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Vice Premier Haim Ramon (FLASH90)
Last update - 16:09 05/01/2008
Ramon: Crackdown on outposts likely to start after Bush visit
By Haaretz Service and News Agencies

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Ramon did not give details on which of the outposts, erected without government approval, might be dismantled.

But he indicated a crackdown would focus on outposts that fall outside Israel's West Bank barrier, which Palestinians suspect is meant to demarcate a future border.

"Certainly those illegal outposts located east of the fence" would be on the removal roster, Ramon said.

The U.S. is pressing Israel to evacuate illegal outposts in the West Bank.

Bush on Thursday called Israeli settlement expansion an "impediment" to the success of revived peace efforts and urged the Jerusalem to follow through on its pledge to dismantle unauthorized settler outposts.

Speaking less than a week before his first presidential visit to Israel and the West Bank, Bush voiced optimism at the prospects for securing an Israeli-Palestinian peace deal by the end of 2008, a goal set at last November's Annapolis conference that has been viewed with some skepticism.

Bush said he would use his trip to keep up pressure on both sides, including making clear to Israelis his concern about continued settlement activity.

"I will talk about Israeli settlement expansion, about how that is, that can be, you know, an impediment to success," in an interview at the White House with Reuters. "The unauthorized outposts for example need to be dismantled, like the Israelis said they would do."

Israel has been filing indictments over the past two months against right-wing activists and settlers for occupying an illegal outpost, following orders from Defense Minister Ehud Barak to security forces to file police complaints against the activists.

Barak on several occasions has expressed frustration at the helplessness the state evinces in the face of those who establish the illegal outposts.

In his opinion, the prosecution ought to demand prison terms for the serial offenders among outpost dwellers.

He maintains that this is an effective means of combating the phenomenon, even before the government acts to remove outposts, as per the promise made to the U.S. several years ago and again at the Annapolis Conference in November.

So far some 70 complaints have been filed, which have led to about 20 indictments against young people and teenagers who moved in batches to the outpost Shvut Ami, near the Kedumim settlement in the West Bank.

Shvut Ami has in recent months become a new symbol of the fight over the outposts and, in the eyes of the security forces, an extreme example of the settlers' ability to harass them.

The outpost is located on private Palestinian land, a few hundred meters south of Kedumim, on the other side of the Kedumim-Alfei Menashe road. Activists occupied it a dozen times, and were removed by the Border Police, army and police. Attempts to occupy it continue, despite the fact that an IDF brigade is headquartered less than a kilometer away.

Barak, who kept hearing about this matter in the weekly situation assessments in his office about the territories, directed the army and the police to file complaints for entering a closed military zone, against those manning the outpost.

Meanwhile, Israeli officials have said the state would allow construction within built up areas of existing legal settlements in the West Bank, but would not expand beyond those areas.

Last month, an official said Israel defined a settlement freeze as a commitment not to build any new settlements and not to confiscate any additional Palestinian lands for settlement use.

