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Former Al-Aqsa commander Zakariya Zubeidi
Last update - 10:47 04/04/2008
'Marching toward total ruin'
By Avi Issacharoff
Tags: Al Aqsa Brigades, Jenin 

JENIN - "When you see Zakariya, maybe you'll be surprised, but he looks like just any other Palestinian man now. Without armed men, without a weapon, just an ordinary guy," related an acquaintance of Zakariya Zubeidi, until not long ago the commander of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades in Jenin.

Though Zubeidi is no longer hiding from the Israel Defense Forces, for a number of hours the people at the theater where he works tried to find him. Zubeidi didn't answer his mobile phone even when the commander of the Palestinian security forces in Jenin, Suleiman Umran, called him. In the end, a woman who works at the theater explained that he usually sleeps late and maybe that's what he was doing.

In the past, Zubeidi used to show up briefly at his house, in the Jenin refugee camp, together with his wanted colleagues, before disappearing for fear that Israelis would ambush him. The only reminder of those days are the framed pictures of the "martyrs" killed recently in the camp, and the huge poster of Saddam Hussein posted in one of the alleys leading to Zubeidi's home. The door is opened by his son Mohammed, who immediately summons his father. He comes down in sandals and a black T-shirt, and promises that in a few minutes he will come to the theater offices. Zubeidi arrives in his officer's "battle" jacket and mountaineering shoes, but without a weapon and without his erstwhile colleagues from the brigades.
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What are you doing these days?

Zubeidi: "Nothing special. We've shut down the Al-Aqsa brigades and I haven't yet received a full pardon from Israel. I'm at home a bit, at the theater a bit."

Why haven't you received a pardon?

"They lied to us, Israel and the Palestinian Authority. The PA promised us that after we spent three months in PA facilities and if we didn't get involved in actions, we would receive a pardon. The three months ended and nothing happened. We still need to sleep at the headquarters of the security organizations. They promised us jobs and they haven't materialized either. Some of us are getting a salary of NIS 1,050 a month. What can you do with that? Buy Bamba for your children? They lied to everyone, they made a distinction between those who were really in the Al-Aqsa Brigades, whom they screwed, and groups that called themselves by that name, but in fact were working on behalf of the PA."

So why have you stopped?

"In part because of the conflict between Fatah and Hamas. Look, it's perfectly clear to me that we won't be able to defeat Israel. My aim was for us, by means of the 'resistance' [code for terror attacks], to get a message out to the world. Back in Abu Amar's day [the nom de guerre of Yasser Arafat], we had a plan, there was a strategy, and we would carry his orders."

In effect, are you saying what Amos Gilad and intelligence always said, that Arafat planned everything?

"Right. Everything that was done in the intifada was done according to Arafat's instructions, but he didn't need to tell us the things explicitly. We understood his message."

And today there is no leadership?

"Today I can say explicitly: We failed entirely in the intifada. We haven't seen any benefit or positive result from it. We achieved nothing. It's a crushing failure. We failed at the political level - we didn't succeed in translating the military actions into political achievements. The current leadership does not want armed actions, and since the death of Abu Amar, there's no one who is capable of using our actions to bring about such achievements. When Abu Amar died, the armed intifada died with him."

What happened? Why did it die?

"Why? Because our politicians are whores. Our leadership is garbage. Look at Ruhi Fatouh, who was president of the PA for 60 days, as Yasser Arafat's replacement. He smuggled mobile phones. Do you understand? We have been defeated. The political splits and schisms have destroyed us not only politically - they have destroyed our national identity. Today there is no Palestinian identity. Go up to anyone in the street and ask him, 'Who are you?' He'll answer you, 'I'm a Fatah activist,' 'I'm a Hamas activist,' or an activist of some other organization, but he won't say to you, 'I am a Palestinian.' Every organization flies its own flag, but no one is raising the flag of Palestine."

Are you, who used to be a symbol of the intifada, saying, "We have been defeated, we have failed, the intifada is dead?"

