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The siege of Gaza has failed
By Haaretz Editorial
Tags: Border, Israe; Egypt

While politicians and the media are waiting with bated breath for publication of the Winograd report on the Second Lebanon War, a new situation is taking shape on the Egyptian border that might eventually result in a new investigative committee. The diplomatic and security situation that arose on the Israeli-Egyptian border once the Egypt-Gaza border was flung wide open has apparently not yet penetrated the Israeli consciousness. But it is time to start asking pointed questions about the events of this week instead of about those of July 2006.

The border with Egypt was breached in a single moment, with no warning. It is impossible to refrain from asking whether any of our decision makers, or any of those who whisper in their ears, foresaw this scenario and prepared for it. When Vice Premier Haim Ramon boasts of the impressive decision-making process that preceded last fall's military operation in Syria, his words sound bizarre in light of what is happening in the South.

While hundreds of thousands of Palestinians are streaming into Egyptian Rafah and Hosni Mubarak is having trouble reestablishing the border, while Hamas has succeeded in ending the siege of Gaza via a well-planned operation and simultaneously won the sympathy of the world, which has forgotten the rain of Qassam rockets on Sderot, Israel is entrenching itself in positions that look outdated.
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The prime minister speaks about the need to continue the closure on Gaza, and the cabinet voices its "disappointment" with Egypt - as if there were ever any chance that the Egyptians would work to protect Israeli interests along the Philadelphi route instead of thinking first of all of their own interests. The failure of the siege of Gaza, which the government declared only a week ago to be "bearing fruit," and especially the fear that this failure will lead to a conflict with Egypt, requires the government to pull itself together and prove that it has been graced with the ability to solve crises and to lead, not merely to offer endless excuses for its leadership during previous crises.

As hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were streaming into Sinai by car and making a mockery of Israel's policy in Gaza, the prime minister gave a speech at the Herzliya Conference that sounded disconnected from reality. There is little point in extolling the quiet on the northern border when a diplomatic and security crisis for which Israel has no solution is taking place in the South. The Qassam fire is continuing, the policy of sanctions on Gaza has collapsed and Hamas is growing stronger politically, militarily and diplomatically. It is clear to everyone that reestablishing the border along the Philadelphi route will be impossible without its consent. The confusion that characterized official Israeli responses to the international media shows that the developments in the Gaza Strip took the government completely by surprise.

In his speech, Ehud Olmert declared: "Mistakes were made; there were failures. But in addition, lessons were learned, mistakes were corrected, modes of behavior were changed and, above all, the decisions we have made since then have led to greater security, greater calm and greater deterrence than there had been for many years." Olmert was referring to the Winograd report. But he categorically ignored the fact that what was happening in the South completely contradicts his statements. If that is what learning lessons looks like, if that is what deterrence means, the Olmert government has precious little to boast about.
