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Our violent presence
By Amira Hass
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There is no Israeli whose presence in the West Bank is neutral. Civilian or armed, soldier or woman settler, resident of a quality-of-life settlement or a nearby outpost, MahsomWatch activist or guest at a settlement, Bezek worker or client at a Palestinian garage. All of them, all of us, are in this Palestinian territory, in the West Bank, because our state occupied it in 1967.

The presence of every Israeli in the West Bank is based on a regime of privilege that developed out of that primary act of occupation. We have the privilege of hiking in Palestinian areas to our heart's content, of buying subsidized housing for Jews only on the lands of Bethlehem, of raising cherries and grapes in the wadis of Hebron, of quarrying on the mountain slopes, of driving on roads whose land was expropriated from the indigenous inhabitants for public use.
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The Palestinians, in contrast to us, not only are not allowed to move from Hebron to Tel Aviv, because they like the sea, for example; they are not even allowed to visit the lands and homes their family owned before 1948, nor are they allowed to tour Galilee and visit relatives. The regime of travel permits that has been in place since 1991 deprives all Palestinians of the right to freedom of movement in Israel while the system of roadblocks limits their movement in their own territories.

The right to travel the land is a basic human right, and like any right, when it is not universal, it is a mutilated right, that is, it becomes a privilege. That is a fact, even if most Israelis repress or ignore it. Our presence in the Palestinian territories, which is based on military and political superiority, is therefore violent and arrogant by its very nature, even when it is expressed in pleasant ways, like cultivating gardens in settlements or taking a pre-Shabbat hike.

How do the Palestinians deal with this violence and arrogance? Some take up arms and hope to kill Israelis. However, most choose other ways, civilian and not military, to deal with our non-neutral presence, with the daily violence that is at the basis of every occupying regime. But let us not fool ourselves: most understand those who take up arms.

Therefore when the prime minister of the Ramallah government, Salam Fayyad, expressed his sorrow over the killing of two young armed hikers from Kiryat Arba last Friday, he managed to anger his public. "Any death is unnecessary" he was quoted in Haaretz as saying. These are wise and humane words. If those who are angry at him listened carefully, they would have heard him teaching the Israelis that the death of every Palestinian is also unnecessary. It is not his responsibility that Prime Minster Ehud Olmert did not express sorrow that Israeli soldiers killed Khaldiya Hamdan, a 51-year-old Gaza woman returning from Mecca via the Erez crossing.

But Fayyad did not make do with an expression of regret. According to the Palestinian daily Al Quds he said, "the military action was carried out on Palestinian land" and that the authority must "meet its security obligations." Haaretz reported that Fayyad said the authority had already arrested suspects and was cooperating with the Israeli security forces. Now the Shin Bet claims that the two individuals in custody (who gave themselves up) are connected to the Palestinian security services (which the Palestinians deny).

Fayyad suited his response to Israeli and American expectations from the Palestinian Authority. Despite the fact that the Israel Defense Forces is the sole sovereign over the West Bank, the PA is expected to protect Israeli citizens; that is, to act as a sub-contractor for the IDF and the Shin Bet. But Fayyad cannot meet these expectations, because they completely contradict the harshness of the basic experience of every Palestinian he is said to represent - which is the violence of our presence.