"Even Gamal Abdel Nasser admitted his defeat, so why not me? Come on, I'll tell you something. On Saturday there was a ceremony to mark the killing of one of our martyrs. They asked me to say a few words. What could I say? I can no longer promise that we will follow in the martyr's footsteps, as is customary, because I would be lying. So then one of the heads of Fatah came over to me and said, 'We are following in the footsteps of the martyrs, we are continuing the resistance.' And I told him that he is a liar.

"I feel that they have abandoned us, the Al-Aqsa activists. They have left us behind and forgotten us. We are marching in the direction of nowhere, toward total ruin. The Palestinian people is finished. Done for. Hamas comes on the air on its television station and says 'Fatah is a traitor.' That is to say, 40 percent of the nation are traitors. And then Fatah does the same thing and you already have 80 percent traitors."

Is that why you are at home?

"I got tired. When you lose, what can you do? We, the activists, paid the heavy price. We've had family members killed, friends. They demolished our homes and we have no way of earning a living. And what is the result? Zero. Simply zero. And when that's the result, you don't want to be a part of it any more. Lots of other people, as a result of the frustration, and because Fatah doesn't have a military wing any more, have joined the Islamic Jihad. Those activists are still willing to pay the price.

"And look at what the PA does to those who are keeping at it. If a PA person is killed in a battle with the Israelis, the stipend paid to his family will amount to NIS 250 a month, even though he had been earning about NIS 2,000. Why? So that he won't even think about carrying out terror attacks. This is the only plan that the PA has these days: Israeli security. The security of the occupation before the security of [Palestinian] citizens.

"When an occupation jeep comes into a refugee camp, the PA doesn't do anything, and if someone shoots at the jeep, they'll go and arrest him immediately. Today the president of the Palestinian people is General Dayton [Keith Dayton, the U.S. security coordinator]. They're all working for him, he is the boss. A PA no longer exists."

Forecast: war

Zubeidi relates that for him, the theater is a refuge from the bleak political reality that the Palestinians are facing. "Here there's no politics, no religion. I still feel free here." From time to time he talks with Tali Fahima [the Israeli woman who spent time in prison for her contacts with Zubeidi], and Jewish friends come to visit him at the theater. As to the future of the region, Zubeidi's forecast is very grim.

"Abu Mazen's mistake," he says, referring to PA President Mahmoud Abbas, "is that he is gambling everything on the negotiations. And what happens if the talks fail? What is his plan then? I'm telling you that if by the end of 2008 a Palestinian state isn't established, there is going to be a war here. Not against Israel, or between Hamas and Fatah, but against the PA. The citizens are going to throw the PA out of here. Today the PA is doing what Dayton and Israel are telling it to do, but at the end of the year, when Israel doesn't give the Palestinians a state, the PA is going to be thrown out. There's going to be an all-out war here, for control of the West Bank."

Zubeidi is not the only one who's feeling pessimistic about the future of the PA. Similar remarks can be heard everywhere in the West Bank these days. Senior American and Israeli officials who have spoken recently with Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad are saying that his despair is obvious. Some of Fayyad's bitterness derives from Israel's scornful attitude toward the PA. However, it appears that Fayyad is frustrated to the same extent by the endless conflict with Fatah people, who urge him to appoint cabinet ministers from their movement and at the same time are lying in wait for him to fail.

Some of the criticism of Fayyad's government, which has no Fatah people, is justified. The Palestinian prime minister, his many successes notwithstanding, is by no means a miracle worker, nor can he by himself change the face of the reality. The group of cabinet ministers he has appointed are considered technocrats, for better or worse, and they are not succeeding in implementing a substantial change in the government sector.

