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UN Chief, U.S. urge Israel to halt plans to build in W. Bank settlements
By The Associated Press
Tags: Jerusalem, Palestinians 

United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on Monday urged Israel to halt plans to build hundreds of new homes in Jewish settlements in the West Bank, Ban's spokeswoman said.

"The secretary-general calls on the government of Israel to halt settlement expansion and reiterates that the fulfillment of road map [peace plan] obligations by both parties is an important measure underpinning the political process between them," Ban's spokeswoman, Michel Montas, said in a statement.

"Any settlement expansion is contrary to Israel's obligations under the road map and to international law," Montas said.
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On Sunday, the Housing Ministry said that Prime Minister Ehud Olmert had approved the renewed construction an estimated 750 new homes in the West Bank settlement of Givat Ze'ev near Jerusalem.

The project approved for the Agan Ayelot neighborhood of Givat Ze'ev drew criticism from the Palestinian Authority over Israel's commitment to the peace process.

The prime minister's spokesman Mark Regev, however, said the project was in line with the state's current policy on construction in the major settlement blocs.

"The project was approved by previous governments, and Olmert approved its resumption because it meshes with government policy," he said.

The Bush administration said Monday that Israel's plan for expanded Jewish housing does not help the progress of U.S.-backed peace talks.

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice met Monday at the State Department with Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni.

Rice told reporters U.S. policy on expansion of settlements in disputed areas is well-known, and it is important to keep the atmosphere positive.

Earlier, her spokesman had called Sunday's announcement of future settlement expansion unhelpful. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack noted that Rice had spoken to Defense Minister Ehud Barak twice in two days.

The British Foreign Office spokesperson also issued a response Monday, saying that "we are concerned by reports that Israel plans to build in the settlement of Givat Ze'ev. We have raised our concerns about these latest reports with the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and stressed that we see this as unhelpful - particularly when Israelis and Palestinians should be focusing on full implementation of their obligations under phase one of the Roadmap, which include freezing all settlement activity, including natural growth."

"As the Foreign Secretary David Miliband has recently stated, the U.K. believes that all Israeli settlements anywhere in the Occupied Palestinian Territories are illegal under international law. We believe they are a serious impediment to a negotiated two-state solution."

Also Monday, the European Union condemned separate Israeli plans to build 400 new homes in disputed East Jerusalem saying the move could threaten peace efforts already burdened by a recent spike in violence between Israel and the Palestinians.

Javier Solana, the EU's foreign and security affairs chief, said the bloc remained committed to supporting the peace process despite recent violence casting a shadow over the peace effort launched in November at a U.S.-hosted summit in Annapolis, Maryland. That plan foresees a final accord by the end of 2008.

The recent fighting began with increased Palestinian rocket fire on targets in southern Israel, which triggered Israel Defense Forces raids in Gaza that killed at least 120 people. Last week, an Israeli Arab gunman shot and killed eight students at the Mercaz Harav yeshiva in Jerusalem.

The position of the European Union is to continue to do the utmost to move the peace process forward, Solana said after discussing the Middle East with the EU foreign ministers.

But he said "we deplore Israel's announcement of the construction of new homes in East Jerusalem. That may put in jeopardy the peace process."

Solana said the settlement issue is part of the first phase of the roadmap peace plan. "We do not like to see the extension of the settlements," he said.

Olmert has ordered a partial freeze on West Bank settlement construction. Israeli officials say the order does not apply to east Jerusalem, which Israel captured in the 1967 Six-Day War.

Earlier Monday, a spokeswoman for the Jerusalem municipality announced the plan to build 400 new homes in the eastern part of the city.

"The plan has been completed and is waiting the final approval of a regional planning committee before construction can begin in the neighborhood of Neve Yaakov," said Ariela Smilinski Deri, a spokeswoman for the Jerusalem municipality. She did not know when construction might begin.

Neve Yaakov is located on the northern end of Jerusalem, whose municipal borders were expanded after Israel captured East Jerusalem in the 1967 Six-Day War and annexed the area.

