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Former U.S. president Bill Clinton, former prime minister Ehud Barak, and former Palestinian Authority head Yasser Arafat at the Camp David Summit in 2000. (Archives)
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Document shows progress on core issues at Camp David summit
By Barak Ravid, Haaretz Correspondent
Tags: Camp David, Jerusalem 

A document obtained by Haaretz shows that the Palestinian Authority vehemently rejected most of Israel's security demands in negotiations at Camp David and Taba in 2000 and 2001, but contrary to what has been assumed for years, significant agreement was reached on parts of three core issues: borders, refugees and Jerusalem.

The 26-page document, signed by Gilad Sher, bureau chief to then prime minister Ehud Barak, was entitled, "The Status of the Diplomatic Process with the Palestinians Points to Update the Incoming Prime Minister."

The document, revealed as Israel and the Palestinians resume official talks following a seven-year hiatus, shows details of the Palestinians' objections for the first time, and illustrates the precise differences in the respective negotiating positions when the talks were frozen in early 2001.
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The document also reveals that as early as June 2000, an "initiated separation" plan that would eventually become the basis for Israel's withdrawal from territories were being formulated, in the event talks with the Palestinians break down.

That plan received the cabinet's final approval in October 2000. The separation plan was to encompass all aspects of life, and would take place over a number of years, even while negotiations would be kept on the back burner as an option, should conditions change.

The document was presented to Barak two weeks after the elections on February 6, 2001, in which Barak lost to Ariel Sharon, and a few days before Sharon assumed office.

Among the PA's objections were the demilitarization of the Palestinian Authority; the proposed timeline for the Israel Defense Forces to withdraw from the territories; the IDF's right to emergency deployment in the Jordan Valley; and control of the skies.

The document notes that "at the Camp David negotiations, President [Bill] Clinton agreed on the security issue in the spirit of Israel's positions, but after the summit, the Palestinians reneged on most of the understandings."

Some of the details have been revealed over the years in books and articles, but most have remained ambiguous or unknown.

According to the plan:

* Israel would keep settlement blocs comprising 80 percent of the settlers in the West Bank.

* No evacuation of settlements was planned for the initial phase of the plan. At an appropriate time, it stated, isolated settlements outside the blocs or security zones would be transfered to one of the settlement blocks or to Israel.

* A wide security zone would be maintained along the Dead Sea as far north as Meholah in the Jordan Valley.

* Security forces would be beefed up in the Old City and East Jerusalem, and its environs.

The 26-page booklet was written during a long series of discussions by a team headed by Sher, which included former deputy head of the Shin Bet security service Israel Hasson; Barak's political adviser, Pini Meidan; the IDF chief of planning and strategy, Brigadier General Mike Herzog; head of the Military Advocate General's international law department, Colonel Daniel Reisner; the secretary of the negotiating team, Gidi Grinstein; the head of the negotiation administration, Colonel Shaul Arieli; his deputy, Moti Kristal; and Foreign Ministry representative Oded Eran. Then-head of the National Security Council, Major General Uzi Dayan, also contributed comments. The booklet summed up in almost obsessively thorough and precise detail all diplomatic action that had been taken vis-a-vis the Palestinians during Barak's term in office.

Far-reaching ideas
The main principle toward which Israel was working, according to the document prepared by Sher's team, was not to offer any more territory to the Palestinians before understandings were reached on all the core issues. Israel was prepared to discuss far-reaching ideas, but continually emphasized that "nothing is agreed until everything is agreed."

Another rule was that "no issues could be agreed upon separately from others," because of the interlocking connection among all the issues. These two messages were emphasized frequently during the talks in 2000.

In preparation for the current renewal of talks, the documents were presented to Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni and her team a month before the Annapolis summit. The Israeli and the Palestinian teams, headed by Livni and Ahmed Qureia, met Wednesday in what was intended as the official reopening of talks, seven years after they were frozen.

During the talks at Camp David and Taba, the parties worked toward a Framework Agreement for Permanent Status (FAPS). The agreement was supposed to encompass all the core issues and offer guidelines and time tables to arrive at a solution.

In comparison, during the opening of talks between Israeli and Palestinian teams on Wednesday, the parties avoided defining the legal status of the document toward which they were working. The joint statement at Annapolis stated that the goal was a "peace agreement," a term open to interpretation.

Olmert has not yet given guidelines to the negotiating team on the present talks. However, the 2001 booklet documents 12 guidelines given by Barak to the negotiating teams.

Gaps revealed
The 2001 document reveals the gaps between the parties on all the core issues:
The parties were divided over when to make a declaration on the end of the conflict. Israel wanted the end-of-conflict declaration to be at the time of the signing of the FAPS. The Palestinians refused, and wanted all prisoners incarcerated in Israel to be released with the signing of the FAPS. Israel proposed that the prisoners be released with the Palestinian end-of-conflict declaration.

