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Vatican envoy: Ties with Israel in decline due to broken promises
By News Agencies
Tags: Church property 

Relations between Israel and the Vatican "were better" before the two established full diplomatic ties in 1993, according to a senior Vatican diplomat and former top Holy See envoy to Jerusalem.

Israel has also failed to keep promises to ease travel restrictions on Catholic clerics and remove taxes on Church-owned property in the Holy Land, Monsignor Pietro Sambi said in an interview posted Friday on the Franciscan Order's terrasanta.net Web site.

"The Holy See decided to establish diplomatic relations (in 1993) with Israel as an act of faith, leaving to latter the serious promises to regulate concrete aspects of the life of the Catholic community and the Church in Israel," Sambi, the Papal Nuncio to the United States, said.
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"If I must be frank, the relations between the Catholic Church and the state of Israel were better when there were no diplomatic ties," he continued.

Among the issues hanging are the status of expropriated church property, services that Catholic groups perform for Israel's Jewish and Arab population, and tax exemptions for the Church.

The Vatican diplomat also cited a current sore point - the granting of permits for Arab Christian clergy traveling to and around the West Bank, which has rescinded because of security concerns.

Sambi complained that the Knesset has failed to give necessary approval to various accords that had been signed by both sides, and noted that an impasse over taxes has been discussed on and off for nearly 10 years without resolution.

He blamed the situation on Israel's absence of political will. "Everyone can see what kind of trust you can give to Israel's promises," Sambi said.

Asked about Sambi's criticisms, Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev said that "Israel is interested in good relations with the Vatican and Israeli and Vatican officials are working to overcome gaps that exist."

Vatican spokesman the Rev. Federico Lombardi said the interview with Sambi reflects his thinking and his personal experience during the diplomat's former posting in Israel.

Lombardi said the Holy See reiterated the hope, expressed in September when Benedict met with President Shimon Peres, for a rapid conclusion of the important negotiations and a common solution to existing problems.

Earlier this year, tensions developed between the Vatican and Israel when the Holy See's ambassador to Israel initially decided to boycott a Holocaust memorial service because of allegations that during World War II Pope Pius XII was silent about the mass killings of Jews.

While Israel has in the past offered to create a special panel to oversee property cases involving the Vatican, it has also expressed fear that giving tax exemptions to the Catholic Church could open the door for other churches and groups to seek similar treatment.


