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Hamas' political leader Khaled Meshal. (AP)
Last update - 00:00 21/04/2008
Meshal offers 10-year truce for Palestinian state on '67 borders
By Barak Ravid, Haaretz Correspondent and News Agencies
Tags: Khaled Meshal, Israel, Hamas 

Hamas' political leader Khaled Meshal on Monday said Hamas would accept a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip along Israel's pre-1967 borders, and would grant Israel a 10-year hudna, or truce, as an implicit proof of recognition if Israel withdraws from those areas.

Meshal's comments were one of the clearest outlines Hamas has given for what it would do if Israel withdrew from the territories it captured in the 1967 Six Day War. He suggested Hamas would accept Israel's existence alongside a Palestinian state on the rest of the lands Israel has held since 1948.
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However, Meshal told reporters in Damascus that Hamas would not formally recognize Israel.

"We agree to a [Palestinian] state on pre-67 borders, with Jerusalem as its capital with genuine sovereignty without settlements but without recognizing Israel," Meshaal said.

"We have offered a truce if Israel withdraws to the 1967 borders, a truce of 10 years as a proof of recognition," he said. He said he made the offer to former U.S. President Jimmy Carter during talks Friday and Saturday in the Syrian capital.

Meshal used the Arabic word hudna, meaning truce, which is more concrete than tahdiya - a period of calm - which Hamas often uses to describe a simple cease-fire. Hudna implies a recognition of the other party's existence.

A government spokesman also said Israel was unimpressed by Meshaal's statement.

"Israel is targeted on a daily basis by rocket barrages from Hamas controlled territory in the Gaza Strip. Israel sees no change in Hamas's extremist positions," said David Baker, a spokesman in Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's office.

In Washington, the U.S. State Department said there is no indication that Hamas wants peace with Israel. "It is pretty clear to us that there is no acceptance on the part of Hamas of any kind of negotiated settlement," said deputy spokesman Tom Casey.

Casey said there had been contradictory statements from Hamas officials over whether they would accept the result of a referendum on a peace deal.

Earlier in Jerusalem, Carter said that Hamas is prepared to accept the Israel's right to "live in peace" within 1967 borders.

"There's no doubt that both the Arab world and the Palestinians, including Hamas, will accept Israel's right to live in peace within the 1967 borders."

Hamas has previously claimed all of what is now Israel and the West Bank and Gaza, and its charter calls for the destruction of Israel. Meshal did not address whether the group would consider changing it. But his comments were one of the strongest Hamas statements in favor of a two-state solution.

"This is Hamas' clear vision," Meshal added. He said the future Palestinian state must have Jerusalem as its genuine, sovereign capital. He appeared to be referring to East Jerusalem, since Israel held west Jerusalem before 1967.

Carter's comments came after he met after he met last week with the top Hamas leaders, including Meshal, in Syria.

Carter was back in Jerusalem this week to brief Israeli leaders on his talks with Meshal regarding a proposed truce between Israel and Hamas in the Gaza Strip as well as an exchange of prisoners between them.

Carter: Hamas would accept Israel-PA deal if Palestinians vote for it
The former U.S. president told reporters in Jerusalem on Monday that Hamas leaders said they would accept a peace agreement negotiated by their rival, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, if Palestinians approved the deal in a vote.

"They said they would accept a Palestinian state on the 1967 borders if approved by Palestinians ... even though Hamas might disagree with some terms of the agreement," Carter said in a speech, after talks in Syria and Egypt with Hamas leaders.

"It means that Hamas will not undermine Abbas' efforts to negotiate an agreement and Hamas will accept an agreement if the Palestinians support it in a free vote," he said.

But Carter said he was told by Hamas that a referendum on a peace deal must be preceded by reconciliation between the group and Abbas' Fatah faction. Hamas seized the Gaza Strip from Fatah in fighting in June.

A Hamas official in the Gaza Strip also referred to a series of preconditions raised by the Islamist group for assenting to a deal with Israel.

Sami Abu Zuhri said Palestinian refugees living in exile must be included in the voting - a condition that could complicate approval of a deal.

Abu Zuhri also noted that Hamas, which refuses to recognize Israel, would regard any future Palestinian state in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, territories Israel captured in the 1967 Six Day War, as "transitional".

Speaking later to reporters, Carter said Hamas leaders whom he met "didn't say anything about transitional".

Unlike Abbas, who sought a Palestinian state side-by-side with Israel, Abu Zuhri said Hamas's outstanding position not to recognize Israel's right to exist remained unchanged despite of its acceptance of a state in 1967 borders.

Carter said Hamas turned down his proposal for a 30-day unilateral cease-fire with Israel but Egypt would continue its efforts to mediate a truce.

"I did the best I could on that," Carter said of his failure to persuade Hamas to halt rocket fire from the Gaza Strip.


Carter: Hamas ready to release letter from Shalit
Carter also told Trade Minister Eli Yishai on Monday that Hamas was prepared to release another letter from abducted Israel Defense Forces soldier Gilad Shalit to his family.