The document also reveals the nature of the Palestinian state, constituting the implementation of the right of the entire Palestinian people to self-determination. Among the differences noted was "a disagreement among the Palestinians with regard to formal recognition of the State of Israel as a Jewish state."

With regard to borders, the booklet states that the Palestinians were willing to show flexibility, and had agreed to adjustments to the June 4, 1967, borders, which were "equal in their extent and quality to meet Israel's demographic needs." The talks failed to reach an agreement over the Latrun area, the area annexed to Jerusalem after 1967, and the Dead Sea.

In addition, while Israel sought to exchange territory for 6 to 8 percent of the West Bank in order to keep the settlement blocks, the Palestinians demanded that all territorial exchanges be at a 1:1 ratio, and would not be greater than 2.3 percent of the West Bank.

In terms of safe passage between the West Bank and Gaza, Israel wanted the passage to remain under its sovereignty, but controlled by the Palestinians; the Palestinians wanted a land corridor through Israel that would be under its sovereignty.

Jerusalem
With regard to Jerusalem, it was determined that there would be two capitals, Jerusalem and Al-Quds, and that special arrangements would be made on matters of security, planning, construction and law enforcement. The Palestinians emphasized the idea of the "open city"  that the two capitals would constitute one urban unit separate from its surroundings, both Israeli and Palestinian.

In the areas outside the Old City walls, Israel's guiding principle was that Arab areas would be Palestinian, but presented a map with Jewish territorial contiguity that created Palestinian "bubbles." The Palestinians, for their part, demanded Palestinian territorial contiguity with Israeli "bubbles" connected to Jewish Jerusalem via roads.

In the matter of the "sacred basin" and the Old City, Israel wanted a "special regime," and to keep the Jewish and the Armenian quarters under its aegis. The Palestinians, however, wanted sovereignty over the Muslim, Christian and most of the Armenian quarters.

In terms of the Jewish holy sites outside the walls, the Palestinians proposed special arrangements that would benefit Israel but would not constitute overeignty.

An even more complicated issue was that of the Temple Mount. Israel suggested that sovereignty would be "ambiguous," and that powers of administration and control would be shared, or alternatively, that sovereignty would be determined based on the bond of each party to the site. The Palestinians refused both alternatives and rejected any compromise on the Temple Mount.

Refugees
On refugees, Israel refused to accept sole responsibility for the creation of the refugee problem and to any right of return, theoretical or actual. Israel did agree to recognize the suffering of the 1948 refugees; to take part in an international effort to bring in a small number of refugees 20,000-40,000 at its discretion based on humanitarian considerations only; and to contribute funds to refugee rehabilitation. Israel's condition was that the "implementation of the final status agreement would bring an end to demands and a solution to the problem."

The Palestinians demanded that Israel recognize its sole responsibility for the creation and perpetuation of the refugee problem, and wanted Israel to recognize the Palestinian right of return as per UN resolution 194. However a document written during the talks stated that the Palestinians "showed understanding of the sensitivity of the issue for Israel, and willingness to find a formulation that would balance these feelings with their national needs."

The gaps on the issue of water remained at a legal level, while on the practical level agreement was extensive.

On the process of ratifying the agreement, Israel declared its intention to hold a referendum, while the Palestinians said nothing about this part of the process.