Separately Monday, European Parliament President Hans-Gert Poettering called for an immediate halt to violence, saying, "I condemn the violence by Hamas and other Palestinian extremists, and I call on government of Israel to listen to those voices calling for peace rhetoric to be replaced by peace acts and peace deeds."

Given the dire conditions in the Gaza Strip and last week's attack on a yeshiva in Jerusalem, EU External Relations Commissioner Benita Ferrero-Waldner suggested the Quartet of peace mediators - the U.S., the EU, Russia and the United Nations ? meet soon to assess the chances for peace between Israel and the Palestinians after the recent spike in violence.

She gave no date for a meeting of the Quartet, nor did the EU foreign ministers take up her proposal. The EU leaders open two days of talks in Brussels on Thursday and may visit that issue.

Ferrero-Waldner said a Quartet meeting should assess how the negotiations are going and "what we can do to enhance conditions for a peace agreement by year's end."

Several EU foreign ministers dismissed any possibility of the EU agreeing to bring Hamas into the process. The Islamic militant group seized control of the Gaza Strip last year, leaving the Palestinians split between rival leaderships.

Israel has pursued peace efforts with the moderate Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, who governs from the West Bank. The EU and the United States have also sought to bolster Abbas while shunning Hamas, which they consider a terrorist organization.

"It is very important to stick to the position that we should work with all those who want peaceful processes and peaceful outcomes in the Middle East," said British Foreign Secretary David Miliband. "Only a political solution ... can bring security to Israelis and an end to the hardships faced by Palestinians."