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  1.   Israel and the Rational Agent Problem 10:25  |  Thomas Jackson 25/01/08
  2.   LEBANON AND GAZA: BOTH WERE FAILED 10:37  |  indrajaya 25/01/08
  3.   Thre is hope for the nation 10:41  |  Outsider 25/01/08
  4.   I think the answer is simpler, Thomas # 1 10:44  |  Clickfool 25/01/08
  5.   Excellent leader Haarets; well done! 10:48  |  Chanalau, Tova 25/01/08
  6.   Stop occupation 10:51  |  Minda 25/01/08
  7.   That 2005 Gaza pullback keeps looking more and more ill-advised 10:57  |  DJStahl 25/01/08
  8.   Clickfool #4 10:57  |  S 25/01/08
  9.   ONLY ONE SOLUTION 11:01  |  Ariel 25/01/08
  10.   "4th best equipped army in the world" 11:13  |  DJStahl 25/01/08
  11.   The inability to see what`s ahead 11:18  |  sh 25/01/08
  12.   Olmert Didn`t Even Read The Winograde Interim Report 11:19  |  Joseph E . 25/01/08
  13.   Gaza 11:24  |  Ralph 25/01/08
  14.   Good Editorial 11:29  |  Natallie Durson 25/01/08
  15.   The other option 11:33  |  Fadhil 25/01/08
  16.   Olmert is the Clown who want to be a King, Bwha ha ha ha ha ha 11:36  |  Joseph E . 25/01/08
  17.   Never understood why it took so long 11:39  |  El-Birawi 25/01/08
  18.   First attempt of Arab world reunification since Nasser 11:43  |  Hipocrisy Monitor 25/01/08
  19.   Gaza 11:46  |  Baruch 25/01/08
  20.   THERE HAS BEEN NO SIEGE:POWER WAGES AND FUEL HAVE GOT THROUGH 11:50  |  Lou Knee 25/01/08
  21.   The Palestinians are winning this PR battle 11:53  |  Stephen Murray 25/01/08
  22.   People Power at its Best 11:57  |  Tzfonit 25/01/08
  23.   Send A Strong Signal Across the Mideast , 12:00  |  Joseph E . 25/01/08
  24.   Let the Wall stay down -keep the "BORDER" OPEN 12:03  |  Dangalil 25/01/08
  25.   Time to be bold and even radicalis. 12:09  |  Akram Zekaria 25/01/08
  26.   For 2 Soldiers , Israel leveled Lebanon , for 1 soldier Israel 12:13  |  Joseph E . 25/01/08
  27.   WAS RABIN THE ONE AND ONLY KING 12:21  |  Refugee 25/01/08
  28.   To Natallie. Bad editorial 12:28  |  Altalena 25/01/08
  29.   The lessons 12:29  |  sh 25/01/08
  30.   Ralph 12:36  |  sh 25/01/08
  31.   The "siege" has yet to truly begin and illogic of Haaretz 12:42  |  Mark Hamil 25/01/08
  32.   Maybe something good will come of it 12:54  |  The Northern Wind 25/01/08
  33.   indirect circumstances of latest events 13:01  |  Dror 25/01/08
  34.   Dr sh 13:03  |  Iz Ray Leigh 25/01/08
  35.   The world community must now collaborate to see to it that Gaza 13:06  |  Avihu 25/01/08
  36.   How does that appear? 13:12  |  jac 25/01/08
  37.   The vile siege has failed and this is the beginning of the 13:39  |  lakshmi 25/01/08
  38.   The "peace" process has failed 13:51  |  Frank 25/01/08
  39.   More Of The Same - Thanks, Ehud Olmert! 14:02  |  Norman F Birnberg 25/01/08
  40.   Mistakes, that simple! No, plain ignorance..! 14:13  |  Stephen. 25/01/08
  41.   Military Strength vs People Power 14:25  |  Tzfonit 25/01/08
  42.   Response to DJStahl - 4th strongest army 14:42  |  Thomas Hill 25/01/08
  43.   Gaza IS HOTBED FOR TERROR!! 14:44  |  Suzie 25/01/08
  44.   Blinded By The Abuse of Power 14:45  |  Yaakov Sullivan 25/01/08
  45.   But What Occupation, they will shout! 14:50  |  Yaakov Sullivan 25/01/08
  46.   TO MINDA - YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE CLUELESS!!! 14:51  |  Steve 25/01/08
  47.   Shame on Minda for supporting Terror 14:54  |  Sharon 25/01/08
  48.   to Sh, laughable 15:02  |  Ralph 25/01/08
  49.   Hooray to the Palestinians 15:02  |  Marilyn 25/01/08
  50.   the border is between Gaza and Egypt for god`s sake 15:18  |  mehmet 25/01/08
