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Religious homosexuals contend with Haredi condemnation
By Haaretz Staff and Channel 10
Tags: ultra-Orthodox, Homosexuality 
Haaretz.com/Channel 10 daily feature for May 11, 2008.

The ideological struggle between Jewish orthodoxy and homosexuality has been in the headlines since a Haredi man stabbed three people marching in the Jerusalem gay pride parade in 2005.

But that struggle isn't a black and white one. Naturally, within Jewish Orthodoxy, there are many who live their lives trying to reconcile their religious identity with their sexual orientation.


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      1.   what nonesense! 06:48  |  Jewish State 12/05/08
      2.   Shas Party Dehumanises Gays 08:42  |  Liliane 12/05/08
      3.   A few? I rather would say thousands 08:56  |  Puhi 12/05/08
      4.   As I said; Homosexuality is a new form of spirituality 09:10  |  Yaakov Sullivan 12/05/08
      5.   #1 Gay bashing is NOT the right way. We don`t bite. 09:13  |  Yaakov Sullivan 12/05/08
      6.   Orthodoxy and homosexuality 10:16  |  Yaakov Sullivan 12/05/08
      7.   When someone has a lot of aggression ... 10:23  |  Edith 12/05/08
      8.   No different than Shabbat violaters or Pesach pita eaters 10:33  |  Binyamin Dissen 12/05/08
      9.   THEY STABBED EM WITH KNIFE ? MAD HAREDI MAN 11:31  |  YITZAK BEN SHLOMO 12/05/08
      10.   A reversable condition 11:34  |  just a Jew 12/05/08
      11.   What Torah really condemns 11:35  |  Shmulik Parzal 12/05/08
      12.   much ado about a condition that can be treated 11:37  |  Jew-girl 12/05/08
      13.   Please stop legitamising chosen behavior 11:41  |  Another Jew 12/05/08
      14.   ho hum here we go again- psuedoscience and Jewbashing 11:41  |  Joanna 12/05/08
      15.   Not even a "condition" - a desire for a particular sin 13:00  |  Binyamin Dissen 12/05/08
      16.   An Orthodox response 13:33  |  Rickismom 12/05/08
      17.   # what a load on nonsense 13:45  |  SJ 12/05/08
      18.   Keep it in the closet w/ old shoes and clothes. 14:16  |  petra 12/05/08
      19.   to 12 and to Suulivan 14:39  |  Harry 12/05/08
      20.   clockwork orange 14:51  |  soggy liberal 12/05/08
      21.   Unnatural 15:02  |  christoph 12/05/08
      22.   Views of medical science 15:22  |  an MD 12/05/08
      23.   "Yaakov Sullivan" and those who pretend to be 16:00  |  Yaakov Sullivan 12/05/08
      24.   #12 & 22 16:11  |  Eric 12/05/08
      25.   Homosexualism 16:37  |  Nora 12/05/08
      26.   Hey Jew-girl! 16:54  |  CHGODMK 12/05/08
      27.   scriptures are clear 17:45  |  Bob 12/05/08
      28.   Gays are an abomination....read the Torah 18:07  |  Eliezer 12/05/08
      29.   Eliezer on "abominations" 18:25  |  Yaakov Sullivan 12/05/08
      30.   We Do Not Persecute People Who Suffer From a Disorder 18:45  |  MIKE 12/05/08
      31.   #13 We don`t do it "like an animal" yhis is simplistic 18:54  |  Yaakov Sullivan 12/05/08
      32.   homosexuality is sinful 19:19  |  Gregor 12/05/08
      33.   #26 and washing mouth with soap 19:27  |  Jewgirl 12/05/08
      34.   It is an urge that can be controlled 19:27  |  Binyamin Dissen 12/05/08
      35.   Why are you`ll going after Yaakov Sullivan ? 19:30  |  YITZAK BEN SHLOMO 12/05/08
      36.   #23 - pop science 19:32  |  Gregor 12/05/08
      37.   Abomination indeed! 19:36  |  A real jew 12/05/08
      38.   19 harry- who said the therapy was behavioristic? 19:37  |  Another Jew 12/05/08
      39.   Sj and ignorance of genetics. 19:39  |  Scientist 12/05/08
      40.   The fact is that Masters & Johnson, They COMMITED ADULTERY, 19:40  |  YITZAK BEN SHLOMO 12/05/08
      41.   Former Homosexual 19:41  |  Lev Tov 12/05/08
      42.   #17 and pathetic 19:42  |  Joanna 12/05/08
      43.   35 and mistakes in science 19:46  |  Scientist 12/05/08
      44.   Eric and finding the right therapist 19:49  |  Jew-girl 12/05/08
      45.   22 - go look up the latest research 19:52  |  Another MD 12/05/08
      46.   #36 Engaging in anal sex doesn`t make you evil. Jesus love us . 19:57  |  Yaakov Sullivan 12/05/08
      47.   #41 Good luck, but I don`t believe it`s possible 20:08  |  Yaakov Sullivan 12/05/08
      48.   Yakoub Suleiman, have you already adopted that child in Ramallah? 20:24  |  Gays Nightmare 12/05/08