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  1.   A well-written piece 10:11  |  Colin Wright 03/01/08
  2.   Cause and effect 10:19  |  FOX 03/01/08
  3.   ARAB presence in Israel is what?? Why not look at both sides? 10:24  |  PETER SM 03/01/08
  4.   This is the road 10:31  |  Leo 03/01/08
  5.   Amira knows this topic better than anybody 10:31  |  Natallie Durson 03/01/08
  6.   Digusting! Amira Proposes Ethnic Cleansing of Jews 10:33  |  Mark Hamil 03/01/08
  7.   It STILL Isn`t "Palestinian" Territory- And Never Will Be 10:43  |  Yishai Kohen 03/01/08
  8.   Amira, it`s all so disgraceful and unjust 10:44  |  Dutch 03/01/08
  9.   Colin W. diatribes of hate 10:44  |  FOX 03/01/08
  10.   Amira Hass` Fatal Flaw 10:47  |  Jeff Northridge 03/01/08
  11.   to the haaretz editor 11:04  |  zevulun 03/01/08
  12.   Fox, Can`t seem to look beyond his nose again... 11:06  |  dutch 03/01/08
  13.   Occupation de luxe 11:08  |  Esther 03/01/08
  14.   # 8 jeff`s fatal flaw 11:12  |  Axel 03/01/08
  15.   Jeff`s your fatal flaw 11:14  |  Dutch 03/01/08
  16.   # 7 yishai 11:17  |  Axel 03/01/08
  17.   Re Yishai #7 11:22  |  Esther 03/01/08
  18.   Jeff Northridge #10 - still droning? 11:35  |  dana 03/01/08
  19.   german axel 11:40  |  honigstein 03/01/08
  20.   Amira, what are you doing in the West Bank? 11:42  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 03/01/08
  21.   Judea & Samaria 11:45  |  Steven 03/01/08
  22.   hass doesnt approve of arrogance? then stop being arrogant 11:47  |  victor hardman 03/01/08
  23.   Ms. Hass seems oblivious to history 11:51  |  josef cohen 03/01/08
  24.   Ms. Hass seems oblivious to history 11:58  |  josef cohen 03/01/08
  25.   #16 Axel and #17 Esther 12:01  |  Yishai Kohen 03/01/08
  26.   To Yishai Kohen #7 12:01  |  Oetis 03/01/08
  27.   Doris (dutch) where has your nose been? 12:03  |  FOX 03/01/08
  28.   dana "i am definitely not getting into an argument" 12:04  |  danaofarabia 03/01/08
  29.   Pure anti-Semite propaganda 12:07  |  Bo 03/01/08
  30.   #12 Dutch - Illegal expansion? 12:11  |  Bo 03/01/08
  31.   Esther from Tel Aviv 12:14  |  jackie 03/01/08
  32.   Haas` Presence is Dangerous and Arrogant 12:17  |  sptz 03/01/08
  33.   #13 Esther - The area is disputed 12:18  |  Bo 03/01/08
  34.   #14 Axel - I agree 12:23  |  Bo 03/01/08
  35.   It is about occupation not truth 12:27  |  charles enderlin 03/01/08
  36.   Brilliant article 12:32  |  Jacob 03/01/08
  37.   #19 Honigstein 12:36  |  Olli 03/01/08
  38.   Amira Very well said , congratulazioni 12:54  |  Clickright 03/01/08
  39.   To #23 13:00  |  Oetis 03/01/08
  40.   A well-written piece? 13:16  |  Michael 03/01/08
  41.   # 5 Natallie Durson @ Los Angeles / Ca 13:21  |  Joseph E . 03/01/08
  42.   #18, dana 13:38  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 03/01/08
  43.   unequal systems... 13:38  |  Tenar 03/01/08
  44.   Dana, up late and drowsy re #18 Jeff 13:39  |  FOX 03/01/08
  45.   The violence is mutual 13:45  |  B 03/01/08
  46.   Axel`s flaw, though not fatal #14 13:46  |  FOX 03/01/08
  47.   Amira, the right to travel the land is not a basic human right 13:49  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 03/01/08
  48.   Clickfool 13:52  |  Nik "BANNED" Miller 03/01/08
  49.   Mark Hamil #6 and love for Israel 13:54  |  The Other Alan 03/01/08