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      1.   Withdraw from ALL territory not allocated in the Partition! 03:56  |  lakshmi 13/12/07
      2.   Very interesting 03:59  |  Miguel Rodriguez 13/12/07
      3.   It is NOT "disputed", it is OCCUPIED. More shameful journalism 04:09  |  peacelover 13/12/07
      4.   So what we knew this before 04:45  |  Ibrahim 13/12/07
      5.   No such thing as a significant agreement 05:23  |  Frank 13/12/07
      6.   The truth about Camp David 05:45  |  Frank 13/12/07
      7.   Now we know Sharon acted 06:10  |  Colin Wright 13/12/07
      8.   What this document tells us.. 06:23  |  Akram Zekaria 13/12/07
      9.   Solely responsible for refugees? 06:38  |  Awake 13/12/07
      10.   Seven years of sleep 07:12  |  Fred Omran 13/12/07
      11.   Those "Peace talks" were aiming 07:17  |  Kris 13/12/07
      12.   2nd Try,withdraw from ALL territory which was not allocated to 07:48  |  lakshmi 13/12/07
      13.   Document reveals details of Camp David summit 08:12  |  Martin List,M.D. 13/12/07
      14.   Please 08:14  |  Not Falling For It 13/12/07
      15.   Arafat made Camp David null and void 08:19  |  KUTW 13/12/07
      16.   Negotiations between the weak and the powerful... 08:26  |  Mordecai 13/12/07
      17.   To Ibrahim: Do you want a state or to pose conditions? 08:43  |  AA 13/12/07
      18.   the parties were, and are, far appart 1 08:47  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 13/12/07
      19.   Mordecai 08:49  |  Not Falling For It 13/12/07
      20.   the parties were, and are, far appart 2 09:00  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 13/12/07
      21.   Fred Omran #9 Seven years of death 09:24  |  S 13/12/07
      22.   Israel must maintain its original negotiating stance 09:38  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 13/12/07
      23.   LAKSHMI Quit pretending Res.181 is NOT binding.Anyway the Arabs 09:38  |  PETER SM 13/12/07
      24.   Time Working Against the Palestinians!!! 09:53  |  DR ERIC 13/12/07
      25.   MORDECHAI.Stolen.You mean land ethnically cleansed of Jews in `48 09:53  |  PETER SM 13/12/07
      26.   FRANK #5&6 IS ON THE MONEY!!! 09:57  |  Dr Eric 13/12/07
      27.   PLEASE LETS NOT FORGET OSLOs MISTAKES!!! 10:00  |  Dr Eric 13/12/07
      28.   Waste of Time 10:03  |  David Schwartz 13/12/07
      29.   Akram Zekaria - Thank You, VERY CRITICAL!! 10:03  |  Dr Eric 13/12/07
      30.   NOT falling 4 it.Likud is NOT the Israeli govt. Hamas is the Pal 10:04  |  PETER SM 13/12/07
      31.   Thank you AA compromize or Right wing status Quo!! 10:10  |  Dr Eric 13/12/07
      32.   To Not falling for it 10:15  |  Dr Eric 13/12/07
      33.   Cipora Julianna Kohn and her first two points 10:20  |  Yaakov Sullivan 13/12/07
      34.   A pathetic failure 10:24  |  David Howard 13/12/07
      35.   Hardly the Palestinians playing as if they had all the cards, Ms 10:25  |  Yaakov Sullivan 13/12/07
      36.   Miguel 10:27  |  Nephtaly 13/12/07
      37.   12#lakshmi Resolution 181 has nothing to 10:28  |  Akram Zekaria 13/12/07
      38.   #35 yaakov and back pedalling as usual 10:41  |  v ictor hardman 13/12/07
      39.   It must be clear to all, the situation today is worse than the 10:45  |  Asher 13/12/07
      40.   The facts are (much) more powerful than this document...... 10:50  |  Swiss (Dino) 13/12/07
      41.   Crying over spilt milk and worse.. 10:51  |  Esther 13/12/07
      42.   Mordecai # 16 UNGAR 194 Was Not An UNSCR 10:52  |  Jeff Northridge 13/12/07
      43.   #40 dino points the way from 60 years ago 11:05  |  victor hardman 13/12/07
      44.   Not only Sderot ..pt-l 11:11  |  Akram Zekaria 13/12/07
      45.   # 43 victor-Pauli 11:27  |  Swiss (Dino) 13/12/07
      46.   Cipora Julianna Kohn 11:38  |  Fabio 13/12/07
      47.   Barak was too weak to make deal, and Israel ran away like a babe 11:41  |  Tamir Palestine 13/12/07
      48.   #43 Victor Harman is right 11:46  |  Bo 13/12/07
