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Israel, U.S. to meet to discuss differing assessments on Iran
By Amir Oren, Haaretz Correspondent
Tags: U.S., Iran, nuclear program 

Israeli and American officials involved in the intelligence analysis of Iran's nuclear efforts will meet soon to discuss the two countries' differing assessments of Iran's rate of progress toward achieving nuclear weapons.

Israel, which was surprised by the National Intelligence Assessment on Iran released last week, initiated the meeting. Defense Minister Ehud Barak approved the idea of a meeting, reportedly preferring lower-level talks that would avoid involving diplomatic positions or organizational responsibility for the meaning or interpretation of the data.


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efense establishment sources said this week that Israel accepted 90 to 95 percent of the intelligence material on which the American assessment was based, including the assertion that Iran stopped the development of nuclear weapons in 2003 but was continuing uranium enrichment and the development of long-range weapons.

Among the Israeli participants in the talks will be experts at the level of department heads in the Intelligence Branch of the Israel Defense Forces, the Mossad, the Air Force and the Atomic Energy Commission, mostly at the level of colonel or their civilian counterpart.

The U.S. intelligence community will be represented by representatives from the CIA, Pentagon intelligence agencies, the Department of Energy and the National Intelligence Council operating alongside the Director of National Intelligence. The main framers of the report were Leslie Ireland, issue manager on Iran in the National Intelligence Council and her colleague, Vann Van Diepen, issue manager for weapons of mass destruction.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said at a meeting this week with the editors of USA Today, a transcript of which was distributed by her office, that President George W. Bush had decided to release an unclassified version of the intelligence report to stress that along with stopping the development of nuclear weapons four years ago, Iran continues to enrich nuclear material for military purposes and to obtain missiles.

Rice said that if the Iranians "embraced" the whole intelligence report, the U.S. would want to know what program was stopped in 2003, how far it went and what the significance of was of stopping it, "given that weaponization is only one element of a weapons program."

Rice confirmed repeatedly that the U.S. demanded that Iran stop enrichment of uranium as a precondition to negotiations. "The situation we would not want to get into is where there are endless negotiations while Iran perfects the enrichment and reprocessing capability because once you've learned to do it - it's an engineering problem, " she said.

The Washington Post quoted last Saturday from statements made two years ago by former Iranian president Hashemi Rafsanjani to American experts then visiting Teheran. "Look, as long as we can enrich uranium and master the fuel cycle, we don't need anything else. Our neighbors will be able to draw the proper conclusions," he told his guests. The statement was also quoted by former American peace emissary Dennis Ross in the New Republic weekly.

Until the release of the American report, the defense establishment believed Israel might find itself involved in a military conflict with Iran in the coming year if Bush decided to act against Tehran and Iran responded against Israeli targets as well.

In the wake of this assumption, the extension of Air Force commander Major General Elyezer Shkedy's command, until April 2008, is under consideration. A number of additional reshuffles of Air Force brass depend on whether Shkedy remains in his post.

Chief of Staff Gabi Ashskenazi recently interviewed three candidates for Shkedy's job: the chief of planning on the General Staff, Major General Ido Nechushtan; Brigadier General Amir Ehsel, head of the Air Force headquarters and head of the IAF's Air Directorate, Brigadier General Yohanan Locker.