  50.   A xel - Borders!! 14:15  |  Lisa 03/01/08
  51.   Yehuda & Shomron belong to Israel!! 14:21  |  Lisa 03/01/08
  52.   Thank You Yishai #7 - for THE REAL FACTS!!! 14:25  |  Suzanne 03/01/08
  53.   Amira decide are Israeli Arabs Palestinian or not?? 14:29  |  Tony 03/01/08
  54.   Our violent presence 14:34  |  Witness 03/01/08
  55.   Amira Hass - makes Haaretz Newspaper a total Joke!! 14:35  |  Dr Steve 03/01/08
  56.   Arabs lost the War 14:53  |  Terminator 03/01/08
  57.   10Howdy jeff Northridge,wrong as usual! The 1949 armistice line 14:56  |  lakshmi 03/01/08
  58.   # 25 bo 15:00  |  Axel 03/01/08
  59.   Bravo! 15:00  |  Mandulab 03/01/08
  60.   10Howdy jeff Northridge . . contd. thus ratifying the British 15:03  |  lakshmi 03/01/08
  61.   # 17 Esther / TA 15:08  |  Joseph E . 03/01/08
  62.   # 45 lisa 15:10  |  Axel 03/01/08
  63.   Hass Talks Trash 15:19  |  eddie 03/01/08
  64.   This is the deal, Amira, but you can still complain 15:24  |  Tosefta 03/01/08
  65.   olli "to christians land is just land" 15:36  |  honigstein 03/01/08
  66.   tosefta "palestinian resistance hitting soldiers and settlers" 15:45  |  katyusha 03/01/08
  67.   You have got to be kidding ... 15:47  |  Elihu Stone 03/01/08
  68.   tosefta if you are too shy to reply me 15:52  |  katyusha 03/01/08
  69.   to Bo #29 , stop the cowardice of hiding behind anti-semitism 15:54  |  clickright 03/01/08
  70.   HAAS = ARAFAT 15:54  |  Rafi 03/01/08
  71.   Lakshmi: #57 You can`t go back to 1947 15:54  |  B 03/01/08
  72.   Witness 15:57  |  Other witness 03/01/08
  73.   Same old stuff 16:01  |  Binco 03/01/08
  74.   PRESENCE of Amira Hass in Ramallah is "OCCUPATION". Relocate her 16:04  |  Vittorio 03/01/08
  75.   Hate Orator 16:04  |  Luv Writer 03/01/08
  76.   colin`s comment 16:05  |  David 03/01/08
  77.   History vs. Conscience 16:06  |  Joshua 03/01/08
  78.   West Bank is not Israel 16:08  |  Marilyn 03/01/08
  79.   olli germany christians and land 16:08  |  honigstein 03/01/08
  80.   Israel presence 16:12  |  Ralph 03/01/08
  81.   The problem of lying to oneself 16:20  |  Mark Lincoln 03/01/08
  82.   Dutch # 15 Your Fatal Flaws 16:20  |  Jeff Northridge 03/01/08
  83.   #9 Fox, who actually is engaged in rejectionism? 16:27  |  Ben Alofs 03/01/08
  84.   axel almost 16 million germans were expelled from eastern europe 16:28  |  honigstein 03/01/08
  85.   71 B. a lot of obiter dicta from you! 16:32  |  lakshmi 03/01/08
  86.   Lawrence, consciece and history 16:36  |  Elihu Stone 03/01/08
  87.   As usual Ms. Hass lies again 16:40  |  Gee 03/01/08
  88.   Return of the shallow multi-headed Hydra (aka flushman/katyusha) 16:44  |  Tosefta 03/01/08
  89.   Cleansing Judea and Samaria of Jews was wrong 16:47  |  David 03/01/08
  90.   #39 there are no 181 borders 16:53  |  josef cohen 03/01/08
  91.   Witness, 54 violent presence 16:55  |  Elihu Stone 03/01/08
  92.   Haas: Palestinians reject reconciliation 17:04  |  Boris 03/01/08
  93.   dana # 18 What Does That Have To With Anything? 17:06  |  Jeff Northridge 03/01/08
  94.   Marilyn, 78 17:08  |  Elihu Stone 03/01/08
  95.   #23 & #24 17:10  |  Mickey 03/01/08
  96.   dr death aka ben alofs 17:21  |  100000dutchnazis 03/01/08
  97.   "our" violent presence?? - What means "our"? 17:33  |  felix 03/01/08
