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Last update - 09:20 27/12/2007 Apology in Kafr Qasem By Tom Segev Tags: Kafr Qasem On October 29, 1956, a little after 5 P.M., several dozen Kafr Qasem residents were coming home from work, unaware that a curfew had been declared because of the start of the Sinai Campaign. Border police lined them up and shot them dead: 47 people, Arabs, citizens of Israel. The monument erected for them also perpetuates the memory of an elderly man who suffered a stroke when he was informed that his son was among those killed, along with the fetus that one of the murdered women was carrying in her womb. People were also wounded. The slaughter was anchored in a contingency plan to expel the village's inhabitants to Jordan. At first, the authorities tried to suppress the news through the military censor. Shimon Peres, now Israel's president, was the Defense Ministry's director general at the time. Only about a half dozen survivors of the massacre are still alive today. Most of the 18,000 inhabitants of the village were born after the slaughter, about 15 percent of them are related to the victims. They live with the heritage of the massacre as a key element in their identities. Advertisement Last week President Peres went to Kafr Qasem - his office said it was to honor the Id al-Adha holiday. He carefully phrased his words on the massacre as part of a statement praising peace: "I have chosen to visit Kafr Qasem, where in the past a very serious event occurred that we greatly regret, and today in practice there is cooperation and a life of peace between Jews and Arabs." Kafr Qasem Mayor Sami Issa interprets these words as an apology. "'We regret' and 'We apologize' are the same thing," he said. Speaking with local leaders, Peres also used the word apology, according to the president's spokeswoman. Peres is the first sitting president to apologize for the massacre. Ceremonious apologies for historical injustices and gestures of national reconciliation have become a rather common phenomenon everywhere in recent years, from South Africa to Argentina. To evaluate them correctly we must examine to what degree they express sincere remorse and true recognition of responsibility. We must also examine the extent to which lessons have been learned that have shaped policies on the ground. The Israeli case is not unambiguous. The Kafr Qasem massacre shocked the country and gave rise to a public debate on basic questions of morality and democracy. Twelve years after the end of World War II this discussion took place against the backdrop of the Holocaust. The murderers were put on public trial. Benjamin Halevi, who was later one of the judges in Adolf Eichmann's trial, asked one of the accused whether he would also justify a Nazi soldier who obeyed orders. The trial gave rise to every Israel Defense Forces soldier's obligation to refuse to obey a "blatantly illegal" order such as one to murder civilians. However, not long after they were convicted and sentenced to prison, the murderers were released, and a few years later the military government was revoked. The IDF is not doing enough to instill in its soldiers the obligation to refuse to obey a blatantly illegal order; it is acting with determination against conscientious objection. In the decades since the Kafr Qasem massacre, IDF soldiers have killed thousands of innocent Palestinians, the vast majority of them in the Gaza Strip and West Bank. From time to time they have also killed Arab demonstrators, citizens of Israel. To this day the Arabs of Israel are not citizens with equal rights, and Israel insists that it does not want to be a