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Peres: I didn't imagine Qassams would be fired from Gaza after pullout
By Lily Galili, Haaretz Correspondent
Tags: Gaza, peace, Shimon Peres 

On the eve of Israel's 60th Independence Day, President Shimon Peres cites the country's achievements but he is also aware of the public's sense of cautious joy, and how that feeling exists despite the government, not because of it.

"So what?" he says in an interview this week at the President's Residence. "It's not terrible that there is no rejoicing at the government. Governments all over the world are losing their strength. Besides, the Jews gave the world dissatisfaction. Celebration is not a Jewish thing. Still, I'm optimistic, though I'm not satisfied."

Such an expression uses the plays on words Peres enjoys so much, but it does not mask the deep change in his rhetoric and of his world view. The past decade has handed him some disappointments.
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"Although in '98 everything seemed dark because of Rabin's murder, I believed we could still move the peace process ahead more quickly. I did not think we'd have so many problems. I believed the separation between the West Bank and Gaza would make things easier, not harder. I did not imagine that we would leave Gaza and they would fire Qassams from there; I did not imagine that Hamas would show so strongly in the elections.

This admission of disappointment, though not of despair, is not the only change in the man. He never used words like "revenge" or "destruction" before in a national sense. But he did use them in his speeches in Poland marking 65 years since the Warsaw Ghetto uprising. He described Israel's success after the Holocaust as "revenge," and the two intifadas as attempts to destroy Israel. It might be assumed that the rhetoric stemmed from the fact that this was Peres' first visit to Poland as president. However, Peres said, "It's not because I am president, it's because of Ahmadinejad," the president told Haaretz. "I identify a phenomenon similar to Hitler, and the world is once again indifferent. I can't say for sure he would behave like Hitler, but the world is taking him lightly. Not only we are isolated. The world has changed. We have become both more global and more individualistic."

If you had spoken like this in the past, you might still be prime minister.

"That could be, but I'm not sure it would be a good thing if I were prime minister. I can't say I did things this way on purpose, but the result allowed me to focus on things that were really important to me, and not on the need to govern. My record while I was not prime minister is richer than my record as prime minister, even though others were sometimes luckier than I was. Apparently history has its own wisdom."

We asked Peres to name what he thought were his greatest achievements. His response: relations with France, Operation Kadesh, Israel Aerospace Industries, the Dimona nuclear reactor, defense research, Entebbe, rehabilitation of the army after the Yom Kippur War, overcoming the inflation of the 1980s, peace with Jordan, Oslo, and the establishment of cities like Upper Nazareth.

Peres carefully skirts his contribution to the establishment of the settlement of Ofra, authorized when he was defense minister in 1975.

Peres sees Israel's biggest missed opportunity as the blocking of the London agreement in 1987 to transfer the West Bank to Jordanian control.

"I thought the option should be Jordanian, although that, too, was not without its problems," he recalls. "The question was, who would rule, Arafat or Hussein. To this day I have no doubt it was our biggest diplomatic mistake."

But Peres did not give up entirely. He continued to promote the Israeli-Jordanian-Palestinian economic initiative. Its map is a world away from the colonial division of the Sykes-Picot agreement dividing the country between the French and the British in 1916. "You can have economic and ethnic relationships, and not only political border," he says.

Experience, in our region too, actually shows that national interests outstrip economic ones.

"That may be, but national priorities change when a person goes from being poor to being middle class. I'm talking about economics not only in terms of money, but in a wider social sense."

On the assumption that we cannot proceed on two tracks simultaneously, is the Palestinian track preferable over the Syrian track?

"Without a doubt. Even if we have to speak to everyone who wants to talk to us, and although the Syrian issue seems easier, the Palestinian issue comes first. Even if only because the Syrian situation is static and the Palestinian is dynamic. Without Arafat, for example, we would not have gotten to Oslo. What influenced him, among other things, was that the Europeans embraced him."