  51.   #36 hasnt anyone told marylin the egyptians are ordering them bac 15:29  |  v hardman 25/01/08
  52.   To Steve 15:34  |  Minda 25/01/08
  53.   To Sharon 15:41  |  Minda 25/01/08
  54.   The Great escape 15:42  |  Roger Bannister 25/01/08
  55.   The siege ? Editorial common sence has failed 15:45  |  Sal 25/01/08
  56.   For Sharon # 33 15:50  |  Clickfool 25/01/08
  57.   One Of The Few Time I Agree 15:51  |  Ron 25/01/08
  58.   Gaza Raid: Gaza Authority Future Reclaims 15:58  |  Hin Boon Long 25/01/08
  59.   Gaza Raid: Gaza Authority Future Reclaims 16:01  |  Hin Boon Long 25/01/08
  60.   #9 Ariel, You don`t get it! 16:08  |  ME 25/01/08
  61.   there was no siege to fail 16:12  |  israel kukiah 25/01/08
  62.   The Siege of Gaza and other subjects 16:14  |  David Moreinis 25/01/08
  63.   What seige? 16:15  |  David Nigel Braham 25/01/08
  64.   #39 roger forgets the worlds poor whonever haveany of these thing 16:17  |  v hardman 25/01/08
  65.   Clickfool 16:25  |  Tamir 25/01/08
  66.   What`s the fuss, tell me what`s happening" - J C 16:25  |  17 25/01/08
  67.   #10 DJStahl--Saudi military #8, Israel #15 16:26  |  ME 25/01/08
  68.   minda Who Defines International law?? 16:31  |  Steve 25/01/08
  69.   D**n right it`s failed! 16:36  |  Fred Michaelsberg 25/01/08
  70.   Yaakov Sullivan 16:38  |  17 - Darvin 25/01/08
  71.   It failed because Israel values the arab enemy over its Jews 16:39  |  smarter then olmert 25/01/08
  72.   #22 Avihu 16:44  |  ME 25/01/08
  73.   SIEGE OF ISRAEL HAS NOT FAILED 16:46  |  B 25/01/08
  74.   # 2 Indy...Egypt hasn`t even started yet 16:52  |  Lynn 25/01/08
  75.   Why isn`t Gaza Egyptian? 16:55  |  Bar Emet 25/01/08
  76.   The people of Gaza chosed the freedom 16:57  |  Akram Zekaria 25/01/08
  77.   GOD BLESS GAZA AND THE PEOPLE OF GAZA 16:59  |  TrippleJump 25/01/08
  78.   some proisraeli posts are even explictly 17:04  |  bozhidar balkas 25/01/08
  79.   EVIL NEVER PREVAILS... THAT`S WHY 17:25  |  TrippleJump 25/01/08
  80.   # 56, LYNN 17:28  |  indrajaya 25/01/08
  81.   # 45 David Nigel Abraham....it is going to get 17:38  |  Lynn 25/01/08
  82.   # 16 Altalena....exactly right 17:42  |  Lynn 25/01/08
  83.   17 Darvin on the threat of Hamas 17:45  |  Yaakov Sullivan 25/01/08
  84.   Self defense against daily bombing. 18:02  |  H.H.M 25/01/08
  85.   Qassam Rockets : A reasonnable price to pay 18:12  |  The Az man 25/01/08
  86.   Bar Emet 18:19  |  Minda 25/01/08
  87.   just peace 18:29  |  peace 25/01/08
  88.   For Tamir # 58 18:29  |  Clickfool 25/01/08
  89.   The genie is out of the bottle 18:30  |  Chris Linthwaite 25/01/08
  90.   Mehmet - Yes israel selle weapons 18:31  |  David Israel 25/01/08
  91.   Gaza isn`t Egyptian because 18:32  |  Wiktor 25/01/08
  92.   #61 Steve the emotional one 18:34  |  Labhras 25/01/08
  93.   #61 Steve the emotional one 18:43  |  Labhras 25/01/08
  94.   Steve 18:46  |  Minda 25/01/08
  95.   TripleStump Why evil never prevails? Look how successful Islam is 18:57  |  Genuine Tosefta 25/01/08
  96.   Go with the flow - It is irreversible anyway 19:03  |  Yochanon 25/01/08
  97.   Criminals of the holy land 19:05  |  Atoo Landarv 25/01/08
  98.   THE SIEGE HAS SUCCEEDED, SILLY! 19:11  |  Yochanon 25/01/08
  99.   Israel should have taken the cease-fire offer 19:16  |  Pablo B 25/01/08
  100.   #66 SIEGE OF ISRAEL HAS NOT FAILED 19:21  |  MM 25/01/08
  101.   78 Minda,well said! All the land 44% that the UN allocated to the 19:34  |  lakshmi 25/01/08
  102.   contd. . .78 Minda. . only when the terms of the Mandate are 19:41  |  lakshmi 25/01/08
  103.   What a Gentile thinks 19:43  |  George Thomson 25/01/08
  104.   The same ol` incompetence 19:50  |  Michael N 25/01/08