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      1.   why would anyone believe 08:48  |  rm 04/01/08
      2.   The propaganda campaign starts 09:15  |  Natallie Durson 04/01/08
      3.   Olmert , Ramon , Barak Manifestly Violate the Law of the Land 09:32  |  Joseph E . 04/01/08
      4.   Sure it is, sure it is...... 09:37  |  Clickfool 04/01/08
      5.   Look at the face of a jubilating idiot,Ramon was also jubiltating 09:50  |  Absolute Sweden 04/01/08
      6.   Crack down on un-recognized outposts but leave legal settlements 09:50  |  Marwan مروان خوري 04/01/08
      7.   Natalie Durson`s Israel-bashing smear campaign to spread the 09:53  |  Marwan مروان خوري 04/01/08
      8.   Outposts or Gaza? 09:58  |  Vitaly 04/01/08
      9.   ramon stop kissing condis posterior 10:14  |  victor hardman 04/01/08
      10.   Qassam and Katusha attacks 10:15  |  Lily 04/01/08
      11.   Israel`s time has run out! 10:15  |  Chanalau, Tova 04/01/08
      12.   Crackdown on what? 10:27  |  Michael 04/01/08
      13.   Ramon: Crackdown on outposts likely to start after Bush visit 10:28  |  Martin List, M.D. 04/01/08
      14.   Law of return? #3 10:31  |  A.M. 04/01/08
      15.   Ramon is a convicted sex felon. 10:53  |  Avraham 04/01/08
      16.   For Marwan, on squats # 6 11:00  |  Clickfool 04/01/08
      17.   dont waste time on outposts 11:24  |  harzion 04/01/08
      18.   we do not take into account of the important fact 11:27  |  harzion 04/01/08
      19.   BUILD JEWISH CITIES IN W.BANK.CLEANSE HOLYLAND FROM TERROR!!! 11:56  |  VOICE of MOSHIACH))) 04/01/08
      20.   All settlements are illegal 12:24  |  Anton 04/01/08
      21.   Crackdown on Political Crackpots..!! 12:36  |  Stephen. 04/01/08
      22.   Crackdown 12:47  |  iletzter 04/01/08
      23.   #20 anton and the unfortunate ignorance 12:49  |  victor hardman 04/01/08
      24.   How can anyone believe Israel 13:07  |  Jacob 04/01/08
      25.   The Iowa effect, or 2008 will become the year of truth for Israel 13:31  |  Swiss (Dino) 04/01/08
      26.   20Anton,well said,all settlements are illegal because they do not 13:49  |  lakshmi 04/01/08
      27.   Anton: legal or illegal?? 14:01  |  Stan 04/01/08
      28.   Technically they are disputed territory 14:06  |  Terminator 04/01/08
      29.   to Marwan and Illegal outposts 14:14  |  Terminator 04/01/08
      30.   #21 dino the prophet is a lost cause 14:18  |  victor hardman 04/01/08
      31.   #22 where can i buy your book lakschmi? 14:33  |  victor hardman 04/01/08
      32.   Crackdown on Olmerts Government ! 14:39  |  Michael 04/01/08
      33.   MOST Settlements are 100% LEGAL 15:03  |  The Equalizer 04/01/08
      34.   lily 10 15:07  |  realism 04/01/08
      35.   Ramon vs. Lieberman: No contest 15:11  |  Tosefta 04/01/08
      36.   definitions, definitions ... 15:14  |  Axel 04/01/08
      37.   Yipee! Get the Israeli Squatter out. 15:19  |  POP 04/01/08
      38.   I`m a racist clown 15:20  |  Marwan مروان خوري 04/01/08
      39.   Shas, save Israel now and leave gov`t in spite of consequences 15:27  |  Adderabba 04/01/08
      40.   lakshmi and the settlements 15:28  |  jaihind 04/01/08
      41.   lakshmi we should be paying attention to the harijans 15:34  |  jaihind 04/01/08
      42.   Why physically evacuate the settlements 15:34  |  Chris Linthwaite 04/01/08
      43.   I have been patiently waiting to move the United States Embassy. 15:39  |  Johnny Weintraub 04/01/08
      44.   To #16 Where do you get your facts? 15:50  |  Levi 04/01/08
      45.   yossi sarid 15:53  |  zevulun 04/01/08
      46.   west bank crackdown 15:54  |  geroge 04/01/08