state of all its citizens but rather a "Jewish and democratic" state. Government representatives do not participate in the annual memorial service for the Kafr Qasem massacre, but the president's apology is likely to be mentioned one day as a first step toward a historic declaration of reconciliation between the Jews and Palestinians. Most Israelis still find it hard to acknowledge that they bear historical responsibility for the creation of the Palestinian refugee problem. The Zionist vision is based, among other things, on the assumption that its fulfillment need not cause injustice to anyone: If only the Arabs would relinquish their nationalist yearnings and agree to the fulfillment of our dream, it would be good for everyone, including them. This historical fiction is very harmful because as long as we convince ourselves that we have no part in the responsibility for the creation of the Palestinian tragedy, we have no real reason to try to correct the injustice. This is the importance of acknowledging our responsibility. When the day comes to publish the historic declaration of reconciliation, it will be possible to remember Peres' Kafr Qasem apology and the main lesson that emerges from it: It does not hurt to ask forgiveness. Bookmark to del.icio.us   Hezbollah's surprise Al-Quds al-Arabi: Hezbollah has new missiles with a range 'Israel can't even fathom.' Hot 100 Tzipi Livni is featured in Forbes magazine's list of the world's most powerful women.   1.   there are no `palestinian` refugees 09:23  |  joe 26/12/07   2.   Kafr Qasem. 10:11  |  sandra chitayat 26/12/07   3.   A nice sentiment 10:19  |  RW 26/12/07   4.   We have acknowledged.. or are you a pinhead? 10:20  |  Yardena 26/12/07   5.   "The Kafr Qasem massecre shocked the country" 10:29  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 26/12/07   6.   To joe 10:47  |  Dirk 26/12/07   7.   Interesting documentary on Jews for Jesus last night 10:53  |  Clickfool 26/12/07   8.   Well said Tom - Israel`s My Lai massacre 11:08  |  John K 26/12/07   9.   How about Palestinian acknowledgement of the damage they cause us 11:31  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 26/12/07   10.   An Israeli Apology and $2.50 will buy you a coffee 11:35  |  Natallie Durson 26/12/07   11.   Segev your pathetic!! 11:37  |  Suzanne 26/12/07   12.   STOP APOLIGIZING FOR THINGS YOU didn`t DO!!! 11:39  |  Suzanne 26/12/07   13.   THE CORRECT APOLOGY - Sorry we let the arab terrorists stay!! 11:41  |  Suzanne 26/12/07   14.   What Will Be Made Of This By Apologists 11:43  |  Yaakov Sullivan 26/12/07   15.   Statistics of Israeli Violations against the Palestinian People 11:52  |  Dav 26/12/07   16.   More crimes 11:56  |  Dav 26/12/07   17.   and More crimes 12:00  |  Dav 26/12/07   18.   intellectually dishonest completely disingenuous 12:03  |  josef cohen 26/12/07   19.   Clickfool,doped Brit squaddies killed 2 Danish soldiers 12:16  |  Absolute Sweden 26/12/07   20.   Apologies 12:48  |  Ex-syrian jew 26/12/07   21.   Aplologize and not do it again 12:55  |  Tzvi 26/12/07   22.   Pals murdered Jews since the diaspora. Enough apologies 13:04  |  Jason 26/12/07   23.   What is the root of the problem ? 13:18  |  Altalena 26/12/07   24.   Have the leftists apologized to the Mizrachim? 13:26  |  Binyamin Dissen 26/12/07   25.   Tragedy 13:55  |  Ralph 26/12/07   26.   A GENIUS MOVE, SIMPLY A GENIUS ONE 14:03  |  indrajaya 26/12/07   27.   P.1You`re wrong Mr Segev: WE DON`T BEAR HISTORICAL RESPONSIBILITY 14:03  |  Max Zinger,P.Chimist 26/12/07   28.   OK, Suzanne 14:03  |  Murray 26/12/07   29.   Tom Segev is right 14:09  |  Jacob 26/12/07   30.   