      49.   DINO - Sweet dreams - do not listen to your mother 11:52  |  17 13/12/07
      50.   Akram Zekaria. Not only Sderot 11:52  |  Hubal 13/12/07
      51.   It will never work! 11:55  |  Maureen Ann 13/12/07
      52.   #43 Hi Victor Hardman. 11:59  |  Maureen Ann 13/12/07
      53.   TAMR GAZA.I do not think Armenians have a lot of love for Moslems 12:02  |  PETER SM 13/12/07
      54.   T.GAXA Barak was not weak perfidious Arafat used the intifada 12:06  |  PETER SM 13/12/07
      55.   GREAT PHOTO 12:10  |  Atilla Karagözoğlu 13/12/07
      56.   Lakshimi 12:11  |  george 13/12/07
      57.   are all rights demanded by the rightful alright? 12:15  |  observer 13/12/07
      58.   MAUREEN N.What Will Arabs to use to buy guns when oil runs out? 12:21  |  PETER SM 13/12/07
      59.   Force should not be allowed to win 12:31  |  Keith T 13/12/07
      60.   Keith T 59 12:50  |  george 13/12/07
      61.   Ibrahim you`ve got your own country in the USA 12:50  |  Israeli 13/12/07
      62.   KEITH T Simplistic but no doubt. self satisfying post 12:54  |  PETER SM 13/12/07
      63.   PALESTINIANS ARE NOT HAPPY 13:01  |  Atilla Karagözoğlu 13/12/07
      64.   Which one is MOST STUPID ? 13:07  |  Atilla Karagözoğlu 13/12/07
      65.   Keith: Self Defense is another situation 13:17  |  CWW 13/12/07
      66.   To: George - 60 13:25  |  Keith T. 13/12/07
      67.   Water over the Damn 13:26  |  Mark Lincoln 13/12/07
      68.   #1 Lakshmi 13:37  |  Patricia 13/12/07
      69.   # 48 bo 13:38  |  Axel 13/12/07
      70.   # 60 george 13:44  |  Axel 13/12/07
      71.   no peace ever 13:51  |  hebrew hammer 13/12/07
      72.   george to Keith T #60 Wrong. 13:55  |  Hubal 13/12/07
      73.   To: CWW - Racism?? 14:06  |  Keith T. 13/12/07
      74.   #1.Lakshmi is RIGHT 14:12  |  Zapatta 13/12/07
      75.   #2.There is no such thing as DISDPUTED. 14:16  |  Benyamin 13/12/07
      76.   to swiss dino #40 14:20  |  dr eric 13/12/07
      77.   Keith T 66 14:22  |  george 13/12/07
      78.   axel 70 14:24  |  george 13/12/07
      79.   KEITH T why stop there? isn;t it by your yardstick 14:24  |  PETER SM 13/12/07
      80.   Keith T 66 14:26  |  george 13/12/07
      81.   ZAPATTA was agreed by whom? rejected by whom? 14:29  |  PETER SM 13/12/07
      82.   Huball 14:30  |  george 13/12/07
      83.   AXEL Sending terrorist attacks into Israel from Egypt pre `56 14:37  |  PETER SM 13/12/07
      84.   77/80 - To George 14:46  |  Keith T. 13/12/07
      85.   David Howard (Post No. 34) 14:52  |  Johnny Weintraub 13/12/07
      86.   Keith again 14:57  |  george 13/12/07
      87.   # 49 17, the (sleeping) trend is also not my friend...... 15:01  |  Swiss (Dino) 13/12/07
      88.   finally Keith 15:02  |  geor 13/12/07
      89.   Tired Old Rabid Responses 15:11  |  Dorothy 13/12/07
      90.   lakshmi...still beating the dead horse 15:14  |  Lynn 13/12/07
      91.   # 76 dr eric 15:16  |  Swiss (Dino) 13/12/07
      92.   Ibrahim....it isn`t your decision 15:17  |  Lynn 13/12/07
      93.   Cipora- Self- 15:20  |  Dorothy 13/12/07
      94.   To Lakshmi No. 1 15:23  |  Boris S. 13/12/07
      95.   Small gaps, finally closed in the Geneva Initiative 15:24  |  Tosefta 13/12/07
      96.   Laksmi, when India&Pakistan is repatriated, then you can talk... 15:27  |  Yadu 13/12/07
      97.   Cipora`s #2 Demilitarization 15:28  |  Dorothy 13/12/07
      98.   Cipora - What Negativity! /Waking up to Reality 15:38  |  Dorothy 13/12/07
      99.   # 42 More balony and lies from Jeff 15:44  |  Mike the American 13/12/07
      100.   Akram Zekaria- Schlepping the Past Around 15:51  |  Dorothy 13/12/07
      101.   Divine judgement on Israel (there are no free lunches)... 16:07  |  bat yam 13/12/07
      102.   george #82. You know not what you speak of. 16:08  |  Hubal 13/12/07
      103.   Peter SM - aggressive acts before 1956 16:08  |  Mark Lincoln 13/12/07