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      1.   Settlements & Corruption Road to Self Destruct. 13:56  |  Mary 10/03/08
      2.   Being "in line" isn`t sufficient 13:58  |  David Teich 10/03/08
      3.   Baruch ata H`, Boneh Yerushalayim. 14:16  |  Allon 10/03/08
      4.   All Blessings are from H`, who builds Jerusalem. 14:16  |  Allon 10/03/08
      5.   All Blessings are from H`, who builds Jerusalem. 14:16  |  Allon 10/03/08
      6.   Pouring gazoline on fire 14:17  |  Michel 10/03/08
      7.   Racist Palestinians 14:22  |  Gilad 10/03/08
      8.   #1 Mary - Boston - Deludes Herself 14:25  |  * BEN JABO 10/03/08
      9.   Israel & Peace 14:30  |  Rachael 10/03/08
      10.   The settlement movement. 14:34  |  Peace activist 10/03/08
      11.   What is the motive of ongoing settlement expansion? 14:47  |  Ibrahim 10/03/08
      12.   # 8 BEN JABO 14:48  |  Mary 10/03/08
      13.   #9 Rachael 14:55  |  Moshe 10/03/08
      14.   #9 Rachael 15:00  |  Moshe 10/03/08
      15.   #11 Ibrahim 15:22  |  Moshe 10/03/08
      16.   Ibrahim - Jerusalem belongs to the Jews so its our right 15:26  |  bf 10/03/08
      17.   #13 Moshe 15:27  |  Michel 10/03/08
      18.   push up the figures to 400,000 and perform 15:30  |  v hardman 10/03/08
      19.   Neve Yaakov and Giv`at Ze`ev 15:38  |  Avi Yerushalmi 10/03/08
      20.   stop de violence , this is what we can really do for Hevron visti 15:38  |  ana 10/03/08
      21.   # 16 pf 15:41  |  Mary 10/03/08
      22.   Ibrahim 15:45  |  Lele 10/03/08
      23.   Is There Any Credibility Left to This Nation? 15:53  |  Yaakov Sullivan 10/03/08
      24.   Mary 1/21 Great - The perfect response to Terrorism and Justified 16:11  |  S Judah 10/03/08
      25.   The Reasons for the Violatons Is Evident 16:16  |  Yaakov Sullivan 10/03/08
      26.   Arab Housing? 16:24  |  Dave Duncan 10/03/08
      27.   Dave Duncan, the reasons are obvious 16:36  |  Yaakov Sullivan 10/03/08
      28.   Palestinians can live there too, right? 16:36  |  Harold 10/03/08
      29.   Jerusalem plans 400 new homes for Jews in Eastern part of capital 16:41  |  Disgust 10/03/08
      30.   Harold, OF COURSE THIS IS SEGREGATION! 16:49  |  Yaakov Sullivan 10/03/08
      31.   #29 a proud man too proud to learn history 17:06  |  v hardman 10/03/08
      32.   # 24 Judah 17:13  |  Mary 10/03/08
      33.   28: No, Harold 17:40  |  David Teich 10/03/08
      34.   Payback for last Thursday night`s terror attack 17:42  |  Saul Rose 10/03/08
      35.   Let`s play around the bee house 18:12  |  Alain 10/03/08
      36.   TO MARY NO 1. 18:12  |  DANNY. 10/03/08
      37.   #8 Say Ben Jabo---are you still taking the idiot pills 18:19  |  ballistic 10/03/08
      38.   Racist Palestinians... Are you Serious!? 18:33  |  Phoenix 10/03/08
      39.   # 37 Wormwood ....on idiot pills 18:36  |  Lynn 10/03/08
      40.   # 35 Alain of Canada.......same advice to the 18:40  |  Lynn 10/03/08
      41.   # 23 Yaakov...like YOU have any credibility? 18:42  |  Lynn 10/03/08
      42.   Saul Rose 18:56  |  Phoenix 10/03/08
      43.   # 35 Alain of Canada.......same advice to the 19:03  |  phoenixaa007 10/03/08
      44.   Ibrahim - Jerusalem belongs to the Jews so its our right 19:06  |  Phoenix 10/03/08
      45.   One step closer toward one state solution 19:15  |  omolll 10/03/08
      46.   I say one state Israel-Palestine 19:38  |  Harold 10/03/08
      47.   Is a two state solution even possible at this point? 19:44  |  Harold 10/03/08
      48.   You mean (TEL AVIV) the capital that was palestine also? 19:45  |  Jamesc 10/03/08
      49.   #39 Say Cupcake, Lynn 19:50  |  ballistic 10/03/08