Ouch 14:19  |  jjvanka 26/12/07   31.   The problem with this article is that it mentions a well known 14:20  |  lakshmi 26/12/07   32.   When the arabs apologize for the Hebron masacre 14:26  |  Joeseph 26/12/07   33.   P.2 You`re wrong Mr. Segev "WE DON`T BEAR HISTORICAL RESPONSIBILI 14:28  |  Max Zinger,P.Chimist 26/12/07   34.   Sorry for what???? 14:29  |  sptz 26/12/07   35.   P. 3. You`re wrong Mr. Segev"WE DON"T BEAR HISTORICAL RESPONSIBIL 14:44  |  Max Zinger,P.Chimist 26/12/07   36.   Apologies, King Hussein, and Peace 14:47  |  Reluctant Hawk 26/12/07   37.   Our part: A refusal to roll over and die 14:54  |  David Teich 26/12/07   38.   The Loud Mouths with the Empty Heads 14:55  |  Yaakov Sullivan 26/12/07   39.   jewish only israel #20 14:58  |  observations of NB 26/12/07   40.   When do they accept their role in their own tragedy and ours? 15:08  |  Steven 26/12/07   41.   What then Mr Teich Do You Suggest Be Done? 15:15  |  Yaakov Sullivan 26/12/07   42.   #40 Great. Read also "The Jewish Singularity" by Avri Barr 15:21  |  Itzik 26/12/07   43.   Tom Segev, move to South Africa 15:29  |  Sidney 26/12/07   44.   Margie from South Africa 15:31  |  Labhras 26/12/07   45.   to # 38 Yaakov Sullivan; I agree with your post.Never Did .. 15:33  |  Max Zinger,P.Chimist 26/12/07   46.   Segev is an Arab hater and a racist 15:44  |  Frank 26/12/07   47.   1956 Tragedy 15:47  |  Yariv 26/12/07   48.   Actually, the State apologized right away 15:49  |  Tosefta 26/12/07   49.   For Absolute Sweden # 19 15:50  |  Clickfool 26/12/07   50.   # 40 Steven, Arabs never accepted 15:53  |  Max Zinger,P.Chimist 26/12/07   51.   That is what we europeans name 15:53  |  Kris 26/12/07   52.   may the arabs be so nice as 16:10  |  Kris 26/12/07   53.   # 46 Frank, No, Segev is not a hater of Jews or Arabs,I read all 16:11  |  Max Zinger,P.Chimist 26/12/07   54.   apology in Kafr Qasem 16:20  |  I.Barr 26/12/07   55.   I Barr on the apologies 16:29  |  Yaakov Sullivan 26/12/07   56.   Does Tom Segev make the same demands on the Arabs? 16:42  |  Genuine Tosefta 26/12/07   57.   Cipora... 16:44  |  Teresa-Maria (Tess) 26/12/07   58.   Genuine Tosefta on Arabs 16:51  |  Yaakov Sullivan 26/12/07   59.   We must also acknowledge santa, the tooth fairy and easter bunny 16:55  |  smarter then olmert 26/12/07   60.   #56 Genuine Tosfta 16:55  |  tbora 26/12/07   61.   Doing Something Besides Lending Lip Service 16:57  |  Tzfonit 26/12/07   62.   Another diatribe by a post sionist 17:00  |  allon 26/12/07   63.   Another diatribe by a post sionist 17:00  |  Allon 26/12/07   64.   Palestinian Tragedy or ISRAELI TRAGEDY ? 17:01  |  ... 26/12/07   65.   A good article that majority of Zionists will fail to appreciate 17:08  |  Joe 26/12/07   66.   Atilla/Atlas Liman, no love for you until you go back to Greek ro 17:14  |  Genuine Tosefta 26/12/07   67.   Again I ask another Reporter Here 17:17  |  Sam Weinstein 26/12/07   68.   Atilla/Atlas Liman the Greek,Islam drives you crazy,no love for y 17:20  |  Genuine Tosefta 26/12/07   69.   apology 17:21  |  geroge 26/12/07   70.   Haaretz, stop censoring pro-Israeli posts. Segev the post-Zionist 17:23  |  Maya 26/12/07   71.   Apologies needed 17:24  |  Frank 26/12/07   72.   Margie #9 17:29  |  Guido 26/12/07   73.   ISRAEL IS NOT responsible FOR PALESTINIANS 17:31  |  Atilla Karagözoğlu 26/12/07   74.   Fake ("Genuine") Tosefta Alert 17:31  |  Tosefta 26/12/07   75.   And so too the Egyptians 17:32  |  FOX 26/12/07   76.   Mutual apologies should be made in context of comprehensive Peace 17:32  |  Genuine Tosefta 26/12/07   77.   Haaretz, a voice of reason and accuracy 17:36  |  Steve 26/12/07   78.   