      47.   When Ramon set this timing, he obviously didn`t consult with... 15:55  |  zmogus 04/01/08
      48.   Chris Linthwaite Proposal 16:26  |  Ruth 04/01/08
      49.   Yes, Ramon begin expelling Jews thus... 16:29  |  bat yam 04/01/08
      50.   Ramon vs. Lieberman: No contest 16:41  |  Tosefta 04/01/08
      51.   #26 Johnny 16:42  |  ballistic 04/01/08
      52.   #32 Levi wrong yourself 16:56  |  Labhras 04/01/08
      53.   To Martin List, M.D. 16:58  |  Mark B. 04/01/08
      54.   Religious Nationalism in India: Lessons for Israel and the World 17:11  |  Daybreak 04/01/08
      55.   It`s About Enforceable Reciprocity, Not Words 17:17  |  Dave Levy 04/01/08
      56.   What`s a palestinian 17:29  |  peter 04/01/08
      57.   Chris Linthwaite`s Proposal 17:32  |  Ruth 04/01/08
      58.   # 20 Anton - Occupied territory of what state? 17:39  |  17 04/01/08
      59.   Lord Caradon on res 242 17:39  |  peter 04/01/08
      60.   # 21 Swiss...I am chuckling at the prediction 17:40  |  Lynn 04/01/08
      61.   # 16 Clicky ...it is a good thing the Pals 17:47  |  Lynn 04/01/08
      62.   Re Natallie #2 17:57  |  Esther 04/01/08
      63.   "settlements" are in Israel 17:58  |  peter 04/01/08
      64.   #37 Diversions 18:10  |  Outsider 04/01/08
      65.   #38 Ruth/Chris 18:25  |  Boycott 04/01/08
      66.   Chew on this one 18:31  |  Steve 04/01/08
      67.   Barak filing complaints? Will it snow in TA this summer? 18:33  |  Toronto`s Finest 04/01/08
      68.   # 39 Lynn and Hillary, be good "girls" and face reality...:) 18:59  |  Swiss (Dino) 04/01/08
      69.   #38 Ruth 19:10  |  Chris Linthwaite 04/01/08
      70.   Somebody, help me 19:21  |  17 04/01/08
      71.   Clickfool Custard 19:33  |  Nik "BANNED" Miller 04/01/08
      72.   Its high time 19:33  |  Danite 04/01/08
      73.   Re harzion #17, 18 19:43  |  Esther 04/01/08
      74.   Ramon have you not heard..... 19:49  |  GABE1 04/01/08
      75.   wahts a pal? he/she/it is a human being 20:00  |  bozhidar balkas 04/01/08
      76.   Meaning of confiscated illegalities 20:20  |  David 04/01/08
      77.   It will last a week, then go back to normal 20:23  |  peacelover 04/01/08
      78.   Judea and Samaria are not "Palestinian lands" 20:25  |  Chaim 04/01/08
      79.   peter of Montreal 20:41  |  GABE1 04/01/08
      80.   esther 21:07  |  harzion 04/01/08
      81.   46 Danite,curious: are you prepared to go back to the Partition 21:18  |  lakshmi 04/01/08
      82.   # 2 It would be better to send all pal`s +all arabs packing fast. 21:41  |  Misha 04/01/08
      83.   For Nik "Podge" Miller # 56 21:46  |  Clickfool 04/01/08
      84.   #58, 17 21:49  |  Chris Linthwaite 04/01/08
      85.   #81 the clucking fool offers to correspond directly? 21:58  |  victor hardman 04/01/08
      86.   Tosefta #23 22:05  |  TonyL 04/01/08
      87.   For harzion #78 22:06  |  Esther 04/01/08
      88.   Re Martin #13 22:47  |  Esther 04/01/08
      89.   They had better mean it this time 23:36  |  Henk 04/01/08
      90.   54 Daybreak,quite wrong! Muslims in India are living under a 23:53  |  lakshmi 04/01/08
      91.   Lakshmi 00:11  |  Danite 05/01/08
      92.   # 85 Chris Linthwaite - 00:17  |  17 05/01/08
      93.   On the legality of settlements.... 00:22  |  Marwan مروان خوري 05/01/08
      94.   On the legality of settlements....#2 00:24  |  Marwan مروان خوري 05/01/08
      95.   On the legality of settlements....#3 00:26  |  Marwan مروان خوري 05/01/08
      96.   #58 You make no sense, 17 00:26  |  Johnboy 05/01/08
      97.   # 94 Johnboy 00:53  |  17 05/01/08
      98.   lakshmi why do you fib about muslims in india 01:35  |  abbas shaheed 05/01/08