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      2.   More American than the Americans? 03:42  |  jjvanka 14/12/07
      3.   Swallow our "intelligence" or we don`t fund you. 05:09  |  Fortuna Benmayor 14/12/07
      4.   Whatever ... 05:29  |  Analyst 14/12/07
      5.   Whatever ... 05:29  |  Analyst 14/12/07
      6.   But who isn`t accepting 05:55  |  Joshua 14/12/07
      7.   confused 07:08  |  moshe 14/12/07
      8.   israel HAS to accept 90-95% of it... 07:58  |  eric 14/12/07
      9.   #8 - Clarification for Eric... 08:58  |  JES 14/12/07
      10.   Second Holocaust coming 09:15  |  George 14/12/07
      11.   Uranium enrichment and long-range weapons 09:15  |  Clickfool 14/12/07
      12.   For George # 10 09:34  |  Clickfool 14/12/07
      13.   Big Daddy 09:36  |  luke 14/12/07
      14.   Poor little troll Clickfool 10:27  |  Stan 14/12/07
      15.   you been NOT CRYING LATELY ! 10:35  |  Atilla Karagözoğlu 14/12/07
      16.   Making new military plans really seems to have become..... 10:40  |  Swiss (Dino) 14/12/07
      17.   ... without YOU ! 10:43  |  Atilla Karagözoğlu 14/12/07
      18.   difference between the two reports: many thousands of miles 10:47  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 14/12/07
      19.   For Stan in Hooverville # 14 11:03  |  Clickfool 14/12/07
      20.   come on LOVE BIRDS 11:14  |  ... 14/12/07
      21.   Mr. swiss & brain power 11:29  |  Stan 14/12/07
      22.   Israel attack on Iran With or without US 11:30  |  Mickey 14/12/07
      23.   This article is intentionally deceptive 11:34  |  Rowan Berkeley 14/12/07
      24.   Israel and Us do not differ, it is just a show 11:39  |  mehmet 14/12/07
      25.   For Mickey # 22 11:59  |  Clickfool 14/12/07
      26.   Clickfool re Stan 12:07  |  The Judge 14/12/07
      27.   # 21 Stan, bring it up !!! 12:13  |  Swiss (Dino) 14/12/07
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      29.   Israel is stuffed Part 1 12:41  |  Chris Linthwaite 14/12/07
      30.   Swiss` top idea 12:42  |  Stan 14/12/07
      31.   Israel is stuffed Part 2 12:46  |  Chris Linthwaite 14/12/07
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      39.   Where did Clickfool go? 13:11  |  The Judge 14/12/07
      40.   # 30 Stan 13:19  |  Swiss (Dino) 14/12/07
      41.   Drag US to Another War 13:37  |  Darwish 14/12/07
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      43.   What America could do 14:00  |  Alicia 14/12/07
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      45.   difference between the two reports: `konseptsia` 14:33  |  Hubal 14/12/07
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      49.   #34 Dr L Brnd 15:49  |  Paul Wood 14/12/07
      50.   #34 Stan 15:51  |  Chris Linthwaite 14/12/07
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      67.   Alicia #43 17:55  |  Neal 14/12/07
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      85.   Dorothy. 19:19  |  Hubal 14/12/07
      86.   #70, Kathy 19:21  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 14/12/07
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      91.   Mark T. #78 Samson option. 19:46  |  Hubal 14/12/07
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      93.   Mark T 19:55  |  Cool B 14/12/07
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      95.   # 74 Oh Mark T...How Right You Are.I Will Never Forget Reading . 19:57  |  Kathy 14/12/07
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      97.   # 69 Cool B.. 20:05  |  Kathy 14/12/07
      98.   For Mark T, on Dimona # 62 20:06  |  Clickfool 14/12/07
      99.   The other question, Mark # 62 20:08  |  Clickfool 14/12/07
      100.   # 86 Cipora J.K I UNDERSTAND,ONLY TOO WELL.. 20:16  |  Kathy 14/12/07
      101.   The price of peace and the price of oil. 20:19  |  a wandering Jew 14/12/07