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      1.   Note to Vatican: Once they have it in their hands, it`s theirs 19:50  |  Natallie Durson 16/11/07
      2.   Services rendered? Is this a comedy routine? 20:07  |  McQueen 16/11/07
      3.   Israel and Catholics 20:09  |  American Catholic 16/11/07
      4.   Vatican Was Foolish To Trust Israel 20:18  |  Lev Bronstein 16/11/07
      5.   And just ask "Natalie" about those... 20:19  |  Tom 16/11/07
      6.   Nothing new here 20:19  |  Don Camillo 16/11/07
      7.   Whatever 20:22  |  Josh 16/11/07
      8.   To Natallie #1 -- I think you have the sides confused 20:25  |  Josh 16/11/07
      9.   Vatican - What a Joke!!! 20:27  |  Jason 16/11/07
      10.   tridentine mass hurts relations more 20:28  |  Polybios 16/11/07
      11.   what about promises of the catholic church? 20:31  |  topanga 16/11/07
      12.   Vatican 20:34  |  Brad 16/11/07
      13.   " Church property unjustly expropriated or subjected to unjust.." 20:35  |  ZADOK 16/11/07
      14.   After all the years of Catholic oppression and snobbery... 20:39  |  Tom 16/11/07
      15.   Josh - the jews live with the Christians AND have religious 20:42  |  Ask a Ninja 16/11/07
      16.   LOL 20:44  |  rich 16/11/07
      17.   Good 20:49  |  Colin Wright 16/11/07
      18.   #6 Did you actually read the article? 20:50  |  Outsider 16/11/07
      19.   The gold and silver of the second Temple..... 20:51  |  Shalom 16/11/07
      20.   Israel, would you please pay...... 20:54  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/11/07
      21.   Eye to Eye at the same level 20:56  |  Jacob 16/11/07
      22.   Lev Bronstein #3 - you`re the "foolish one" 20:59  |  Polybios 16/11/07
      23.   #10 Topanga 21:01  |  Chris Linthwaite 16/11/07
      24.   What "services rendered"? 21:05  |  Gili 16/11/07
      25.   Vatican isn`t a joke Jason #8 21:08  |  Pierre 16/11/07
      26.   Israel treats christians just as badly as they treat Muslims 21:15  |  Steve 16/11/07
      27.   VATICAN 21:18  |  Roberto 16/11/07
      28.   Reply to # 11 and 8 21:20  |  Tony 16/11/07
      29.   the vatican 21:20  |  jp 16/11/07
      30.   Lev Bronstein 21:22  |  Mohammed Abdul 16/11/07
      31.   ZADOK - Then every Catholic Nation should 21:25  |  Deal Maker 16/11/07
      32.   Ethnic cleansing 21:27  |  Kevin 16/11/07
      33.   CATHOLIC CHURCH 21:35  |  Baruch Hashem 16/11/07
      34.   ZADOK has it right 21:38  |  Gee 16/11/07
      35.   Yeah, nice to see good ole Catholic Church true to form 21:41  |  Mayence 16/11/07
      36.   Good grief, what a pack of nutjobs 21:48  |  Michael Steiner 16/11/07
      37.   "Security concerns"?: Yeah, priests pose a great threat. 21:51  |  peacelover 16/11/07
      38.   Vatican should be worrying over conduct off bad presits not Israe 21:59  |  Kipperraes 16/11/07
      39.   Their Trademark 21:59  |  JJ 16/11/07
      40.   Finally Some Good News! 22:01  |  Brad 16/11/07
      41.   Vatican still pro-PA and anti-Israel; still has dhimmi attitude 22:08  |  Reuven 16/11/07
      42.   How Many Divisions Does the Pope Have? 22:09  |  Robert 16/11/07
      43.   Let the Vatican return property THEY stole 22:10  |  Judith 16/11/07
      44.   Brad: Your anti-Catholic attitude is akin to the 22:14  |  John Kennedy 16/11/07
      45.   Israel is not better than Turkey 22:16  |  Fritz Teich 16/11/07
      46.   Nothing Against Catholics 22:25  |  Ron 16/11/07
      47.   zadok 12 22:34  |  realism 16/11/07
      48.   To Judith 22:43  |  jpudentain 16/11/07
      49.   Catholic Guilliani for President 22:49  |  Voter 16/11/07
      50.   Next time, get it in writing...he he hi hi he he he ha ha ha 22:58  |  Scott Hunter 16/11/07
      51.   Majority of US Supreme Court Judges are Catholic 22:58  |  William Buckley 16/11/07
      52.   #40 Judith, the Pope would not return anything. 23:03  |  ballistic 16/11/07