      99.   #88 Lakshmi 01:39  |  Daybreak 05/01/08
      100.   Marwan 01:39  |  Jacob 05/01/08
      101.   danite i particularly liked your list of "long lives" 01:39  |  zion 05/01/08
      102.   Lakshmi, Continued 01:46  |  Daybreak 05/01/08
      103.   took shrub 7 years as prez to realize settlements are a problem 01:49  |  newageblues 05/01/08
      104.   Jacob in Manchester 01:51  |  Lancashire Lass 05/01/08
      105.   #95 It is irrelevent to occupation, Marwan 01:52  |  Johnboy 05/01/08
      106.   esther "i am no cipora alas" 01:57  |  harzion 05/01/08
      107.   #96 Marwan falls at the final hurdle. 02:06  |  Johnboy 05/01/08
      108.   100& 103 Daybreak,kiernan`s book is not objective since it omits 02:23  |  lakshmi 05/01/08
      109.   101 Jacob. I know facts. Learn history 02:23  |  Marwan مروان خوري 05/01/08
      110.   100 &103 Daybreak,contd.. . mutlti ethnic country of 1.5 billion 02:31  |  lakshmi 05/01/08
      111.   92 Danite,wow, a spirited reply but my second question:in 1947 02:37  |  lakshmi 05/01/08
      112.   esther "i am no cipora alas" 02:40  |  harzion 05/01/08
      113.   #98 Let me show you where your error lies, 17 02:42  |  Johnboy 05/01/08
      114.   Likely to start when? 03:13  |  Colin Wright 05/01/08
      115.   #84, Clickfool to Nik "Podge" Miller.... 03:58  |  Silvienne 05/01/08
      116.   #104, newageblues... 03:59  |  Silvienne 05/01/08
      117.   # 98 Johnboy - step by step 04:00  |  17 05/01/08
      118.   #115, Colin Wright... 04:01  |  Silvienne 05/01/08
      119.   Qur`anic Ramon 04:20  |  Joseph E . 05/01/08
      120.   Lakshmi #109, #111 05:01  |  Daybreak 05/01/08
      121.   Zion 05:43  |  Danite 05/01/08
      122.   Lakshmi 05:44  |  Danite 05/01/08
      123.   lakshmi 05:51  |  Danite 05/01/08
      124.   #118 Point by point, 17 05:58  |  Johnboy 05/01/08
      125.   #118 the short version, 17 06:18  |  Johnboy 05/01/08
      126.   Kadima Olmert Gov`t and the 4th Geneva Convention , 07:03  |  Joseph E . post 2 05/01/08
      127.   Kadima Olmert Gov`t and the 4th Geneva Convention , 07:06  |  Joseph E . Post 3 05/01/08
      128.   # 126 Johnboy 07:16  |  17 05/01/08
      129.   Kadima Olmert Gov`t Policies Are An Insult is to The Oldest Prof 07:18  |  Joseph E . 05/01/08
      130.   #129 You are avoiding my point, 17, Part 1. 07:48  |  Johnboy 05/01/08
      131.   Kadima Olmert Gov`t and the 4th Geneva Convention , 07:51  |  Joseph E . post 1 05/01/08
      132.   Reverse Potemkin 07:53  |  chet 05/01/08
      133.   #129 You are avoiding my point, 17, Part 2 08:02  |  Johnboy 05/01/08
      134.   oh boy! here we go again; how familiar that promise 08:19  |  eric 05/01/08
      135.   #135 eric doesnt understand that minority governments make promis 09:15  |  victor hardman 05/01/08
      136.   The mystery of the settler worldview 10:49  |  Rowan Berkeley 05/01/08
      137.   Lancashire Lass 11:25  |  peter 05/01/08
      138.   #197 the ash tree should start readng english colonial history 11:36  |  victor hardman 05/01/08
      139.   124Danite for someone who belongs to a Peace Now org.you endorse 12:12  |  lakshmi 05/01/08
      140.   124 Danite,contd. . the UN adopted the Partition Resolution,thus 12:19  |  lakshmi 05/01/08
      141.   # 135 good victor; i`m glad to hear that... 13:12  |  eric 05/01/08
      142.   Johnboy - we are in agreemrnt more than you think 13:16  |  17 05/01/08
      143.   um whats your point victor 14:04  |  Rowan Berkeley 05/01/08
      144.   PANDERING AND MEANDERING........ 14:16  |  BK 05/01/08
      145.   What exactly is the role of graphology in Israel? 14:29  |  Rowan Berkeley 05/01/08