      49.   #45--reversible? loads of rubbish 20:25  |  Jo 12/05/08
      50.   No Arabs/Muslims participate in this TB, Lakshmi, Indrarat,El-Bi 20:28  |  Genuine Tosefta 12/05/08
      51.   Gay does not make Yaakov Sullivan evil, Arab boyfriend does 20:39  |  Genuine Tosefta 12/05/08
      52.   DONT BE SHOCKED 20:40  |  YITZAK BEN SHLOMO 12/05/08
      53.   40 and jibbering gibberish 20:49  |  just a Jew 12/05/08
      54.   Get a brain 20:49  |  H 12/05/08
      55.   Jo#49 and verbose recycled propaganda 20:52  |  Scientist 12/05/08
      56.   #12 and 13. Why don`t you switch to be gaying if it`s so easy? 20:52  |  Laila 12/05/08
      57.   Jack Sullivan and temper tantrums 20:54  |  jennifer 12/05/08
      58.   #50 and obsolete nineteenth century "thinkers` 21:00  |  Jewboy 12/05/08
      59.   DONT BE SHOCKED (2) 21:02  |  YITZAK BEN SHLOMO 12/05/08
      60.   #50 and the mentality of the flasher 21:03  |  Jew-girl 12/05/08
      61.   #20 please dry up 21:07  |  Jewgirl 12/05/08
      62.   the facts behind H 21:18  |  Joanna 12/05/08
      63.   #48,51 Gay bashing and Yaakov Sullivan 21:20  |  Yaakov Sullivan 12/05/08
      64.   Laila and clouding the facts 21:21  |  Joanna 12/05/08
      65.   #56 and jumping to a confusion 21:23  |  Jew-girl 12/05/08
      66.   Jew-girl/Jewboy have you checked recent weeks execution records 21:31  |  Genuine Tosefta 12/05/08
      67.   @ 58 , SEE IF YOU COULD GRADUATE FROM THE SCHOOL - 21:34  |  YITZAK BEN SHLOMO 12/05/08
      68.   jennifer, jennifer, jennifer 21:43  |  Yaakov Sullivan 12/05/08
      69.   #51 So you hate me because of Hassan not my Christianity? 21:46  |  Yaakov Sullivan 12/05/08
      70.   @scientist and JewGirl- Mendelian genetics 101 22:07  |  Yalie08 12/05/08
      71.   I hate you because you hate us under the influence of Arab boyfri 22:25  |  Genuine Tosefta 12/05/08
      72.   44 Jew-Girl 22:33  |  Moises Cohen 12/05/08
      73.   #70 and irrelevancy 22:34  |  Scientist 12/05/08
      74.   #68 rant away, until they come with a nice new jacket, 22:38  |  Nice man with Jacket 12/05/08
      75.   #67 Quotes are no substitute for understanding 22:42  |  Jewboy 12/05/08
      76.   #62 Joanna 22:44  |  H 12/05/08
      77.   Yalie and misconstrued theorising 22:47  |  Jew-girl 12/05/08
      78.   Nice big words Yaley, pity that you do not know their meaning 22:54  |  Joanna 12/05/08
      79.   #72 are you joking or serious? 22:57  |  Jew-girl 12/05/08
      80.   H- I cant spell, you cannot think. 23:10  |  Joanna 12/05/08
      81.   I hate you because you hate us under the influence of Arab boyfri 23:21  |  Genuine Tosefta 12/05/08
      82.   In regards to #62 00:01  |  john 13/05/08
      83.   Yaakov Sullivan`s Catholicism.. 00:15  |  hollingsworth 13/05/08
      84.   Hey Jew-girl! 00:33  |  CHGODMK 13/05/08
      85.   Wow! Jew-girl! #44 00:59  |  CHGODMK 13/05/08
      86.   #49 Jo 01:13  |  Gregor 13/05/08
      87.   Yalie08 #70 01:32  |  Gregor 13/05/08
      88.   homosexuality; the scientific facts 05:04  |  Joseph 13/05/08
      89.   John and psyco-statistical research 09:21  |  Joanna 13/05/08
      90.   84-85 when in doubt attack? 09:27  |  Jew-girl 13/05/08
      91.   85 thank you for demonstrating your insecurity and misogynism 09:31  |  jennifer 13/05/08
      92.   Religiously motivated pseudoscience 09:32  |  Kalman 13/05/08
      93.   Credentials and#84 09:33  |  Jerusalemite 13/05/08
      94.   hollingsworth- hear hear 09:34  |  jennifer 13/05/08
      95.   More on religion and pseudoscience 09:35  |  Kalman 13/05/08
      96.   @ 67, YOU TELL THAT TO THOSE WHO WEAR CROSS! 09:51  |  YITZAK BEN SHLOMO 13/05/08
      97.   Scriptures 18:03  |  Misan 13/05/08
      98.   Kalman and Psuedoscience 20:24  |  Scientist 13/05/08
      99.   Kalman and missing links to apes 20:27  |  Scientist 13/05/08
      100.   Kalman and the mule 20:31  |  Joanna 13/05/08
      101.   #96: so open-minded the brains fell out 20:31  |  just a Jew 13/05/08
      102.   Former Homosexual 20:46  |  Lev Tov 13/05/08
      103.   Lev Tov and empty head 21:41  |  jennifer 13/05/08
      104.   misan, and abuse masquerading as love 09:05  |  just a Jew 14/05/08
      105.   get a clue, joanna 11:20  |  john 14/05/08
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