  105.   to # 34 Tzfonit well said ,cousin 19:53  |  Zaki 25/01/08
  106.   By your logic, Haaretz, all agreements will useless 20:02  |  McQueen 25/01/08
  107.   Haaretz, Maybe an earthquake might do it 20:03  |  dutch 25/01/08
  108.   Unprecedented levels of denial 20:07  |  Aaron Levitt 25/01/08
  109.   What did Olmert expect? 20:13  |  Baz Mann 25/01/08
  110.   god-bless Gaza? 20:17  |  Harri 25/01/08
  111.   The Gazans` real homes 20:19  |  Aaron Levitt 25/01/08
  112.   Aaron Levitt - You sound worried that your one state solution 20:24  |  Gina 25/01/08
  113.   Lynn 77. 20:31  |  David Nigel Braham 25/01/08
  114.   Harri - Don`t blame God because 20:52  |  Gina 25/01/08
  115.   SHORT SIGHTED EDITORIAL 1 20:56  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 25/01/08
  116.   85 Az man,see my posts 101&102,the PLO Declaration of 1988 called 21:00  |  lakshmi 25/01/08
  117.   The siege of Gaza has failed 21:00  |  E 25/01/08
  118.   Third Intifata 21:07  |  US Observer 25/01/08
  119.   SHORT SIGHTED EDITORIAL 2 21:10  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 25/01/08
  120.   Yaacov and his hudna,as you see, nobody 21:17  |  TOMY 25/01/08
  121.   Tzfonit # 22 People Power EXCELLENT POST 21:20  |  Maki 25/01/08
  122.   Yochanon 21:27  |  Gina 25/01/08
  123.   Zaki #105 Here`s a Plan 21:29  |  Tzfonit 25/01/08
  124.   Your jumping advertisements 21:51  |  William Griesar 25/01/08
  125.   The siege of Gaza has failed 21:52  |  a wandering Jew 25/01/08
  126.   Gina on "my" one-state solution 21:52  |  Aaron Levitt 25/01/08
  127.   George, Fairview Kentucky 21:53  |  Joe 25/01/08
  128.   # 49 Hooray For Marilyn..She`s Got Her Brain Backwards.. 21:55  |  KATHY 25/01/08
  129.   #43 Suzie - "area" punishment = collective punishment 22:05  |  Rick 25/01/08
  130.   #89 Chris Linthwaite 22:23  |  Shoppng 25/01/08
  131.   To 129 Rick. What is collective punishment ? 22:32  |  Altalena 25/01/08
  132.   #126, Aaaron Levitt 22:32  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 25/01/08
  133.   101 102 lakshmi 22:34  |  leo 25/01/08
  134.   why is it a failure? 22:35  |  Matthew Clark 25/01/08
  135.   107 Dutch 22:38  |  leo 25/01/08
  136.   crossing the border 22:42  |  just wondering 25/01/08
  137.   Opportunity 22:45  |  j10 25/01/08
  138.   To 116. Lakshmi. Court of justice at the UN !! 22:46  |  Altalena 25/01/08
  139.   Finally...congratulations to the courageous Pals 22:46  |  Kiwi girl 25/01/08
  140.   silly sentiments.. silly arguments ... 22:47  |  felix 25/01/08
  141.   some siege 22:50  |  gilberto 25/01/08
  142.   126 Aaron Levitt,correction,not the measly oslo,geneva,camp david 22:52  |  lakshmi 25/01/08
  143.   to Dutch @107 22:53  |  Doris Cadigan 25/01/08
  144.   Aaron Levitt -- Flooding Israel with millions of Palestinians 23:06  |  Gina 25/01/08
  145.   #115/119 Short Sighted and Myopic Analysis 23:20  |  Dorothy 25/01/08
  146.   re 14 natalie 23:48  |  mark 25/01/08
  147.   TO the Az Man 23:49  |  Raanan 25/01/08
  148.   It was a stupid idea in the first place 23:51  |  Mark Lincoln 25/01/08
  149.   Cipora: (Not) being a "hypocrite" I 23:55  |  Aaron Levitt 25/01/08
  150.   INSTEAD OF A FAILURE, AN OPORTUNITY 23:59  |  Jorge 25/01/08
  151.   It is rather moronic to do things 23:59  |  Mark Lincoln 25/01/08
  152.   Cipora: (Not) being a "hypocrite" II 00:03  |  Aaron Levitt 26/01/08
  153.   Aaron Levitt 00:13  |  Other Voices 26/01/08
  154.   Aaron Levitt 00:17  |  Other Voices 26/01/08
  155.   And everyone categorically ignores the fact the Ariel Sharon`s 00:17  |  Smadar 26/01/08
  156.   It`s WAR!!!!!!!!!!!! 00:19  |  Dave from Chicago 26/01/08
  157.   Missing the point 00:21  |  Sam 26/01/08