      146.   Re harzion #107 15:00  |  Esther 05/01/08
      147.   #143 eric dances in occupied mexico 15:08  |  victor hardman 05/01/08
      148.   #145ash descends into gobbledegook ? 15:10  |  victor hardman 05/01/08
      149.   #147 a science for reading character from your hand writing 15:12  |  victor hardman 05/01/08
      150.   lakshmi "now lets turn to israel" 15:17  |  jaihind 05/01/08
      151.   lakshmi to israel "eat your heart out" 15:22  |  jaihind 05/01/08
      152.   Crackdown on Outposts Is Appeasement 15:55  |  Gary 05/01/08
      153.   Lakshmi - regarding illegal settlements... 16:33  |  Mimi 05/01/08
      154.   #149 graphology as a racket 16:46  |  Rowan Berkeley 05/01/08
      155.   #59 peter wabbit guilty of ommission 16:52  |  Labhras 05/01/08
      156.   Lakshmi - regarding illegal settlements: continued part 1 16:53  |  Mimi 05/01/08
      157.   Lakshmi - regarding illegal settlements: continued part 2 17:01  |  Mimi 05/01/08
      158.   Esther #146 17:07  |  MAhmoud El Tizzi 05/01/08
      159.   # 14 A.M. @ Tel Aviv 17:23  |  Joseph E . post 1 05/01/08
      160.   # 14 A.M.@ Tel Aviv 17:27  |  Joseph E . post 2 05/01/08
      161.   Lakshmi - regarding the 1988 Palestinian Declaration of Indepence 17:33  |  Mimi 05/01/08
      162.   153 mimi,correction,ALL settlements are illegal because 17:46  |  lakshmi 05/01/08
      163.   TO Lancashire Lass 18:03  |  Raanan Geberer 05/01/08
      164.   lakshmi 18:21  |  Danite 05/01/08
      165.   #162 the hysterical lakschmi rides the horse backwards once more 18:22  |  victor hardman 05/01/08
      166.   lakshmi and non compliance 18:25  |  jaihind 05/01/08
      167.   lakshmi @26 19:29  |  GABE1 05/01/08
      168.   Lakshmi- Resolution 181 still on the books... 19:31  |  Mimi 05/01/08
      169.   161Mimi,correction,the PLODeclarationof 1988 did call for 181: 19:46  |  lakshmi 05/01/08
      170.   Crackdown 20:05  |  Ralph 05/01/08
      171.   Re Mahmoud #158...... Hilarious! 20:21  |  Esther 05/01/08
      172.   irish rubbernecker mumbles away 20:35  |  peter 05/01/08
      173.   Iakshmi # 162 UNGAR 181 Was Superseded 20:40  |  Jeff Northridge 05/01/08
      174.   lockshen and videogameboy 20:43  |  peter 05/01/08
      175.   164Danite,168mimi,Danite re:Kashmir the UN partitioned it into 3 21:12  |  lakshmi 05/01/08
      176.   #165 Victorpaul harrisman 21:27  |  Labhras 05/01/08
      177.   Rowan Berkeley - graphology 22:10  |  17 05/01/08
      178.   Good news - occupation/illegal settlement 22:29  |  17 05/01/08
      179.   172 Howdy Jeff Northridge,knight in shining armour!Correction:the 22:42  |  lakshmi 05/01/08
      180.   173peter of Montreal,despite your vulgar language I shall take 22:47  |  lakshmi 05/01/08
      181.   Esther @171-which Part was Hilarious? 23:02  |  Mahmoud El Tizzi 05/01/08
      182.   167 Gabe,on the contrary D`Amato maintains right to the end of 23:02  |  lakshmi 05/01/08
      183.   # 147 honestly victor harris? 23:06  |  eric 05/01/08
      184.   #169 Lakshmi, why are you correcting me? 23:17  |  Mimi 05/01/08
      185.   lakshmi "ta ta" 00:02  |  susie q 06/01/08
      186.   LAKSHMI #180 00:06  |  GABE1 06/01/08
      187.   184 mimi,correction,see my post 169,the PLO Declaration of 1988, 00:28  |  lakshmi 06/01/08
      188.   lokshen #180 00:28  |  GABE1 06/01/08
      189.   a modest proposal 00:38  |  nathan 06/01/08
      190.   peter wabbit out of his zoo again. 00:43  |  Labhras 06/01/08
      191.   #lakshimi, Caradon 00:54  |  duncan 06/01/08
      192.   lakshmi 01:15  |  Danite 06/01/08