Perhaps the lesson is to embrace Hamas, or at least not to choke it?

"There's no comparison. They managed to bend Arafat. In any case, the Fatah option must not be weakened."

That sounds depressing.

"Not at all. We only need to suit ourselves to changing circumstances, for good and for bad. To promote economic peace, which changes societies and at the same time suit our means of warfare to new threats. There's no point for an F16 to run after one terrorist. There must be other means and we have them. At this very moment there are 30 or 40 scientists creating innovative means of warfare. You have no idea of the IDF's strength. We chose not to use it, but it exists."

It seems that you are blaming the Palestinians more than in the past.

That's true. We became more flexible and they became more extreme. From this starting point I want to create good will toward Israel, to make friends."

It seems that the Jew in you was born after you were left last of your generation of giants.

Indeed, I have a feeling of responsibility to future heritage. I love this burden. Life should have significance."

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      1.   PERES WRONG ON EVERY SINGLE COUNT... 04:13  |  Joel Stern 07/05/08
      2.   Peres always says the obvious and does the unexpected. 04:21  |  Akram Zekaria 07/05/08
      3.   Peres and Olmert are defeatists and fools 04:22  |  Rachel 07/05/08
      4.   Did he think? 04:28  |  Mark Lincoln 07/05/08
      5.   Shimon Perez is an interesting man 04:29  |  Mark Lincoln 07/05/08
      6.   another dumb israeli... 04:42  |  kivi 07/05/08
      7.   Hypocrit ! 05:22  |  Pete 07/05/08
      8.   What world view can be so aberrant 05:22  |  Johnson 07/05/08
      9.   The Truth is no leader can fix ME crisis 05:34  |  Shimon Cleopas 07/05/08
      10.   PERES,REBBE SHNEERSON WARNED,AUTONOMY TALKS WILL COST CASUALTIES 05:53  |  VOICE of MOSHIACH))) 07/05/08
      11.   Really? 06:01  |  JJ 07/05/08
      12.   Peres - Too Often Surprised 06:13  |  Tod Zuckerman 07/05/08
      13.   Mr Peres as a highly literate man this must have slippped by you. 06:13  |  PETER SM 07/05/08
      14.   orthodox jews 06:40  |  zichron 07/05/08
      15.   "never imagined" 06:42  |  ron 07/05/08
      16.   "Didn`t think"..."Didn`t know" ... "Didn`t imagine" 06:50  |  Sima 07/05/08
      17.   Shows from Peres to Olmert to Kadima all have been a failure 06:52  |  THE WARRIOR 07/05/08
      18.   Peres also thinks we shouldn`t attack Iran. 07:36  |  Jerusalem Jew 07/05/08
      19.   Even A Child can see it 07:56  |  GA 07/05/08
      20.   Peres 08:09  |  disgusted 07/05/08
      21.   Simple Common Sense 08:13  |  A Non-US-Ally 07/05/08
      22.   Peres, you are a pipe dreamer. 08:20  |  Rafi 07/05/08
      23.   a lack of imagination 08:47  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 07/05/08
      24.   He though that the issue was the occupation. 08:50  |  Bartley Kulp 07/05/08
      25.   Peres was Surprised 08:52  |  Dr. David Feigenbaum 07/05/08
      26.   What is the reason that Palestinians shoot at us (question) 08:52  |  Bartley Kulp 07/05/08
      27.   Is Peres admitting that he made a mistake?? 09:17  |  Zev 07/05/08
      28.   The two Intifadas meant to destroy Israel !! 09:22  |  Steve the Pals. 07/05/08