According to Carter, Meshal has promised that Shalit - who was kidnapped by Hamas militants in a cross-border raid in June 2006 - is in good physical health.

Carter told Yishai that Hamas was prepared to transfer Shalit into Egyptian hands as part of a packaged deal which would include the release of Palestinian prisoners.

The former U.S. leader said the Islamists had no opposition to releasing the soldier as part of a prisoner swap. He also asked Yishai to consider meeting with officials in Egypt regarding Shalit's release.

Yishai responded that he has already met with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and the Egyptian intelligence chief, Omar Suleiman, on the matter, but said he would consider another meeting.

The former U.S. leader told Yishai that Meshal had appreciated Yishai's offer to meet with the Islamist group regarding the Shalit deal, but did not want to compromise Egyptian mediation by doing so.

'Problem is refusal of U.S., Israel to meet Hamas'

Carter also told reporters following his return to Israel on Monday the "problem" was not his decision to meet with the Islamist group, but rather the refusal of Israel and the U.S. to do the same.

"The problem is not that I met with with Hamas in Syria. The problem is that Israel and the United States refuse to meet with someone who must be involved," the former U.S. leader said during a speech in Jerusalem.

He urged Israel to engage in direct negotiations with Hamas, saying failure to do so was hampering peace efforts.

"We do not believe that peace is likely and certainly that peace is not
sustainable unless a way is found to bring Hamas into the discussions in some way," he said. "The present strategy of excluding Hamas and excluding Syria is just not working."

In his comments Monday, Carter said Israeli-Palestinian peacemaking has
regressed since a U.S.-hosted Middle East conference in Annapolis, Maryland, in November.

Speaking about the possibility of renewed peace talks between Israel and
Syria, he said Syria wants the U.S. to play a strong role in bringing to two sides together.

Both the Israeli and U.S. governments disapprove of Carter's overtures to
Hamas. Over the weekend, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said he decided not to meet with Carter in Israel because he does not wish to be seen as
participating in any negotiations with Hamas.