      104.   . . . you`ve got your own country in the USA - Israeli 16:16  |  Mark Lincoln 13/12/07
      105.   Keith T #59 16:18  |  Steve 13/12/07
      106.   THE SLAVES & THE REFUGEES 16:21  |  Atilla Karagözoğlu 13/12/07
      107.   Not DISPUTED about DISDPUTED.: 16:22  |  watcher 13/12/07
      108.   NO WAY TO RAPE THE SOULS ! 16:24  |  Atilla Karagözoğlu 13/12/07
      109.   WHY THERE IS NO SELF HATER IN ISLAM WORLD ! 16:28  |  Atilla Karagözoğlu 13/12/07
      110.   this article shows the stupidity of negotiations 16:31  |  redmike 13/12/07
      111.   CHARACTER & HONOR 16:33  |  Atilla Karagözoğlu 13/12/07
      112.   LOYAL BLOOD 16:33  |  Atilla Karagözoğlu 13/12/07
      113.   HONESTY 16:34  |  Atilla Karagözoğlu 13/12/07
      114.   you dont worth a penny IF YOU DONT HAVE ABOVE POINTS 16:35  |  Atilla Karagözoğlu 13/12/07
      115.   Benyamin # 75 Disputed Territory 16:39  |  Jeff Northridge 13/12/07
      116.   PALESTINIANS ARE NOT HAPPY 16:41  |  Atilla Karagözoğlu 13/12/07
      117.   #1 - and the moon is made of cheese! 16:42  |  redmike 13/12/07
      118.   ISRAELIES ARE HAPPY. JEWS ARE HAPPY. 16:42  |  ATİLLA KARAGÖZOĞLU 13/12/07
      119.   Atilla-regarding the great photo 16:43  |  Dorothy 13/12/07
      120.   WHY JEWISH WORLD HAVE MUCH SELF HATERS THAN OTHERS ? 16:44  |  Atilla Karagözoğlu 13/12/07
      121.   WHO ARE MY SUPPORTERS AGAINST TO THE JEWISH MISTAKES ? 16:46  |  ATİLLA KARAGÖZOĞLU 13/12/07
      122.   HOW POOR PHOTO 16:48  |  ATİLLA KARAGÖZOĞLU 13/12/07
      123.   #87 just for us .. 16:49  |  redmike 13/12/07
      124.   #3 "not disputed"? Incorrect 16:50  |  Sue 13/12/07
      125.   haaretz ! my love 16:52  |  atilla karagozoglu 13/12/07
      126.   keith T 17:17  |  citizen zero 13/12/07
      127.   An Impressive Haaretz Scoop 17:22  |  Jeff Northridge 13/12/07
      128.   would you join into my dreams ? I have enough rooms 17:27  |  Atilla Karagözoğlu 13/12/07
      129.   Small gaps, finally closed in the Geneva Initiative 17:39  |  Tosefta 13/12/07
      130.   THE SOUL OF JERUSALEM IS CRYING ! 17:42  |  Atilla Karagözoğlu 13/12/07
      131.   THE SOUL OF JERUSALEM IS CRYING ! 17:42  |  Atilla Karagözoğlu 13/12/07
      132.   #3 Peacelover - Proper terminology is LIBERATED 17:44  |  * BEN JABO 13/12/07
      133.   #107citizen zero 17:47  |  tbora 13/12/07
      134.   #12 Lakshmi - No reason to withdraw 17:47  |  * BEN JABO 13/12/07
      135.   # 1Is UN partition acceptable as a plan? 17:49  |  Mark 13/12/07
      136.   #14 not falling for it 17:51  |  * BEN JABO 13/12/07
      137.   #93 Lincoln (Abe would be ashamed of you) 17:53  |  * BEN JABO 13/12/07
      138.   Israel backed its words with action, Palestinians never did 17:57  |  Gili 13/12/07
      139.   george #82 Still wrong. 18:02  |  Hubal 13/12/07
      140.   # 87 DINO - no dreams at all, nothing but nightmares 18:12  |  17 13/12/07
      141.   Cipora Re Dorothy 18:28  |  Ephraim 13/12/07
      142.   Camp David Akram Zekaria. 18:33  |  Abu Yusuf 13/12/07
      143.   Cipora RE DOROTHY 18:36  |  Ephraim 13/12/07
      144.   To Cipora # 18 and 20, for her excellent posts. 18:38  |  Fortuna Benmayor 13/12/07
      145.   "Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed" 18:42  |  Michael N 13/12/07
      146.   `#78 george 18:47  |  Axel 13/12/07
      147.   # 8 Akram Zekaria..THE WHOLE THING IS A BIG JOKE!! 18:48  |  Kathy 13/12/07
      148.   Let Arabs make concessions for peace 18:50  |  Chaim 13/12/07
      149.   swiss donkey keeps braying his sadness 18:57  |  peter 13/12/07
      150.   # 141 Ephraim..Cipora Re.Dorothy..I`LL TELL YOU WHAT 18:58  |  Kathy 13/12/07
      151.   Tossi Fetta #129 19:01  |  Ephraim 13/12/07
      152.   #144 Fortuna Benmayor..TWO BY CIPORA+ONE FROM YOU =THREE. 19:02  |  Kathy 13/12/07
      153.   so where`s the compromise? 19:03  |  peter 13/12/07
      154.   # 148 chaim 19:08  |  Axel 13/12/07
      155.   Tosefta-Keep telling the Truth 19:08  |  Dorothy 13/12/07