  158.   re kiwi girl139 00:25  |  mark 26/01/08
  159.   #131 Altalena - Kill terrorists, not innocent people 00:27  |  Rick 26/01/08
  160.   It`s WAR II 00:29  |  Dave from Chicago 26/01/08
  161.   j10 Israeli KKK 00:30  |  Sam 26/01/08
  162.   Cipora: (Not) being a "hypocrite" III 00:30  |  Aaron Levitt 26/01/08
  163.   Much ado about nothing 00:37  |  peter 26/01/08
  164.   to Arial #9 00:43  |  MM 26/01/08
  165.   The seige of gaza succeeded all expectations 00:45  |  peter 26/01/08
  166.   Aaron Levitt 00:52  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 26/01/08
  167.   RE - It`s WAR!!!!!!!!!!!! 00:53  |  mike from NYC 26/01/08
  168.   Other voices (plural?) on implementation 00:59  |  Aaron Levitt 26/01/08
  169.   Cipora 01:06  |  Aaron Levitt 26/01/08
  170.   It WAR III 01:07  |  Dave from Chicago 26/01/08
  171.   OK Mike. Duh, I`m being dramatic.... 01:12  |  Dave from Chicago 26/01/08
  172.   Jail brrakout 01:13  |  Keith T 26/01/08
  173.   To 158. Rick. Destructive behaviour. 01:13  |  Altalena 26/01/08
  174.   Harri...you can`t fire God 01:13  |  Lynn 26/01/08
  175.   One more thing Mike ....... 01:16  |  Dave from Chicago 26/01/08
  176.   Doris Cardigan 01:23  |  Gina 26/01/08
  177.   Rick - Innocent people are killed in war 01:25  |  Gina 26/01/08
  178.   #130 Shopping 01:41  |  Chris Linthwaite 26/01/08
  179.   Proof 01:44  |  Abe 26/01/08
  180.   #28, Altalena, listen to miss Durson 01:48  |  Wise Syrian 26/01/08
  181.   Israels polices will contine to fail 01:50  |  betz55 26/01/08
  182.   Bulldoze the launch sites whether field or apartment block 01:57  |  Jason 26/01/08
  183.   Unbelievable! 01:59  |  betz55 26/01/08
  184.   MM #164 02:01  |  Ariel 26/01/08
  185.   Bulldozer 02:02  |  jack cade 26/01/08
  186.   Take that Goliath: Bismillah 02:08  |  David 26/01/08
  187.   Zionsim=Racism 02:14  |  Joe F 26/01/08
  188.   153,154 Other Voices,the best book on the subject of refugees & 02:26  |  lakshmi 26/01/08
  189.   Mike (167) 02:34  |  jjvanka 26/01/08
  190.   Haare`tz wishfull dream that the siege of Gaza has failed 02:50  |  Haare`tz you go 26/01/08
  191.   Tear down the wall 02:50  |  Bitin Dawg 26/01/08
  192.   Stop the hate 02:56  |  Bitin Dawg 26/01/08
  193.   # 17El-birawy...if this happened in Isreal there will be numerous 03:07  |  Egyptian girl 26/01/08
  194.   questions 03:08  |  hollingsworth 26/01/08
  195.   Well Said Aaron Levitt 03:13  |  Dorothy 26/01/08
  196.   The answer is obvious: Retake Gaza forever! 03:31  |  Chaim 26/01/08
  197.   WAKE UP!! 03:33  |  Egyptian girl 26/01/08
  198.   #101 &102;lakshmi wrong again 03:36  |  Doc Holliday 26/01/08
  199.   Aaron Levitt 04:01  |  Other Voices 26/01/08
  200.   Need for new Mid East policies 04:23  |  allang 26/01/08
  201.   Border now open to supplies...weapons. 04:31  |  Rudy from Chicago 26/01/08
  202.   Anything Better than Haaretz Style Appeasement 04:52  |  Tod Zuckerman 26/01/08
  203.   Gaza is Egyptian, same as Egypt is Palestinian 05:22  |  Hypocrisy Monitor 26/01/08
  204.   Yeah but Egypt can`t 05:22  |  Marilyn 26/01/08
  205.   Yeah right Chaim 05:25  |  Marilyn 26/01/08
  206.   Dorothy 06:26  |  Avi 26/01/08
  207.   Trade went up, Quassam rate went down 06:38  |  Joe W 26/01/08
  208.   Israel`s Foreign Ministry Spokesman. 06:56  |  Maureen Ann 26/01/08
  209.   # 194 Chaim 07:32  |  M.O. 26/01/08
  210.   Marilyn calling others moron? 07:41  |  truth 26/01/08
  211.   #205 Marilyn, it`s no use asking Chaim ... 07:56  |  Dutch 26/01/08
  212.   Wishfull Dreaming 08:07  |  allang 26/01/08
  213.   #206, Avi 08:30  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 26/01/08
