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del.icio.us Digg It!  new Last update - 17:49 11/12/2007 Holy stones, not stumbling blocks By Haaretz Editorial Tags: Jerusalem The State of Israel was established without Jerusalem. The United Nations decreed, in its resolution on partition 60 years ago, that Palestine should be divided into Arab and Jewish states, and that Jerusalem would be placed under international administration. The fledgling state put up with this decree, although Jerusalem had been an object of the Jewish people's yearning during 2,000 years of exile and was a mainstay in the national anthem. Israel's military power in 1948, and its political strength in the cease-fire agreements and secret negotiations with Jordan's King Abdullah I, were insufficient to enable it to gain control of the Old City. The state concentrated its efforts on persuading the world to recognize, at least de facto if not de jure, Israel's unilateral declaration of West Jerusalem as its capital. Forty years after the Six-Day War and the capture and annexation of the Old City, Israel is finally on the threshold of an opportunity to make peace with its Palestinian neighbors. But Israeli political spoilers, with the help of a large and influential group of Diaspora Jews, now want to convert holy stones into stumbling blocks. These groups have recently launched a vigorous campaign to foil any attempt to reach a compromise on Jerusalem. Advertisement The Palestinians' triple demand has not changed from Yasser Arafat to Mahmoud Abbas: a state within the 1967 borders (possibly with slight amendments and territorial exchanges), with Jerusalem as its capital and a solution for the refugees of 1948. A large Israeli majority is willing to accept the first demand. The same majority adamantly objects to the third demand, if the Palestinians insist on bringing back the refugees, with their children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren, to within Israel's borders. The bargaining lines on the issues of borders and the refugees are clear. So will the distribution of blame for the negotiations' failure be, should Israel refuse to withdraw to the '67 lines and the Palestinians refuse to accept financial compensation for the refugees and settling them in their own state. Reaching arrangements on these two core issues would leave only Jerusalem, which was already debated at the Camp David conference held in the summer of 2000. The peace objectors, or those who speak in favor of peace but are unwilling to pay its price, are now forming a fortified wall around Greater Jerusalem. If their plan succeeds, they will convert the city of peace into an obstacle to peace. The method is simple, having been tried and tested repeatedly on the Israeli public, involving pulling out the slogan "Peres/Barak/Olmert will divide Jerusalem." Right-wing politicians, with financial and political support of American rightist Jewish and Christian groups, launch a preemptive attack. They intend to sway public opinion, parts of the coalition that may support them and the next Knesset elections. In the face of all these, the government and a majority of the public must respond clearly and confidently: Yes to concessions in Jerusalem, as distinguished from conceding Jerusalem. More Jewish World news and features Bookmark to del.icio.us Blast from the past The donkey is making a comeback as the prevalent form of transportation in Gaza. U.S. anti-Semitism The ZOA condemns the U.S. government for failing to protect Jewish students.   1.   Here is the thing............ 03:06  |  Bill Pearlman 11/12/07   2.   Not One Centimeter Of OUR Capital- Jerusalem 09:26  |  Yishai Kohen 11/12/07   3.   Jerusalem, D. C. 09:27  |  Johnny Weintraub 11/12/07   4.   