      102.   # 53 DINO - my mild mannered anti-Semitic friend 20:19  |  17 14/12/07
      103.   #66 ballistic should remember Nevada is also part of the US 20:32  |  Dr. L. Brnd 14/12/07
      104.   Kathy is a hoot! 20:43  |  Jeremiah 14/12/07
      105.   A QUICK RESPONSE TO TOSEFTA... 20:45  |  Kathy 14/12/07
      106.   # 85 Hubal to Dorothy 20:56  |  Kathy 14/12/07
      107.   #87 17 21:11  |  ballistic 14/12/07
      108.   #74 Hi Mark T 21:21  |  ballistic 14/12/07
      109.   For Hubal, on Israeli nuclear sabre rattling # 91 21:30  |  Clickfool 14/12/07
      110.   #81 There goes Cipora, the pot calling the kettle black 21:34  |  ballistic 14/12/07
      111.   Stop Obsessing 21:41  |  Raad 14/12/07
      112.   # 81 Cipora J.K re:Dorothy.If I may Interject here(Third Try) Out 22:23  |  Kathy 14/12/07
      113.   The future of an illusion 22:24  |  Tosefta 14/12/07
      114.   #94 no change yellow streak but kathy is 100% correc 22:30  |  victor hardman 14/12/07
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      116.   # 89 JUST BUTT OUT DOROTHY.IS NOT ONE OF YOUR ACOLYLITES... 23:12  |  Kathy 14/12/07
      117.   Raad (which means trembling in Hebrew) 23:20  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 14/12/07
      118.   # 1101 Ballistic - thank you for response - it is very 23:31  |  17 14/12/07
      119.   #59 Cipora, Reality and Carts Before Horses 23:33  |  Dorothy 14/12/07
      120.   Cipora- correction, Israel`s estimated nuclear warheads 23:36  |  Dorothy 14/12/07
      121.   USA + Israel: 2 + 2 = 5 Bomb Iran 00:22  |  POP 15/12/07
      122.   # 107 - Margie in Tel Aviv 00:26  |  Raad 15/12/07
      123.   # 96 Tosefta LOOK HERE I SENT YOU ONE.NOT OUT? 00:38  |  Kathy 15/12/07
      124.   # 106 Victor Hardman..Hey,Are You Me?STUPID FOOL HE IS RUNNING 00:43  |  Kathy 15/12/07
      125.   #107 No Paul Harris 00:51  |  ballistic 15/12/07
      126.   #108 Well, here is Kath telling somebody to butt out! 00:57  |  ballistic 15/12/07
      127.   Why is the White House only fighting by proxy? 00:58  |  Mark Lincoln 15/12/07
      128.   That was my position Tosefta 01:02  |  Mark Lincoln 15/12/07
      129.   Yes, 17, we can discuss it later 01:03  |  ballistic 15/12/07
      130.   #66 ballistic 01:03  |  Daybreak 15/12/07
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      132.   # 115 Raed...SO, YOU ARE AN IRANIAN.IN EXILE? 01:32  |  Kathy 15/12/07
      133.   America cannot trust Israeli intelligence estimates 01:33  |  American in NY 15/12/07
      134.   # 106 Zzzzzzz Zzzzzzzz 01:35  |  HAPPY UP HERE 15/12/07
      135.   #78 Mark T 01:59  |  ballistic 15/12/07
      136.   120 RETURNED TO SENDER UNREAD.. 02:05  |  Kathy 15/12/07
      137.   #66 Say Daybreak 02:09  |  ballistic 15/12/07
      138.   Kathy 90 do you know any history? LOL 02:18  |  Michael 15/12/07
      139.   #113, Dorothy 02:19  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 15/12/07
      140.   #114, Dorothy 02:23  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 15/12/07
      141.   Another joke! 02:40  |  Maureen Ann 15/12/07
      142.   Both are rightfully wrong 02:51  |  Sal 15/12/07
      143.   American in NY - intelligence estimates 03:03  |  Mark Lincoln 15/12/07
      144.   #130 Ballistic 03:11  |  Daybreak 15/12/07
      145.   # 131 michael..i have my history quite correct... 03:18  |  Kathy 15/12/07
      146.   The evidence (Mark Lincoln #122) 03:18  |  Tosefta 15/12/07
      147.   # 109 Raad ..My desr Raad the Obsession does not come from us.... 03:33  |  Kathy 15/12/07
      148.   # 104 Jeremiah...No You Are A HOOT.CAN YOU READ? 04:08  |  Kathy 15/12/07
      149.   elements of Iran`s nuclear program 04:12  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 15/12/07
      150.   War with Iran 04:26  |  Jim 15/12/07
      151.   Tosefta - the important criteria 04:47  |  Mark Lincoln 15/12/07