  98.   Axel # 14 The Proper Term Is "Boundary" And Not "Border" 17:39  |  Jeff Northridge 03/01/08
  99.   I fail to see why Palestinians have a right to travel in Israel 17:44  |  McQueen 03/01/08
  100.   Amira listen to yourself,restrictions in 1991 17:55  |  TOMY 03/01/08
  101.   Marlilyn and Israel complex 17:57  |  Terminator 03/01/08
  102.   arabs rejected communist and judeo-christian 18:05  |  bozhidar balkas 03/01/08
  103.   Re Yishai #25 18:05  |  Esther 03/01/08
  104.   Hass`s article - a violent action against the truth 18:07  |  smarter then Olmert 03/01/08
  105.   rights+privileges and living in Ramallah 18:15  |  nina 03/01/08
  106.   In a just world the Zionists would be sent packing 18:24  |  Chanalau, Tova 03/01/08
  107.   # 98 jeff 18:26  |  Axel 03/01/08
  108.   The occupiers of this area are the Arabs 18:27  |  Zev 03/01/08
  109.   # 25 yishai 18:31  |  Axel 03/01/08
  110.   to#74 18:41  |  nina 03/01/08
  111.   amira hass 18:47  |  gilberto 03/01/08
  112.   Battle of the drones (Dana #18) - amended version 18:48  |  Tosefta 03/01/08
  113.   # 64 Tosefta...a fair and balanced post 18:49  |  Lynn 03/01/08
  114.   amira seems to be a little bit on the hypocritical 18:52  |  Lynn 03/01/08
  115.   Arabs have 22 countries 18:53  |  Terminator 03/01/08
  116.   Marylin #78 18:54  |  SHIMON 03/01/08
  117.   Jeff receives same operation as Harrisman 18:54  |  Labhras 03/01/08
  118.   The truth hurts ay? 18:56  |  Kain 03/01/08
  119.   The violence occurs whenever Israel retreats. 19:00  |  Chaim 03/01/08
  120.   #30 Bo is ill informed 19:26  |  Labhras 03/01/08
  121.   #55 "Minimily educated", Dr Steve? A bit more about checkpoints 19:31  |  Ben Alofs 03/01/08
  122.   #49 Other Alan, quite true! 19:38  |  Ben Alofs 03/01/08
  123.   Iakshmi # 57 & 60 UNGAR 181 Is Dead 19:41  |  Jeff Northridge 03/01/08
  124.   tosefta goes out of his way to kiss dana`s ass 19:47  |  katyusha 03/01/08
  125.   tosefta "what should a clever observer do" 19:49  |  katyusha 03/01/08
  126.   ben alofs palestinians in israel and east jerusalem 19:55  |  ilovepals 03/01/08
  127.   Justice 20:01  |  Ya`akov Ben-Israel 03/01/08
  128.   "...because `our` state..." OUR? Just what are you talking about? 20:11  |  common sense 03/01/08
  129.   #96 To Nathan der Weise, Zadok the priest, fagin, har-zion... 20:15  |  Ben Alofs 03/01/08
  130.   Labhras # 117 What Lord Caradon Said 20:24  |  Jeff Northridge 03/01/08
  131.   Armistice line of `73 war 20:39  |  peter 03/01/08
  132.   choices have consequences 20:42  |  Scharker Yid 03/01/08
  133.   Thank You Amira Hass 20:57  |  Maki 03/01/08
  134.   response to Marc No.6 21:01  |  Peace lover 03/01/08
  135.   Tosefta Do You Think AMIRA reads your posts? 21:02  |  Gil 03/01/08
  136.   esther #103 21:08  |  G(G)S 03/01/08
  137.   Arrogance in Judea and Samaria 21:15  |  KUTW 03/01/08
  138.   Territory ?under dispute? 21:26  |  KUTW 03/01/08
  139.   The roadblocks sing-song 21:28  |  KUTW 03/01/08
  140.   The homes owned before 1948 21:31  |  KUTW 03/01/08
  141.   What a great article! 21:36  |  American GI 03/01/08
  142.   #2 Cause and effect 21:43  |  Boycott 03/01/08
  143.   Witness and another witness 21:46  |  Yet another witness 03/01/08
  144.   Dutch Tax money 21:51  |  mar 03/01/08
  145.   #129 KUTW 21:56  |  Boycott 03/01/08