Pals and Jews don`t seem to think like Haaretz 09:43  |  Sam 11/12/07   5.   Boy, oh boy 09:52  |  Nechama 11/12/07   6.   Peace = concession 10:01  |  Olly 11/12/07   7.   Please show arab concessions!!!!!! 10:04  |  lily 11/12/07   8.   OBEY G-D NOT SATAN KEEP ISRAEL JERUSALEM JEWISH ?? 10:09  |  Bill 11/12/07   9.   Haretz is correct, compromise or lose all in this last chance!!! 10:17  |  Ivar 11/12/07   10.   If concessions are made... 10:31  |  Walter 11/12/07   11.   For Jerusalem to Live, Part II 10:32  |  Yaakov Sullivan 11/12/07   12.   Returning stolen property is no a concession 10:35  |  Chanalau, Tova 11/12/07   13.   If Only 10:35  |  Matthew 11/12/07   14.   THE STATE OF ISRAEL WAS ESTABLISHED BY HASHEM - NOT THE BRITISH 10:37  |  Miriam Ashkelon 11/12/07   15.   And If Not?? 10:40  |  Yaakov Sullivan 11/12/07   16.   Help, Help, Help...... 10:53  |  Ralph 11/12/07   17.   MIRIAM ASHKELON on God, Jerusalem and Haaretz 11:01  |  Yaakov Sullivan 11/12/07   18.   Ok, one half of Jerusalem Another Gaza? 11:03  |  Petra 11/12/07   19.   Reply to # 2 Your City ? 11:04  |  sj 11/12/07   20.   #8 Miriam amen lady, amen!!! 11:06  |  Petra 11/12/07   21.   How many `civilizations` lusted for Jerusalem? 11:11  |  Petra 11/12/07   22.   This same editor would be horrified by a Jewish demand for Mecca 11:12  |  Burned Liberal 11/12/07   23.   #9 Sullivan in New York 11:14  |  Miriam Ashkelon 11/12/07   24.   Stumbling blocks or stumbling editorial 11:18  |  Gabe 11/12/07   25.   THIS IS GOING TO BE A NASTY STRUGGLE 11:22  |  indrajaya 11/12/07   26.   Bill you dishonor the Bible and the God of the Bible 11:32  |  Ivar 11/12/07   27.   your script belongs to 1938 not 2008 11:40  |  victor hardman 11/12/07   28.   If there is no G_d, concede & hope for the best! 11:47  |  Daniel 11/12/07   29.   indrajaya @ 20, That is all in your mind, due to the choices you 11:50  |  Virginia 11/12/07   30.   Burned Liberal on Mecca #22 12:02  |  Yaakov Sullivan 11/12/07   31.   Which concessions? 12:04  |  Joseph 11/12/07   32.   Sullivan remaking the world 12:07  |  Jasmine Murphy 11/12/07   33.   Olly that`s right, concede Jerusalem to the Israelis 12:08  |  Israeli 11/12/07   34.   # 29, VIRGINIA 12:13  |  indrajaya 11/12/07   35.   When scripture speaks of stumbling blocks... 12:17  |  Virginia 11/12/07   36.   A lesson in history for the Editorial 12:17  |  Avrohom Hacohen 11/12/07   37.   Dear editor.... 12:22  |  Esther 11/12/07   38.   Holy Stones not stumbling blocks 12:34  |  Pearl 11/12/07   39.   Moshiach and Divisions 12:36  |  Yitz 11/12/07   40.   The Old city should be Israel 12:46  |  Ofer Maimon 11/12/07   41.   There is no offer of peace pending. Whoever wrote this is a fool. 12:50  |  Pavel 11/12/07   42.   Haaretz doesn`t care about Jewish history or Israel`s safety 12:55  |  Steve Randolph 11/12/07   43.   Pearl on Memory and Sacrifice 12:57  |  Yaakov Sullivan 11/12/07   44.   Jasmine Murphy Trives in the Blood and Guts 13:00  |  Yaakov Sullivan 11/12/07   45.   indrajaya....your thirst for blood is truly unequaled... 13:03  |  Ofer Maimon 11/12/07   46.   Avraham HaKohen, why in the world would anyone 13:10  |  Yaakov Sullivan 11/12/07   47.   Jasmine Murphy thrives on peace and security 13:16  |  Jasmine Murphy 11/12/07   48.   # 45, OFER MAIMON 13:33  |  indrajaya 11/12/07   49.   NO to Concession 13:47  |  Brod 11/12/07   50.   There Are Ways To Do This 13:47  |  dyinglikeflies 11/12/07   51.   Yaakov Sullivan...arrogant or not - he is right 13:54  |  Ofer Maimon 11/12/07   52.   I have been told 13:56  |  Chris Linthwaite 11/12/07   53.   How about? 13:58  |  Paul Wood 11/12/07   54.   NO to J`lem Division and Yes to arabs deportation , 14:02  |  Joseph E . 