      156.   # 127 Jeff Northridge..Haaretz Scoop? MORE LIKE DESPERATION! 19:10  |  Kathy 13/12/07
      157.   Kathy 19:12  |  Ephraim 13/12/07
      158.   Ahhh Kathy #150 i`ll tell you what.... 19:15  |  Jeremiah 13/12/07
      159.   Hubal #139 19:16  |  Awake 13/12/07
      160.   # 151 Ephraim 19:22  |  17 13/12/07
      161.   # 138 gili 19:22  |  Axel 13/12/07
      162.   # 155 Dorothy..SO YOU AND TOSEFTA ARE GOING TO SOLVE 19:22  |  Kathy 13/12/07
      163.   Awake #159. Orders were carried out 19:29  |  Hubal 13/12/07
      164.   # 158 Jeremiah..WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?READ ON AND 19:32  |  Kathy 13/12/07
      165.   18 & 20 Cipora - The Differences Can be Bridged 19:37  |  Mark of Lewiston 13/12/07
      166.   An appeal to Peter of Montreal 19:37  |  Tosefta 13/12/07
      167.   # 149 Montreal-peterchen, accused of actively endangering...... 19:48  |  Swiss (Dino) 13/12/07
      168.   Kathy 19:48  |  Gabe1 13/12/07
      169.   On Camp David (Dorothy #155) 19:52  |  Tosefta 13/12/07
      170.   98 Dorothy - CHUNNEL 19:53  |  Mark of Lewiston 13/12/07
      171.   #151 Ephraim=Gabe1 and thinking 19:54  |  Tosefta 13/12/07
      172.   Kathy #162 Oh dear me and my, my! 19:55  |  Dorothy 13/12/07
      173.   !7@ 160 19:56  |  Ephraim 13/12/07
      174.   Dino the swiss cheese guy 20:00  |  Ephraim 13/12/07
      175.   127 Jeff Northridge - Agree, But . . . 20:01  |  Mark of Lewiston 13/12/07
      176.   #163 Hubal - Yes, two months later 20:03  |  Awake 13/12/07
      177.   Peter Sm. Armenians Palestinians loves Pal moslim 20:03  |  Tamir Palestine 13/12/07
      178.   # 166 You of the many Incarnations..Stop Pontificating.. 20:04  |  Kathy 13/12/07
      179.   # 166 Tosefta 20:07  |  Swiss (Dino) 13/12/07
      180.   Kathy dear, about being rabid and about Dorothy 20:10  |  Dorothy 13/12/07
      181.   Tosefta #171 20:14  |  Gabe1 13/12/07
      182.   # 172 Dorothy OH MY OH MY...DID I NOT PUT REASON FOR THE CAPS? 20:18  |  Kathy 13/12/07
      183.   lockshmock is first,the 1947 partition 20:19  |  TOMY 13/12/07
      184.   Missing details about Lydda (Hubal #163) 20:20  |  Tosefta 13/12/07
      185.   Dorothy #180 20:22  |  Ephraim 13/12/07
      186.   Awake #176 you need to do some harder 20:24  |  Hubal 13/12/07
      187.   Tosefta- Dennis Ross`s book 20:26  |  Dorothy 13/12/07
      188.   Tossi Fetta Re 184 20:30  |  Ephraim 13/12/07
      189.   Ephraim and Kathy 20:33  |  Dorothy 13/12/07
      190.   # 174 Gabe-Ephraim 20:36  |  Swiss (Dino) 13/12/07
      191.   Peter SM,Goerge,Patricia,Boris,yadu:here`s why you are all 20:37  |  lakshmi 13/12/07
      192.   No light at the end of the Chunnel (Mark of Lewiston #170) 20:37  |  Tosefta 13/12/07
      193.   Tosefta. Plan Dalet? #184 20:39  |  hubal 13/12/07
      194.   Swiss, If you are right 20:41  |  Ami 13/12/07
      195.   #139 - Sorry to try your patience Hubal, but... 20:41  |  JES 13/12/07
      196.   don`t confuse Israeli concessions with "progress"... 20:45  |  felix 13/12/07
      197.   contd. against Resolution 181. Peter SM why is Res.181 20:49  |  lakshmi 13/12/07
      198.   # 170 Mark Lewiston AND THE CHUNNEL TUNNEL..WELL?? 21:02  |  Kathy 13/12/07
      199.   Plan Dalet (Hubal #193) 21:02  |  Tosefta 13/12/07
      200.   tosefta -re: gabe 21:04  |  michael 13/12/07
      201.   # 194 Ami 21:05  |  Swiss (Dino) 13/12/07
      202.   aww swiss donkey pouting then braying 21:13  |  peter 13/12/07
      203.   Core issues 21:18  |  Baz Mann 13/12/07
      204.   100# Dorthy. Those who are "schlepping 21:20  |  Akram Zekaria 13/12/07
      205.   Hubal # 139 Accuracy May Not Be Possible 21:28  |  Jeff Northridge 13/12/07
      206.   Axel - look in the mirror!! 21:40  |  Mustafa 13/12/07
      207.   192 Tosefta - Chunnel Graphics 21:44  |  Mark of Lewiston 13/12/07
      208.   # 179 Swiss (Dino) READ YOUR POST TO TOSS,re: PETER. 21:52  |  Kathy 13/12/07
      209.   Cipora #193 21:53  |  Ephraim 13/12/07