The heads of the Tanzim, the senior Fatah people who were supposed to have become the organization's leaders of the future, are also making little effort to conceal their despair. They watch as their movement marches toward annihilation: without real reforms, without substantive change, but with endless talk about elections in Fatah and a war on corruption. Even the heads of some of the security organizations are critical of the stuttering actions of the PA against Hamas and the Islamic Jihad in the West Bank. And while Hamas indirectly conducts indirect negotiations with Israel on a cease-fire, the PA, as Zubeidi says, has "zero achievements" to show: limping negotiations, Israeli unwillingness to help, corruption and the absence of reforms. In the view of some Tanzim people, the PA is on a sure path to disintegration. Not in a swift and sharp way, but rather in a prolonged process, at the end of which it will disappear from the West Bank and will be replaced by the Israeli occupation and Hamas. Nearly the only scenario that could change the face of things is, of course, a political agreement or a framework agreement between the PA and Israel. But who can trust the Israelis?
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  5.   Elias 10:28  |  Linichka 04/04/08
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  107.   Israeli "Palestinian" Christians 19:21  |  Haldrik 04/04/08
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  123.   Ramzi #108 20:34  |  Retread 04/04/08
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  133.   98 21:39  |  zionist forever 04/04/08
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  136.   Atoo#98- Pals had that chance in 1948 21:47  |  William 04/04/08
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  140.   Swiss (Dingo) and his Olympics 22:04  |  Gil 04/04/08
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  143.   # Alicia Yasmeen, let reality sink in.....(2) 22:17  |  Swiss (Dino) 04/04/08
  144.   Dutch (#89) Tell us more Alibabah stories, please 22:19  |  Gil 04/04/08
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  146.   Ramzi, a Palestinian # 97 Your Two Points (part 1) 22:31  |  Jeff Northridge 04/04/08
  147.   Algerian, maybe so, but it ruined the Pals. 22:43  |  Zionist 04/04/08
  148.   And you think (11) King Absullah II of Jordan would bid 22:47  |  Karl 04/04/08
  149.   K. Sharif (13) as a citizen of Israel serving the state 22:52  |  Karl 04/04/08
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  151.   #21 Silvienne, my condolences for your loss and sorrow 22:56  |  Zionist 04/04/08
  152.   Ramzi, are you sure that you aren`t 22:59  |  Scharker Yid 04/04/08
  153.   Ramzi, a Palestinian # 97 Your Two Points (part 2) 23:21  |  Jeff Northridge 04/04/08
  154.   Palestinian Myths and their fatal flaws 23:26  |  Panther Jet 04/04/08
  155.   Dear Dutch:Bipartisan US House resolution 185 23:29  |  Steve -nyc 04/04/08
  156.   Some figures for Dutch from The Israel Project 23:35  |  Karl 04/04/08
  157.   Ramzi, those 750,000 ran as fast as they could because 23:40  |  steve-NYC 04/04/08
  158.   #49 Pal in UK 23:46  |  Zionist 04/04/08
  159.   Vanity fair? you consider it a reference? and you call yourself 23:51  |  Zionist 04/04/08
  160.   re 75 I hope not but i think 23:54  |  Alan the real one 04/04/08
  161.   #15 - Swiss(Dino) - They should indeed (Pt. 1) 23:56  |  JP 04/04/08