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      1.   Question: How do you make peace without talking to your enemy? 11:01  |  Natallie Durson 21/04/08
      2.   I agree with Jimmy Carter 11:18  |  Edith 21/04/08
      3.   and why doesn`t the Israeli govt want peace? 11:25  |  Sean 21/04/08
      4.   #1: You annihilate your enemy, WWII style 11:27  |  Johnny 21/04/08
      5.   Answer: by defeating them. 11:35  |  msh 21/04/08
      6.   Hegemonic conceptions 11:39  |  Rowan (Niqnaq) 21/04/08
      7.   very odd 11:44  |  just me 21/04/08
      8.   This is the Arab position, What is Israel 11:47  |  El-Birawi 21/04/08
      9.   Sadly GB Bush and Olmert Don`t have an iota of Carter`s Wisdom 11:48  |  Johan Odin 21/04/08
      10.   WHY THIS YISHAI AGAIN HAARETZ 11:52  |  indrajaya 21/04/08
      11.   BELIEVE ME ON THIS 11:57  |  indrajaya 21/04/08
      12.   Peace = Low Oil Prices 12:03  |  Phil 21/04/08
      13.   note the "slight" differences...slight of hand?? 12:05  |  Meir Gush Etzion 21/04/08
      14.   Therein lies the rub...... 12:07  |  Clickfool 21/04/08
      15.   Jimmy Carter, we thank you very much for your efforts....... 12:10  |  Swiss (Dino) 21/04/08
      16.   Israel has the right to "live as neighbor" 12:21  |  Johnny Weintraub 21/04/08
      17.   4 Can`t annihilate a billion Muslims. No military solution. 12:22  |  Michael 21/04/08
      18.   A terrorist organization like Hamas doesn`t change ! 12:23  |  Jean Van Daem 21/04/08
      19.   Carter is Bound by US Constitution; Hamas By Their Covenant 12:25  |  Ovadiah ben Avraham 21/04/08
      20.   Jimmuh says that Hamas will accept Israel 12:29  |  Michael 21/04/08
      21.   Sure.. Hamas needs a Target for its Qassam 12:31  |  isratinian 21/04/08
      22.   Clickfool..Israel has been willing..sadly it may now be too late 12:35  |  Meir Gush Etzion 21/04/08
      23.   Talk is cheap, let`s hear it from Hamas 12:36  |  Joe Sittizen 21/04/08
      24.   Durson is correct, no peace until Hamas talks 12:42  |  Joe Sittizen 21/04/08
      25.   Clickfool - there are no 1967 borders 12:47  |  Adrian de Klerk 21/04/08
      26.   Carter 12:48  |  Fredy Ross 21/04/08
      27.   What a relief 12:59  |  Ofer from Ofer 21/04/08
      28.   #14 Read it properly 13:01  |  Rab Burns 21/04/08
      29.   Hamas and Arab Terms for Peace - Never!!! 13:04  |  Yossi 21/04/08
      30.   El Biravi, I want to hear Meshal say it in Arabic 13:05  |  I 21/04/08
      31.   Why so upset with me, as usual I am right .... 13:09  |  Indraja 21/04/08
      32.   Nothing new here 13:09  |  Atoo 21/04/08
      33.   Michael #17 re-read my post, also mentioned declining support 13:19  |  Johnny 21/04/08
      34.   # 4 Johnny 13:20  |  Bob 21/04/08
      35.   Nothing New - Hamas Still Rejects Israel`s Right to Exist 13:28  |  Scott 21/04/08
      36.   For Adrian De Clerk, nitpicking # 22 13:28  |  Clickfool 21/04/08
      37.   Make Hamas say it themselves 13:29  |  Awake 21/04/08
      38.   Cheap argument,Mr EX 13:32  |  drdanielito 21/04/08
      39.   Hamas STILL does not recognize Israel`s right to exist. 13:35  |  TurkishJew 21/04/08
      40.   Does anybody care what Hamas or Carter are saying 13:42  |  Sal 21/04/08
      41.   I`m sorry, are there really people this stupid? 13:49  |  Stephanie 21/04/08
      42.   Next letter form Shalit: No more than propaganda for Hamas 13:49  |  Catholic Israeli 21/04/08
      43.   # 15 Swiss...end the blockade 13:50  |  Lynn 21/04/08
      44.   Question: How do you make peace with Palestinians, who as a... 13:56  |  Avi 21/04/08
      45.   HAMASNIKS ARE GETTING "LARGE", THEY 13:58  |  Robert 21/04/08
      46.   How Is this Peace Agreement Enforceable? 14:04  |  Merle 21/04/08
      47.   same ol storey: izzy doesn`t want peace when winning 14:05  |  but 21/04/08
      48.   Carter lost sense of reality 14:10  |  Christoph M 21/04/08
      49.   Johnny 33 You`re wrong. 14:13  |  Michael 21/04/08
      50.   Jimmy the Dhimmi 14:13  |  ATLAS 21/04/08
      51.   the key word here is "TRANSITIONAL" 14:14  |  Vera 21/04/08
      52.   #36 Clickfool 14:14  |  Stephanie 21/04/08
      53.   Next letter form Shalit: No more than propaganda for Hamas 14:15  |  Catholic Israeli 21/04/08
      54.   The Problem: "peace" and the Charters exclude each other 14:16  |  AliciaYasmeen 21/04/08
      55.   Let us hear from the Jewish side 14:23  |  El-Birawi 21/04/08
      56.   Natallie D 14:35  |  Steve 21/04/08
      57.   perhaps jimmy carter can go to switzerland 14:44  |  toblerone 21/04/08