      53.   Vatican in no position to criticise 23:09  |  Morris Valentine 16/11/07
      54.   The Day of the Dragon 23:25  |  Brod 16/11/07
      55.   Realism #44 - Proof is in the pudding 23:25  |  Jason 16/11/07
      56.   Who needs the Vatican? 23:26  |  Alex 16/11/07
      57.   Would the Pope Divide The Vatican? 23:33  |  Sarah 16/11/07
      58.   FIRST LOWER TAXES FOR ISRAELI CITIZENS!!! 23:38  |  B`Galil 16/11/07
      59.   to ZADOK - What of the improvements to Aelia Capitolina 23:47  |  plebian 16/11/07
      60.   So much for Vatican diplomacy 23:51  |  Jake 16/11/07
      61.   Don Camillo, peddling in hypocrisy as usual 23:58  |  Jake 16/11/07
      62.   Rome`s Booty (realism, et. al) 00:00  |  ZADOK 17/11/07
      63.   Vatican prefers the pre-Oslo days, with good reason 00:22  |  Jake 17/11/07
      64.   I am an American catholic 00:41  |  Steve 17/11/07
      65.   Ballistic 48 How dare you! 01:06  |  ChanahS 17/11/07
      66.   jason 51 01:40  |  realism 17/11/07
      67.   Ballistic from Henderson, response 01:47  |  Smearnov 17/11/07
      68.   Sarah 02:33  |  Terry 17/11/07
      69.   Steve: What are you talking about? 03:12  |  Catholic American 17/11/07
      70.   VATICAN: the most antisemite organization 03:32  |  alvaro 17/11/07
      71.   #1 03:44  |  Moshe 17/11/07
      72.   NO GOOD WITH MUSLIMS, NO GOOD WITH JEWS 03:56  |  indrajaya 17/11/07
      73.   Read Constantine`s Sword for a Clear View on Vatican Hand in Shoa 04:18  |  mea too 17/11/07
      74.   Vatican`s claims 04:26  |  Philippe 17/11/07
      75.   Deteriorating ties 04:29  |  Philippe 17/11/07
      76.   #23 04:36  |  Moshe 17/11/07
      77.   Tax Them More, They Own US 05:54  |  Dave Levy 17/11/07
      78.   Israel has every right to be cautious here. 06:05  |  Virginia 17/11/07
      79.   teh current government of Israel 06:13  |  Mark Lincoln 17/11/07
      80.   American Catholic 06:21  |  ConnieM. 17/11/07
      81.   Vatican same as Arabs 06:25  |  Chick 17/11/07
      82.   #37 Peacelover 06:33  |  Franco 17/11/07
      83.   @65, chanas, ballistic is macaca according to brain power 06:40  |  v 17/11/07
      84.   to #3 catholic 06:41  |  bri 17/11/07
      85.   # 69, If America is the rise of the Roman Impire, I`m outta here! 06:43  |  Virginia 17/11/07
      86.   Israeli security officials heve been terrible.... 07:07  |  Dutch 17/11/07
      87.   Catholics everywhere should see what the jews think of Catholics 07:08  |  Crusader 17/11/07
      88.   Photo 07:24  |  Chris 17/11/07
      89.   #65, ChanahS... 07:57  |  Silvienne 17/11/07
      90.   David Levy #77 08:02  |  Brod 17/11/07
      91.   Another American Catholic 08:35  |  Gary 17/11/07
      92.   The Vatican, the Pope and the rest.. 08:39  |  Nephtaly 17/11/07
      93.   #43 The return of stolen property... 09:02  |  Maureen Ann 17/11/07
      94.   Another Blunder By The Vatican 09:04  |  Yosemite 17/11/07
      95.   The Catholic Beast # 78 09:05  |  Shekinah 17/11/07
      96.   Maureen Ann - Aboriginal Justice 09:39  |  Ruth 17/11/07
      97.   #92 The Vatican do not talks so much crap 09:52  |  kraut 17/11/07
      98.   Actually this is pretty serious "stuff" for Israel..... 10:07  |  Swiss (Dino) 17/11/07
      99.   to all the loyal catholics 10:31  |  Dror 17/11/07
      100.   MAY BE A COMPENSATION FOR THE THOUSANDS OF JEWS KILLED AND STOLEN 11:04  |  Alain 17/11/07
      101.   Vatican`s bank ties with maffia can bring money back 11:05  |  Alain 17/11/07
      102.   benefits for confessions here 11:14  |  italian tax payer 17/11/07
      103.   Little completion to my # 98 11:14  |  Swiss (Dino) 17/11/07
      104.   # 26 12:43  |  Christian Van Nieker 17/11/07
      105.   #96, RUTH and her lies 13:05  |  VIPER 17/11/07
      106.   VATICAN KNOWS ABOUT BROKEN PROMISES 13:16  |  Q.Ears 17/11/07