      193.   #lakshimi damato wrong several times.p1 01:21  |  duncan 06/01/08
      194.   lakshimi damato p2 01:22  |  duncan 06/01/08
      195.   Iakshmi # 179 The Serious Argument 01:32  |  Jeff Northridge 06/01/08
      196.   Lakshmi, regarding Anthony D`Amato: 01:34  |  Mimi 06/01/08
      197.   johnboy on occupation 01:37  |  duncan 06/01/08
      198.   191 Howdy jeff Northridge,since you`re obviously not familiar 02:09  |  lakshmi 06/01/08
      199.   LOKSHEN #182 Backing the Wrong Horse 02:10  |  GABE1 06/01/08
      200.   192mimi & Duncan;mimi here it is:"Thus after all the wars,the 02:25  |  lakshmi 06/01/08
      201.   What twaddle 02:28  |  Mark Lincoln 06/01/08
      202.   #198 lakshimi 03:02  |  duncan 06/01/08
      203.   186&197 Gabe,the people of Palestine because it is the 03:21  |  lakshmi 06/01/08
      204.   Iakshmi # 196 The Mandate Ended 04:09  |  Jeff Northridge 06/01/08
      205.   Let Them Send Out The Entire Army! 06:54  |  Norman F Birnberg 06/01/08
      206.   #197 Duncan, wrong and wrong. 07:24  |  Johnboy 06/01/08
      207.   #194 duncan, on damato`s views. 07:41  |  Johnboy 06/01/08
      208.   #143 No, we are far apart, 17 07:56  |  Johnboy 06/01/08
      209.   @Swiss Dino 08:08  |  Ralph 06/01/08
      210.   #177 graphology 08:27  |  Rowan Berkeley 06/01/08
      211.   #207 rowan up the pole as over handwriting !! 09:04  |  victor hardman 06/01/08
      212.   #106, 112, harzion 09:34  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 06/01/08
      213.   leaving the graphological pseudo science aside 11:32  |  Rowan Berkeley 06/01/08
      214.   # 208 Jihnboy - "occupation"? - Nah 13:57  |  17 06/01/08
      215.   #206 johnboy 14:18  |  duncan 06/01/08
      216.   204 Howdy jeff Northridge,your example is fallacious,because 14:25  |  lakshmi 06/01/08
      217.   #207 johnboy shiels from the uk admitted that balfour was wrong 15:06  |  duncan 06/01/08
      218.   #207 johnboy balfour and the jewish state 15:12  |  duncan 06/01/08
      219.   #216 lakshimi 15:18  |  duncan 06/01/08
      220.   Ramon: Crackdown on outposts likely to start after Bush visit 21:20  |  Bruce 06/01/08
      221.   #214 17 acts as spokesman for the GCs 00:31  |  Johnboy 07/01/08
      222.   #215 a nonsensical argument, duncan 00:55  |  Johnboy 07/01/08
      223.   #217 Did he now, duncan? 01:08  |  Johnboy 07/01/08
      224.   #218 Another nonsensical statement, duncan 01:28  |  Johnboy 07/01/08
      225.   #223 johnboy 12:50  |  duncan 07/01/08
      226.   # 201 Johnboy - 15:09  |  17 07/01/08
      227.   # 221 Johnboy - I need your assistance 19:56  |  17 07/01/08
      228.   #222 johnboy simple common sense 23:20  |  duncan 07/01/08
      229.   #224 johnboy 23:30  |  duncan 07/01/08
      230.   #225 duncan, read the entire exchange 00:57  |  Johnboy 08/01/08
      231.   #226 Sure thing 17 01:15  |  Johnboy 08/01/08
      232.   #230 johnboy I read it 22:47  |  duncan 08/01/08
      233.   Johnboy 23:54  |  17 08/01/08
      234.   #230 johnboy 01:19  |  duncan 09/01/08
      235.   #217 johnboy 02:21  |  duncan 09/01/08
      236.   #233 Not much of an argument there, 17 10:37  |  Johnboy 09/01/08
      237.   #233 Nor here, 17 10:48  |  Johnboy 09/01/08
      238.   #233 Not here either, it appears, 17 10:51  |  Johnboy 09/01/08
      239.   #233 Look 17, I can`t let this pass either.... 11:02  |  Johnboy 09/01/08
      240.   #235 You understand wrong, duncan 11:09  |  Johnboy 09/01/08
      241.   #234 Then take off the rose-colored glasses, duncan 11:24  |  Johnboy 09/01/08
      242.   #232 Our respective sources, duncan 13:11  |  Johnboy 09/01/08