      50.   Deplores ! 20:06  |  rich 10/03/08
      51.   build it and he will come... 20:11  |  Mark 10/03/08
      52.   # 36 Danny 20:14  |  Mary 10/03/08
      53.   None of your business, EU! 20:19  |  Israel Hazak 10/03/08
      54.   Rachael ARE YOU JEWISH? 20:19  |  US 10/03/08
      55.   The Land of Israel is ours by Historical and Moral right. 20:26  |  Jean Van Daem 10/03/08
      56.   There is no peace process 20:28  |  Clickfool 10/03/08
      57.   * BEN SLABO hiding in USA knows what best for J`lem 20:30  |  sure he does 10/03/08
      58.   if you can`t keep your word on freezing squatter expansion 20:32  |  what good are you 10/03/08
      59.   Jean Van Dumb do you know how to do anything but cut and paste 20:35  |  a monkey could do it 10/03/08
      60.   #55 Say Jean Van Daam 20:35  |  ballistic 10/03/08
      61.   #53 Say Israel Hazak 20:37  |  ballistic 10/03/08
      62.   "Deplored"....??? Germanys foreign ministry strongly CONDEMNED... 20:39  |  Swiss (Dino) 10/03/08
      63.   Actually the Building Is Completely Irrelevant 20:40  |  Brad 10/03/08
      64.   Not only European deplores it 20:41  |  Eli 10/03/08
      65.   Israel continues her political self-mutiliation 20:46  |  FoolingTheWorld 10/03/08
      66.   Put settlement expansion on hold until the lines are drawn 20:49  |  Li 10/03/08
      67.   Why is Israel not a member of the EU? 20:53  |  B 10/03/08
      68.   Response to Jean 20:56  |  Ben 10/03/08
      69.   Trying to turn the tables 21:00  |  Montrealer 10/03/08
      70.   Illegal Brit settlements on Islas Malvinas should cease and the 21:00  |  Absolute Sweden 10/03/08
      71.   Zionist Agenda Will fail... 21:02  |  Phoenix 10/03/08
      72.   Israel is doomed if it proceeds with settlement expansion. 21:04  |  POP 10/03/08
      73.   Israel in the European Union ? # 67 21:05  |  Clickfool 10/03/08
      74.   Israel`s political calculation 21:08  |  Avner 10/03/08
      75.   #67, B: "Why is Israel not a member of the EU?" 21:10  |  EuroCop 10/03/08
      76.   This Has Reached the Point 21:13  |  Yaakov Sullivan 10/03/08
      77.   To 67 21:14  |  Shami 10/03/08
      78.   #67 B re: EU membership 21:18  |  Boycott 10/03/08
      79.   International intershmational 21:22  |  HerzlinDamascus 10/03/08
      80.   Build the new homes somewhere else 21:25  |  Voice of Reason 10/03/08
      81.   #67 B of New York 21:30  |  Chris Linthwaite 10/03/08
      82.   If Israel agreed to stop, she should stop ... 21:34  |  Jos 10/03/08
      83.   The un that refuses to condem yeshiva massacare 21:34  |  simcha 10/03/08
      84.   #1 Mary - Boston foolishness 21:34  |  Julian 10/03/08
      85.   Israel`s Self Made Descent 21:36  |  Yaakov Sullivan 10/03/08
      86.   10 Peace Activist ,this account which is quoted in Alan Dershowit 21:37  |  lakshmi 10/03/08
      87.   All settlements are illegal,according to the judgement of Theodor 21:42  |  lakshmi 10/03/08
      88.   NO SUCH THING AS "PALESTINIANS"!! 21:45  |  HISTORIAN 10/03/08
      89.   With Hope that the killing cycle stop for ever, I think that the 21:47  |  Simon Mohammed 10/03/08
      90.   What a joke UN is 21:48  |  Daniel 10/03/08
      91.   UN Chief urges Israel to halt plans to build in W. Bank settlemen 21:50  |  Melvin 10/03/08
      92.   The UN is passe 21:52  |  Michael 10/03/08
      93.   build 21:55  |  Ralph 10/03/08
      94.   new settlements 21:56  |  SJ 10/03/08
      95.   The UN should not get involved in Israeli`s Business 22:00  |  Kipperraes 10/03/08
      96.   The UN should not get involved in Israeli`s Business 22:00  |  Kipperraes 10/03/08