11/12/07   55.   miriam Ashkelon,better change your moniker,since ashkelon stands 14:03  |  lakshmi 11/12/07   56.   the land was partitioned in 1922 with a land for arabs no more 14:04  |  victor hardman 11/12/07   57.   the land was partitioned in 1922 with a land for arabs no more 14:04  |  victor hardman 11/12/07   58.   What do East Jerusalem Arabs think? 14:04  |  Joseph 11/12/07   59.   Amman? 14:08  |  Motic 11/12/07   60.   Some corrections to this editorial,abbas is willing to do 14:12  |  lakshmi 11/12/07   61.   # 46 Jerusalem & the Arab world 14:23  |  Moshe from Haifa 11/12/07   62.   Holy Yerushalayim Hakodesh 14:28  |  Annette K 11/12/07   63.   YERUSHALAIM shel Zahav 14:34  |  Ephraim 11/12/07   64.   Paul Wood # 53 The Capital Of Israel 14:36  |  Jeff Northridge 11/12/07   65.   Haaretz ;sanity at last 14:41  |  Jacob 11/12/07   66.   Jerusalem, Jerusalem, if I forget thee.......... 14:42  |  Jim 11/12/07   67.   REports that Haaretz suppresses 14:45  |  Ephraim 11/12/07   68.   # 3 Johnny from Sugar Land 14:52  |  Jim 11/12/07   69.   Olmert seeks world acceptance. So does God. 14:58  |  Selah 11/12/07   70.   Divided, we stand 15:30  |  Tosefta 11/12/07   71.   #5 Obey G_d??? 15:31  |  Jim 11/12/07   72.   Haaretz, please post my earlier response to indrajaya 15:42  |  Virginia 11/12/07   73.   #55 lakshimi 15:44  |  Jim 11/12/07   74.   How Much Did You get Paid For Writing This 15:47  |  Joe Levinson 11/12/07   75.   One country 15:57  |  Husam 11/12/07   76.   Haaretz Speak (part 2) 15:58  |  Jeff Northridge 11/12/07   77.   #64 Jeff Northridge 16:03  |  Paul Wood 11/12/07   78.   OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 16:05  |  Ben Uziel 11/12/07   79.   Jasmine Murphy on peace and security 16:07  |  Yaakov Sullivan 11/12/07   80.   Mr. Hacohen, your lack of knowledge 16:11  |  Yaakov Sullivan 11/12/07   81.   Moshe from Haifa is guilty of the same arrogancee 16:16  |  Yaakov Sullivan 11/12/07   82.   #64 Jeff Northridge 16:22  |  Paul Wood 11/12/07   83.   #78 Ben Uziel 16:23  |  Paul Wood 11/12/07   84.   #63, Ephraim on cities & ideals. Oh,Y-m shel Zahav written in `67 16:32  |  zmogus 11/12/07   85.   the kottel 16:32  |  Spinoza Machievelli 11/12/07   86.   Paul Wood, the Bible and International Law 16:33  |  Yaakov Sullivan 11/12/07   87.   The problem with the embassies is West Jerusalem 16:41  |  Tosefta 11/12/07   88.   TOSSI FETTA #87 17:00  |  Ephraim 11/12/07   89.   #14 Hashem did not establish Israel 17:08  |  Lou Medel 11/12/07   90.   To Jeff Northridge:I JUST CALL IT APPEASEMENT.AND 17:10  |  JOSH 11/12/07   91.   Paul Wood # 77 Jerusalem As Israel`s Capital 17:11  |  Jeff Northridge 11/12/07   92.   Americans need to pipe down or "Come on Over" 17:13  |  Fred Fishman 11/12/07   93.   # 72, VIRGINIA 17:22  |  indrajaya 11/12/07   94.   #88 Ephraim=Gabe1 and thinking 17:22  |  Tosefta 11/12/07   95.   #78 Outrage 17:23  |  Jim 11/12/07   96.   #85 SPINOZA MACHIEVELLI!!! 17:43  |  Axelrod 11/12/07   97.   Al Quds is holy to Islam and Christianity, not Judaism 17:44  |  Raed Kami 11/12/07   98.   Al Quds is holy to Islam and Christianity, not Judaism 17:44  |  Raed Kami 11/12/07   99.   Al Quds is holy to Islam and Christianity, not Judaism 17:44  |  Raed Kami 11/12/07   100.   Tosefta # 87 The Corpus Separatum 17:46  |  Jeff Northridge 11/12/07   101.   #56 victor hardman 17:47  |  Jim 11/12/07   102.   Uhhh, Here is the thing... 2nd try 17:48  |  BBSNews 11/12/07   103.   what else to give? 17:49  |  issy hass 11/12/07   104.   #56 victor hardman 17:50  |  Jim 11/12/07   105.   the only "stumbling block" is the Arab War against Israel... 17:51  |  felix 11/12/07   106.   Jerusalel D. C. 2nd try 17:52  |  BBSNews 11/12/07   107.   