      29.   What a pathetic person 09:30  |  Alex 07/05/08
      30.   Instead of a welcome mat: Hamas says KILL ALL JEWS 09:32  |  x-ray 07/05/08
      31.   Peres:"I didn`t imagine ......" 09:32  |  I.Kemp 07/05/08
      32.   YOU BETTER ASK SHARON WHY 09:33  |  indrajaya 07/05/08
      33.   A terrible quote from Peres: Israel in a nutshell 09:34  |  Clickfool 07/05/08
      34.   Qassams and Oslo 09:36  |  Gilad 07/05/08
      35.   it only proves 09:45  |  jojo 07/05/08
      36.   Peres is full of crap... What is going to say when he decides 09:45  |  a 07/05/08
      37.   Peres is from Mars 09:45  |  Dan Shapira 07/05/08
      38.   No illusion any more. 10:01  |  Vital 07/05/08
      39.   Leftists stupid and naive as usual 10:07  |  maurice 07/05/08
      40.   shameless hypocrisy 10:08  |  www.kibush.co.il 07/05/08
      41.   A hollow laugh is heard around the world 10:12  |  Clickfool 07/05/08
      42.   How could he have been PM, never mind president? 10:12  |  Harvey (Chaim) 07/05/08
      43.   Perez should read Gazan`s version of "Anne Frank" 10:14  |  Lisa 07/05/08
      44.   And why fire Pal. Qassams from Gaza? 10:15  |  Dav 07/05/08
      45.   Hubris unlimited 10:15  |  Elihu 07/05/08
      46.   One Must Question the Pal Goals 10:16  |  FOX 07/05/08
      47.   Warsaw Ghetto Freedom Fighters would have used Qassam Rockets 10:17  |  Adam 07/05/08
      48.   PERES didn`t imagine LOTS OF THINGS! 10:26  |  PADDY 07/05/08
      49.   OT: Bushco`s yearning for a pretext for attacking Iran 10:36  |  Clickfool 07/05/08
      50.   CFOOL"Re " -ARIEL SHARON said so" Where? When 10:39  |  PETER SM 07/05/08
      51.   #33 Click the village Idiot: Terrible quotes by Peres 10:42  |  Maxthe Horoscope 07/05/08
      52.   Your Right Adam, #47 10:45  |  FOX 07/05/08
      53.   CFOOL.Laughter around the world.Really Where has it been reported 10:46  |  PETER SM 07/05/08
      54.   Peres making peace 10:46  |  Voldemar Rifmovich 07/05/08
      55.   PADDY Your imagination is in full swing"rockets into open fields" 10:52  |  PETER SM 07/05/08
      56.   MORE concessions will NOT bring more peace 10:53  |  Lori 07/05/08
      57.   A proposal for Peter SM # 50 10:57  |  Clickfool 07/05/08
      58.   Don`t make same mistake on West Bank 10:57  |  Sam 07/05/08
      59.   peres didn`t imagine 10:58  |  habilp 07/05/08
      60.   You`re getting a bit pathetic, Peter SM # 53 11:01  |  Clickfool 07/05/08
      61.   West Bank and Jordan 11:09  |  Yossi 07/05/08
      62.   #47, Adam, if you were Warsaw Ghetto freedom fighters 11:09  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 07/05/08
      63.   Apparently Peres doesn`t do his homework 11:12  |  ARA 07/05/08
      64.   Israel, it`s time to get out of your (self-chosen) isolation..... 11:14  |  Swiss (Dino) 07/05/08
      65.   JUST like Warsaw Ghetto?1.UN relief agency&World media on site 11:19  |  PETER SM 07/05/08
      66.   IT WAS IRAN ENTERING THE EQUATION 11:28  |  Fortuna Benmayor 07/05/08
      67.   CFOO. If you have the quote present it.My postings threaten you? 11:29  |  PETER SM 07/05/08
      68.   Peres is a domestic Existential Threat to Israel 11:32  |  Joseph.E 07/05/08