      152.   Cipora - and so what?" 04:53  |  Mark Lincoln 15/12/07
      153.   Shitpora Juliana Kohn 04:59  |  Mark Lincoln 15/12/07
      154.   The droolign idiot psychopath 05:05  |  Mark Lincoln 15/12/07
      155.   Dororthy 05:42  |  Danite 15/12/07
      156.   Jim--military establishment 05:42  |  Mark T 15/12/07
      157.   Fart Lincoln 05:45  |  Danite 15/12/07
      158.   Mark, take your meds 05:46  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 15/12/07
      159.   You missed the nicest gem by Cipora (Mark Lincoln #153) 06:04  |  Tosefta 15/12/07
      160.   126 buldog...RETURN TO SENDER...UNREAD 06:12  |  Kathy 15/12/07
      161.   #150, Jim 06:12  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 15/12/07
      162.   #155, Danite 06:16  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 15/12/07
      163.   I hope they do it in private 06:27  |  Nechama 15/12/07
      164.   # 154 Mark Lincoln..THE WHOLE WORLD IS INDANGER WHO GIVES A SHIT? 06:49  |  Kathy 15/12/07
      165.   #159, Tosefta 07:42  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 15/12/07
      166.   #163 Nechama 08:18  |  Rowan Berkeley 15/12/07
      167.   #125 the darth vader of henderson is going nuts 08:28  |  victor hardman 15/12/07
      168.   IRAQ WMD DIDNT NEED FURHER DISCUSSIONS 08:56  |  indrajaya 15/12/07
      169.   #164, Kathy 09:07  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 15/12/07
      170.   EU is planning further sanctions against Iran 09:36  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 15/12/07
      171.   Interesting fact for Margie about "Raad" # 117 09:48  |  Clickfool 15/12/07
      172.   For hand-wringing Cipora # 149 09:51  |  Clickfool 15/12/07
      173.   Mark Lincoln 10:39  |  Pompous Blowhard 15/12/07
      174.   Swiss (Dino) How nice (#16) 10:53  |  Gil 15/12/07
      175.   Swiss (Dino) How nice (#16) 11:00  |  Gil 15/12/07
      176.   Israel should attack Iran, TODAY 11:01  |  spyguy 15/12/07
      177.   #172, clickfool, in answer to your shortest post 11:05  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 15/12/07
      178.   Mark Lincoln is Tosefta: Tosefta is Mark Lincoln 11:10  |  Dark Stranger 15/12/07
      179.   For Victor Paul Harris Hardman, now known as Kathy # 164 11:11  |  Clickfool 15/12/07
      180.   Tosefta talking to Mark Lincoln is talking to himself 11:11  |  watchbird 15/12/07
      181.   Mark Lincoln talking to Tosefta is talking to himself 11:12  |  I see you 15/12/07
      182.   Clickfool 11:14  |  Clive 15/12/07
      183.   Swiss (Dino) How nice (#16) 11:16  |  Gil 15/12/07
      184.   Persian shia`s with Nukes 11:35  |  Nasib 15/12/07
      185.   #179 boris yellow streak clickfool has gone over the edge 12:17  |  victor hardman 15/12/07
      186.   For Clive # 182 12:19  |  Clickfool 15/12/07
      187.   # 183 Gil "Does size matter that much...??" 12:44  |  Swiss (Dino) 15/12/07
      188.   Differencs that saved the region.... 12:56  |  Ali 15/12/07
      189.   Silly comments Kathy 145 13:43  |  Michael 15/12/07
      190.   Iran 13:57  |  Hilda 15/12/07
      191.   Different assessments.Israel attack now! : U.S. attack next year! 14:48  |  Toronto`s Finest 15/12/07
      192.   #155 Danite Iran as Loser/The Double Dtandard 15:05  |  Dorothy 15/12/07
      193.   Clickfool----facing threat 15:19  |  Mark T 15/12/07
      194.   #169 Cipora. 1. See the Wood but miss the Trees? 15:25  |  Hubal 15/12/07
      195.   #162 Cipora.2. Beware quack remedies. 15:34  |  Hubal 15/12/07
      196.   Understanding is what you are missing (Bird on a rooftop #165) 15:34  |  Tosefta 15/12/07
      197.   Michael-Iran 15:35  |  Mark T 15/12/07
      198.   Cipora #139/140 The Issue & What`s Good for the Goose 15:35  |  Dorothy 15/12/07
      199.   Michael Iran 2 15:41  |  Mark T 15/12/07