sullivan...with idiots like raed kami..u still think u are right? 17:57  |  SHIMON 11/12/07   108.   sullivan...with fools like raed kami..u still think u are right? 17:57  |  SHIMON 11/12/07   109.   sullivan...with fools like raed kami..arabs dont deserve a thing 17:57  |  SHIMON 11/12/07   110.   # 81 re Moshe from Haifa 18:19  |  Sassie R 11/12/07   111.   Isy Hass 18:26  |  Jacob 11/12/07   112.   #89 Lou Medel 18:41  |  Miriam Ashkelon 11/12/07   113.   those that run the affairs of this world will not listen to truth 18:45  |  yahn goodey 11/12/07   114.   mr Jim,If i forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget. 1 19:00  |  mary for jews 11/12/07   115.   Jacob what Israel has given up 19:14  |  Israeli 11/12/07   116.   Mr Jim,.. let my right hand forget her cunning. 2 19:15  |  mary for jews 11/12/07   117.   Haaretz END the occupation 19:18  |  Ephraim 11/12/07   118.   # 97 Al Quds - not in the Atlas ! 19:31  |  Monica L 11/12/07   119.   Raed # 99 19:36  |  Rowan G 11/12/07   120.   Mr Israeli 19:40  |  Jacob 11/12/07   121.   jACOB in Manchester 19:40  |  Mary 11/12/07   122.   #89 Miriam 19:45  |  BBSNews 11/12/07   123.   Mary,Ephraim- God got it wrong 19:54  |  Jacob 11/12/07   124.   #70 Tosefta Re: Compromise on Jerusalem seems sensible 19:55  |  Smadar 11/12/07   125.   Mr Sullivan, G-D`s law above human laws which are blemish 19:56  |  mary for jews 11/12/07   126.   How to argue with a blockhead (Jeff Northridge #100) 19:58  |  Tosefta 11/12/07   127.   Jerusalem 20:03  |  j10 11/12/07   128.   Ephraim on new terrorism 20:09  |  BBSNews 11/12/07   129.   1995 U.S. Law regarding Jerusalem. 20:10  |  sandra chitayat 11/12/07   130.   Herzlian solution for Jerusalem 20:13  |  Zeev 11/12/07   131.   Jerusalem 20:31  |  Michael 11/12/07   132.   When you don`t care it is..... 21:19  |  ConnieM. 11/12/07   133.   #112 Miriam Ashkelon 21:19  |  Boycott 11/12/07   134.   JERUSALEM IS NOT THE PROBLEM 21:26  |  * BEN JABO 11/12/07   135.   # 100 Balony 21:28  |  Mike the American 11/12/07   136.   KICKING OVER 200000 JEWS FROM THEIR HOMES, ENDANGERING JER OKAY! 21:29  |  Ben 11/12/07   137.   Stones, not stumbling blocks 21:43  |  barrygoodlife 11/12/07   138.   real land for a prayer of peace? 21:46  |  Stanley 11/12/07   139.   ONE MORE TIME! PANTED THE ......... 22:01  |  tadchase 11/12/07   140.   # 26 IVAR 22:19  |  Bill 11/12/07   141.   Mr Israeli 22:31  |  Jacob 11/12/07   142.   Tossi Fetta @94- Mr Big and Impotent 22:31  |  Ephraim 11/12/07   143.   Smadar @124 22:45  |  GABE1 11/12/07   144.   Ephraim 22:52  |  Jacob 11/12/07   145.   Mike the American # 125 You Assume Too Much 22:57  |  Jeff Northridge 11/12/07   146.   Haaretz, the best Palestinian newspaper in Hebrew language 23:04  |  Gerry 11/12/07   147.   Our roots 23:10  |  Robert 11/12/07   148.   Pre-67 US policy on Jerusalem (Paul Wood #77) 23:14  |  Tosefta 11/12/07   149.   Ephraim=Gabe1 #142 23:15  |  Tosefta 11/12/07   150.   19 Years Are Missing From this Piece 23:25  |  E Press 11/12/07   151.   Jerusalem thoughts 23:32  |  Tosefta 11/12/07   152.   Herzlian solution YES! 23:43  |  BBSNews 11/12/07   153.   Tosefta # 126 What New Information? 23:51  |  Jeff Northridge 11/12/07   154.   Tossi Fetta @149 23:58  |  Ephraim 11/12/07   155.   Holy Stones, not stumbling blocks 00:01  |  Elliott Miller 12/12/07   156.   Worldly wisdom for Jeff Blockhead #153 00:06  |  Geppetto 12/12/07   157.   Mike the American # 135 Accountabilty 00:14  |  Jeff Northridge 12/12/07   158.   # 144 Gabe1 JERUSALEM IS OUR INHERITANCE.HERE GOES. 00:19  |  Kathy 12/12/07   159.   Kathy #158 00:34  |  GABE1 12/12/07   160.   #151 Tosefta 00:35  |  Smadar 12/12/07   161.   It`s a pretense, Jerusalem isn`t Holy to Muslims 00:37  |  * BEN JABO 12/12/07   162.   