      69.   CFOOL@60 You make a claim,why obfuscate? 11:33  |  PETER SM 07/05/08
      70.   Peres Speech 11:34  |  NK 07/05/08
      71.   Average israelis have become expendable 11:37  |  Dror 07/05/08
      72.   what a complete fool! 11:38  |  eddie 07/05/08
      73.   Yes, Israel pulled out of Gaza, but put it under Siege 11:40  |  El-Birawi 07/05/08
      74.   #64 Dino - been there; done that 11:41  |  Elihu 07/05/08
      75.   #57 Resonable proposal from CreativeFool 11:46  |  Ibrahom Shvonce 07/05/08
      76.   THAT`S B/C U R A PSEUDO LEFT DOGMATIC LUNATIC!!! 11:55  |  Ben 07/05/08
      77.   why Peres didn`t negotiate? 12:06  |  Manolo 07/05/08
      78.   All of Gaza can go to hell 12:06  |  Dror 07/05/08
      79.   RE 73 they were put after siege only after they attacked us 12:07  |  Joey 07/05/08
      80.   Cipora Julianna Kohn #23 12:24  |  examiner 07/05/08
      81.   disapointing 12:33  |  rm 07/05/08
      82.   Quassams from Warsaw Ghetto 12:34  |  Zev 07/05/08
      83.   Please never stop posting here Clicky 12:48  |  Dror 07/05/08
      84.   phony #81 rm 12:55  |  Dror 07/05/08
      85.   Peres 13:02  |  Barrieg 07/05/08
      86.   The more you give (land) the more you get (missiles) 13:04  |  POP 07/05/08
      87.   response to mark lincoln 13:06  |  Noobie 07/05/08
      88.   Then he should resign... 13:09  |  Boris 07/05/08
      89.   You mustn`t wriggle, Peter SM # 67 13:10  |  Clickfool 07/05/08
      90.   You`re right, Dror... 13:23  |  Linichka 07/05/08
      91.   Peres is always shape shifting 13:25  |  Dror 07/05/08
      92.   Mark Lincoln, still lying after all these years 13:27  |  peter 07/05/08
      93.   peres should quit immediately 13:34  |  lars 07/05/08
      94.   We did not imagine Peres as president of Israel , he 13:42  |  Sal 07/05/08
      95.   El-Birawi`s beat goes on 13:46  |  peter 07/05/08
      96.   more about Hamas 13:49  |  Noobie 07/05/08
      97.   I did not imagine - the main problem of the left fringe. 13:51  |  17 07/05/08
      98.   # 74 Elihu 13:54  |  Swiss (Dino) 07/05/08
      99.   # 73 El-Birawi 14:02  |  17 07/05/08
      100.   Lincoln, you had me fooled for awhile 14:03  |  Dror 07/05/08
      101.   IT JUST PROVES WHAT PALESTINIANS WOULD DO 14:07  |  Nicole 07/05/08
      102.   President Pollyanna 14:08  |  bob 07/05/08
      103.   shDUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 14:10  |  Rocket Man 07/05/08
      104.   Dror 91 14:17  |  Harvey (Chaim) 07/05/08
      105.   Linichka, there are too many of them to bother explaining 14:18  |  Dror 07/05/08
      106.   El Birawi, contextually challenged 14:45  |  FOX 07/05/08
      107.   PERES: all you need(ed) do is to read the PLO-Charter! 14:46  |  AliciaYasmeen 07/05/08
      108.   Thanks for the vote Chaim, in Londonistan 15:04  |  Dror 07/05/08
      109.   WHAT A MORON ! 15:10  |  Jew 07/05/08
      110.   #98 Dino - here`s the problem 15:11  |  Elihu 07/05/08
      111.   i didnt think says peres 15:15  |  gersh 07/05/08
      112.   Peres less than impressive 15:18  |  Tosefta 07/05/08
      113.   Crackna 15:30  |  Jabotinsky 07/05/08
      114.   PERES:I DINT IMAGINE QASSAMS..... 15:36  |  HENRYK 07/05/08
      115.   @Swiss (Dino) 15:40  |  Ralph 07/05/08
      116.   Peres didn`t think at all ! 15:57  |  Michael 07/05/08