      200.   Ali---war with Iran 15:44  |  Mark T 15/12/07
      201.   Known facts (Mark Lincoln #151) 15:46  |  Tosefta 15/12/07
      202.   For Cipora #177 15:55  |  Clickfool 15/12/07
      203.   I didn`t miss it Tosefta 16:21  |  Mark Lincoln 15/12/07
      204.   # 126 Bullfrog RETURN TO SENDER UNREAD.. 16:32  |  Kathy 15/12/07
      205.   Clickfool 16:34  |  Clive 15/12/07
      206.   # 89 bullfrog..RETURN TO SENDER--UNREAD 16:42  |  JUST ME 15/12/07
      207.   Mark Lincoln 16:43  |  Mike M 15/12/07
      208.   Doing justice - Tosefta 16:46  |  Mark Lincoln 15/12/07
      209.   Dark Stranger #178/180/181 Peurile and worthless 16:49  |  ariadne 15/12/07
      210.   #162 Cipora.2. Beware quack remedies. 16:53  |  Hubal 15/12/07
      211.   Like children clinging to their blankie 16:54  |  Mark Lincoln 15/12/07
      212.   Cipora- The Issue/What Matters (2nd Try) 16:54  |  Dorothy 15/12/07
      213.   Mark Lincoln 17:10  |  Grown Up 15/12/07
      214.   Still going on about this 17:11  |  Chris Linthwaite 15/12/07
      215.   199 Mark T - Interesting analysis but... 17:20  |  Michael 15/12/07
      216.   Clickfool - make up your mind 17:37  |  James 15/12/07
      217.   Swiss (Dino) So what about the 4,950,000 Israelis ??? 17:38  |  Gil 15/12/07
      218.   your right ballestic,iran hasn`t attacked anyone for 2500 years, 17:49  |  terrornator 15/12/07
      219.   damn ballestic,you really think your not the worst one in these 17:54  |  terrornator 15/12/07
      220.   yes ballestic,blacks do have more rights in america than whites, 17:57  |  terrornator 15/12/07
      221.   Fight your own wars 18:04  |  Concerned Citizen 15/12/07
      222.   Dark stranger re Tosefta and Mark Lincoln 18:08  |  Mary P 15/12/07
      223.   Hubal on BBC - "BBC,(Marxist anti-semite TVstation)" - so correct 18:19  |  17 15/12/07
      224.   Swiss (Dino) O Size 18:27  |  Gil 15/12/07
      225.   #220 -17. To be fair... 18:59  |  Hubal 15/12/07
      226.   #220 17 18:59  |  Chris Linthwaite 15/12/07
      227.   #103 Say Dr. Brnd 19:08  |  ballistic 15/12/07
      228.   #136 Golly Kath, why are you returning Cipora`s mail? 19:14  |  ballistic 15/12/07
      229.   #216 Say Terrornator 19:27  |  ballistic 15/12/07
      230.   For James # 213 19:34  |  Clickfool 15/12/07
      231.   Dorothy 19:35  |  Danite 15/12/07
      232.   Ariadne, puerile and worthless but true 19:40  |  Dark Stranger 15/12/07
      233.   # 187 - DINO - Again, you are so wrong, my friend 19:48  |  17 15/12/07
      234.   #217 Say Terrornator 19:49  |  ballistic 15/12/07
      235.   remember Nevada is also part of the US; Israel is not! And also, 20:08  |  American in NY 15/12/07
      236.   Daybreak re: ballistic re: Doktor Brnd 20:22  |  American in NY 15/12/07
      237.   Cipora Hello 20:32  |  Danite 15/12/07
      238.   Dororthy (second try) 20:36  |  Danite 15/12/07
      239.   #222 Chris Linthwaite - I do not - " It is afterall 20:48  |  17 15/12/07
      240.   Fart Lincoln 20:49  |  Danite 15/12/07
      241.   # 138 Mickael An Addendum.. 20:52  |  Kathy 15/12/07
      242.   230 American? in NY....Iran is NOT our enemy??? 21:01  |  The Equalizer 15/12/07
      243.   # 221 Hubal - BBC / Der Gardian 21:05  |  17 15/12/07
      244.   # 230 Danite..NO IT IS NOT THE SAME DOROTHY.. 21:24  |  Kathy 15/12/07
      245.   # 236 BUT ANY..Doctor Brnd is not the only one.. 21:37  |  Kathy 15/12/07
      246.   17 #242 On irrational behavior. 21:39  |  Hubal 15/12/07
      247.   Mike M. 21:51  |  Mark Lincoln 15/12/07
      248.   Danite. #237 You just described quite well 21:53  |  Hubal 15/12/07
      249.   #239 17 21:57  |  Chris Linthwaite 15/12/07
      250.   # 242 The Equalizer..*re:ANY..Iran is Not our enemy??? 21:58  |  Kathy 15/12/07
      251.   # 217 / # 224 Gil 22:04  |  Swiss (Dino) 15/12/07