      97.   @67 B 22:00  |  Ralph 10/03/08
      98.   Israel`s obligations 22:08  |  Altalena 10/03/08
      99.   The UN is a corrupt Arab proxy 22:17  |  Bo 10/03/08
      100.   West bank construction 22:20  |  Marc Dollinger 10/03/08
      101.   What about illegal Arab construction in Jerusalem 22:27  |  fiona 10/03/08
      102.   Great, I will start to build my house..... 22:43  |  Oleg 10/03/08
      103.   with every nail 22:44  |  Janice 10/03/08
      104.   To Clickdick 22:47  |  Oleg 10/03/08
      105.   # 7 Gilad 22:52  |  Janice 10/03/08
      106.   to all lefties T A is a grrrreat settlement 22:54  |  trumpeldor 10/03/08
      107.   Hate poster ClickFOOL disproved by an Arab #56 23:00  |  Jonathan S 10/03/08
      108.   #49 BTW there Cupcake, Lynn 23:01  |  ballistic 10/03/08
      109.   #37, BALLISTIC 23:05  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 10/03/08
      110.   to #90 23:07  |  Hana 10/03/08
      111.   UN, EU, US, disarm Hamas and Hezbollah 23:07  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 10/03/08
      112.   I agree on one condition 23:08  |  Gee 10/03/08
      113.   Manifest Destiny 23:11  |  Edelbert 10/03/08
      114.   Heeelp Jews in Judea !!!! LOL!!!! 23:12  |  trumpeldor 10/03/08
      115.   Why the EU and the Palestinians have the same goal 23:15  |  Jonathan S 10/03/08
      116.   To #56 23:15  |  ari 10/03/08
      117.   Janice # 103 23:15  |  Avi Yerushalmi 10/03/08
      118.   #105 trumpeld: TLV grrrreat `settlement` because it`s a legal one 23:22  |  Benny 10/03/08
      119.   "... meshes with government policy." 23:24  |  Maureen Ann 10/03/08
      120.   46&47 Harold,I am not religiously wedded to either the 2 23:25  |  lakshmi 10/03/08
      121.   ZIONISTS STEALS MORE LAND 23:36  |  Shahid 10/03/08
      122.   re BF#16 23:37  |  billy jack 10/03/08
      123.   Everywhere Israel builds is called "a settlement" 23:38  |  pace306 10/03/08
      124.   halt plans to build 23:50  |  Ralph 10/03/08
      125.   Follow the logic 23:50  |  Realist 10/03/08
      126.   # 101 ,Fiona`s Permit 23:53  |  Nezam el Jenini 10/03/08
      127.   Jews vs. Settlements 23:56  |  James 10/03/08
      128.   roadblocks on the Road Map 00:01  |  anangryjew 11/03/08
      129.   are arabs building in the disputed territories.... 00:05  |  bernard ross 11/03/08
      130.   To Bernard Ross #129: Arabs can build on "disputed" territories 00:26  |  Jozef 11/03/08
      131.   What a lovely and divinely inspired plot! 00:28  |  bat yam 11/03/08
      132.   Jewish building in Judea-Samaria must return to pre-Oslo practice 00:29  |  Dr. L. Brnd 11/03/08
      133.   what fun! 00:35  |  tadchase 11/03/08
      134.   this is a road to nowhere 00:36  |  joki 11/03/08
      135.   Israel, a country of racketeers, swindlers, liars and cheats 00:37  |  Chanalau, Tova 11/03/08
      136.   Cipora 00:39  |  Danite 11/03/08
      137.   Israel and the EU 00:47  |  joki 11/03/08
      138.   121 Shahid 00:53  |  Tippol Aleihem 11/03/08
      139.   olmert should built 75000 units in WB and jerasalem 00:59  |  vladimir 11/03/08
      140.   100 Marc Bollinger,123 pace 260,please check my post 87 01:02  |  lakshmi 11/03/08
      141.   @16, mary, please give exact source. 01:05  |  vladimir 11/03/08
      142.   God bless Ameica 01:16  |  thomas 11/03/08
      143.   #125 False logic indeed, Realist 01:25  |  Johnboy 11/03/08
      144.   US and EU has to act to underline words 01:30  |  L 11/03/08
      145.   #101 fiona expressed outrage! 01:30  |  Johnboy 11/03/08
      146.   Subtly slipping it in 01:30  |  Colin Wright 11/03/08