  162.   palestinians still have a lot to do to gain israel`s trust 23:56  |  Joey 04/04/08
  163.   THEIR HOMELAND IS JORDAN ? 00:04  |  Bill 05/04/08
  164.   Haldrik - Israeli "Palestinian" Christians 00:10  |  GA 05/04/08
  165.   #15 - Swiss(Dino) - They should indeed (Pt. 2) 00:14  |  JP 05/04/08
  166.   At long last 00:15  |  Rammi 05/04/08
  167.   Becuase of An Idiot Like You 00:24  |  AN Honest American 05/04/08
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  169.   rejoice, israel! 00:41  |  tom 05/04/08
  170.   No Surprise 00:58  |  Mark of Lewiston 05/04/08
  171.   #125 Jeff Northridge...Only In Israel !!! 01:05  |  Ross 05/04/08
  172.   Zionist #149 01:10  |  examiner 05/04/08
  173.   Scharker Yid 01:12  |  Ramzi, a Palestinian 05/04/08
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  176.   Cipora JK #96 - really? 01:37  |  dana 05/04/08
  177.   # 151 JP, who again is a bit "off the road" here...??? (3) 01:44  |  Swiss (Dino) 05/04/08
  178.   Ben Alofs #130 - The coming Palestinian civil right movement 01:46  |  dana 05/04/08
  179.   If I were a young Palestinian 01:52  |  realist 05/04/08
  180.   What I cannot understand 01:55  |  Mark Lincoln 05/04/08
  181.   # 137 Alicia Yasmeen, let reality sink in (1) (2nd try) 01:56  |  Swiss (Dino) 05/04/08
  182.   #149 Zionist -addendum V.Fair 01:59  |  examiner 05/04/08
  183.   The intent of this story 02:00  |  Mark Lincoln 05/04/08
  184.   Zionist - yes 02:04  |  Mark Lincoln 05/04/08
  185.   Durson #2 02:14  |  Observer 05/04/08
  186.   PA in Ruins,A Accurate Assessment by 02:16  |  ROBOCOP 05/04/08
  187.   A Fatah activist despairs, and Israelis who 02:27  |  Che Vive 05/04/08
  188.   dutch - and many of your countrymen 02:30  |  natan 05/04/08
  189.   Ramzi 02:43  |  natan 05/04/08
  190.   If Allah raises Jews in Jerusalem, Muslims should accept it 03:07  |  Rami 05/04/08
  191.   #8 To Catholic IsrAeli from Catholic American 03:08  |  Yaakov Sullivan 05/04/08
  192.   #36 What it has to do with intifada? 03:12  |  Yaakov Sullivan 05/04/08
  193.   Swiss(Dino) - They should indeed (Pt. 2) 03:13  |  JP 05/04/08
  194.   Zakariya Zubeidi: a waste of talent 03:21  |  Darth Zaider (Ed) 05/04/08
  195.   Zakaria can speak for himself 03:36  |  Joe 05/04/08
  196.   linichka #5, wrong 03:41  |  ELIAS KHOURY 05/04/08
  197.   #44 ALICIA YASMEEN THAT`S LIKE SAYING 03:47  |  ELIAS KHOURY 05/04/08
  198.   Jeff Northridge #55 you need to do research 03:50  |  ELIAS KHOURY 05/04/08
  199.   End of The Day 04:17  |  Ron 05/04/08
  200.   Rami.....God has a special place for all of us 04:34  |  Lynn 05/04/08
  201.   #43: Dutch, really why has support for Israel gone up in the U.S. 04:43  |  Doc Holliday 05/04/08
  202.   Dana#178 - What is MLK waved the Russian flag? 05:12  |  William 05/04/08
  203.   #195 Jow - seems like the Intifada speaks for itself 05:18  |  William 05/04/08
  204.   ELIAS KHOURY- JERUSALEM - ISRAEL 05:19  |  Bill 05/04/08
  205.   #196 Elias - the sign of a true democracy 05:21  |  William 05/04/08
  206.   198# Elias - so a newspaper is your identity? 05:25  |  William 05/04/08
  207.   to Johnny #9 - one can only wonder 05:39  |  zeev 05/04/08
  208.   #198 Sorry Sonny Boy you are way off the mark 05:40  |  Panther Jet 05/04/08
  209.   Arafat 05:46  |  MR 05/04/08
  210.   Natan in DC 06:09  |  Ramzi, a Palestinian 05/04/08