Sullivan projecting again oh my! #38 17:38  |  FOX 26/12/07   79.   Genuine Tosefta 17:40  |  Atilla Karagözoğlu 26/12/07   80.   nice article.... 17:41  |  Teresa-Maria (Tess) 26/12/07   81.   All or nothing people 17:45  |  Boris 26/12/07   82.   #50, Kris the Austrian, Anti Jewish hate is still widespread in.. 17:47  |  Max Zinger,P.Chimist 26/12/07   83.   Peres once said that 17:51  |  Boris 26/12/07   84.   All apologies are meaningless before Peace is achieved 17:56  |  Genuine Tosefta 26/12/07   85.   So Atlas Liman what about returning to your Greek ancestry? 17:58  |  Genuine Tosefta 26/12/07   86.   Ghastly Impostor #74, she should get a life and stop hating Arabs 18:02  |  Genuine Tosefta 26/12/07   87.   It sounds innocuous to write that "Most Israelis still find it 18:02  |  Rebekah S 26/12/07   88.   Atlas Liman, Kurds in Turkey want independence,do you allow them? 18:04  |  Genuine Tosefta 26/12/07   89.   # 65 Joe, I had a roommate,an Israeli Morocan who moved to .... 18:09  |  Max Zinger,P.Chimist 26/12/07   90.   Atlas Liman,what about independence for West half Turkey to Greek 18:09  |  Genuine Tosefta 26/12/07   91.   Turkey will not apologize for 1.5 million Armenian genocide 18:11  |  Genuine Tosefta 26/12/07   92.   do Arab ever apologies? 18:12  |  Noam 26/12/07   93.   What palestinian tragedy? No such nation ever existed? 18:20  |  Yehuda Maccabbee 26/12/07   94.   PLEASE !!! Read this post! 18:03  |  Ajay 26/12/07   95.   Who are "we"? 18:28  |  Gene 26/12/07   96.   LETS QUESTINION OUR CHARACTERS 18:31  |  Atilla Karagözoğlu 26/12/07   97.   MOSHE...JESUS...MUHAMMED ! 18:37  |  Atilla Karagözoğlu 26/12/07   98.   Segev wants Israel to apologise for not being exterminated 18:39  |  by the Arabs in 48 26/12/07   99.   # 87 To Rebekah S. 18:39  |  Max Zinger,P.Chimist 26/12/07   100.   Maybe Russians should apologise for German tragedy in 1945? 18:42  |  Tom Segev 26/12/07   101.   what is important than TO LEAVE A GOOD NAME BEHIND ? 18:43  |  Atilla Karagözoğlu 26/12/07   102.   #95 Gene 18:44  |  Sarah 26/12/07   103.   Tragedy is that Arabs are illiterate, polygamous honor killers 18:46  |  With Lots of OIL$$$$ 26/12/07   104.   #94 Ajay Please read this psot. 18:47  |  tbora 26/12/07   105.   Answer Atlas Liman, indpendence for Greeks and Kurds from Turkey! 18:49  |  Genuine Tosefta 26/12/07   106.   Segev is a brilliant thinker: I endorse him completely 19:01  |  Neville Chamberlain 26/12/07   107.   HOW ABOUT THE REAL TRUTH about the 19:01  |  Barry 26/12/07   108.   Why is haaretz giving a platform to an Osloist & Itnatkutist? 19:01  |  Dudu 26/12/07   109.   # 94 Ajay, The Islamic power is temporary on historical scale... 19:02  |  Max Zinger,P.Chimist 26/12/07   110.   Past possibilities (Rebekah S #87) 19:03  |  Tosefta 26/12/07   111.   Muslims from now Pakistan killed 80 million Hindus in the history 19:05  |  Genuine Tosefta 26/12/07   112.   Tom Segev and Palestinian refugees 19:22  |  David Gershon 26/12/07   113.   A nebeche for poor Tom 19:23  |  k 26/12/07   114.   # 72 Guido, "Israelis 19:38  |  Max Zinger,P.Chimist 26/12/07   115.   #111 Genuine Tosefta 19:40  |  tbora 26/12/07   116.   #89 Max Zinger the chimist.. 19:51  |  Joe 26/12/07   117.   Muslims killed 80 million Hindus in India, do not go around bush 19:55  |  Genuine Tosefta 26/12/07   118.   #75, FOX 19:56  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 26/12/07   119.   Truths about Muslims massacring the world are very unpleasant 19:59  |  Genuine Tosefta 26/12/07   120.   Apologies accepted... 20:00  |  Ibrahim 26/12/07   121.   SEGEV 20:01  |  JOJO 26/12/07   122.   