      58.   to the hamas thugs and murderers and butchers 14:50  |  harzion 21/04/08
      59.   From the Jewish side El-Birawi 14:50  |  ATLAS 21/04/08
      60.   Egyptians should have been left alone to broker the deal 14:51  |  Lynn 21/04/08
      61.   #55 El-Birawi 14:52  |  TurkishJew 21/04/08
      62.   EL BIRAWI Israel made its offer Arafat rejected it&chose intifada 15:07  |  PETER SM 21/04/08
      63.   "BUT" you won in Lebanon didn`t you? 15:11  |  PETER SM 21/04/08
      64.   1967 BORDERS 15:13  |  Brant 21/04/08
      65.   indra:Your Jemaah Islamiyah is recognized as TERRORIST GROUP even 15:14  |  Vittorio 21/04/08
      66.   How shall I love thee? 15:14  |  Gideon Reader 21/04/08
      67.   nice try carter, but it`s time to count hamas OUT! 15:18  |  eric 21/04/08
      68.   # 17 Michael of UK....well, Hamas has turned another one down 15:21  |  Lynn 21/04/08
      69.   Good Carter, Now Back to Looking For Nessie! 15:24  |  Alex 21/04/08
      70.   ISRAEL SEEKS LAND NOT PEACE 15:31  |  JH 21/04/08
      71.   Hamas willing to make peace 15:46  |  Shimshon 21/04/08
      72.   Peace 15:48  |  Keeshond 21/04/08
      73.   Mishal is being too generous,Hamas should not accept anything 15:48  |  lakshmi 21/04/08
      74.   Unless of course they decide NO 16:08  |  steve from Raleigh 21/04/08
      75.   how shall someone be involved in a peace process... 16:14  |  scallywag 21/04/08
      76.   Durson`s Dilemna Best Solved With Proper Research 16:21  |  Lavi 21/04/08
      77.   Lynn 68 So call their bluff. 16:22  |  Michael 21/04/08
      78.   If you read what Hamas said..they will support a temporary state 16:26  |  walkmytalk 21/04/08
      79.   To #58 harzion: definition of thugs, murderers & butchers 16:26  |  Human Rights 21/04/08
      80.   NO 1967 borders until the terrorists can STOP 16:27  |  The Equalizer 21/04/08
      81.   Israel: Divide, and rule out 16:32  |  Tosefta 21/04/08
      82.   Make no agreements 16:34  |  roger wallace 21/04/08
      83.   "1967 Borders" OUT OF THE QUESTION. 16:36  |  Dagma 21/04/08
      84.   LAKSHMI AND THE RIGHT OF RETURN 16:36  |  Brant 21/04/08
      85.   tooth fairy 16:37  |  greg 21/04/08
      86.   #46 Merle: Israel likes only the language of violence 16:39  |  Human Rights 21/04/08
      87.   Carter 16:46  |  Gary 21/04/08
      88.   Carter`s talks with Hamas 16:47  |  Jack 21/04/08
      89.   Clickfool # 14. 16:48  |  David Nigel Braham 21/04/08
      90.   For any Jew who trusts Carter 16:49  |  Daniel 21/04/08
      91.   Here We Go Again! The Racist Lakshmi From Pakistan 16:49  |  Eli 21/04/08
      92.   carter 16:51  |  hokkanen 21/04/08
      93.   HAS A CRITICAL MASS EMERGED? 16:54  |  Mohamed MALLECK 21/04/08
      94.   CARTER/HAMAS 16:55  |  ILL 21/04/08
      95.   "HUMANRIGHTS" thugs&barbarians dance in the streets 16:56  |  PETER SM 21/04/08
      96.   #19 Ovadiah 16:58  |  Space 21/04/08
      97.   Israel attacked 17:01  |  x Time 21/04/08
      98.   So when is Carter going to meet with Osama bin-Laden?!? 17:09  |  Jacob Blues 21/04/08
      99.   Wishful Thinking VS Unpleasant Truth 17:09  |  massaraksh 21/04/08
      100.   Golan Heights Belongs To Israel Its A Done Deal 17:12  |  Shepherd 21/04/08
      101.   lakshmi and the right of return. 17:13  |  17 21/04/08
      102.   human rights 17:14  |  harzion 21/04/08
      103.   #3 17:14  |  Moshe 21/04/08
      104.   differences already resolved 17:14  |  Shmuelshachor 21/04/08
      105.   making no agreements 17:19  |  roger wallace 21/04/08
      106.   there can never be peace w jihadists 17:21  |  alan 21/04/08
      107.   Land for peace? Has it ever worked? 17:23  |  Sam 21/04/08
      108.   Israel: Divide, and rule out 17:23  |  Tosefta 21/04/08
      109.   To Tosefta (#81) 17:28  |  Morris Valentine 21/04/08
      110.   Peter SM 17:28  |  Walt 21/04/08
      111.   Syria wants US involvement 17:30  |  Tosefta 21/04/08
      112.   is tosefta a zombie? 17:30  |  harzion 21/04/08
      113.   Hamas spokesman just yesterday contradicted all that Carter says 17:34  |  McQueen 21/04/08
      114.   So Strange 17:35  |  PlanoStu 21/04/08
      115.   "HUMANRIGHTS"ISRAEL well understands YOUR language of violence 17:36  |  PETER SM 21/04/08
      116.   The 67 borders 17:41  |  danite 21/04/08
      117.   # 7 just me Beer Sheva..Yes Very Odd.Briefly Put. 17:42  |  KATHY 21/04/08
      118.   # 1 Natallie Durson - Did Allies talke to Germany 17:46  |  17 21/04/08
      119.   HARZION: A BIT HARSH 17:46  |  Brant 21/04/08
      120.   What a load ! Carter Does Not Believe It, But Says It Anyhow 17:48  |  Tod Zuckerman 21/04/08