      117.   #106 the FOX and the `Coup` 16:05  |  hubal 07/05/08
      118.   What`s the Pal offer for Israel to stop expanding? 16:08  |  Sam 07/05/08
      119.   Islam is the problem 17:04  |  arun 07/05/08
      120.   There are so many "Peres`s" in Israel 17:05  |  Miriam 07/05/08
      121.   Peres did not imagine! 17:16  |  Jack 07/05/08
      122.   out of touch with reality. why land for peace is false idea 17:26  |  ralph 07/05/08
      123.   DEAR MR PERES 17:39  |  LJF-CANADA 07/05/08
      124.   what kind of drugs is this addict on 17:43  |  abe 07/05/08
      125.   Islamist-Jihadist Deception Tactics 17:48  |  Brod 07/05/08
      126.   A list of failures by a failed man with failed vision. 17:57  |  common sense 07/05/08
      127.   Hubal`s comic book version of events 17:59  |  FOX 07/05/08
      128.   Tosefta speaking of honesty? #112 18:16  |  FOX 07/05/08
      129.   Peres: "I didn`t think" 18:28  |  Yanosh 07/05/08
      130.   ILLUSTRATES NICELY JUST HOW DELUDED THE LEFT`S THINKING IS 18:30  |  Right Makes Might 07/05/08
      131.   What is new? 18:32  |  Vent 07/05/08
      132.   "I didnt imagine" right.... 18:39  |  Jew against Kadima 07/05/08
      133.   Admission ... 18:54  |  Shalom 07/05/08
      134.   Is he CRAZY??? 19:01  |  Tali 07/05/08
      135.   # 110 Elihu 19:02  |  Swiss (Dino) 07/05/08
      136.   # 115 Ralph 19:04  |  Swiss (Dino) 07/05/08
      137.   That`s the problem with Oslo leftist liberals 19:14  |  Jon 07/05/08
      138.   FOX #127 19:40  |  hubal 07/05/08
      139.   PERES IS PROVEN TO BE WHAT EVERYBODY KNOWS HE IS 19:41  |  PalestniansAreA Myth 07/05/08
      140.   Peres in Shangra La 20:11  |  Connie 07/05/08
      141.   Happy birthday! 20:17  |  Morris Valentine 07/05/08
      142.   It wasn`t hard to figure out when 20:21  |  Scharker Yid 07/05/08
      143.   Peres can`t imagine 20:45  |  hollingsworth 07/05/08
      144.   create goodwill towards israel.....? 20:56  |  ravi 07/05/08
      145.   26... bartely kulp..... the answer 21:03  |  ravi 07/05/08
      146.   Assuming the worst in everyone else... 21:10  |  Gray 07/05/08
      147.   #80, examiner 21:26  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 07/05/08
      148.   He sounds alot like Chamberlain; If only Hitler didn`t lie! 22:49  |  Realist 07/05/08
      149.   peres a highly literate man? 22:51  |  lu 07/05/08
      150.   CFOOL I say if you had it you would quote it-verbatim.! 23:19  |  PETER SM 07/05/08
      151.   He didn`t imagine because HE IS STUPID 23:57  |  judith 07/05/08
      152.   Ah, you`re back, Peter SM # 150 00:12  |  Clickfool 08/05/08
      153.   Old age takes its toll 00:19  |  Jason Bourne 08/05/08
      154.   Pull out from Gaza does not mean Gaza is free. 00:28  |  Jaffar 08/05/08
      155.   Desired conclusions in the face of the reality P1 00:42  |  TonyL 08/05/08
      156.   Desired conclusions in the face of the reality P2 00:43  |  TonyL 08/05/08
      157.   Desired conclusions in the face of the reality P3 00:45  |  TonyL 08/05/08
      158.   Cipora Julianna Kohn #147 00:54  |  examiner 08/05/08
      159.   You don`t imagine rockets falling everywhere else in the country 00:55  |  Perez 08/05/08