      107.   #38 Rabbi`s guilty of same offenses 13:20  |  pot calls kettle blk 17/11/07
      108.   Christians in Israel and Palestine 13:38  |  F 17/11/07
      109.   Crusader is a muslim 14:07  |  Dror 17/11/07
      110.   When is a promise not a promise? When made by Israel 14:13  |  Natallie Durson 17/11/07
      111.   LOL #30 14:31  |  D.R. Zukerman 17/11/07
      112.   Israeli LIES 14:33  |  POP 17/11/07
      113.   Tony #28 14:41  |  D.R. Zukerman 17/11/07
      114.   And, Natallie (#110)... 14:45  |  D.R. Zukerman 17/11/07
      115.   # 87, This would be an easy union-as neither read the Word 14:48  |  Virginia 17/11/07
      116.   Always say no and they will respect you 14:56  |  Bonheur 17/11/07
      117.   #110 nutullie ther are no illegal outposts in israel 15:01  |  victor hardman 17/11/07
      118.   Vatican 15:28  |  Brad 17/11/07
      119.   dear vatican, return the temple relics you looted first! 15:29  |  Michelle 17/11/07
      120.   AMERICAN CATHOLIC WRONG SERMON, WRONG CROWD 15:33  |  Petra 17/11/07
      121.   " Blessed Teresa " the Saint Was BETRAYED by the Vatican 15:40  |  Klaudia 17/11/07
      122.   Broken Promises by the Church Too 15:41  |  B.U.Mbandit 17/11/07
      123.   LEV THE ANTI ISRAEL ANTI G-D POSTER 15:42  |  Petra 17/11/07
      124.   WHATEVER JOSH. AMEN BUDDY! 15:47  |  Petra 17/11/07
      125.   Stop looking 4 friends via enemies of your enemy. Find your 15:47  |  Virginia 17/11/07
      126.   Josh maybe the Muslims can `visit` and destroy the Vatican? 15:50  |  Petra 17/11/07
      127.   Topanga, Amen buddy! 15:58  |  Petra 17/11/07
      128.   BINGO BRAD!!!!!!!! aABSOLUTE TRUTH THERE BUDDY THANKS!!!! SHALOM 16:00  |  Petra 17/11/07
      129.   Jesus never went to Rome and Catholics never believed truth 16:03  |  Petra 17/11/07
      130.   This pope 16:04  |  David 17/11/07
      131.   LOL GUESS RELATIONS ARE EQUAL OR PAR WITH MUSLIMS 16:05  |  Petra 17/11/07
      132.   The Catholics 16:06  |  Sheldon B. 17/11/07
      133.   ISRAEL ALONE AND LOVING IT! 16:07  |  Petra 17/11/07
      134.   #3 It`s called preemptive security and 16:17  |  John Allen 17/11/07
      135.   so the catholics and the vatican dont like jews 16:18  |  papal bull 17/11/07
      136.   Shekinah, my sister through the Word!!! Blessings on this Sabbath 16:20  |  Virginia 17/11/07
      137.   pietro i do hope our brethren in america give you 16:21  |  papal bull 17/11/07
      138.   so are my ties with israel 16:23  |  more important 17/11/07
      139.   pietro is mezzi metti 16:23  |  papal bull 17/11/07
      140.   #29 AMEN AND AMEN!!!!! 16:24  |  Petra 17/11/07
      141.   #33 RE: CATHOLIC CHURCH well said my friend 16:26  |  Petra 17/11/07
      142.   Silvienne 89 16:30  |  ChanahS 17/11/07
      143.   Bethlehem Catholics 16:32  |  Irish Catholic 17/11/07
      144.   An honest question 16:34  |  Irish Catholic 17/11/07
      145.   #37 Get your headout of the sand. 16:41  |  John Allen 17/11/07
      146.   why is it necessary for us to get involved with other religions? 16:42  |  yahn goodey 17/11/07
      147.   Viper # 105 - yeah right! 16:50  |  ChanahS 17/11/07
      148.   #33 bingo!!! YOU GOT IT RIGHT 16:52  |  Petra 17/11/07
      149.   # 107 silly comment 16:52  |  ChanahS 17/11/07
      150.   #34 zadok has it right!! AMEN 16:53  |  Petra 17/11/07
      151.   #29 16:54  |  THE VATICAN EXCELLE 17/11/07
      152.   #29 16:54  |  THE VATICAN EXCELLE 17/11/07
      153.   #22 POLYBIOS AMEN TO THAT !!!!!! I totally gree with you!!! 16:55  |  Petra 17/11/07
      154.   Catholic belief``s are really good stuff. 16:58  |  John Allen 17/11/07
      155.   The vatican should worry 16:59  |  Petra 17/11/07
      156.   American Catholic 17:00  |  Brant 17/11/07
      157.   #65 Golly day, Chanah makes an attempt to chastise me! 17:00  |  ballistic 17/11/07