      121.   101 17,In customary international law there is right of 17:52  |  lakshmi 21/04/08
      122.   WALT.who is forcing you to read my replies to the"Pals can do no 17:53  |  PETER SM 21/04/08
      123.   # 106 alan there can never be peace w jihadists.Well .. 17:55  |  KATHY 21/04/08
      124.   24 Sittizen 17:55  |  Jose Marcio 21/04/08
      125.   Syrian talks 18:00  |  Mike 21/04/08
      126.   # 100 Shepherd..Golan Heights Belongs To Israel Its A Done Deal 18:02  |  KATHY 21/04/08
      127.   The JOKE!.... `TO LIVE IN PEACE WTHIN 1967 B ORDERS 18:07  |  PLAYBOY 21/04/08
      128.   LAKSHMI there is NO law for right of return 18:08  |  PETER SM 21/04/08
      129.   Clickfolol (14), sadly the Germans are not prepared live within 18:09  |  Karl 21/04/08
      130.   brant i like your reason 18:15  |  harzion 21/04/08
      131.   Will Carter kill the last chance for a peace agreement?? 18:17  |  Voice of Reason 21/04/08
      132.   # 121 Lakshmi - "Right " of return 18:19  |  17 21/04/08
      133.   Natalie : how to make peace #1 18:20  |  Antonietta 21/04/08
      134.   93 Mohammed Malleck,this may interest you: 18:20  |  lakshmi 21/04/08
      135.   #119 Brant re:harzion Was not being harsh,But Saying the truth. 18:20  |  KATHY 21/04/08
      136.   Karl 18:22  |  Shlomo 21/04/08
      137.   The palestinians v. the jew - Back to 1967 borders 18:23  |  Onlooker 21/04/08
      138.   #1 NUTallie Durson 18:29  |  * BEN JABO 21/04/08
      139.   Indraja #31 18:33  |  Retread 21/04/08
      140.   # 128 Peter SM There is no RoR under International Law. 18:35  |  KATHY 21/04/08
      141.   To lakshmi # 73 - Meshal the kind and generous..... 18:46  |  charlie 21/04/08
      142.   Zionism is about taking Arab land. Read Herzl`s 18:56  |  "What`s in a name" 21/04/08
      143.   #137 Onlooker..The palestinians v. the jew - Back to 1967 borders 18:59  |  KATHY 21/04/08
      144.   Understanding Jews (Morris Valentine #109) 19:01  |  Tosefta 21/04/08
      145.   Leftist pipe dreams 19:03  |  Alex 21/04/08
      146.   Hamas did not say Israel has a right to live in peace 19:04  |  B (The other one) 21/04/08
      147.   Sure. peace is what Meshal wants... 19:08  |  Avi 21/04/08
      148.   no recognition, no peace 19:08  |  frenz 21/04/08
      149.   #2 When they fire rockets at Belgium let us see 19:08  |  Laila 21/04/08
      150.   # 131 Voice of Reason. Carter Convulsed/ put A nail In the Coffin 19:09  |  KATHY 21/04/08
      151.   America will not allow it 19:10  |  Bob 21/04/08
      152.   A pompous naive Navil Chamberlain paid by the Arabs 19:10  |  Albert 21/04/08
      153.   #121 Jews from Arab land not returning and nor are Palestinians 19:14  |  Laila 21/04/08
      154.   There will be peace only when 19:16  |  Harold 21/04/08
      155.   tosefta "jews think everyone is against them" 19:17  |  harzion 21/04/08
      156.   So far no one offer to state Jewish position on peace 19:17  |  El-Birawi 21/04/08
      157.   Tosefta 19:19  |  Danite 21/04/08
      158.   Trade your peanut farms as compensation to Syria 19:26  |  lily 21/04/08
      159.   Just the facts 19:27  |  Abu 21/04/08
      160.   Bull... Hamas already denied it. 19:30  |  Fortuna Benmayor 21/04/08
      161.   next Carter will probably meet Binladin 19:33  |  Abu Yusuf 21/04/08
      162.   #144 Tosefta of Teveria 19:36  |  Elihu 21/04/08
      163.   Laksmi and El-Birawi 19:40  |  Abdul Aziz Higazi 21/04/08
      164.   Abu Yusuf #161 19:43  |  AlBoulbol 21/04/08
      165.   That`s What I Was Afraid Of... 19:43  |  Yosemite 21/04/08
      166.   Lakshmi and El-Birawi 19:44  |  Debbah 21/04/08
      167.   # 144 Tosefta`s Ego..By His Definition Us The "untermenchen" Jews 19:54  |  KATHY 21/04/08
      168.   Dino the innocent Swiss 20:01  |  Neighbour 21/04/08
      169.   Re: 144 - Tosefta - Understanding Jews (Morris Valentine #109) 20:02  |  PlanoStu 21/04/08
      170.   #134 Thanks, Lakshmi 20:03  |  Mohamed MALLECK 21/04/08
      171.   # 158 Lilli...Carter and his Folly 20:04  |  KATHY 21/04/08
      172.   Dino #15: wake up from your blue-eyed naivety, Dino - 20:05  |  ivo 21/04/08
      173.   An offer hedged about with conditions 20:06  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 21/04/08
      174.   Re: 156 - El-Birawi 20:07  |  PlanoStu 21/04/08
      175.   Hamas says will not accept a Jewish state 20:08  |  Ilan 21/04/08
      176.   # 43 Lynn 20:08  |  Swiss (Dino) 21/04/08
      177.   The pinnacle of naivete 20:09  |  Wallace Irvine 21/04/08