      160.   Desired conclusions in the face of the reality P4 00:58  |  TonyL 08/05/08
      161.   #47 Adam; Another Moron comparing Gaza to Warsaw Ghetto 01:17  |  Max Zamir 08/05/08
      162.   hahaha 01:18  |  hohoho 08/05/08
      163.   "We have only need to suit ourselves..." 01:23  |  Maureen Ann 08/05/08
      164.   He also didn`t imagine that Arafat would start the Terror War 01:27  |  Ron 08/05/08
      165.   Just goes to show you.... 01:30  |  Eggbert 08/05/08
      166.   Tosefta - Peres 01:32  |  Mark Lincoln 08/05/08
      167.   Peres, and the Israeli left, is almost always wrong. 01:34  |  Chaim 08/05/08
      168.   Hosea, and what goes about 01:41  |  Mark Lincoln 08/05/08
      169.   Peres:"the Fatah option must not be weakened." 01:58  |  Aharon Rosenbaum 08/05/08
      170.   Ideologue 02:43  |  Mark Lincoln 08/05/08
      171.   CFOOL.Remember MENE MENE-you got that wrong too!! 02:55  |  PETER SM 08/05/08
      172.   Y`all missed the point 03:30  |  Doc Holliday 08/05/08
      173.   Peres:I didn`t imagine Qassams would be fired from 03:32  |  Akram Zekaria 08/05/08
      174.   62# Sorry Cipora I fight for existance above 04:31  |  Akram Zekaria 08/05/08
      175.   Peres 05:49  |  Paul 08/05/08
      176.   PETER SM No "imagination" needed... 06:12  |  PADDY 08/05/08
      177.   Mark Liar not Idealogue Lincoln 07:01  |  peter 08/05/08
      178.   63# ARE Israel might have to fight its war of Independence again. 07:04  |  Akram Zekaria 08/05/08
      179.   Greatest threat to Israel 07:05  |  Gray 08/05/08
      180.   "PADDY".Straight denial obviously suits you better.!! 07:08  |  PETER SM 08/05/08
      181.   #158, examiner 07:13  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 08/05/08
      182.   PADDY" More immagination" ?? Deny this!! 07:18  |  PETER SM 08/05/08
      183.   PETER SM- Ask the Zionists about sacrificing Jews in WW11 07:53  |  PADDY 08/05/08
      184.   Imagination seems to be selective 08:02  |  Ron 08/05/08
      185.   Hamas in its own words. 08:04  |  Jean Van Daem 08/05/08
      186.   For Peter SM, still windmilling with words # 150 09:18  |  Clickfool 08/05/08
      187.   #184 Jean Van Daem - Someone else`s words. 10:30  |  PADDY 08/05/08
      188.   Cipora 11:17  |  examiner 08/05/08
      189.   PADDY. Pal civillians deliberately put in danger.Spin away. 11:40  |  PETER SM 08/05/08
      190.   Entebbe is yours?! All these achievement are yours?!!?! 11:43  |  Alain 08/05/08
      191.   CFOOL still avoiding! trying to sell a pig in a poke,name calling 11:50  |  PETER SM 08/05/08
      192.   PADDY Zionists sacrificing Jews,in your web sites yes 11:55  |  PETER SM 08/05/08
      193.   peter (montreal) to M Lincoln. #177 Who is lying? 12:04  |  examiner 08/05/08
      194.   examiner 12:07  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 08/05/08
      195.   PADDY sacrificing Jews in WW2.By Brits to appease Arabs! 12:08  |  PETER SM 08/05/08
      196.   EXAMINER Newtons 3rd law 12:26  |  PETER SM 08/05/08
      197.   Tut, tut, Peter SM # 191 12:40  |  Clickfool 08/05/08
      198.   Peter SM/Cipora 12:56  |  examiner 08/05/08
      199.   to #198 13:24  |  Samo 08/05/08
      200.   examiner driving a Lincoln and crashes 13:43  |  peter 08/05/08