      147.   lakshni & yakov S 01:36  |  leo 11/03/08
      148.   So, I`m curious.... 01:36  |  Johnboy 11/03/08
      149.   Israel choice: peace or colonization 01:37  |  Michael 11/03/08
      150.   @62, swiss if we willbe rational we will be dead for 3000 years. 01:41  |  vladimir 11/03/08
      151.   #12 MARY -Boston 01:53  |  * BEN JABO 11/03/08
      152.   UN of America 02:05  |  pal 11/03/08
      153.   Swiss Dino #62 02:08  |  Polybios 11/03/08
      154.   #20 ana - Bat Yam 02:10  |  * BEN JABO 11/03/08
      155.   Israel Needs To Show Good Faith! This Is Not The Way To Do It 02:17  |  Eli 11/03/08
      156.   Poor Ole Ballistic - Still thinks she`s on the front lines 02:18  |  * BEN JABO 11/03/08
      157.   UN Chief and U.S. worries. 02:19  |  David 11/03/08
      158.   #85 Turncoat Sullivan 02:22  |  * BEN JABO 11/03/08
      159.   Cipora the braindead space bird what does hamas and hezbollah 02:23  |  you idiot 11/03/08
      160.   #8 Saud deal 02:27  |  Atoo 11/03/08
      161.   Shahid 02:34  |  Tippol Aleihem 11/03/08
      162.   * BEN JABO hiding in USA is the big hardcore Zionist know it all 02:35  |  I ain`t Lying 11/03/08
      163.   Janice #103 02:38  |  dovvod 11/03/08
      164.   Israeli grab of land and the occupation is racist and terroristic 02:39  |  David 11/03/08
      165.   NO to the Wahhabhist Puppets 02:39  |  Brod 11/03/08
      166.   I hope you build more... 02:42  |  A Canadian Jew 11/03/08
      167.   When the speaker is such what do you expect? 02:43  |  Jack 11/03/08
      168.   #129 Bernard Ross- Well said! 02:51  |  fiona 11/03/08
      169.   Watch..more excuses and stalling 03:16  |  betz55 11/03/08
      170.   halt plans 03:21  |  Shmuelshachor 11/03/08
      171.   Complaint duely noted. Now buzz off. 03:55  |  Gili 11/03/08
      172.   #164 David - Dallas - Talking about land grabs 04:24  |  * BEN JABO 11/03/08
      173.   Gili its called land theift and not keeping you word 04:33  |  you buzz off 11/03/08
      174.   #171 Gili goes all Cipora-ish on us. 07:37  |  Johnboy 11/03/08
      175.   #67 B stands for Backwards...... 07:50  |  Johnboy 11/03/08
      176.   #75 Eurocop: BoomBoom!! 07:53  |  Johnboy 11/03/08
      177.   159: Idiot, quit staring in the mirror! 12:40  |  David Teich 11/03/08
      178.   settlements 14:10  |  Barabara Silverstein 11/03/08
      179.   OK, Gili and HISTORIAN 16:40  |  Murray 11/03/08
      180.   172; Ben, any clue why the parks are "Six Flags"? 19:16  |  David Teich 11/03/08
      181.   174-5: JB`s inversion of reality 19:21  |  David Teich 11/03/08
      182.   JB & Eurocop, but the funny part is... 19:21  |  David Teich 11/03/08
      183.   178: Silverstein, no, the real "blot" is you 19:25  |  David Teich 11/03/08
      184.   179: Murray, another inverter of history 19:28  |  David Teich 11/03/08
      185.   #109 Well, say there Cipora; things on the rah-rah 20:15  |  ballistic 11/03/08
      186.   111 BTW Cipora; Israel is the one who should be disarmed! 20:16  |  ballistic 11/03/08
      187.   BTW Ben Jabber 20:33  |  ballistic 11/03/08
      188.   #178 Well, ouch, and ouch again, Barbara @178 20:44  |  ballistic 11/03/08
      189.   #183 Say David Teich 20:51  |  ballistic 11/03/08
      190.   #182 Actually, David, you appear quite humourless... 00:33  |  Johnboy 12/03/08
      191.   #181 David defends the indefensible. 00:40  |  Johnboy 12/03/08
      192.   #184 David talks hypocrisy!!!! 02:39  |  Johnboy 12/03/08
      193.   #156 Say Ben Jabo, the only one put in place 15:17  |  ballistic 12/03/08
      194.   Poor Ole Ballistic - No proper caption = no response 22:32  |  * BEN JABO 12/03/08