      178.   Moris Valentine re :Tosefta on Jews 20:11  |  17 21/04/08
      179.   #124 Jose Marcio 20:11  |  Joe Sittizen 21/04/08
      180.   #!, How do you make peace...? 20:12  |  Doron 21/04/08
      181.   Who is Carter? A Failed President 20:13  |  Mike 21/04/08
      182.   Paranoids and reality (Elihu #162) 20:14  |  Tosefta 21/04/08
      183.   #1 - natalie, the answer is kill them 20:15  |  common sense 21/04/08
      184.   Woof Woof, Dumbite #157 20:15  |  Tony the Poodle 21/04/08
      185.   ]#144 Tosefta & his fantasies: he`s hit a new low mark 20:18  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 21/04/08
      186.   if Israel even considered the offer... 20:19  |  Nathan 21/04/08
      187.   132 17,wrong on 2 counts! The UN Resolution 181,the Partition 20:19  |  lakshmi 21/04/08
      188.   Meshal, that`s excellent news, but 20-30 years..... 20:20  |  Swiss (Dino) 21/04/08
      189.   Morris Valentine: your romantic view of Carter - 20:24  |  ivo 21/04/08
      190.   it took Israel 20 years to implement one single resolution 20:25  |  El-Birawi 21/04/08
      191.   # 168 Neighbour, time for a reality check..... 20:29  |  Swiss (Dino) 21/04/08
      192.   In turn Meshal could be offered 10 days to dissapear 20:29  |  Sal 21/04/08
      193.   BULL! 20:31  |  Avram 21/04/08
      194.   187 - Lakshmi Still Wrong on the Law 20:33  |  JP 21/04/08
      195.   what a confusion 20:35  |  scallywag 21/04/08
      196.   # 187 lakshmui 20:35  |  17 21/04/08
      197.   What does "transitional" mean ? 20:35  |  Avrum 21/04/08
      198.   #188 - Swiss(Dino) - Or even forever...& without all the hedging 20:36  |  JP 21/04/08
      199.   Price given, now the bargaining begins 20:38  |  Harry 21/04/08
      200.   Golan Heights 20:39  |  Brian 21/04/08
      201.   # 172 ivo 20:41  |  Swiss (Dino) 21/04/08
      202.   SEIZE THE OPPORTUNITY 20:42  |  Yerushalmi 21/04/08
      203.   What Garbage--Why do you print this even?? 20:42  |  andreas skjelling 21/04/08
      204.   Tosefta, vile creature, "expert" on Jewish mind 20:42  |  Jewboy 21/04/08
      205.   # 178 *17* Morris Valentine e:Tosefta on Jews.And 20:43  |  KATHY 21/04/08
      206.   El-Birawi, it took Arabs 50 years 20:50  |  Jewboy 21/04/08
      207.   #191 - Swiss(Dino) - Another Bit of Reality 20:52  |  JP 21/04/08
      208.   170 Mphammed Mallek,do check out 20:56  |  lakshmi 21/04/08
      209.   And after 10 yrs? 20:57  |  Mr Ipp 21/04/08
      210.   CARTER 20:58  |  ANDY 21/04/08
      211.   # 198 JP 20:58  |  Swiss (Dino) 21/04/08
      212.   Peace Through Superior Firepower 20:58  |  Joshua of Zion 21/04/08
      213.   Implicit conditions for future war 21:00  |  Joe Sittizen 21/04/08
      214.   10 Year Truce I Told You! 21:02  |  Yosemite 21/04/08
      215.   Understanding some Jews (Morris Valentine #144) 21:03  |  Tosefta 21/04/08
      216.   Finally! 21:04  |  nate 21/04/08
      217.   A Complete Non-Starter 21:04  |  Scrolls 21/04/08
      218.   unacceptable 21:05  |  Al 21/04/08
      219.   Meshal offers 10-year truce for Palestinian state on `67 borders 21:06  |  Paul 21/04/08
      220.   To El Birawi. 190. Improve the lives of Pals children 21:08  |  Altalena 21/04/08
      221.   #209 Mr Ipp 21:10  |  Al 21/04/08
      222.   My apologies, Adrian # 36 21:10  |  Clickfool 21/04/08
      223.   El-Birawi, no answer to PlanoStu? 21:12  |  Iwarib-le 21/04/08
      224.   #46 Merle 21:15  |  Boycott 21/04/08
      225.   To El Birawi # 156 21:15  |  utagawa 21/04/08
      226.   Dino #201: you really are a blue-eyed boyscout, Dino - 21:16  |  ivo 21/04/08
      227.   Dont fall for it 21:16  |  arun 21/04/08
      228.   Ivo`s complaint (#189; re Morris Valentine) 21:17  |  Tosefta 21/04/08
      229.   # 207 JP Another Bit of Reality ...I`ll say! 21:18  |  KATHY 21/04/08
      230.   Carter breaks some Ice in his visit, just need to continue 21:19  |  Ron 21/04/08
      231.   for clickfool 21:21  |  leo 21/04/08
      232.   Carter could be jailed for talking to Hamas 21:22  |  arun 21/04/08
      233.   According to Carter, not hamas which want to destroy Israel. 21:23  |  Avram 21/04/08
      234.   10 years to re-arm and grow their numbers by another 30% 21:23  |  Mikey 21/04/08
      235.   Very generous of Meshal, wants a state forever in exchange for 21:24  |  Genuine Tosefta 21/04/08
      236.   And after 10 years what? 21:24  |  Ronald 21/04/08
      237.   # 188 Swiss(Dino) How naive can you be. Excellent news eh? WakeUp 21:26  |  KATHY 21/04/08
      238.   What about this better deal for you Meshal? 21:29  |  Genuine Tosefta 21/04/08