      158.   #112 POP (Phoney Opressed People) 17:02  |  John Allen 17/11/07
      159.   $1 rueven amen!!!! it`s all papal bull 17:04  |  Petra 17/11/07
      160.   #44 JOHN KENNEDY HATED BEING A CATHOLIC 17:06  |  Petra 17/11/07
      161.   Chanah con`t 17:08  |  ballistic 17/11/07
      162.   #57 Sarah, great thought, excellent in fact!!!! 17:11  |  Petra 17/11/07
      163.   #67 Smearnov 17:16  |  ballistic 17/11/07
      164.   All religious buildings and sites are taxed 17:17  |  Avrum 17/11/07
      165.   #83 Yes "V", those macaccas in 17:20  |  ballistic 17/11/07
      166.   # 144 Irish Catholic, Yes, Chritians and other non-Jewish people 17:22  |  Haham me Bat Yam 17/11/07
      167.   #76 Philipe IT`S JUST MORE PAPAL BULL 17:24  |  Petra 17/11/07
      168.   #69 re: catholicism in America ILLEGAL MEXICANS? 17:31  |  Petra 17/11/07
      169.   Tony #28 History of Money is a good book 17:34  |  topanga 17/11/07
      170.   #95 WONDERFUL EXCELLENT, YOU NAILED IT!!!!!! 17:34  |  Petra 17/11/07
      171.   #101 ALAIN AMEN TO YOU!!!!! 17:37  |  Petra 17/11/07
      172.   #99 tO ALL THE LOYAL CATHOLICS you said it!!!!!! 17:38  |  Petra we3macs@verizo 17/11/07
      173.   #102 ITALIAN TAX PAYER 17:41  |  Petra 17/11/07
      174.   And re: 95, You are right in that neither can be trusted, who can 17:42  |  Virginia 17/11/07
      175.   To #122 Bum Bandit # I agree completely 17:45  |  L.Ongdong 17/11/07
      176.   #118 BRAD BINGO BUDDY! 17:48  |  Petra 17/11/07
      177.   The Vatican should get at gribs with History 17:50  |  Kenneth Ø. Buhl 17/11/07
      178.   BALLISTIC: #163 17:58  |  Brant 17/11/07
      179.   Vatican 18:05  |  Brad 17/11/07
      180.   See, what did I tell yah, Petra is a catholic that woke up. 18:11  |  Dror 17/11/07
      181.   Ballistic # 157 18:13  |  ChanahS 17/11/07
      182.   ballistic in henderson nevada 18:26  |  Dror 17/11/07
      183.   #178 Say Brant down there in SC 18:29  |  ballistic 17/11/07
      184.   say miss ballistic. about John 8:44. part 1 18:39  |  mary for jews 17/11/07
      185.   sis Ballistic, John 8:44 part 2 18:46  |  mary for jews 17/11/07
      186.   # 169 Petra, I`m with you. If the Romen Impire is to rise... 18:50  |  Virginia 17/11/07
      187.   Poor Zakok @ #62 18:52  |  ballistic 17/11/07
      188.   Petra # 167 18:55  |  Philippe 17/11/07
      189.   Children, Children 19:08  |  Aldo 17/11/07
      190.   Sis Ballistic, what say ye of Revelation 7-21? part 3 19:12  |  mary of jews 17/11/07
      191.   Vatican 19:12  |  Brad 17/11/07
      192.   # 179 Brad, Re: Mary Catholic version-the Bible misconstrued 19:39  |  Virginia 17/11/07
      193.   maybe the holy see should see it differently? 20:08  |  the Shaigetz 17/11/07
      194.   AMEN # 180 & 181!!! 20:33  |  Virginia 17/11/07
      195.   Meanwhile, back on Planet Earth... 20:46  |  bemused 17/11/07
      196.   #180 Mary for Jews 20:49  |  ballistic 17/11/07
      197.   Vatican Ties with Israel. 20:52  |  Mr. Kamal Marjieh 17/11/07
      198.   #180 Mary 20:55  |  ballistic 17/11/07
      199.   187, Brad and Dead Sea 20:58  |  Aldo 17/11/07
      200.   HI again Mary 21:02  |  ballistic 17/11/07
      201.   RE#185 21:05  |  Brad 17/11/07
      202.   Ballistic can`t read as usual # 183 21:09  |  ChanahS 17/11/07
      203.   When A Deal Is Not A Deal 21:10  |  viewfromafar 17/11/07
      204.   Dearest Bemused, do check back soon, you see 21:18  |  Virginia 17/11/07
      205.   Ballistic and the word Jew 21:22  |  ChanahS 17/11/07
      206.   Ballistic nonsense 21:25  |  ChanahS 17/11/07
      207.   Re# 179 21:29  |  Brad 17/11/07
      208.   #143 & 144 Irish Catholic 21:33  |  Mordecai Ben Natan 17/11/07
      209.   Irish Catholic 21:37  |  Mordecai Ben Natan 17/11/07
      210.   Petra: No, but Peter did and died in Rome, and Jesus sent him 21:52  |  Ask A Ninja 17/11/07