      195.   #156/193 BALLISTIC--2nd REPOST 23:04  |  George 12/03/08
      196.   #183 David Teich 23:22  |  George 12/03/08
      197.   #135 Tova 23:24  |  George 12/03/08
      198.   190-2: JB`s back to the empty spewing, p2 09:31  |  David Teich 13/03/08
      199.   190-2: JB`s back to the empty spewing, p3 09:39  |  David Teich 13/03/08
      200.   190-2: JB`s back to the empty spewing, p4 09:45  |  David Teich 13/03/08
      201.   196: Ahh, George, another one barks 09:47  |  David Teich 13/03/08
      202.   183: Hey, Ballistic, another post and runner, is back! (2nd try) 09:48  |  David Teich 13/03/08
      203.   190-2: JB`s back to the empty spewing, p1 (2nd try) 10:15  |  David Teich 13/03/08
      204.   #198 David Lies 23:06  |  Johnboy 13/03/08
      205.   #199 David and his irrelevencies 23:14  |  Johnboy 13/03/08
      206.   #199 David goofs again 23:25  |  Johnboy 13/03/08
      207.   #200 David now makes it all up 23:40  |  Johnboy 13/03/08
      208.   2ND TRY Poor Ole Ballistic will never learn 23:46  |  * BEN JABO 13/03/08
      209.   #201-202 David insists we all pay attention to HIS "points". 02:08  |  Johnboy 14/03/08
      210.   #202 2nd try to point out to David......... 02:38  |  Johnboy 14/03/08
      211.   JB`s always strange definition of "lie", p1 15:22  |  David Teich 15/03/08
      212.   JB`s always strange definition of "lie", p2 15:31  |  David Teich 15/03/08
      213.   JB`s always strange definition of "lie", p3 15:39  |  David Teich 15/03/08
      214.   JB`s always strange definition of "lie", p4 15:45  |  David Teich 15/03/08
      215.   JB`s always strange definition of "lie", p5 15:52  |  David Teich 15/03/08
      216.   JB`s always strange definition of "lie", p5 15:52  |  David Teich 15/03/08
      217.   JB`s always strange definition of "lie", p6 16:00  |  David Teich 15/03/08
      218.   #211 David hasn`t even read Res 181!!!! Part 1 00:14  |  Johnboy 16/03/08
      219.   #211 David hasn`t even read Res 181!!!! Part 2 00:17  |  Johnboy 16/03/08
      220.   #211 Here we go again with David`s lies 00:24  |  Johnboy 16/03/08
      221.   #212 So sorry, David, but read your Res 181 again 00:36  |  Johnboy 16/03/08
      222.   #212 Gosh! It`s National Lying Day where you live, is it David? 00:44  |  Johnboy 16/03/08
      223.   #212 Gosh! How many lies can David shove into one post? 06:52  |  Johnboy 16/03/08
      224.   #213 David waves his hand and makes it so 07:05  |  Johnboy 16/03/08
      225.   #214 David in a nutshell.... 07:12  |  Johnboy 16/03/08
      226.   #215 David lack of logic shines thru 07:28  |  Johnboy 16/03/08
      227.   189: Hey ballistic, I missed you in JB`s rantings 18:49  |  David Teich 17/03/08
      228.   JB`s always strange definition of "lie", p5 (2nd try) 18:50  |  David Teich 17/03/08
      229.   JB`s always strange definition of "lie", p6 (2nd try) 18:51  |  David Teich 17/03/08
      230.   OOOPs, sorry censors 18:53  |  David Teich 17/03/08
      231.   JB: using zmogus` tactic of flooding instead of thinking, p1 19:02  |  David Teich 17/03/08
      232.   JB: using zmogus` tactic of flooding instead of thinking, p2 19:07  |  David Teich 17/03/08
      233.   JB: using zmogus` tactic of flooding instead of thinking, p3 19:15  |  David Teich 17/03/08
      234.   JB: using zmogus` tactic of flooding instead of thinking, p4 19:21  |  David Teich 17/03/08
      235.   JB: using zmogus` tactic of flooding instead of thinking, p5 19:27  |  David Teich 17/03/08
      236.   JB: using zmogus` tactic of flooding instead of thinking, p6 19:34  |  David Teich 17/03/08