      239.   Dino #201: you really are a blue-eyed boyscout, Dino - 2 21:31  |  ivo 21/04/08
      240.   Abu Yusuf #161 21:32  |  El Effendi 21/04/08
      241.   # 181 Mike..Who is Carter?A Failed President.(2nd Try) 21:35  |  KATHY 21/04/08
      242.   "proof of recognition" of WHAT?! 21:36  |  McQueen 21/04/08
      243.   Hamas and truce 21:37  |  Naftali 21/04/08
      244.   # 77 Michael of the UK...the keyword is "transitional" 21:39  |  Lynn 21/04/08
      245.   #235 Ronald:AFTER 10 years Hamas will have its WMD in Gaza and WB 21:40  |  Futurist 21/04/08
      246.   # 225 ivo 21:42  |  Swiss (Dino) 21/04/08
      247.   Moris Valentine re :Tosefta on Jews re # 215 21:42  |  17 21/04/08
      248.   How generous of hamas 21:43  |  KUTW 21/04/08
      249.   what is there in the arab world that makes the idiot tosefta 21:45  |  harzion 21/04/08
      250.   # 86 Human Rights?...it also seems to be 21:46  |  Lynn 21/04/08
      251.   Sorry but its a peace treaty or nothing 21:46  |  Murray of Montreal 21/04/08
      252.   More hot air & crap from hamas 21:48  |  Adrian de Klerk 21/04/08
      253.   Hamas and Israel 21:48  |  Jim Woldenberg 21/04/08
      254.   "without recognising Israel" 21:50  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/04/08
      255.   Tosefta on Syria and Iran 21:52  |  Lynn 21/04/08
      256.   The "implicit proof of recognition": trying to fool Israel 21:55  |  KUTW 21/04/08
      257.   What about this better deal for you Meshal? 21:55  |  Genuine Tosefta 21/04/08
      258.   "a truce of 10 years as proof of recognition" 21:56  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/04/08
      259.   # 230 Ron in Belgium..And Where Did You Read This Bit Of Gem? 22:01  |  KATHY 21/04/08
      260.   You know what Meshal? Take you truce and shove it, you know where 22:01  |  Genuine Tosefta 21/04/08
      261.   "Hamas wont recognize Israel" (Meshal at a press release) 22:02  |  KUTW 21/04/08
      262.   To Tosefta...Point 4.Some Jews are cowards like you 22:02  |  soldier 21/04/08
      263.   "referendum on a peace deal must be preceded by a reconciliation" 22:05  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/04/08
      264.   A LAUGH A DAY KEEPS REALITY AWAY 22:07  |  v hardman 21/04/08
      265.   Cipora here is a better deal for yah 22:08  |  get a clue 21/04/08
      266.   Sorry Murray of Montreal,no Peace ever with Arabs,best for Israel 22:10  |  Genuine Tosefta 21/04/08
      267.   Adrian de Cluck knows hot air 22:11  |  no lie 21/04/08
      268.   Tosefta, his self serving definitions and `fantasy` 22:11  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 21/04/08
      269.   PALESTINIANS RIGHT OF RETURN AFIRMED BY UN 22:11  |  JH 21/04/08
      270.   # 249 KUTW The "Implicit proof of recognition":Fooling Israel 22:12  |  KATHY 21/04/08
      271.   "Hamas would regard any future Palestinian state as transitional" 22:12  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/04/08
      272.   truce temproary pause before war comences in future 22:16  |  david 21/04/08
      273.   NUTS! 22:17  |  Mark 21/04/08
      274.   so ah big tough `soldier`? 22:19  |  jus wondering 21/04/08
      275.   why is the zio-state so insecure that `recognition` 22:21  |  please do tell 21/04/08
      276.   #250 Genuine Tosefta..I`ll go even better Meshal How About? 22:22  |  KATHY 21/04/08
      277.   Summertime blues. 22:23  |  Charles Smyth 21/04/08
      278.   so when will zionist recognize palestine? 22:23  |  hmmmm? 21/04/08
      279.   re 201 But what about the others. 22:26  |  Alan the real one 21/04/08
      280.   davvvvid? all you got is war now.... 22:27  |  10 yrs better 21/04/08
      281.   # 260 JH - Could you please refer to the proper document? Thank 22:27  |  17 21/04/08
      282.   # 226 / # 239 ivo (2nd try) 22:28  |  Swiss (Dino) 21/04/08
      283.   re 222 Ever the polite gentleman Mr click 22:28  |  Alan the real one 21/04/08
      284.   HAMAS HAS SAID NOTHING NEW 22:30  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/04/08
      285.   Retreating from the Saudi Plan 22:30  |  peter 21/04/08
      286.   # 121 Lackshmo 22:33  |  ChanahS 21/04/08
      287.   Take it--why not? 22:33  |  Silvienne 21/04/08
      288.   One Addition to Proposal 22:33  |  DoubleClick 21/04/08
      289.   Oh how generous - Pal state in exchange for 10 years of peace? 22:34  |  SystemF 21/04/08
      290.   For Leo # 231 22:34  |  Clickfool 21/04/08
      291.   # 207 JP / # 237 Kathy 22:36  |  Swiss (Dino) 21/04/08