To 15, 39 & 65: Joe, Unfair article 20:01  |  Altalena 26/12/07   123.   Muslims never apologize for all the massacres they have committed 20:01  |  Genuine Tosefta 26/12/07   124.   Pakistan killed oveer one million Bangalis 20:08  |  FOX 26/12/07   125.   #110, Tosefta 20:15  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 26/12/07   126.   #89 Max Zinger the chimist.. 20:24  |  Joe 26/12/07   127.   Ibrahim, I would like to accept your apologies 20:24  |  Genuine Tosefta 26/12/07   128.   "Tosefta" is a Syrian who would love to live in Tveria 20:25  |  avigdor 26/12/07   129.   Don`t hide guerrillas in your midst and you won`t be mixed up 20:28  |  Efox 26/12/07   130.   FOX, one million dead here, one million there, who really counts? 20:30  |  Genuine Tosefta 26/12/07   131.   re: Genuine Tosefta 20:30  |  Efox 26/12/07   132.   Apologies are important to move forward & remind Jews that we 20:32  |  Smadar 26/12/07   133.   Ibrahim... 20:34  |  Teresa-Maria (Tess) 26/12/07   134.   Must be a bird`s brain (Bird from Outerspace #125) 20:45  |  Tosefta 26/12/07   135.   Efox, I agree that Israel and India have a common just cause here 20:46  |  Genuine Tosefta 26/12/07   136.   Smadar, any apology by Israel only is detrimental to Peace 20:56  |  Genuine Tosefta 26/12/07   137.   Deny, deny, deny No. 1 20:59  |  Marlene N. 26/12/07   138.   What good does an apology serve anyway? 21:04  |  Marlene N. 26/12/07   139.   Tragedy 21:04  |  Choni Davidowitz 26/12/07   140.   Segev`s Anti-Zionist Bile 21:08  |  Tod Zuckerman 26/12/07   141.   I do not believe that anymore Ibrahim 21:11  |  Marlene N. 26/12/07   142.   # 122 Altalena - misguided Zionist 21:13  |  Joe 26/12/07   143.   Maybe Germany should not have apologized 21:16  |  Marlene N. 26/12/07   144.   Marlene Nawasri, you deny deny deny 21:18  |  Jake 26/12/07   145.   Disingenuous Tosefta 21:19  |  Ibrahim 26/12/07   146.   Tess, Kul Sene wa inti salmeen!!! 21:21  |  Ibrahim 26/12/07   147.   IDF soldiers have killed thousands of innocent Palestinians, the 21:21  |  Silvienne 26/12/07   148.   no apology necessary they were in our land, and were killing us 21:25  |  ralph 26/12/07   149.   Ibrahim - A shame that you can`t speak for a wider constituency 21:29  |  Stephen Connor 26/12/07   150.   Clickfool, what a DUMB comment 21:31  |  Jake 26/12/07   151.   Cipora - Regarding Segev and the Work of Repairing 21:33  |  Dorothy 26/12/07   152.   Let Arabs acknowledge Grand Mufti as a Holocaust perpetrator 21:36  |  Jake 26/12/07   153.   Marlene`s True Thoughts 21:38  |  Albert Seligman 26/12/07   154.   # 126 Joe,You read David Irving,Holocaust denier,like Abbas,PhD 21:39  |  Max Zinger,P.Chimist 26/12/07   155.   To Sarah 21:40  |  Gene 26/12/07   156.   CLICKFOOL AND JESUS 21:47  |  Brant 26/12/07   157.   Clickfool,everything you say is a travesty of the truth 21:48  |  Absolute Sweden 26/12/07   158.   Ibrahim 21:49  |  Albert Seligman 26/12/07   159.   Dorothy it`s harmful to both Arabs&Jews if only Israel apologizes 21:49  |  Genuine Tosefta 26/12/07   160.   Too Bad You Didn`t Publish My Post 21:51  |  Yosemite 26/12/07   161.   margie in Tell aviv 21:54  |  emad matahin 26/12/07   162.   Same as Arabs , So Is Tom Segev Injustice , 21:55  |  Joseph E . 26/12/07   163.   # 132 Smadar, Compromise and 2 state solution for both people.... 22:05  |  Max Zinger,P.Chimist 26/12/07   164.   A. Palesine NEVER EXISTED 22:13  |  Dr David I. Gross 26/12/07   165.   Kafr Qasem. and other such tragedies 22:19  |  Dr David I. Gross 26/12/07   166.   The Problem With The Left 22:26  |  Yosemite 26/12/07   167.   #140 Jake and co perpetrators 22:32  |  Labhras 26/12/07   168.   "Post-Palestinianism" 22:32  |  Scharker Yid 26/12/07   169.   Root Causes and Responsibility- especially to Cipora 22:33  |  Dorothy 26/12/07   170.   In 1948 , before war started , 22:35  |  Joseph E . 26/12/07   171.   Dr David Gross 22:41  |  Phil Welsher 26/12/07   172.   Israel Is A Jewish Mental Institution 22:41  |  J. Abramoff 26/12/07   173.   Arab leaders enticed Arabs of Israel to leave the country 22:46  |  Joseph E . 26/12/07   174.   #6 racist 22:47  |  Henryk 26/12/07   175.   Another Strategy 22:49  |  Yosemite 26/12/07   176.   #9 Reciprocity 22:52  |  Henryk 26/12/07   177.   Can Peres please appologize for Oslo ? 22:52  |  smarter then peres 26/12/07   178.   #15 statistical reciprocity 22:56  |  Henryk 26/12/07   179.   # 135 Genuine Tosefta, China already joined in to curb Moslems 23:08  |  Max Zinger P.Chim. 26/12/07   180.   J. Abramoff #151 Pointers from the asylum 23:15  |  FOX 26/12/07   181.   #72 Normal life ? 23:27  |  Henryk 26/12/07   182.   # 151 I got lonsome for Click..,Dutch,Natallie epitets on Israel 23:29  |  Max Zinger,P.Chimist 26/12/07   183.   #151 Mystery message - possibly from a mental institution 23:48  |  Henryk 26/12/07   184.   #155 AMEN !!!! :-) 23:58  |  Henryk 26/12/07   185.   To 146, 148, 150. Labhras, Dorothy: We do not live alone 23:59  |  Altalena 26/12/07   186.   #7 Clickfool 00:10  |  leo 27/12/07   187.   Phil Welsher 00:13  |  Dr David I. Gross 27/12/07   188.   irish rubbernecker champions the mufti 00:20  |  peter 27/12/07   189.   Legend of the Mufti as a Holocaust "perpetrator" (Jake #140) 00:21  |  Tosefta 27/12/07   190.   Labhras` White Elephant, #146 00:40  |  Jake 27/12/07   191.   DAVID GROSS 00:45  |  Phil Welsher 27/12/07   192.   Apology in Kafr Qasem 00:45  |  Alex Bruner 27/12/07   193.   #158 Altalena and defending yourself 00:56  |  Labhras 27/12/07   194.   Boo Hoo 00:59  |  Mark Hamil 27/12/07   195.   Apologise for what? 01:26  |  loe 27/12/07   196.   Hey Mr.Segev..WHY DON`T YOU BEND AND KISS THEIR ARSE AS WELL... 01:27  |  Kathy 27/12/07   197.   # 153 smarter than peres..and # 149 Joseph E..I`LL TELL YOU WHAT. 01:32  |  Kathy 27/12/07   198.   Legend of the Mufti as a Holocaust "perpetrator" (Jake #140) 01:38  |  Tosefta 27/12/07   199.   ahh yes its just that Palestinian land issue bull crapola 01:43  |  Sandman 27/12/07   200.   #148, Dorothy 01:49  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 27/12/07   201.   # 158 Altalena..Labhras,Dorothy,and ALL THE DELUDED ONES.READMINE 01:53  |  Kathy 27/12/07   202.   # 162 Alex Bruner...NO,NO,NO WHAT APOLOGIES,AND WHAT THE BLAZEFOR 02:05  |  Kathy 27/12/07   203.   What A Cheap Shot 02:08  |  Jeff Northridge 27/12/07   204.   #143 Gross exaggeration? 02:11  |  Boycott 27/12/07   205.   KATHY 02:19  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 27/12/07   206.   Tossi Fetta #173 02:25  |  GABE! 27/12/07   207.   # 180 Jeff Northridege..WELL SAID,BUT I CANNOT BEAR HYPOCRISY.. 02:27  |  Kathy 27/12/07   208.   # 177 Cipora J.K re:THAT DOROTHY AT IT AGAIN(I APOLOGIZE ONLY ... 02:33  |  Kathy 27/12/07   209.   #167 Jake yor answer is inpost 166. 02:36  |  Lanhras 27/12/07   210.   #37 David Teich, I have news for you.... 02:56  |  dutch 27/12/07   211.   #136 Genuine Tosefta 02:58  |  Smadar 27/12/07   212.   JEFF Northridge.Happy new Year 03:01  |  PETER SM 27/12/07   213.   Max Zinger #144 03:12  |  Smadar 27/12/07   214.   Fox, The trouble with your government 03:13  |  Dutch 27/12/07   215.   TOSEFTA Legends for you.Some Wikkipedia for you to"debunk" 03:17  |  PETER SM 27/12/07   216.   more tears for the paleos 03:25  |  Mark Katzman 27/12/07   217.   