  211.   Israel haters are depressed. I revel in it LOL 07:10  |  Abraham 05/04/08
  212.   Dutch 40,42,43 -- in some Bizarro world, perhaps 07:47  |  bbl 05/04/08
  213.   Golda meir: There are no Palestinina people.." How right she was 07:55  |  Haham Me Bat Yam 05/04/08
  214.   Ramzi, a Palestinian 07:58  |  Walid 05/04/08
  215.   Palestine is also the other side of the River Jordan. 08:15  |  Akram Zekaria 05/04/08
  216.   Tower of Babel.. Alive in Israel!! 08:22  |  Black Israel 05/04/08
  217.   # 198 ELIAS KHOURY 08:56  |  17 05/04/08
  218.   to Abraham #211 - right, absolutely right 09:24  |  zeev 05/04/08
  219.   Elias, I stand by my statements 09:40  |  Linichka 05/04/08
  220.   to 17 #217 09:47  |  zeev 05/04/08
  221.   zeev #207, Palestinians occuping themselves 09:58  |  Johnny 05/04/08
  222.   # 198 Elias Khoury 10:10  |  Planned Obsolescence 05/04/08
  223.   to natan #189 10:18  |  zeev 05/04/08
  224.   I wish Zakariya Zubeidi would have said something 10:33  |  Akram Zekaria 05/04/08
  225.   #203 William 10:50  |  Joe 05/04/08
  226.   223# Zeev.The man from Oslo said many things 10:57  |  Akram Zekaria. 05/04/08
  227.   Elias Khoury (#198 #197 #196) O Really 10:59  |  Gil 05/04/08
  228.   #216 black is the operative word! 11:08  |  v hardman 05/04/08
  229.   to Planned Obsolescence #222 11:30  |  zeev 05/04/08
  230.   To Zeev. thanks but partially missed my point 12:01  |  Abraham 05/04/08
  231.   #229 zeev 12:12  |  Planned Obsolescence 05/04/08
  232.   3 STATE SOLUTIN 12:36  |  US CITIZEN 05/04/08
  233.   To # 93 RAMZI a Palestinian - YOUR knowledge is not even 12:50  |  Dagma 05/04/08
  234.   V. Hardman Define "Created" 12:51  |  Black Israel 05/04/08
  235.   Resistance 12:52  |  Michele 05/04/08
  236.   # 110 Robert, my (sincere) apologies for my little blunder..... 13:15  |  Swiss (Dino) 05/04/08
  237.   Michele 13:30  |  Linichka 05/04/08
  238.   Mark Lincoln. The intent of this story 13:33  |  TonyL 05/04/08
  239.   #234 black needs urgently extensive history lessons 13:38  |  v hardman 05/04/08
  240.   War is about winning 13:41  |  SystemF 05/04/08
  241.   There was once only Palestinian Jews..... 13:47  |  Jos 05/04/08
  242.   ELIAS KHOURY # 198 Titling Newspapers 13:53  |  Jeff Northridge 05/04/08
  243.   Palestine an invented word by the Roman Emperor Hadrian 13:58  |  Yoel 05/04/08
  244.   # 220 zeev 14:18  |  17 05/04/08
  245.   # 234 Black Israel; Your Black thoughts are not based on truth... 14:43  |  Max Zinger,P.Chimist 05/04/08
  246.   # 237 Michele - resistence 14:46  |  17 05/04/08
  247.   Dino don`t be a Dinky Donkey 15:22  |  Dror 05/04/08
  248.   #25, Linichka... 15:50  |  Silvienne 05/04/08
  249.   #28, MLK... 15:54  |  Silvienne 05/04/08
  250.   #141, William, on the contrary... 15:59  |  Silvienne 05/04/08
  251.   How beautiful the sound of truth.El-Birawi-384 ?! 16:00  |  Akram Zekaria 05/04/08
  252.   #151, Zionist... 16:01  |  Silvienne 05/04/08
  253.   Yoel # 243 The Philistines 16:34  |  Jeff Northridge 05/04/08
  254.   In Palestinian Politics Self Interest Always 16:36  |  ARTH 05/04/08
  255.   SWISS DINO 16:36  |  AliciaYasmeen 05/04/08
  256.   238# Tony L. "The Intent of this story". 16:45  |  Akram Zekaria 05/04/08
  257.   SWISS DINO & ELIAS KHOURY 16:47  |  AliciaYasmeen 05/04/08
  258.   #59 16:51  |  ARTH 05/04/08