      292.   "Meshal offers 10-year truce " 22:38  |  Yonatan 21/04/08
      293.   Hamas STILL does not recognize Israel`s right to exist. 22:38  |  TurkishJew 21/04/08
      294.   Questuion to Tosefta - Did you serve in Tzahal? 22:39  |  17 21/04/08
      295.   Jimmy Forgot to Mention the 10-Year Clause 22:39  |  B`Galil 21/04/08
      296.   Meshal Israel prefers to pass on any deal with a terrorist 22:43  |  Shepherd 21/04/08
      297.   And so to end the Saga of a Palestinian State 22:48  |  Dagma 21/04/08
      298.   "Hamas wont recognize Israel" (Meshal at a press release) 22:48  |  KUTW 21/04/08
      299.   Why should anyone care about Hamas recognition? 22:50  |  Steve 21/04/08
      300.   Meshal Offers Nothing 22:50  |  Steve 21/04/08
      301.   Response to El-Birawi #1 22:51  |  Israeli 21/04/08
      302.   #60, Lynn,"Egyptians should have been left alone" 22:52  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/04/08
      303.   question `17` did you serve anywhare 22:52  |  gotta know 21/04/08
      304.   No need to get excited (Lynn #250) 22:53  |  Tosefta 21/04/08
      305.   Response to El-Birawi #2 22:53  |  Israeli 21/04/08
      306.   #257 Genuine Tosefta, Peace with Arabs 22:54  |  Murray of Montreal 21/04/08
      307.   10 year truce is not peace, it is part of their agenda. 22:54  |  Jo 21/04/08
      308.   Without recognition would mean we do not need to recognise them 22:55  |  Jo 21/04/08
      309.   Mash`al Should Be Sought and Shot ! 22:56  |  Joe 21/04/08
      310.   # 266 Cipora J.K HAMAS HAS SAID NOTHING NEW 22:58  |  KATHY 21/04/08
      311.   #259 Margie in TA ex SA our white supremacist 22:59  |  Labhras 21/04/08
      312.   Understanding what Hamas means by "Transitional"....A must Watch! 23:01  |  Jason 21/04/08
      313.   # 272 *17* Funny Question,but,I`ll bet you he would say. 23:01  |  KATHY 21/04/08
      314.   Hamas truce crap can go to Hell 23:01  |  Brod 21/04/08
      315.   EL BIRAWI selective facts. Arafat used S.Lebanon as a launching 23:02  |  PETER SM 21/04/08
      316.   #272, 17 23:02  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/04/08
      317.   10-year truce... 23:04  |  Blogowitz 21/04/08
      318.   no deals with murderers 23:04  |  harzion 21/04/08
      319.   First the Truce, then the land 23:05  |  FOX 21/04/08
      320.   Kathy #126 Golan is going to stay with Israel 23:08  |  Shepherd 21/04/08
      321.   Unclear about 10 year truce.... 23:08  |  Smadar 21/04/08
      322.   Eyes they have, but see not ..look at the photo! 23:09  |  geoff 21/04/08
      323.   # 275 - I did , Tosefta, and you? 23:10  |  17 21/04/08
      324.   HARZION AND KATHY: MY REPLY 23:10  |  Brant 21/04/08
      325.   HUDNA..again NO PEACE ever.Carter has been suckered 23:12  |  PETER SM 21/04/08
      326.   # 246 Murray of Montreal,and To Genuine Tosefta..NO DEAL EVER!. 23:12  |  KATHY 21/04/08
      327.   #185 Margie In TA ex SA hates peace 23:13  |  Labhras 21/04/08
      328.   Transitional 23:16  |  Matthew Houston 21/04/08
      329.   # 1 Very simple, Fatmeh, by destroying your enemy/beast... 23:16  |  misha 21/04/08
      330.   Sean #3 23:16  |  Afikoman 21/04/08
      331.   269. Silvienne: why not: hamas does not recognize Israel 23:16  |  KUTW 21/04/08
      332.   #255 Cipora Julianna Kohn and non sequiturs are us 23:17  |  examiner 21/04/08
      333.   268 Chanah S,196 17, 194 JP 23:17  |  lakshmi 21/04/08
      334.   #255 Cipora Julianna Kohn and non sequiturs are us 23:17  |  examiner 21/04/08
      335.   A double offer by Hamas 23:18  |  Tosefta 21/04/08
      336.   Tosefta #228: i take it the egyptians wanted to make something - 23:18  |  ivo 21/04/08
      337.   who cares what Tosefta says? 23:21  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/04/08
      338.   Truce 23:24  |  Charles 21/04/08
      339.   Here Is The latest And greatest From The BBC 23:25  |  Eli 21/04/08
      340.   Carter is a liar 23:27  |  KUTW 21/04/08
      341.   Does Israel actually want peace? 23:27  |  Sylvie 21/04/08
      342.   Definition of Hudna 23:32  |  Gregg Mashberg 21/04/08
      343.   # 274 Cipora J.K .From the Horses Mouth Truth:(Put it out) 23:32  |  KATHY 21/04/08
      344.   266 It`s Israel who refuses to recognize democratic principles 23:33  |  Dutch 21/04/08
      345.   hamas prefers gaza suffering to peace 23:36  |  peter 21/04/08
      346.   #36 Bob - Arabs should pay back rent 23:36  |  JD 21/04/08
      347.   Derrier to Jerusalem (Its Mecca Time) 23:38  |  FOX 21/04/08
      348.   Israeli/mepeace.org 23:39  |  Iz Ray Leigh