  214.   Marilyn last year Hamas killed more Palestinians than IDF&IAF 08:31  |  Half-caste 26/01/08
  215.   This Israeli/US double standard reminds me of... 08:48  |  Dutch 26/01/08
  216.   #148 more airy fairy bunkum from mark 09:01  |  v hardman 26/01/08
  217.   This proves also the occupation is a money-making enterprise 09:01  |  ELIAS KHOURY 26/01/08
  218.   bravo palestine 09:07  |  niko 26/01/08
  219.   To 187 Joe F. What is Zionism ? 09:10  |  Altalena 26/01/08
  220.   LAKSHMI 101 09:10  |  Michael McKenna 26/01/08
  221.   Dave the Chicagoan is crying worse than a 1 year old 09:19  |  Palestinian Prince 26/01/08
  222.   DAVE FROM CHICAGO 1 more thing 09:22  |  Palestinian Prince 26/01/08
  223.   The Israeli Legal Blockade against Gaza Did Not Fail 09:23  |  Joseph E . 26/01/08
  224.   So, wasn`tGeorg Bushs visit to the MIdEast a great help to Israel 10:09  |  Susanna/Shoshanna 26/01/08
  225.   ARAB POLICY, ARAB CULTURE HAVE FAILED 10:29  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 26/01/08
  226.   VIVA GAZA 10:34  |  Pal 26/01/08
  227.   Oooo...that makes sense, Jason # 182 10:47  |  Clickfool 26/01/08
  228.   Hey Joseph E - the Israeli blockade was a clear war crime # 223 10:49  |  Clickfool 26/01/08
  229.   Can`t stop women when they want to shop! 10:51  |  Jacqui 26/01/08
  230.   My posts #204 &205 11:16  |  Marilyn 26/01/08
  231.   DOROTHY 11:49  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 26/01/08
  232.   OLMERT/LIVNI/BARAK YOU ARE WEAK MINDED; ISRAEL IS VULNERABLE 12:08  |  Pavel 26/01/08
  233.   Marilyn 204 & 205 12:12  |  Marilyn 26/01/08
  234.   #217; ELIAS KHOURY what occupation? 12:28  |  Doc Holliday 26/01/08
  235.   I was drinking drambuie and coke 12:49  |  Marilyn 26/01/08
  236.   To Thomas Jackson #1 -- Neither is the U.S. 12:52  |  Josh 26/01/08
  237.   I wonder 13:02  |  Colin Wright 26/01/08
  238.   Pal In Chicago #226 - You call your land a "thorn"? 13:22  |  B`Galil 26/01/08
  239.   Seige of Gaza 13:22  |  MarianneMunsonMilloy 26/01/08
  240.   Click FOOL 228 - "Starving people into Submission"??? 13:24  |  B`Galil 26/01/08
  241.   226 Pal,end to the Occupation of all Palestinian land allocated 13:28  |  lakshmi 26/01/08
  242.   gasa 13:30  |  Baruch 26/01/08
  243.   To Rick in Garland Texas - 13:34  |  B`Galil 26/01/08
  244.   Cipora Julianna Kohn . #225 Get off your soapbox 13:42  |  Alan Hudson 26/01/08
  245.   CIPORA :Capital Letters and the Superlative Case 14:31  |  Dorothy 26/01/08
  246.   To Cippora Juliana Kohn, response #225 14:38  |  sandra chitayat 26/01/08
  247.   Cipora #225/CAPS, superlatives/a racist unenlightened world view 14:40  |  Dorothy 26/01/08
  248.   And yes, to Natallie Durson, response #14. 14:53  |  sandra chitayat 26/01/08
  249.   198Doc Holliday,evading the truth!The 1988 PLO Declaration 15:47  |  lakshmi 26/01/08
  250.   JEWS and collective punishment 16:18  |  Ahmed 26/01/08
  251.   @247 Dorothy on CJ Kohn 16:24  |  Mark B. 26/01/08
  252.   # 231 Cipora J.K ..DOROTHY IS DUMBFOUNDED.. 16:29  |  KATHY 26/01/08
  253.   # 229 " The Arabs with the Fabricated Name of Pals " 16:30  |  Joseph E . 26/01/08
  254.   Chaim - and what do you do with the Gazans? 16:31  |  Mark Lincoln 26/01/08
  255.   Songs of Freedom 16:31  |  zeggae 26/01/08
  256.   It was foolish to say that the intent was punishment 16:35  |  Mark Lincoln 26/01/08
  257.   lakshmi - you are wrong 16:51  |  17 26/01/08
  258.   Dorothy, stuck on caps 16:59  |  Mark Lincoln 26/01/08
  259.   Joseph E-Gaza is not occupied territory under international law 16:59  |  17 26/01/08
  260.   Dorothy Capital Letters are just Capital Letters 17:53  |  Gil 26/01/08
  261.   Palestinians :100 Zionism: 0 18:00  |  Tim 26/01/08