  146.   amira disagrees with Lord Caradon 21:59  |  peter 03/01/08
  147.   amira disagrees with Eugene Rostow 22:03  |  peter 03/01/08
  148.   re: #49 to The other Alan: Wrong but I will explain Why 22:18  |  Mark Hamil 03/01/08
  149.   #96 NdW, Zadok, fagin, shylock, flashman,.. 22:19  |  Ben Alofs 03/01/08
  150.   # 132 peter 22:26  |  Axel 03/01/08
  151.   Declare War, Suffer the Consequences 22:38  |  David Samson 03/01/08
  152.   #132 What cheeky Peter omits to tell us... 22:46  |  Ben Alofs 03/01/08
  153.   Thank God 22:53  |  rick 03/01/08
  154.   #6 Mark Hamil in NY. "Once the Arabs are gone." 22:57  |  Maureen Ann 03/01/08
  155.   And besides, peter 22:57  |  Axel 03/01/08
  156.   re: #10 Jeff Northridge is Attacked here Cause He is RIGHT! 23:04  |  Mark Hamil 03/01/08
  157.   amira hass,you belong in traitor `olmert`s cabinet 23:05  |  chaim 03/01/08
  158.   peter of the "THE" credo 23:11  |  Axel 03/01/08
  159.   rick, the South Africa paradigm is done and dusted 23:15  |  Jake 03/01/08
  160.   Rule of Law 23:17  |  Ken Waltzer 03/01/08
  161.   #117 labarse of arabia and more crass history 23:17  |  victor hardman 03/01/08
  162.   #83, Ben Alofs 23:18  |  Jason, Ph.D. 03/01/08
  163.   dr death aka ben alofs 23:21  |  100000dutch 03/01/08
  164.   #137 peter Wabbit bad memory--again 23:22  |  Labhras 03/01/08
  165.   #135 Axel stumbles on a truth 23:22  |  peter 03/01/08
  166.   dr death from bangor 23:24  |  100000dutch 03/01/08
  167.   you`d have thought that Tosefta would have smelt dana`s inanity 23:24  |  bandana 03/01/08
  168.   Ben Alofs, losing his touch, way too much 23:26  |  Jake 03/01/08
  169.   Joseph re Esther #61 23:26  |  bandananana 03/01/08
  170.   ben alofs 23:36  |  100000dutch 03/01/08
  171.   Rick 23:43  |  Raysie baby 03/01/08
  172.   #162 Jason 23:43  |  Ben Alofs 03/01/08
  173.   145. Boycott 23:46  |  KUTW 03/01/08
  174.   to 141 23:47  |  Israeli Patriot 03/01/08
  175.   to 118 23:50  |  winner 03/01/08
  176.   Ben Alofs, was the White Rose in Germany also Communist? 23:53  |  Jake 03/01/08
  177.   # 162 Jason, Ph.D. trys to impress with fake credentials 23:55  |  Labhras 03/01/08
  178.   to 103 23:56  |  Chaim 03/01/08
  179.   Axel`s Law 23:56  |  Tom 03/01/08
  180.   # 162 jason 23:58  |  Axel 03/01/08
  181.   Axel regurgitates and thinks it`s news 00:01  |  peter 04/01/08
  182.   Ben Alofs, who was Marinus van der Lubbe? 00:07  |  Jake 04/01/08
  183.   axel you talk so much come and help them get back the golan 00:16  |  golani 04/01/08
  184.   ben alofs is a dutch groupie who has been fawning 00:21  |  100000dutch 04/01/08
  185.   Ben Alofs # 152 Do You Have A Reference For That? 00:31  |  Jeff Northridge 04/01/08
  186.   Alofs, Inadmissability of territory acquisition by war 00:46  |  Jake 04/01/08
  187.   rick # 153 Thank God 00:57  |  Jeff Northridge 04/01/08
  188.   Right on Amira! 01:01  |  peacelover 04/01/08
  189.   "Palestinans are not allowed to move from Hebron to Tel Aviv" 01:07  |  Jake 04/01/08
  190.   123 Howdy jeff Northridge, for the nth time,both myself & 01:33  |  lakshmi 04/01/08
  191.   That`s it. Tomorrow I begin contacting sponsors of Haaretz 01:35  |  Steve Randolph 04/01/08
  192.   katyusha # 124 tosefta goes out of his way to kiss dana`s ass 01:39  |  American in NY 04/01/08