Any apology for Pal leader THE MUFTI? He aided,inspired Holocaust 03:26  |  Rob 27/12/07   218.   Dorothy, the Arab #150 03:27  |  GABE1 27/12/07   219.   #145 David Gross ,It doesn`t matter if Palestine didn`t exist... 03:27  |  Dutch 27/12/07   220.   180Jeff Northridge: Cheap Shot by Segev indeed 03:29  |  Rob 27/12/07   221.   182Dutch admits she wants Israel/Jews to all die. 03:35  |  Rob 27/12/07   222.   # 2 Sandra Chitayat 03:36  |  Jacque 27/12/07   223.   From Dirk to Joe 03:42  |  Oscar 27/12/07   224.   It`s Time for the UN to Acknowledge it`s Responsibility 03:51  |  MIKE 27/12/07   225.   # 164 Dr.David I.Gross..IT IS A WASTE OF BREATH TELLING IGNORANTS 03:53  |  Kathy 27/12/07   226.   15, 16 &17 ; Dav, What are you talking about? 04:14  |  Doc Holliday 27/12/07   227.   #173, Hey Kathy/Kath, must you keep posting in caps? 04:16  |  Silvienne 27/12/07   228.   Does the Mufti belong in the Yad Vashem Museum in Jerusalem, IL ? 04:40  |  avigdor 27/12/07   229.   The funny thing is... 04:42  |  Ofer Maimon 27/12/07   230.   To Yaakov Sullivan regarding Hebron 04:44  |  Marlene N. 27/12/07   231.   #184 Peter SM re husayni 04:52  |  Labhras 27/12/07   232.   To 181 on who inspired what 04:54  |  Marlene N. 27/12/07   233.   ## 183 Smadar, So You are a Canuck, EH ! 04:55  |  Max the Horoscope 27/12/07   234.   #177 Cipora /The way of the Bully (2) 05:02  |  Dorothy 27/12/07   235.   #182 Dutch 05:03  |  leo 27/12/07   236.   Kathy # 173 05:08  |  Tom 27/12/07   237.   #78 Fox, Your blindess increases by the day 05:09  |  dutch 27/12/07   238.   Kathy, to Dr. Gross 05:10  |  Jarred 27/12/07   239.   `tell me something Ha`aretz 05:14  |  Marlene N. 27/12/07   240.   Arab Palestinian leadership`s doc involvement in the Holocaust 05:16  |  avigdor 27/12/07   241.   Kathy, The real ignorant people are those who blame the victims 05:21  |  dutch 27/12/07   242.   #164 Kathy 05:24  |  Labhras 27/12/07   243.   re: Genuine Tosefta 05:27  |  Efox 27/12/07   244.   re: Smadar 05:32  |  Efox 27/12/07   245.   the ideology on the Arab palestinian side is that of the Mufti 05:47  |  avigdor 27/12/07   246.   Dorothy the Arab #150 05:52  |  GABE1 27/12/07   247.   Tossi Fetta #175 05:54  |  GABE1 27/12/07   248.   Joe and rejectionism 06:36  |  Truth 27/12/07   249.   Future holocaust 06:37  |  Shekel 27/12/07   250.   180Jeff Northridge: Cheap Shot by Segev indeed but not surprising 06:40  |  raoul 27/12/07   251.   is Tosefta from Tveria a "legend" also ? 06:43  |  avigdor 27/12/07   252.   A mistake during war conditions is unintentional 06:51  |  Marwan مروان خوري 27/12/07   253.   How about apologizing for years of terror against Israel 06:52  |  Marwan مروان خوري 27/12/07   254.   Tom Seguev Is an Ostriche 06:54  |  Joseph E . 27/12/07   255.   Tom Segev, the Arabs killed your father in 1948 06:59  |  avigdor 27/12/07   256.   I will ask one more time 07:01  |  Gene 27/12/07   257.   On the complicity of Grand Mufti with Holocaust and the Nazis 07:12  |  Marwan مروان خوري 27/12/07   258.   On the complicity of Grand Mufti with Holocaust and the Nazis 2 07:14  |  Marwan مروان خوري 27/12/07   259.   On the complicity of Grand Mufti with Holocaust and the Nazis 3 07:17  |  Marwan مروان خوري 27/12/07   260.   war crimes 07:17  |  zichron 27/12/07   261.   The Mufti? You can do better than that.... 07:22  |  Joe 27/12/07   262.   Kathy 07:25  |  Joseph E . 27/12/07   263.   Segev is wrong 07:55  |  Jacob 27/12/07   264.   the Mufti -) Arafat -) Holocaust denier Abbas (Abu Mazen)- next ? 08:49  |  avigdor 27/12/07   265.   Why shouldn`t we apologize? 08:58  |  MarkC 27/12/07   266.   