  262.   Lakshmi, re: the establishment of an ICT by the UNGA... 18:01  |  Mimi 26/01/08
  263.   #249; lakshmi here is the relavent text 18:06  |  Doc Holliday 26/01/08
  264.   # 247 Dorothy - nice piece indeed - still 18:09  |  17 26/01/08
  265.   Arab culture 18:18  |  Iz Ray Leigh 26/01/08
  266.   Mark Lincoln-Arab/Muslim Enlightenment 18:38  |  Dorothy 26/01/08
  267.   Lakshmi - 181 was aborted by the Pals and shows no signs of life 18:39  |  Ariel 26/01/08
  268.   Jews have sunk too low 18:39  |  Nathan 26/01/08
  269.   Siege will bear fruit??? 18:44  |  Joe 26/01/08
  270.   REALLY?......YOU WANT TO TELL THIS TO 18:47  |  Robert 26/01/08
  271.   To 250 Ahmed. Learning process 18:56  |  Altalena 26/01/08
  272.   Mark Lincoln 19:04  |  17 26/01/08
  273.   Lakshmi - The UNGA and criminal jurisdiction... 19:13  |  Mimi 26/01/08
  274.   YES Mr Editor, MISERABLY by all accounts 19:14  |  Ben Amir 26/01/08
  275.   17- you don`t get it 19:39  |  Dorothy 26/01/08
  276.   Dorothy Capital Letters are just Capital Letters 19:41  |  Gil 26/01/08
  277.   just in time for Holocaust Day 19:46  |  denier 26/01/08
  278.   never was there a siege in Gaza;explosives,electricty,water&$$$$$ 19:56  |  sam 26/01/08
  279.   Dorothy - sounds like Europe 20:10  |  Mark Lincoln 26/01/08
  280.   Two very bad decisions, how mny more to come? 20:10  |  Joshua 26/01/08
  281.   17 - little do you know 20:14  |  Mark Lincoln 26/01/08
  282.   El- Birawi. Yes you nailed it. Egypt is the key 20:20  |  Yaakov Sullivan 26/01/08
  283.   indrajaya, even Norman Finkelstein Nasrallah said so. 20:26  |  Yaakov Sullivan 26/01/08
  284.   Ben Amir - delivering victory to the enemy 20:26  |  Mark Lincoln 26/01/08
  285.   To 275 Dorothy. Immorality 20:28  |  Altalena 26/01/08
  286.   # 275 Dorothy - Indeed I do not get it 20:30  |  17 26/01/08
  287.   Invade 20:33  |  Ken 26/01/08
  288.   The "crisis" in Gaza was staged part 1. 20:40  |  Marwan مروان خوري 26/01/08
  289.   The "crisis" in Gaza was staged part 2 20:42  |  Marwan مروان خوري 26/01/08
  290.   The "crisis" in Gaza was staged part 3 20:43  |  Marwan مروان خوري 26/01/08
  291.   The "crisis" in Gaza was staged part 4 20:44  |  Marwan مروان خوري 26/01/08
  292.   One lesson to be learned from the Gaza debacle (part 1) 21:00  |  Yonatan 26/01/08
  293.   # 266 Dorothy..How Are The Telephone Exchanges Going With Tosefta 21:05  |  KATHY 26/01/08
  294.   One lesson to be learned from the Gaza debacle 21:07  |  Yonatan 26/01/08
  295.   One lesson to be learned from the Gaza debacle (part 3) 21:11  |  Yonatan 26/01/08
  296.   # 197 Egyptian girl....I`m glad the "siege failed" 21:13  |  Lynn 26/01/08
  297.   # 269 Joe....Pals are free now 21:16  |  Lynn 26/01/08
  298.   # 148 Mark Lincoln....from what I have read 21:25  |  Lynn 26/01/08
  299.   The Withdrawal from Gaza has Failed 21:33  |  Proud Israeli 26/01/08
  300.   Israel did its part fine in controling the Gaza border 21:41  |  zionist forever 26/01/08
  301.   Dorothy re: 17 21:42  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 26/01/08
  302.   They Shoot Horses Don`t They? 21:59  |  Abe 26/01/08
  303.   #246, sandra chitayat 22:08  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 26/01/08
  304.   #247 poor, sensative, uninformed DOROTHY 22:12  |  Susanna/Shoshanna 26/01/08
  305.   #244, Alan Hudson 22:18  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 26/01/08
  306.   Now that the border with Egypt is open 22:25  |  Yonatan 26/01/08
  307.   #252, Kathy 22:28  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 26/01/08
  308.   # 275 Dorothy - Indeed I do not get it (2nd attempt) 22:38  |  17 26/01/08