  193.   That`s it. Tomorrow I begin contacting sponsors of Haaretz 01:40  |  Steve Randolph 04/01/08
  194.   18,Dana,Howdy jeff is incorrigible,if you check my posts 57 & 60 01:48  |  lakshmi 04/01/08
  195.   Slowman`s wisdom on skipping posts 02:01  |  Amira Hass 04/01/08
  196.   163 Jake. Excellent rendition of the real world for the... 02:08  |  bat yam 04/01/08
  197.   reverse the partition 02:10  |  solomon 04/01/08
  198.   amira THE angry Jewess 02:15  |  GABE1 04/01/08
  199.   To Axel der Grenzmeister (#150) 02:26  |  Morris Valentine 04/01/08
  200.   Jake 02:30  |  Connie 04/01/08
  201.   To Axel (#158) on the inadmissability of conquered territories 02:32  |  Morris Valentine 04/01/08
  202.   To Marilyn 02:34  |  Des Carroll 04/01/08
  203.   #167 Steve Randrolph 02:42  |  Labhras 04/01/08
  204.   Murine An, Murine An, where were you during Haj my deer? 02:50  |  Jalal Shahid 04/01/08
  205.   salomon you have a great idea and inspires even greater ones 03:01  |  Genuine Tosefta 04/01/08
  206.   Rick ...on war 03:02  |  Lynn 04/01/08
  207.   # 160 Ken Waltzer....hey, I lived outside of E Lansing 03:14  |  Lynn 04/01/08
  208.   This song is dedicated to Amira Hass 03:35  |  Jake 04/01/08
  209.   171 Solomon,ofcourse the zionist dream of a Greater Israel was & 03:42  |  lakshmi 04/01/08
  210.   always the same 03:51  |  gil leder 04/01/08
  211.   173 Morris Valentine to Axel,MV the inadmissibility to land taken 03:55  |  lakshmi 04/01/08
  212.   Yishai #7 04:13  |  melchizedek 04/01/08
  213.   The Hell of Israel Is Better than the Paradise of Abbas/Hamas (1) 04:37  |  Genuine Tosefta 04/01/08
  214.   The Hell of Israel Is Better than the Paradise of Abbas/Hamas (2) 04:40  |  Genuine Tosefta 04/01/08
  215.   The Hell of Israel Is Better than the Paradise of Abbas/Hamas (3) 04:45  |  Genuine Tosefta 04/01/08
  216.   Separation for Peace, Land for Life 04:46  |  Mark Hamil 04/01/08
  217.   The Hell of Israel Is Better than the Paradise of Abbas/Hamas (4) 04:46  |  Genuine Tosefta 04/01/08
  218.   Esther in Tel Aviv 04:50  |  Avrum 04/01/08
  219.   Of course, no one questions the Arab right for Greater Arabia 04:51  |  Genuine Tosefta 04/01/08
  220.   Of course, no one questions the Arab right for Greater Arabia 04:53  |  Genuine Tosefta 04/01/08
  221.   #73 Morris Valentine and pre-1870 Int`l Law 04:53  |  Johnboy 04/01/08
  222.   Lakshmi, this "Greater Israel" is not even visible on a world map 04:55  |  Jake 04/01/08
  223.   #154 teaching Occupier Maureen an Aussie About Land Rights 04:55  |  Mark Hamil 04/01/08
  224.   DEWS CARROL Please Explain?No reply when challenged.Interesting!! 04:55  |  PETER SM 04/01/08
  225.   violent settlers 05:03  |  marcel 04/01/08
  226.   Contact Haaretz Advertisers, Tell them to Have Amira Fired! 05:04  |  Mark Hamil 04/01/08
  227.   Melchizedek = "my king is justice" 05:08  |  Jake 04/01/08
  228.   AMIRA HASS IS SO PREDICTABLE AND REPETITIVE; JUST B O R I N G 05:09  |  Jorge 04/01/08
  229.   marilyn in australia re. peter sm 05:23  |  maria 04/01/08
  230.   Amira is actually a zionist 05:23  |  Harry 04/01/08
  231.   #188 05:30  |  Moshe 04/01/08
  232.   Arabs belong in Arabia! Israel belongs to the Jews! 05:45  |  Palestiniansareamyth 04/01/08
  233.   To Lakshmi re Mr D`Amato`s article 05:46  |  Morris Valentine 04/01/08
  234.   #19 dana trusts johnboy the snake-oil law "expert" re Jeff N 06:04  |  CK Tan 04/01/08