      252.   # 240 Danite***re:Mark L...WILL NOT BE RUDE IN CASE,BUT READ ON.. 22:07  |  Kathy 15/12/07
      253.   Poor little Danite 22:09  |  Mark Lincoln 15/12/07
      254.   See all the others 22:12  |  Chris Linthwaite 15/12/07
      255.   That annoying image 22:18  |  Mark Lincoln 15/12/07
      256.   Securing Middle East Oil 22:19  |  American Taxpayer 15/12/07
      257.   Cry, Whine, Bleat, Israel - Reposted 22:20  |  chet 15/12/07
      258.   The equalizer # 242 reread what was said and also note what was n 22:24  |  American in NY 15/12/07
      259.   #196, Tosefta the ludicrous 22:34  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 15/12/07
      260.   Danite- Pushing Iran in the direction we don`t want 22:35  |  Dorothy 15/12/07
      261.   Danite- Pushing Iran in the direction we don`t want 22:35  |  Dorothy 15/12/07
      262.   #161 Cipora Julianna Kohn 22:42  |  Jim 15/12/07
      263.   Kathy # 131 & 145 re Michael 22:53  |  American in NY 15/12/07
      264.   Kathy Addendum re #164 23:03  |  American in NY 15/12/07
      265.   #198, Dorothy, the disingenuous 23:03  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 15/12/07
      266.   #174 Gil 23:04  |  Jim 15/12/07
      267.   Danite- the same Dorothy 23:11  |  Dorothy 15/12/07
      268.   Kathy # 145 23:13  |  American in NY 15/12/07
      269.   218. your rig218 Try Parthians, but what`s in a name? 23:25  |  a wandering Jew 15/12/07
      270.   Hubal - Revoling BBC 23:29  |  17 15/12/07
      271.   American in NY keep convincing yourself it won`t happen! 00:01  |  Gil 16/12/07
      272.   Chris Linthwaite 00:09  |  17 16/12/07
      273.   The Equalizer #242 400 hostages? 00:17  |  Hubal 16/12/07
      274.   Danite. #237 You just described quite well 00:18  |  Hubal 16/12/07
      275.   There Is Nothing To Discuss! 00:29  |  Joe B 16/12/07
      276.   Grown Up 00:30  |  Mark Lincoln 16/12/07
      277.   Wisdom for the Birds and Cipora J. Kohn #247 00:55  |  Maers H. Mallow 16/12/07
      278.   Hubal 00:58  |  17 16/12/07
      279.   #275 Joe - Since apparently you voted for Dems 01:00  |  17 16/12/07
      280.   We`ll agree to disagree Kathy 241 01:04  |  Michael 16/12/07
      281.   #260, Dorothy, who is pushing whom 1 01:20  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/12/07
      282.   # 272 "17" I Have Been Wondering about Something..Need Your Help 01:33  |  Kathy 16/12/07
      283.   #260, Dorothy, who is pushing whom, 2 01:37  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/12/07
      284.   #268, ANY 01:41  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/12/07
      285.   israel is a sick sick nation 01:43  |  Joe B 16/12/07
      286.   #268, ANY and the meaning of loyalty 01:54  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/12/07
      287.   Hubal 273..correct...I was thinking over 400 days of captivity.. 01:54  |  The Equalizer 16/12/07
      288.   # 265 Cipora J.K GOSH DID YOU EVER... 01:55  |  Kathy 16/12/07
      289.   # 263 ANY, AND YOUR OTHER ONES TOO. 02:02  |  Kathy 16/12/07
      290.   Parthians - Wandering Jew 02:08  |  Mark Lincoln 16/12/07
      291.   #247, Mark the confabulator 02:14  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/12/07
      292.   Joe - Neither a hawk nor a dove 02:14  |  Mark Lincoln 16/12/07
      293.   Cipora- On being disingenuous 02:18  |  Dorothy 16/12/07
      294.   Securing Middle East Oil - US Taxpayer 02:22  |  Mark Lincoln 16/12/07
      295.   Cut all aid to Israel 02:25  |  betz55 16/12/07
      296.   Hubal 91 02:29  |  Mark T 16/12/07
      297.   Click--Dimona rehashed 02:35  |  Mark T 16/12/07
      298.   #236 American in New York 02:41  |  Daybreak 16/12/07
      299.   # 267 Dorothy..Yes You Are The Same One Indeed..I REMEMBER WELL!! 02:44  |  Kathy 16/12/07
      300.   Raad Iran newspapers 02:46  |  Mark T 16/12/07