      210.   Dino the swiss chesse guy 21:57  |  Ephraim 13/12/07
      211.   Who is to blame for refugee camps? 21:58  |  Joseph 13/12/07
      212.   147# Kath What a surprise .. 22:02  |  Akram Zekaria 13/12/07
      213.   Dorothy and Idle threats 22:09  |  Ephraim 13/12/07
      214.   Michael #200 22:13  |  Ephraim 13/12/07
      215.   To # 1 LAKSHMI & Fellow Comrade. 22:22  |  The Teacher/Instruct 13/12/07
      216.   NO to past mistakes 22:40  |  Brod 13/12/07
      217.   #203- too logical and practical 22:40  |  Michael N 13/12/07
      218.   #144, Fortuna Benmayor 22:44  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 13/12/07
      219.   Mark Lincoln #104 22:47  |  TonyL 13/12/07
      220.   #192, Tosefta 23:06  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 13/12/07
      221.   Cipora 18 & 20 23:18  |  Ephraim 13/12/07
      222.   Jeff Northridge #205 23:34  |  Ephraim 13/12/07
      223.   198 Kathy - Money Should be No Object 23:38  |  Mark of Lewiston 13/12/07
      224.   Chunnel (Mark of Lewiston #207) 23:39  |  Tosefta 13/12/07
      225.   Dino the swiss cheese guy 23:48  |  Ephraim 13/12/07
      226.   Iakshmi # 197 UNGAR 181 (part 1) 23:51  |  Jeff Northridge 13/12/07
      227.   #165, Mark of Lewiston 00:00  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 14/12/07
      228.   # 210 Gabe-Ephraim 00:07  |  Swiss (Dino) 14/12/07
      229.   #209, Ephraim 00:14  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 14/12/07
      230.   # 208 Kathy 00:17  |  Swiss (Dino) 14/12/07
      231.   Tosefta: Pull the other one 00:20  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 14/12/07
      232.   #97, Dorothy 00:29  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 14/12/07
      233.   # 210 Ephraim re: DINO 00:31  |  17 14/12/07
      234.   # 216 Brod..NO to past mistakes..IN A COUPLE OF WORDS.. 00:34  |  Kathy 14/12/07
      235.   Second appeal to Peter of Montreal 00:46  |  Tosefta 14/12/07
      236.   # 200 michael of canada(WHYTHE LOWER CASES)? 00:48  |  Kathy 14/12/07
      237.   Iakshmi # 197 UNGAR 181 (part 2) 00:53  |  Jeff Northridge 14/12/07
      238.   # 223 Mark of Lewiston.GOOD BUT STILL PIE IN THE SKY.. 00:58  |  Kathy 14/12/07
      239.   #154 Axel. Like demanding a pauper to give all his money to Bill 01:22  |  Chaim 14/12/07
      240.   # 220 Cipora J.K .I WONDER IF TOSEFTA ISA DISABLED PERSON? 01:30  |  Kathy 14/12/07
      241.   Ciapora: No, no and no 01:34  |  Fred Omran 14/12/07
      242.   Ephraim # 222 There Is One Relevant Point 01:35  |  Jeff Northridge 14/12/07
      243.   LAKSHMI.You may as well close the UN if non compliance with GA 01:52  |  PETER SM 14/12/07
      244.   # 233 *17* OH YOU ARE A ONE! i DO LIKE YOUR METHOD.. 02:03  |  Kathy 14/12/07
      245.   #230, Dino 02:03  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 14/12/07
      246.   Finer distinction for finer minds (Margie of SA #229) 02:04  |  Tosefta 14/12/07
      247.   LAKSHMI.Why is there a UNSCR 242 if UNGAR 181 is operative? 02:09  |  PETER SM 14/12/07
      248.   Cipora- The short answer 02:13  |  Dorothy 14/12/07
      249.   # 241 Fred Omran "no, no and no" 02:14  |  17 14/12/07
      250.   # 241 Fred Omran...Cipora(not Ciapora) No no no 02:20  |  Kathy 14/12/07
      251.   # 97 & 98 Dorothy To Cipora..YOU DO ORDER ABOUT FROM OVER YONDER 02:33  |  Kathy 14/12/07
      252.   Camp David - re: Photo 02:35  |  17 14/12/07
      253.   #195 JES, or is it 02:42  |  Hubal 14/12/07
      254.   tosefta...so glad you are here 02:43  |  Lynn 14/12/07
      255.   cipora #229 02:57  |  Ephraim 14/12/07
      256.   Jeff Northridge #242 03:04  |  Ephraim 14/12/07
      257.   lakshmi #197. Why bother? 03:08  |  Bruce 14/12/07
      258.   Lynn Re Hamas. 03:09  |  Hubal 14/12/07
      259.   To Mike the American 03:17  |  Scharker Yid 14/12/07
      260.   Howdy Jeff&Peter SM,the main question here is what are the 03:19  |  lakshmi 14/12/07