  235.   Misguided Moshe #195 06:21  |  mariapalestina 04/01/08
  236.   Re Harry #194 06:22  |  Esther 04/01/08
  237.   MARYLIN .It`s your side that claims it ALL in WRITING 06:31  |  PETER SM 04/01/08
  238.   Re Mark #190 06:32  |  Esther 04/01/08
  239.   Some light in a sea of blind arrogance! 06:33  |  Niva dos santos 04/01/08
  240.   Of course, no one questions the Arab right for Greater Arabia 06:38  |  Genuine Tosefta 04/01/08
  241.   Of course, no one questions the Arabs right for Greater Arabia 06:40  |  Genuine Toseftat 04/01/08
  242.   lakshmi the SELF-PROCLAIMED international law expert CANNOT 06:40  |  CK Tan 04/01/08
  243.   To Jake (#163) 06:49  |  m 04/01/08
  244.   Amira is violent and immoral 07:15  |  Judith 04/01/08
  245.   #154 maureen anne 07:24  |  dannyAUSTRALIA 04/01/08
  246.   CKTAN Johnboy also said Israel hit nothing in Syria 07:25  |  PETER SM 04/01/08
  247.   AMERICAN GI 07:29  |  DANNY AUSTRALIA 04/01/08
  248.   #54 re`our violent presence 07:38  |  danny 04/01/08
  249.   arrogant behaviour 09:30  |  rm 04/01/08
  250.   Slicha Shenatzachnu 09:38  |  Daniel 04/01/08
  251.   Another leftist Israeli apologizing for Pal. terror 09:41  |  Marwan مروان خوري 04/01/08
  252.   Colin Wright who was so right 09:41  |  BBSNews 04/01/08
  253.   CK Tan about Johnboy 09:58  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 04/01/08
  254.   #223 a lecture on normal behaviour from the us a? 10:09  |  victor hardman 04/01/08
  255.   so BS news 10:19  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 04/01/08
  256.   # 177 morris 10:38  |  Axel 04/01/08
  257.   History Repeats 12:46  |  Knott Bushman 04/01/08
  258.   #216 CK TAN runs off his "facts" 14:12  |  Johnboy 04/01/08
  259.   #228 What did the IAF hit, PETER SM? 14:45  |  Johnboy 04/01/08
  260.   #33 Bo, the area is "occupied" 15:03  |  Johnboy 04/01/08
  261.   #215 Morris Valentine 15:19  |  Johnboy 04/01/08
  262.   American in NY #174 - this calls for a (silly bad) pun 16:31  |  dana 04/01/08
  263.   Peter # 132 so what is occupied? 16:55  |  American in NY 04/01/08
  264.   #228 Peter SM - thanks for the extra detail :-) 17:56  |  CK Tan 04/01/08
  265.   #258 johnboy uses MORE stink to COVER UP his STINKY TRACKS 1 20:00  |  CK Tan 05/01/08
  266.   #258 johnboy uses MORE stink to COVER UP his STINKY TRACKS 2 20:03  |  CK Tan 05/01/08
  267.   #258 johnboy uses MORE stink to COVER UP his STINKY TRACKS 1 20:06  |  CK Tan 05/01/08
  268.   #258 johnboy uses MORE stink to COVER UP his STINKY TRACKS 2 20:07  |  CK Tan 05/01/08
  269.   Dana 04:57  |  American in NY 06/01/08
  270.   Peter # 131 your answer is... 05:06  |  American in NY 06/01/08
  271.   #265 CK Tan simply repeats the same errors Part 1 07:02  |  Johnboy 06/01/08
  272.   #265 CK Tan simply repeats the same errors Part 2 07:11  |  Johnboy 06/01/08
  273.   #266 CK Tan seems to be unaware of what MACCL has to do 07:19  |  Johnboy 06/01/08
  274.   #272 johnboy inadvertently ADMITS he has been LYING all along 11:14  |  CK Tan 06/01/08
  275.   #273 johnboy tries to use MACCSL as his own mouthpiece 11:17  |  CK Tan 06/01/08
  276.   Self perpetuating violence 20:20  |  Dyaa Ajkabache 07/01/08
  277.   Well said! 21:37  |  Husam 15/02/08
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