  309.   #145DOROTHY,the only people who deny the Pals a homeland are Arab 22:44  |  Susanna/Shoshanna 26/01/08
  310.   Lakshmi, re: Israel was admitted to the UN on the condition of... 22:45  |  Mimi 26/01/08
  311.   #245,247 twice:"all of that is besides the point" 22:48  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 26/01/08
  312.   Sea lall Israeli Crossings 23:00  |  Abe 26/01/08
  313.   The "crisis" in Gaza was staged part 1. (2nd try) 23:01  |  Marwan مروان خوري 26/01/08
  314.   #275 Dorothy 23:01  |  Labhras 26/01/08
  315.   The "crisis" in Gaza was staged part 2 23:02  |  Marwan مروان خوري 26/01/08
  316.   The "crisis" in Gaza was staged part 3 23:03  |  Marwan مروان خوري 26/01/08
  317.   The "crisis" in Gaza was staged part 4 23:04  |  Marwan مروان خوري 26/01/08
  318.   Shoshanna/ RE Cipora: You make my point very well 23:04  |  Dorothy 26/01/08
  319.   The "crisis" in Gaza was staged part 5 23:05  |  Marwan مروان خوري 26/01/08
  320.   The "crisis" in Gaza was staged part 6 23:06  |  Marwan مروان خوري 26/01/08
  321.   Overpopulation of Palastinian land is because they have no birth 23:09  |  Susanna/Shoshanna 26/01/08
  322.   dear cipora. have you or any prozionist 23:11  |  bozhidar balkas 26/01/08
  323.   Labrhas- thank you 23:12  |  Dorothy 26/01/08
  324.   Dorothy 23:23  |  akiva (zionist) 26/01/08
  325.   Agreed Yonatan 23:34  |  Mark Lincoln 26/01/08
  326.   Tony, are you sure you understand what is going on her? 23:35  |  Gilad 26/01/08
  327.   #309 ? Shoshanna says"why don`t they just go away?" 23:39  |  Dorothy 26/01/08
  328.   Yonatan - indeed why? 23:41  |  Mark Lincoln 26/01/08
  329.   Akiva (zionist)- Culture is strong- both sides 23:54  |  Dorothy 26/01/08
  330.   #327dorothy follows the red brick road 23:57  |  v hardman 26/01/08
  331.   # 321 Susanna/Shoshanna---Well Said,..But With Whom Are We 00:04  |  KATHY 27/01/08
  332.   Cipora to Kathy- Distortions-on "Original Sin" 00:10  |  Dorothy 27/01/08
  333.   Dorothy - Do you think the best thing for Israel is 00:10  |  17 27/01/08
  334.   Kathy # 293 - Hilarious! 00:16  |  Gina 27/01/08
  335.   # 316 Marwan To All Your Posts. Most Enlightened People Know The 00:19  |  KATHY 27/01/08
  336.   1947 00:23  |  rico 27/01/08
  337.   To #24 00:26  |  rico 27/01/08
  338.   #323 Dorothy 00:30  |  Labhras 27/01/08
  339.   #332, Dorothy 00:35  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 27/01/08
  340.   Once upon a time 00:41  |  Mark Lincoln 27/01/08
  341.   #329, "terrorism is the tool of the weak" 00:47  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 27/01/08
  342.   So what now? 00:49  |  Mark Lincoln 27/01/08
  343.   Labhras-so now I know Dorothy is not Irish-I can remember a time 00:59  |  Susanna/Shoshanna 27/01/08
  344.   #340MarkL-your conclusions are lies-for one, Egypt thru peace got 01:19  |  Susanna/Shoshanna 27/01/08
  345.   #335 KATHY. Thank you 01:21  |  Marwan مروان خوري 27/01/08
  346.   Forget tinyGaza. The big prize now is the Sinai under Hamas rule. 01:37  |  commonsense 27/01/08
  347.   Dorothy, parity of weaponry 01:55  |  akiva (zionist) 27/01/08
  348.   Dorothy, parity of weaponry, part 2 02:06  |  akiva (zionist) 27/01/08
  349.   How to teach Hamas a lesson 02:17  |  arun 27/01/08
  350.   Dorothy, parity of weaponry, part 1 02:48  |  akiva (zionist) 27/01/08
  351.   #17 Absurd nonsense, 17 02:59  |  Johnboy 27/01/08
  352.   # 293 KATHY...I agree with Gina 03:11  |  Lynn 27/01/08
  353.   Akiva (zionist)-re your part one 03:13  |  Dorothy 27/01/08
  354.   # 308 17 ....I don`t get Dorothy either 03:15  |  Lynn 27/01/08
  355.   Cipora`s Distortions and Attack Dog 03:15  |  Dorothy 27/01/08
  356.   Dorothy of Maine....not Israel`s original sin 03:20