      301.   Cipora- On being Juvenile 02:53  |  Dorothy 16/12/07
      302.   Clickfool 02:55  |  James 16/12/07
      303.   Ballistic---reports.. 02:55  |  Mark T 16/12/07
      304.   Cipora to Mark Lincoln #278 03:00  |  Mike M 16/12/07
      305.   Concerned Citizen--belligerence 03:04  |  Mark T 16/12/07
      306.   #287, Kathy 03:04  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/12/07
      307.   # 287 Dorothy THE ONE WHO NEVER CHANGED.HYPOCRITE! 03:12  |  Kathy 16/12/07
      308.   Mark Lincoln misses the point 03:30  |  Grown UP 16/12/07
      309.   # 289 Dorothy...NO YOU SHOULD TURN AROUND INSTEAD 03:33  |  Kathy 16/12/07
      310.   # 304 Mike M I`LL TELL YOU WHAT,MARK KNOWS NOTHING,BAR.. 03:43  |  Kathy 16/12/07
      311.   Cipora Goes Cherry Picking 04:20  |  Dorothy 16/12/07
      312.   response to #285 Joe B 04:59  |  Jim 16/12/07
      313.   Cipora Goes Cherry Picking PT 2 05:02  |  Dorothy 16/12/07
      314.   To Cipora - the technical and historic illiterate 05:43  |  Mark Lincoln 16/12/07
      315.   Cipora - the reality of nuclear weapons design 17:27  |  Mark Lincoln 16/12/07
      316.   "Weaponization"? 06:04  |  Mark Lincoln 16/12/07
      317.   Nukes, nuts and reality 06:11  |  Mark Lincoln 16/12/07
      318.   Actually Mark T 06:17  |  Mark Lincoln 16/12/07
      319.   The Special Relationship is Over 06:17  |  Nancy 16/12/07
      320.   Mike M 06:21  |  Mark Lincoln 16/12/07
      321.   To destroy Hiroshima 06:36  |  Mark Lincoln 16/12/07
      322.   The NPT - a great success 06:43  |  Mark Lincoln 16/12/07
      323.   290 - Mark Lincoln 07:12  |  a wandering Jew 16/12/07
      324.   Here is my intel tip 07:31  |  leo 16/12/07
      325.   Mark Lincoln and so much double talk 1 07:54  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/12/07
      326.   Mark Lincoln, so much double talk 2 08:04  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/12/07
      327.   Mark Lincoln, So... 08:05  |  Yosemite 16/12/07
      328.   False Flag Operation 08:13  |  Peter North 16/12/07
      329.   False Flag Operation 08:13  |  Peter North 16/12/07
      330.   #322, Mark Lincoln 08:36  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/12/07
      331.   KATHY #244 Re case Dorothy and case Mark Lincoln 09:47  |  dana 16/12/07
      332.   American support for Israel has collapsed 10:37  |  Nancy 16/12/07
      333.   #331 Dana 10:38  |  Daybreak 16/12/07
      334.   Cipora Julianna Kohn of the`blinkered view`. 13:36  |  Hubal 16/12/07
      335.   #272 17 13:44  |  Chris Linthwaite 16/12/07
      336.   #319 Phew 13:56  |  Chris Linthwaite 16/12/07
      337.   # 320 Marl L IN SHAORT ALL YOUR INFO` IS FROM BOOKS.. 14:15  |  Kathy 16/12/07
      338.   # 280 Michael..Yes,we`ll agree to disagree 14:36  |  Kathy 16/12/07
      339.   # 331 dana..Here We Go Again..I was Expecting you Any Minute Now. 14:59  |  Kathy 16/12/07
      340.   # 326 Cipora J.K ***About Pakistan and The Reasons.. 15:17  |  Kathy 16/12/07
      341.   # 314 Dorothy cherry picking herself 15:41  |  Kathy 16/12/07
      342.   Gil # 271 19:51  |  American in NY 16/12/07
      343.   CJK # 284 20:05  |  American in NY 16/12/07
      344.   CJK # 265 20:56  |  American in NY 16/12/07
      345.   Kathy # 289 21:05  |  American in NY 16/12/07
      346.   daybreak # 333 Polls 21:13  |  American in NY 16/12/07
      347.   American in NY 22:28  |  Daybreak 16/12/07
      348.   American in NY Part 2 22:42  |  Daybreak 16/12/07
      349.   #343, ANY 23:12  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/12/07
      350.   #344, ANY 23:24  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/12/07
      351.   #334, Hubal 23:28  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/12/07
      352.   Declining Support for Israel 23:52  |  Nancy 16/12/07