Jeff Northridge @153 00:39  |  GABE1 12/12/07   163.   #147 Robert**OUR ROOTS**HOW RIGHT YOU ARE!! 00:41  |  Kathy 12/12/07   164.   Gabe1 - My previous responses to you were not posted, so I`ll 00:46  |  Smadar 12/12/07   165.   # 138 Stanley..WHAT IS THE CHRISTIAN POPULATION WORLD WIDE? 01:01  |  Kathy 12/12/07   166.   Smadar-Where should I be????? 01:03  |  Gabe1 12/12/07   167.   # 103 issy hass..THE MANY TIMES I HAVE SAID THE SAME?? 01:07  |  Kathy 12/12/07   168.   #87 Yes Tosefta 01:12  |  ballistic 12/12/07   169.   Yes to Palestinian concessions on hebron! 01:28  |  Dr Eric 12/12/07   170.   Jabo on pretense 01:29  |  BBSNews 12/12/07   171.   they can have arab neighboorhoodsin jerusalem! 01:40  |  dr eric 12/12/07   172.   NO-NO-NO-NO 01:52  |  Dr David I. Gross 12/12/07   173.   Yaakov Sullivan - are you blind - ignorant - or just - 01:59  |  Dr David I. Gross 12/12/07   174.   Indy @ 93, No, not this time, but WOW what a compliment!!! 02:00  |  Virgy 12/12/07   175.   Arabs should be making concessions for peace. 02:20  |  Chaim 12/12/07   176.   Gabe1 # 162 You`re Welcome 02:21  |  Jeff Northridge 12/12/07   177.   #158 Kathy- Under every chuppah, rabbis announce during a 02:22  |  Smadar 12/12/07   178.   Haaretz where is my post to Jacob,and Efraim? 02:25  |  JOSH 12/12/07   179.   SMADAR #164 03:06  |  GABE1 12/12/07   180.   `Holy stones` of potential Gaza look-alike 03:11  |  TonyL 12/12/07   181.   77Paul Wood,quite right,jerusalem was a corpus separatum & israel 03:21  |  lakshmi 12/12/07   182.   77Paul Wood. . .The Arabs rejected it,but it is not relevant to 03:30  |  lakshmi 12/12/07   183.   Is Haaretz trying to say something? 03:33  |  Tim Burke 12/12/07   184.   # 174, VIRGINIA 03:55  |  indrajaya 12/12/07   185.   Psalm 83 04:20  |  Walter 12/12/07   186.   Giving up Jeruslaem 04:41  |  Adam 12/12/07   187.   Giving up Jeruslaem 04:42  |  Adam 12/12/07   188.   Giving up Jeruslaem 04:50  |  Adam 12/12/07   189.   What Jersualem means to Arabs 04:52  |  Chick 12/12/07   190.   Dr. David I. Gross (Post No. 173) 04:59  |  Johnny Weintraub 12/12/07   191.   #135 Mike the American?? 05:25  |  * BEN JABO 12/12/07   192.   @139, tadchase, if it is so boring why you are here? 05:59  |  vladimir 12/12/07   193.   Jerusalem as a whole, Capital city of Israel. 06:04  |  Yohan Dahal 12/12/07   194.   #179 Gabe1 06:25  |  Smadar 12/12/07   195.   Jabo on freedom 06:27  |  BBSNews 12/12/07   196.   BBS Jerusalem 06:49  |  Mark T 12/12/07   197.   Jerusalem: small and indivisible piece of land 06:57  |  Yohan Dahal 12/12/07   198.   Jerusalem as a whole, Capital city of Israel. 07:13  |  Yohan Dahal 12/12/07   199.   Mark T - BBS Jerusalem 08:35  |  BBSNews 12/12/07   200.   #2: What do you want in Shu`fat or Sheikh Jarah? 08:55  |  Markus Grafenburg 12/12/07   201.   Chaim #175 is RIGHT - ARABS MAKE CONCessions!!! 09:07  |  Dr Eric 12/12/07   202.   WE NEED BIBI URGENTLY!!! 09:09  |  DR ERIC 12/12/07   203.   Interesting - when Israel starts attacking!!! 09:12  |  Dr Eric 12/12/07   204.   Markus G -what about KIRYAT ARBA??? 09:26  |  Dr Eric 12/12/07   205.   Meaningless demagogy 09:43  |  Victor 12/12/07   206.   BBS 12:57  |  Mark T 12/12/07   207.   Mark T - BBS Jerusalem 19:38  |  BBSNews 12/12/07   208.   departing from the west bank will lead to more kassams 05:26  |  uzi 13/12/07   209.   #208 uzi - Arab Iniative and no `kassams` 07:30  |  BBSNews 13/12/07   210.   #208 uzi - Arab Iniative and no `kassams` - 2nd try 08:24  |  BBSNews 13/12/07   211.   To Ben Uziel 10:21  |  Theodore 13/12/07   212.   NO COMPROMISE ON ANYTHING LEAST OF ALL JERUSALEM 23:39  |  D.Stroyah 20/12/07

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