      237.   JB: using zmogus` tactic of flooding instead of thinking, p7 19:42  |  David Teich 17/03/08
      238.   Oh, and to add to 217... 19:50  |  David Teich 17/03/08
      239.   #232 Where David goes wrong in this one 11:26  |  Johnboy 18/03/08
      240.   #231 Oh, David, I can`t let this pass..... 11:33  |  Johnboy 18/03/08
      241.   #231 David makes it impossible to be brief 12:06  |  Johnboy 18/03/08
      242.   #233 Running thro these one at a time 12:44  |  Johnboy 18/03/08
      243.   #234 Where David goes wrong here.... 13:04  |  Johnboy 18/03/08
      244.   #234 Nice grab, David....... 13:14  |  Johnboy 18/03/08
      245.   It`s JB`s lies that prevent his brevity, p2 20:48  |  David Teich 18/03/08
      246.   It`s JB`s lies that prevent his brevity, p3 20:57  |  David Teich 18/03/08
      247.   It`s JB`s lies that prevent his brevity, p4 21:08  |  David Teich 18/03/08
      248.   #245 David makes me laugh!!! 23:07  |  Johnboy 18/03/08
      249.   #246 David lies. Again 23:13  |  Johnboy 18/03/08
      250.   #247 David ignores his history lessons 23:52  |  Johnboy 18/03/08
      251.   #247 David`s thesis, in a nutshell 00:48  |  Johnboy 19/03/08
      252.   #247 David proves he is As Dopey As...... 01:18  |  Johnboy 19/03/08
      253.   #237 David makes a fool of himself. Again. 03:11  |  Johnboy 19/03/08
      254.   #246 David blows the dog whistle. Again. 06:01  |  Johnboy 19/03/08
      255.   #247 David is mighty impressed with Hertz`s sources 06:48  |  Johnboy 19/03/08
      256.   It`s JB`s lies that prevent his brevity, p1 (2nd try) 18:24  |  David Teich 19/03/08
      257.   Man, JB never ceases to amuse 18:26  |  David Teich 19/03/08
      258.   #256 Nonsense, nonsense and more nonsense 22:28  |  Johnboy 19/03/08
      259.   #257 Very unseemly, David..... 01:42  |  Johnboy 20/03/08
      260.   Now time for more JB fun, p1 14:48  |  David Teich 22/03/08
      261.   Now time for more JB fun, p2 14:56  |  David Teich 22/03/08
      262.   Now time for more JB fun, p3 15:18  |  David Teich 22/03/08
      263.   Now time for more JB fun, p4 15:23  |  David Teich 22/03/08
      264.   Now time for more JB fun, p4 15:30  |  David Teich 22/03/08
      265.   Now time for more JB fun, p7 15:57  |  David Teich 22/03/08
      266.   Now time for more JB fun, p8 16:00  |  David Teich 22/03/08
      267.   Note JB and others: The two 4`s are really 4& 5 18:18  |  David Teich 22/03/08
      268.   #260 Time to repeat the question to David 13:52  |  Johnboy 24/03/08
      269.   #263 Taking it nice and slow for a very slow David 14:05  |  Johnboy 24/03/08
      270.   #265 David shows his ignorance 12:20  |  Johnboy 25/03/08
      271.   JB can`t answer, so he just keeps asking... p1 14:44  |  David Teich 27/03/08
      272.   JB can`t answer, so he just keeps asking... p2 14:53  |  David Teich 27/03/08
      273.   #271 David loses track of his arguments. 15:07  |  Johnboy 28/03/08
      274.   #271 Pointin` out the lie again, David 15:27  |  Johnboy 28/03/08
      275.   #272 Are you really as deluded as that post makes out, David? 15:53  |  Johnboy 28/03/08
      276.   #272 *sigh* here we go again....... 16:10  |  Johnboy 28/03/08
      277.   #272 David`s astonishing hypocrisy..... 02:44  |  Johnboy 29/03/08
      278.   JB, your obfuscation attempts always fail, p1 17:27  |  David Teich 29/03/08
      279.   JB, your obfuscation attempts always fail, p2 17:37  |  David Teich 29/03/08
      280.   JB, your obfuscation attempts always fail, p3 17:44  |  David Teich 29/03/08
      281.   JB, your obfuscation attempts always fail, p4 17:49  |  David Teich 29/03/08
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