      353.   Dana-Daybreak-Case Dorothy- No question Americans Support Israel 23:57  |  Dorothy 16/12/07
      354.   # 350 Cipora J.K re:ANY...Many Countries go Through a Period of . 00:34  |  Kathy 17/12/07
      355.   #353 Dorothy 00:42  |  Daybreak 17/12/07
      356.   # 353 Dorothy...A FINE EXAMPLE TO GIVE US HERE.I MEAN... 00:47  |  Kathy 17/12/07
      357.   # 352 Nancy Declining Support for Israel READ YOUR POST WITH CARE 00:55  |  Kathy 17/12/07
      358.   Dorothy Part 2 00:56  |  Daybreak 17/12/07
      359.   Dorothy Part 3 01:04  |  Daybreak 17/12/07
      360.   #352 Nancy 01:18  |  Daybreak 17/12/07
      361.   # 360 Daybreak re:Nancy.**Did I per Chance Misconstrued Nancy`s 01:56  |  Kathy 17/12/07
      362.   Cipora "I`ll take this factoid and ignore this one" 02:42  |  Hubal 17/12/07
      363.   Daybreak- 2007 PEW polls contradict you 02:46  |  Dorothy 17/12/07
      364.   What the Pew 2007 says- (amongst other things) 02:52  |  Dorothy 17/12/07
      365.   Declining Support for Israel #2 03:27  |  Nancy 17/12/07
      366.   Dorothy Continued 03:36  |  Daybreak 17/12/07
      367.   Dorothy Continued Part 2 03:40  |  Daybreak 17/12/07
      368.   #357 Kathy 03:45  |  Daybreak 17/12/07
      369.   Nancy 03:50  |  Daybreak 17/12/07
      370.   Trend lines or jumped the shark? 03:56  |  Nancy 17/12/07
      371.   #370 Nancy 04:38  |  Daybreak 17/12/07
      372.   # 357 Nancy..,.WELL,WELL IT SEEMS I DID MISCONSTRUE YOUR POST 05:51  |  Kathy 17/12/07
      373.   #362, Hubal 06:42  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 17/12/07
      374.   Trend lines or jumped the shark? #2 06:55  |  Nancy 17/12/07
      375.   Trend lines or jumped the shark? #2 08:16  |  Nancy Chester 17/12/07
      376.   #375 Nancy 10:24  |  Daybreak 17/12/07
      377.   The war of wars 10:32  |  Andre van Eeden 17/12/07
      378.   Cipora. As if you were really interested? 14:02  |  Hubal 17/12/07
      379.   Daybreak- Eroding support for Israel 14:19  |  Dorothy 17/12/07
      380.   #379 Dorothy 15:26  |  Daybreak 17/12/07
      381.   Kathy # 250 3& #354 re: false assumptions 15:46  |  American in NY 17/12/07
      382.   # 380 Daybreak..I went and discovered exactly what you have put o 16:07  |  Kathy 17/12/07
      383.   # 381 ANY false assumptions.SENT YOU A FULL RESPONSE YESTERDAY 16:20  |  Kathy 17/12/07
      384.   #382 Kathy 16:33  |  Daybreak 17/12/07
      385.   # 372 Correction to My Typographical Errors.Please put it out. 16:37  |  Kathy 17/12/07
      386.   Kathy # 383 16:43  |  American in NY 17/12/07
      387.   #303 Hi Mark T 18:26  |  ballistic 17/12/07
      388.   #375 Hi Nancy 18:35  |  ballistic 17/12/07
      389.   # 386 ANY...Thanks for the reply.I CAN LIVE WITH THIS PREMISS 18:42  |  Kathy 17/12/07
      390.   # 384 Daybreak,,It was Thanks to You and will printsaid Gallup P. 18:49  |  Kathy 17/12/07
      391.   #390 Kathy 19:17  |  Daybreak 17/12/07
      392.   Daybreak # 347 348 American support for Israel? 2nd try 19:53  |  American in NY 17/12/07
      393.   #392 American in New York 20:19  |  Daybreak 17/12/07
      394.   #392 American in NY 22:07  |  ballistic 17/12/07
      395.   daybreak - or is it nightfall? 23:37  |  dana 17/12/07
      396.   daybreak 23:38  |  American in NY 17/12/07
      397.   #395 Dana 00:29  |  Daybreak 18/12/07
      398.   American in New York 00:50  |  Daybreak 18/12/07
      399.   # 396 ANY re:Daybreak...That Was A bit Uncalled For Wasn`t It? 01:02  |  Kathy 18/12/07
      400.   # 395 NIGHT FALL,NIGHT FALL,...GO BACK TO SLEEP GIRL 01:09  |  Kathy 18/12/07
      401.   Dana Part 2 01:11  |  Daybreak 18/12/07
      402.   #400 Yes, and blah, blah, blah 01:57  |  ballistic 18/12/07
      403.   #398 There goes Kath, the Ann Landers of TB 02:03  |  ballistic 18/12/07
      404.   ballestic,how long you going to babble about the movie,farewell 17:23  |  terrornator 18/12/07