      201.   #200 peter(montreal) A blogger?! 14:07  |  examiner 08/05/08
      202.   CFOOL.believe what you like but, as usual you present no proof 14:24  |  PETER SM 08/05/08
      203.   EXMINER.DEMANDING from Israelis what you do not from its enemies 14:30  |  PETER SM 08/05/08
      204.   Shimon Peres 14:40  |  I.Gendelman 08/05/08
      205.   Who foresaw 6 million Jews tossed into ovens? 14:45  |  r 08/05/08
      206.   examiner keeps piddling 14:59  |  peter 08/05/08
      207.   60 Clickfool 15:16  |  leo 08/05/08
      208.   # 64 Swiss....what isolation? 15:18  |  Lynn 08/05/08
      209.   Why was Slowman so slow on Memorial Day night? 16:06  |  Lily Galili 08/05/08
      210.   the spectre of our enemy 16:08  |  Hashem loves Israel 08/05/08
      211.   Peres is a brilliant analyst, I fully endorse him! 16:24  |  Neville Chamberlain 08/05/08
      212.   President Peres, You Are Naive 16:35  |  MIKE 08/05/08
      213.   91# Dror. You are right in your preceptions But.. 17:05  |  Akram Zekaria 08/05/08
      214.   Peres is a big demagogue 19:25  |  Dwido 08/05/08
      215.   Peres has no brains - How could he imagine? 19:52  |  Dwido 08/05/08
      216.   The Gaza disengagement (Mark Lincoln #166) 20:36  |  Tosefta 08/05/08
      217.   Examiner (#201; re Peter the Great fantasizer) 20:50  |  Tosefta 08/05/08
      218.   #198, examiner 21:32  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 08/05/08
      219.   Examiner (#201; re Peter the Great fantasizer) 21:53  |  Tosefta 08/05/08
      220.   The Strength of the IDF 22:09  |  Howard 08/05/08
      221.   Cipora 22:25  |  examiner 08/05/08
      222.   Tosefta re peter(montreal)aka fantasiser 22:35  |  examiner 08/05/08
      223.   Cipora 23:09  |  examiner 08/05/08
      224.   Cipora (with Guardian link) 23:10  |  examiner 08/05/08
      225.   #219- arabist apologist whiffing again 23:43  |  peter 08/05/08
      226.   Olmert will resign soon 00:11  |  Dror 09/05/08
      227.   Our Great Fantasizer (Examiner #201) 01:29  |  Tosefta 09/05/08
      228.   Yeah, I figured it would be worse 01:59  |  Redneck Jew 09/05/08
      229.   Tosefta - Gaza disengagement 02:10  |  Mark Lincoln 09/05/08
      230.   #222. Don`t be surprised if Olmert flees to NY to escape justice. 02:18  |  Chaim 09/05/08
      231.   THE SUBCONSCIOUS "DRIVER" - So nothing will change 03:02  |  FRITZ 09/05/08
      232.   Peres Did`nt Imagine... 05:54  |  Jack de Lowe 09/05/08
      233.   Mr. Peres seems so clueless about the nature of man 06:37  |  Dutch 09/05/08
      234.   peres is senile,or untruthfull? 07:20  |  billy jack 09/05/08
      235.   #195 PETER SM _ USE YOUR BRAIN - I know your "mouth" works. 07:48  |  PADDY 09/05/08
      236.   arabist apologist clicking his heels with examiner 08:03  |  peter 09/05/08
      237.   Being free the Gaza way 09:04  |  Jasmine Murphy 09/05/08
      238.   The 2 Intifadas meant to destroy Israel? 09:10  |  Palestinian Prince 09/05/08
      239.   For Leo # 207 09:12  |  Clickfool 09/05/08
      240.   Mark Lincoln #166 reference to Sharon 09:16  |  Palestinian Prince 09/05/08
      241.   # 19 to ga in dallas 09:56  |  eric 09/05/08
      242.   Peres` Age & reduced mental ability 02:42  |  * BEN JABO 10/05/08
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