  259.   Not only the end of the PA but also the end of the PLO 16:54  |  Tosefta 05/04/08
  260.   #154 Israel: A Safe Harbout 17:11  |  ARTH 05/04/08
  261.   Palestinians Not Necessarily Over Read 17:14  |  Yosemite 05/04/08
  262.   To # 93 RAMZI a PALESTINIAN - You are a`Treat` 17:18  |  Dolly 05/04/08
  263.   Black Israel 17:34  |  x-ray 05/04/08
  264.   There never was a state called "Palestine" nor a "Palestinian" pe 17:34  |  Chaim 05/04/08
  265.   Silvienne the airhead who knows no facts 17:38  |  x-ray 05/04/08
  266.   Zakariya Zubeidi is the bravest man on erath today. 17:48  |  Akram Zekaria 05/04/08
  267.   Silvienne, unlike dogs... 17:58  |  Linichka 05/04/08
  268.   To ELIAS KHOURY # 198 - Palestinian/ARABS 18:03  |  Dagma 05/04/08
  269.   to Johnny #221 18:12  |  zeev 05/04/08
  270.   Slowman, I am instructing you to stop working NOW! 18:14  |  Dr. Anshel Pepper 05/04/08
  271.   # 249 AliciaYasmeen 18:41  |  Swiss (Dino) 05/04/08
  272.   Jews & Samaritans are the aborigines of Israel: Judea and Samaria 18:45  |  Haldrik 05/04/08
  273.   # 249 AliciaYasmeen, a completion....... 18:48  |  Swiss (Dino) 05/04/08
  274.   Silvienne (#248) Go squat your hypocrisy somewhere else 18:59  |  Gil 05/04/08
  275.   Silvienne (#248) Go squat your hypocrisy somewhere else 19:00  |  Gil 05/04/08
  276.   to 17 #244 19:02  |  zeev 05/04/08
  277.   Israel can withstand anything but palestinian surrender! 19:09  |  Voice of Reason 05/04/08
  278.   # 253 Tosefta...I have always admired your 19:10  |  Lynn 05/04/08
  279.   To ARTH 19:20  |  American Christian 05/04/08
  280.   Tosefta # 250 Maybe, Maybe Not 19:48  |  Jeff Northridge 05/04/08
  281.   to Chaim #258 19:52  |  zeev 05/04/08
  282.   55/Jeff Northridge.You was untruthful or kind to Zakariya Zubeidi 20:10  |  Akram Zekaria 05/04/08
  283.   The Jewish legal tradition can accommodate a pluralistic society 20:11  |  Haldrik 05/04/08
  284.   Tosefta doubts if Israel has enough brain to deal with it 20:18  |  Brian the Brain 05/04/08
  285.   #261 SWISS DINO 20:23  |  AliciaYasmeen 05/04/08
  286.   Silvienne (#248) Go squat your hypocrisy somewhere else 20:25  |  Gil 05/04/08
  287.   # 262 zeev- I am not.. 20:26  |  17 05/04/08
  288.   So by Zubeidi?s admission 20:43  |  KUTW 05/04/08
  289.   they do not stop because of repentance 20:46  |  KUTW 05/04/08
  290.   to Abraham #230 20:47  |  zeev 05/04/08
  291.   Cannot it be a trick? 20:51  |  KUTW 05/04/08
  292.   Excellent story Haaretz! 20:51  |  Dutch Dirk 05/04/08
  293.   There has never been pal Arabs 20:54  |  KUTW 05/04/08
  294.   Swiss (Dino) # 261 That Has Been Predicted Before 20:54  |  Jeff Northridge 05/04/08
  295.   # 259 x-ray...comment taken from Al Jazeera 20:57  |  Lynn 05/04/08
  296.   To Black Israel #234 - `Palestinians aginst all the odds` 21:04  |  Dagma 05/04/08
  297.   # 288 dutch Dirk....sure, call for another intifada 21:05  |  Lynn 05/04/08
  298.   ZEEV - sorry wrong impression - I disagree completely 21:21  |  17 05/04/08
  299.   The Palestinians in Jordan must start intifada and liberate 21:33  |  e.m Jordan is Palse 05/04/08
  300.   Lynn thanks for the heads-up 21:34  |  x-ray 05/04/08
  301.   William #206 what about? 21:35  |  ELIAS KHOURY 05/04/08
  302.   # 294 Hi Jeff, I concede, you are an excellent "footsoldier".... 21:48  |  Swiss (Dino) 05/04/08
  303.   # 300 x-ray...yes, indeed David is right 21:51  |  Lynn 05/04/08