      243.   #233 Ow, look, one more try, 17 13:20  |  Johnboy 09/01/08
      244.   #224b johnboy why is the order wrong ? 23:09  |  duncan 09/01/08
      245.   #240 johnboy p1 23:11  |  duncan 09/01/08
      246.   #240 johnboy balfour wrong on powers/legal status of mandatory 23:14  |  duncan 09/01/08
      247.   #240 johnboy balfour p3 23:15  |  duncan 09/01/08
      248.   # 236 Johnnoy - Not much of an argument there, 23:44  |  17 09/01/08
      249.   #241 johnboy occupation 23:46  |  duncan 09/01/08
      250.   #242 johnboy balfour 23:59  |  duncan 09/01/08
      251.   # 237 Johnboy - "you have just sanctioned this:" 00:10  |  17 10/01/08
      252.   #237 johnboy 00:12  |  duncan 10/01/08
      253.   #239 johnboy 00:33  |  duncan 10/01/08
      254.   # 238 Johnboy - "Or do you think the ICRC exists to run a 00:39  |  17 10/01/08
      255.   # 239 Johnboy - the subject is GC 00:54  |  17 10/01/08
      256.   # 243 Johnboy - I occupy my appartment - is GC applicable ? 01:07  |  17 10/01/08
      257.   #243 johnboy 02:26  |  duncan 10/01/08
      258.   # 236 Johnboy - Not much of an agument here 03:14  |  17 10/01/08
      259.   #245 No, not misleading at all duncan 05:41  |  Johnboy 10/01/08
      260.   #246 Let me stop you right there, duncan 05:49  |  Johnboy 10/01/08
      261.   #247 Yours is a nothing argument, duncan 06:03  |  Johnboy 10/01/08
      262.   #248 Let me explain the argument again, 17 06:21  |  Johnboy 10/01/08
      263.   #249 You end up tying yourself in a knot, duncan 07:00  |  Johnboy 10/01/08
      264.   #252 Back atcha, duncan 07:39  |  Johnboy 10/01/08
      265.   #251 Not So Fast There, 17 08:06  |  Johnboy 10/01/08
      266.   #254 How many participated, 17?? 08:16  |  Johnboy 10/01/08
      267.   #255 I am stating the normative framework, 17 08:40  |  Johnboy 10/01/08
      268.   #256 This is what your argument has now descended into, 17 08:50  |  Johnboy 10/01/08
      269.   #257 Is that so, duncan 15:26  |  Johnboy 10/01/08
      270.   #249 You need to explain this throwaway line, duncan 15:46  |  Johnboy 10/01/08
      271.   Something I`d like to point out to both of you... 16:48  |  Johnboy 10/01/08
      272.   #270 Sorry duncan, a correction 01:26  |  Johnboy 11/01/08
      273.   Just to recap my argument, gentlemen 02:28  |  Johnboy 11/01/08
      274.   Johnboy - first things first 03:23  |  17 11/01/08
      275.   #274 I have already answered you in #273, 17 10:26  |  Johnboy 11/01/08
      276.   #274 Do you know what "dogma" is, 17? 11:30  |  Johnboy 11/01/08
      277.   johnboy 12:49  |  duncan 11/01/08
      278.   #259 johnboy on lon rubber stamping 13:00  |  duncan 11/01/08
      279.   johnboy could you please respond to #229 on article 22 13:04  |  duncan 11/01/08
      280.   #260 johnboy lon vs mandatory 13:10  |  duncan 11/01/08
      281.   # 276 Mr. Pictet who was there and I weas not... 19:43  |  17 11/01/08
      282.   #281 Not an ever-changing poistion, 17 02:14  |  Johnboy 12/01/08
      283.   #281 I see you need to short answer, 17 03:19  |  Johnboy 12/01/08
      284.   #261 johnboy 00:36  |  duncan 13/01/08
      285.   #263 johnboy p1 hcp/occupation 00:56  |  duncan 13/01/08
      286.   #263 johnboy occupation hcp p2 00:56  |  duncan 13/01/08
      287.   #264 johnboy correction on dirt 01:06  |  duncan 13/01/08
      288.   #269 johnboy un bias p1 01:37  |  duncan 13/01/08
      289.   #269 johnboy p2 01:38  |  duncan 13/01/08
      290.   #269 johnboy p3 01:38  |  duncan 13/01/08
      291.   #270 johnboy 01:40  |  duncan 13/01/08
      292.   #271 johnboy 01:54  |  duncan 13/01/08
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