      261.   Tosefta # 235 Why Don`t You Take Your Own Advice? 03:20  |  Jeff Northridge 14/12/07
      262.   contd.Peter Sm &Howdy Jeff N,not a good sign,because when the 03:25  |  lakshmi 14/12/07
      263.   Hubal 03:27  |  17 14/12/07
      264.   There would not have been status quo for so long if P1 03:34  |  TonyL 14/12/07
      265.   There would not have been status quo for so long if P2 03:36  |  TonyL 14/12/07
      266.   Tossi Fetta #246 03:39  |  Ephraim 14/12/07
      267.   arabist apologist using the swiss donkey 03:47  |  peter 14/12/07
      268.   Kathy and the non-aligned nations 03:54  |  Fred Omran 14/12/07
      269.   247Peter SM I have just sent off 2 posts to you &howdy jeff,here 04:01  |  lakshmi 14/12/07
      270.   #58 Peter SM. Really? 04:06  |  Maureen Ann 14/12/07
      271.   Tosefta - deal with reality 04:07  |  Mark Lincoln 14/12/07
      272.   Hubal - you are right 04:13  |  Fred Omran-Locke 14/12/07
      273.   Reply to Dr. Martin List (Post No. 13) 04:30  |  Johnny Weintraub 14/12/07
      274.   # 268 Fred Omran 04:38  |  17 14/12/07
      275.   lakshmi the chuchem 04:41  |  peter 14/12/07
      276.   MAUREEN N Because at the moment Arabs are riding the oil boom 05:34  |  PETER SM 14/12/07
      277.   LAKSHMI UNSCR 242 has made a ruling on the whole issue 05:41  |  PETER SM 14/12/07
      278.   17 nyc and pretending 05:44  |  Fred Omran Locke 14/12/07
      279.   Mark Lincoln whigs out 05:54  |  Danite 14/12/07
      280.   Toseftas pen pals 05:56  |  Danite 14/12/07
      281.   Tosefta PS 05:57  |  Danite 14/12/07
      282.   Keith T`s wierd world view 06:00  |  Reid 14/12/07
      283.   Dino - Israel`s 18 Months to live 06:22  |  Reid 14/12/07
      284.   #271, Mark Lincoln, deal with reality 06:44  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 14/12/07
      285.   #253, Hubal 06:52  |  JES 14/12/07
      286.   #258 - Hubal, have you read the Hamas Covenant? 07:04  |  JES 14/12/07
      287.   Mark of Lewiston - Gaza Chunnel 07:12  |  Reid 14/12/07
      288.   #279, Danite 07:16  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 14/12/07
      289.   Cipora - Demilitarized Palestine 07:18  |  Reid 14/12/07
      290.   #287, Reid 08:23  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 14/12/07
      291.   Haaretz, where is my post to Danite? 08:24  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 14/12/07
      292.   #287, Reid 08:43  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 14/12/07
      293.   Tosefta: still tugging at the other one? 09:34  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 14/12/07
      294.   # 280 / # 281 Danite 09:43  |  Swiss (Dino) 14/12/07
      295.   # 283 Reid 09:52  |  Swiss (Dino) 14/12/07
      296.   # 233 17, bye-bye and farewell....:) (2nd try) 10:11  |  Swiss (Dino) 14/12/07
      297.   The World Acccording to Cipora Juliana Kohn 10:37  |  Yaakov Sullivan 14/12/07
      298.   # 245 Cipora Julianna Kohn 10:48  |  Swiss (Dino) 14/12/07
      299.   JES 12:11  |  Hubal 14/12/07
      300.   Dino (Swiss) 12:41  |  Ismael Haniye 14/12/07
      301.   Dino 12:43  |  Ehud Olmert 14/12/07
      302.   Dino 12:43  |  Tony Blair 14/12/07
      303.   # 288 Cipora J.K re:Danite..& P.A et al.TRUE,TRUE,TRUE... 15:13  |  Kathy 14/12/07
      304.   # 258 Fred Omran 15:27  |  Kathy 14/12/07
      305.   Yaacov Sullivan #297 Sounds about right 16:38  |  Dorothy 14/12/07
      306.   # 300/ # 301 /# 302 Ismais Hanijeh/Ehud Olmert/Tony Blair 16:46  |  Swiss (Dino) 14/12/07
      307.   # 164 Jeremiah= Tosefta..JUST CAME TO MIND 17:24  |  Kathy 14/12/07
      308.   277Peter SM,sorry,the SC does not,repeat,does not have the 18:34  |  lakshmi 14/12/07
      309.   #239 chaim 20:25  |  Axel 14/12/07
      310.   JERUSALEM THE DIVISION 22:36  |  Stan L Bowman Jr 15/12/07
      311.   So it was all Arafat`s fault? 20:21  |  sakrayami 02/01/08
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