14/05/08
  279.   Justice # 236 second try, Haaretz, be generous 23:15  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 14/05/08
  280.   Margie in TA ex SA in her own world of illusion 23:30  |  Labhras 14/05/08
  281.   Notice that Bradley Doesn`t even Ask for peace 23:32  |  Joseph . E 14/05/08
  282.   #247 Kathy 23:34  |  kathy 14/05/08
  283.   Margie in Tel Aviv 23:36  |  Danite 14/05/08
  284.   To Chanalau and Tova 23:37  |  aquarius 14/05/08
  285.   #220 Ibrahim strikes out 23:40  |  peter 14/05/08
  286.   Iakshmi # 89 Admission To The UN (part 2) 23:41  |  Jeff Northridge 14/05/08
  287.   Shalom Ivo 23:44  |  PantherJet 14/05/08
  288.   hubal: on Einstein, deists & being a Jew - 1 23:47  |  ivo 14/05/08
  289.   #257-Justice 23:47  |  peter 14/05/08
  290.   Move to France 23:48  |  Heshig 14/05/08
  291.   #210 Margie the eternal puryeyor of untruths 23:51  |  Labhras 14/05/08
  292.   Tragic success? 23:51  |  michael 14/05/08
  293.   #264 PantherJet 23:53  |  peter 14/05/08
  294.   To Manolo...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edIZyz3OdKA 23:56  |  The Dumbite Kid 14/05/08
  295.   To Marilyn...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edIZyz3OdKA 23:58  |  The Dumbite Kid 14/05/08
  296.   #225 Reid. Get the story straight, mate. 23:58  |  Maureen Ann 14/05/08
  297.   To Mr Clickfool...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edIZyz3OdKA 00:00  |  The Dumbite Kid 15/05/08
  298.   Tosefta is becoming true to her name 00:05  |  PantherJet 15/05/08
  299.   #274 Margie pushing more lies 00:05  |  Labhras 15/05/08
  300.   #285 Jeff, You Presume that Lakshmi is Persuaded by Facts? 00:09  |  JP 15/05/08
  301.   Hi Danite :) 00:12  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 15/05/08
  302.   #254 imaginative post Tosefta 00:14  |  Roo 15/05/08
  303.   hubal: on Einstein, deists & being a Jew - 2 00:15  |  ivo 15/05/08
  304.   #76 Rab Burns. You need to find yourself. 00:16  |  Maureen Ann 15/05/08
  305.   #165 Zeev. This post has no truth and is even more convoluted. 00:16  |  Chaim 15/05/08
  306.   They have one 00:20  |  Dr David I. Gross 15/05/08
  307.   Margie in Tel-Aviv 00:26  |  Justice 15/05/08
  308.   Haaretz: hire Palestinian journalists 00:27  |  Carl 15/05/08
  309.   Tosefta you live in the USA 00:39  |  x-ray 15/05/08
  310.   ivo 00:43  |  hubal 15/05/08
  311.   Peter 00:47  |  Justice 15/05/08
  312.   we owe them nothing 00:50  |  english jew 15/05/08
  313.   # 226 peter..ooohhhh some answers....or not.Thank God For Your .. 00:51  |  KATHY 15/05/08
  314.   #257 imaginative post Tosefta 00:53  |  Roo 15/05/08
  315.   No you don`t 00:55  |  Theo Miller 15/05/08
  316.   Reply to #254 ( Panther Jet) 00:56  |  Tod Zuckerman 15/05/08
  317.   #279 Labhras. Margie is right. Israel ISN`T an all Jewish state. 01:11  |  Chaim 15/05/08
  318.   to Dr Eric #206 - good news 01:17  |  zeev 15/05/08
  319.   THOUSANDS of Jews Maimed & MURDERED for WICKED LIE of Occupation 01:21  |  Linda Rivera 15/05/08
  320.   we owe them a state 01:30  |  sabra 15/05/08
  321.   Theo Miller 01:31  |  Justice 15/05/08
  322.   Jew-HATERS DECEIVE for Expansionist Islam. Already ARAB Pal State 01:39  |  Linda Rivera 15/05/08
  323.   Jew-HATERS WICKEDLY Ignore Justice for One Million JEWISH REFUGEE 01:40  |  Linda Rivera 15/05/08
  324.   Danite: Beautiful Slogan 01:48  |  ...G1 15/05/08
  325.   # 265 Panther Jet?On Smugness 01:50  |  KATHY 15/05/08
  326.   Battered wife syndrome 01:54  |  Zev 15/05/08
  327.   Tod Zuckerman on fraud and hazy moral insights 01:55  |  PantherJet 15/05/08
  328.   Nop, Bradley, we owe the pal`s millions of the bullets right... 02:05  |  misha 15/05/08
  329.   Zeev,,,a ? from that incredibly annoying... 02:06  |  Beitcafe 15/05/08
  330.   the palestinians have begged from the international community for 02:07  |  handouts r over 15/05/08
  331.   to Daniel #242 02:12  |  zeev 15/05/08
  332.   Selfish Sabra 02:12  |  wibism 15/05/08
  333.   ivo 2 02:21  |  hubal 15/05/08
  334.   # 278 To little kathy..I am only replying to your last sentence. 02:25  |  KATHY 15/05/08
  335.   justice 02:26  |  evelyn-the chrisitan 15/05/08
  336.   I don`t think so, Brad baby! 02:29  |  Moshe 15/05/08
  337.   Well Said Mr Burston 02:36  |  PALESTINIAN PRINCE 15/05/08
  338.   ivo 2 02:39  |  hubal 15/05/08
  339.   The choice is yours, Poland, Germany, or Russia 02:39  |  ELIAS KHOURY 15/05/08
  340.   Justice - 02:40  |  17 15/05/08
  341.   Dyinglikeflies has it right # 1 02:44  |  Fortuna Benmayor 15/05/08
  342.   # 66 Margie in Tel Aviv It is they who us their living and peace 02:59  |  KATHY 15/05/08
  343.   G-d, God, god - Figure of speech for Einstein and many others. 03:00  |  Albert 15/05/08
  344.   17 03:06  |  Justice 15/05/08
  345.   ELIAS KHOURY 03:16  |  alan 15/05/08
  346.   # 313 sabra..Short and sweet .We Owe them Zilch! 03:35  |  KATHY 15/05/08
  347.   Um, Elias, JORDAN DID NOT EXIST BEFORE 1947 03:39  |  Daniel 15/05/08
  348.   Augustine`s myths 03:51  |  Truth 15/05/08
  349.   WE OWE THE PALESTINIANS ..... 03:53  |  JAck G. 15/05/08
  350.   Jordan IS the Arab PA State 03:53  |  Jeff 15/05/08
  351.   #311 Palestine will never be a Jewish homeland 04:02  |  Dutch 15/05/08
  352.   Margie, you worse mannered. 04:03  |  Ibrahim 15/05/08
  353.   Danite, the wise. 04:05  |  Ibrahim 15/05/08
  354.   peter, I haven`t the time to answer your questions 04:07  |  Ibrahim 15/05/08
  355.   Zeev--a question (try 2)