  304.   PA ?peaceful? intentions 21:51  |  KUTW 05/04/08
  305.   praising the terrorist who murdered Israeli students 21:53  |  KUTW 05/04/08
  306.   Promising the Dark Eyed Maidens to the ?martyrs? 21:57  |  KUTW 05/04/08
  307.   The Jordanian option (Lynn #278) 21:58  |  Tosefta 05/04/08
  308.   A PA music video 21:58  |  KUTW 05/04/08
  309.   # 285 Alica, honestly, I don`t think so....... 22:00  |  Swiss (Dino) 05/04/08
  310.   SWISS DINO; one more time 22:03  |  AliciaYasmeen 05/04/08
  311.   21. Silvienne 22:05  |  KUTW 05/04/08
  312.   Akram Zekaria # 271 "You Was"? 22:14  |  Jeff Northridge 05/04/08
  313.   # 242 Jeff Northridge.re:ELIAS KHOURY..I wonder if He Is Aware?? 22:15  |  KATHY 05/04/08
  314.   145# Kathy I beg to differ from both you and Jeff Northridge. 22:17  |  Akram Zekaria 05/04/08
  315.   The Palestinian People Is Finished" TRUE! They never STARTED! 22:31  |  David 05/04/08
  316.   #305 SWISS DINO 22:42  |  AliciaYasmeen 05/04/08
  317.   #305 SWISS DINO - 2 23:01  |  AliciaYasmeen 05/04/08
  318.   #311, KUTW... 23:19  |  Silvienne 05/04/08
  319.   Lynn and Tosefta over Jordan 23:23  |  Ramzi, a Palestinian 05/04/08
  320.   Swiss (DIMBO) #309 How lovely, they Really, Really want do they? 23:25  |  Gil 05/04/08
  321.   Re Elias Khoury 23:31  |  Esther 05/04/08
  322.   to AliciaYasmeen #285 23:33  |  zeev 05/04/08
  323.   KATHY and Jeff Northridge 23:34  |  KUTW 05/04/08
  324.   Ramzi a `Palestinian` : Looks to me you`re American 23:36  |  x-ray 05/04/08
  325.   316. Silvienne 23:40  |  KUTW 05/04/08
  326.   # 307 Tosefta...I honestly think this is the best 23:47  |  Lynn 05/04/08
  327.   #320 Gil , KOL HAKAVOD ACHI 23:56  |  Dror 05/04/08
  328.   Alicia Yasmeen 23:56  |  Alex 05/04/08
  329.   Re Alicia Jasmeen 00:02  |  Esther 06/04/08
  330.   to KATHY #313 00:04  |  zeev 06/04/08
  331.   #198. ELIAS KHOURY, you really do believe your own BS 00:14  |  Doc Holliday 06/04/08
  332.   #294 Jeff in the Box does not see too far ahead 00:23  |  Labhras 06/04/08
  333.   # 323 KUTW *****Thanks I Forgot To Include it.. 00:30  |  KATHY 06/04/08
  334.   The kindness of god 00:33  |  roger wallace 06/04/08
  335.   You have a problem Ramzi 00:36  |  MaryRose 06/04/08
  336.   Chaim #258 - There was never a state called Israel either 00:38  |  Philip 06/04/08
  337.   KUTW (#323) Actually it was called The Palestine Post 00:38  |  Gil 06/04/08
  338.   What can I say 00:47  |  Ralph R 06/04/08
  339.   # 320 Gil in wonderland..... 00:53  |  Swiss (Dino) 06/04/08
  340.   # 319 Ramzi, a Palestinian..Tell Me Something Ramzi Please. 00:58  |  I 06/04/08
  341.   to AliciaYasmeen #310 01:01  |  zeev 06/04/08
  342.   #282...Akram Zekaria 01:07  |  Malone 06/04/08
  343.   Required Reading for CNN, Eldar, and Peres 01:20  |  Tod Zuckerman 06/04/08
  344.   Zeev #269 - Still 32 years after muslim attack at Israel 01:26  |  Johnny 06/04/08
  345.   # 316 / # 317 AliciaYasmeen 01:37  |  Swiss (Dino) 06/04/08
  346.   #326 ZEEV 01:18  |  AliciaYasmeen 06/04/08
  347.   #342 Malone..This guy up there admitted he was not getting enough 01:52  |  Ross 06/04/08
  348.   #328 Alex - danke schön! 02:15  |  AliciaYasmeen 06/04/08
  349.   #336 Philip. Perhaps you crave dodging kassams. Most of us don`t. 02:16  |  Chaim 06/04/08
  350.   21 Silvienne 02:24  |  Malach HaMavet 06/04/08
  351.&nbs