Tom Segev: no palestinian Arab had apologized to King Hussein 09:06  |  avigdor 27/12/07   267.   To Dutch 220 on blaming the victims 09:08  |  Marlene N. 27/12/07   268.   Segev does not present 1950`s statistics of fedayyin 09:09  |  avigdor 27/12/07   269.   The sheer horror of 1948 was another great evil of 20th century 09:11  |  Dutch 27/12/07   270.   To 174. Labhras. Rights of Jews 09:25  |  Altalena 27/12/07   271.   One Palestine, Complete by Tom Segev 09:44  |  David 27/12/07   272.   #213, Dorothy, sent back to sender 09:52  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 27/12/07   273.   for that to EVER happen... 09:57  |  eric 27/12/07   274.   Of course its Israels fault... 10:45  |  kiwi girl 27/12/07   275.   Dutch (Doris) So non objective she... 10:47  |  FOX 27/12/07   276.   #257 Ă,& #259 Marwan..I have All The Documents Plus Photoraph 17:00  |  Kathy 27/12/07   277.   #221, Rob...re: Dutch 18:14  |  Silvienne 27/12/07   278.   "DUTCH", doris 19:56  |  TONY`S TAKE 27/12/07   279.   Marlene N., Joe, Silviene, Dutch ect. 20:38  |  Doc Holliday 27/12/07   280.   # 236 Tom...You Mistake Me..No,No!Truth In its Simple Terms 21:21  |  Kathy 27/12/07   281.   # 238 Jarred." Not Wrong",More Than That Am Not Oblivious.. 21:28  |  Kathy 27/12/07   282.   #279, Doc Holliday... 22:19  |  Silvienne 27/12/07   283.   #225, Kathy aka KATH to Dr. David Gross.... 22:27  |  Silvienne 27/12/07   284.   Israel, Jews, Feel No Shame, Do no Apologize, You are Just! 23:17  |  Mark Hamil 27/12/07   285.   #1 Joe is Right 23:20  |  Mark Hamil 27/12/07   286.   # 284 Mark Hamil..Feel No Shame, Do no Apologize, You are Just! 01:53  |  Kathy 28/12/07   287.   # 283 Silvienne..Return to Sender 01:58  |  Kathy 28/12/07   288.   # 279 Doc Holliday..Marlene N., Joe, Silviene, Dutch ect. 02:06  |  Kathy 28/12/07   289.   # 265 MarkC..APOLOGIES FOR WHAT?YOU SOUND LIKE A PIPSQUEAK! 02:42  |  Kathy 28/12/07   290.   282, Silviene, & 288, Kathy 03:33  |  Doc Holliday 28/12/07   291.   #233 Max 05:10  |  Smadar 28/12/07   292.   Say Cipora at #205 10:11  |  ballistic 28/12/07   293.   #116 Joe---excellent post, excellent! 10:13  |  ballistic 28/12/07   294.   #148 Say Ralph 10:18  |  ballistic 28/12/07   295.   #152 Say Jake 10:21  |  ballistic 28/12/07   296.   Hey there Silvienne 10:35  |  ballistic 28/12/07   297.   #40 Say Steven 10:39  |  ballistic 28/12/07   298.   #272 Say Cipora; Dorothy didn`t post #213 10:45  |  ballistic 28/12/07   299.   #274 Lay it out for them plainly Kiwi Girl! 10:47  |  ballistic 28/12/07   300.   41: I keep suggesting it, Yaakov 15:33  |  David Teich 28/12/07   301.   161: Emad continues the lie 15:37  |  David Teich 28/12/07   302.   Silvienne, always in denial 15:43  |  David Teich 28/12/07   303.   Ballistics` usually semantically nil spams continue 15:51  |  David Teich 28/12/07   304.   #287, Kathy..right back atchaya 16:28  |  Silvienne 28/12/07   305.   # 278 TONY`S TAKE..DUTCH", doris 17:03  |  Kathy 28/12/07   306.   Dorothy 17:31  |  American in NY 28/12/07   307.   #300..FLUSH IT DOWN THE TOILET..UNREAD 18:34  |  Kathy 28/12/07   308.   # 278 TONY`S TAKE..re:"DUTCH", doris..OH TONNY!.(SECOND TRY). 20:03  |  Kathy 28/12/07   309.   Jake # 152 23:29  |  American in NY 28/12/07   310.   CJK # 118 civil discourtesy and other trivia 23:41  |  American in NY 28/12/07   311.   Silvienne #227 the problem is with her eyesight 00:43  |  American in NY 29/12/07   312.   Silvienne and Ignorant in NY, peas in a pod 14:56  |  David Teich 30/12/07   313.   David Teich`s dream #300 02:25  |  zeev 01/01/08   314.   313: Poor zeev the dhimmi (2nd try) 16:46  |  David Teich 07/01/08

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