      211.   Petra: No, but Peter did and died in Rome, and Jesus sent him 21:52  |  Ask A Ninja 17/11/07
      212.   #202 Chanah 22:28  |  balllistic 17/11/07
      213.   #205 Chanah, all everybody has to do is wait. 22:34  |  ballistic 17/11/07
      214.   Wrong Focus 22:38  |  Scrolls 17/11/07
      215.   RE#209 Irish Cat-ho-lic 22:49  |  Brad 17/11/07
      216.   the vatican 23:02  |  stan 17/11/07
      217.   Slowman`s wisdom on skipping posts 23:03  |  Israel Vat 17/11/07
      218.   Ninja, Peter wasn`t Catholic, he was Jewish. AND he was a 23:03  |  Virginia 17/11/07
      219.   zadok 62 23:06  |  realism 17/11/07
      220.   Crusades, Inquisition, Holocaust..shall I go on 23:10  |  Micahyah Dinah 17/11/07
      221.   ballistic # 213 23:12  |  ChanahS 17/11/07
      222.   irish catholic what did your mother tell you about 23:18  |  papal bull 17/11/07
      223.   #201 Your Faith is Incomplete 23:18  |  Scrolls 17/11/07
      224.   Unite with the Christians 23:24  |  Ajay Kaur 17/11/07
      225.   No exemptions, period... 23:39  |  Misha 17/11/07
      226.   ROME IS APOSTATE WORSHIPS QUEEN OF HEAVEN AND OWN DOCTRINE ?? 23:49  |  Bill 17/11/07
      227.   "208Mordecai Ben Natan ill informed. 00:01  |  Labhras 18/11/07
      228.   #215 Brad 00:20  |  Labhras 18/11/07
      229.   #209 Mordecai Ben Natan 00:26  |  Labhras 18/11/07
      230.   The usual crap... 00:40  |  Goldberg 18/11/07
      231.   PERES 1994 LETTER GAVE PAPACY CONTROL OVER TEMPLE MOUNT ?? 00:48  |  Bill 18/11/07
      232.   A few years of goodwill after CENTURIES OF TORTURE 01:17  |  Jon 18/11/07
      233.   # 7& #8 Josh..Durson is Always Confused and Profoundly so. 01:21  |  JOSH 18/11/07
      234.   Labarse # 217 01:24  |  ChanahS 18/11/07
      235.   # 62 ZADOK..Rome`s Booty (realism, et. al) 01:32  |  Josh 18/11/07
      236.   # 52 now,now;ballistic.You Go Too Far..Take It Easy . 01:59  |  Fed-Up 18/11/07
      237.   Vatican manipulatid "peace summit" at Annapolis 02:08  |  Brad 18/11/07
      238.   # 213 ballistic versus Chana.Just stop right there.You Go Too Far 02:14  |  Fed-Up 18/11/07
      239.   wow, Bill, do you really think the pope has that much power? 02:29  |  Virginia 18/11/07
      240.   #Say Fed-up 02:33  |  ballistic 18/11/07
      241.   # For David..This Pope 02:45  |  Fed-Up 18/11/07
      242.   "Ahmadinejad is even working for Pope." What!!?? 03:12  |  Stretching it a bit? 18/11/07
      243.   # 43 which property is that, judith? 03:15  |  eric 18/11/07
      244.   #232 Ballistic 03:32  |  Labhras 18/11/07
      245.   Turn the Other Cheek 03:33  |  Orrei Barasch 18/11/07
      246.   Amazing how some can glory in being the leader of the blind. 03:36  |  It`s laughable 18/11/07
      247.   # 240 ballistic.I DID NOT COMPLAIN AT HAARETZ YOU ARE MISTAKEN.. 03:41  |  Fed-up 18/11/07
      248.   # 240 balistic.I agree it was rather rude and pathetic. 04:01  |  Fed-Up 18/11/07
      249.   NDURSON.See what the Pope quoted about Islam"Evil & Inhuman" 04:05  |  PETER S.M. 18/11/07
      250.   Ballistic - Farakhan`s Mistress and Goon 04:22  |  Eli 18/11/07
      251.   "LBronstein"There has been peace between Israel and Jordan. 04:25  |  PETER S.M. 18/11/07
      252.   To Labhras (Laurel) (#227) 04:55  |  Morris Valentine 18/11/07
      253.   Jew hatred of Christians ok by ADL. 05:01  |  white russian 18/11/07
      254.   Brad: Israel and the Jews are terrorist 05:15  |  Ask A Ninja 18/11/07
      255.   Jews will always be bastards, and the posts here reaffirm this 05:17  |  Soothesayer 18/11/07
      256.   Petra you ignorant fool 05:22  |  Native American 18/11/07
      257.   Petra you ignorant fool 05:22  |  Native American 18/11/07
      258.   ...and then Jews ask Catholic leaders and countries to support 05:25  |  EL Hombre 18/11/07
      259.   Virginia: what are you talking about 05:32  |  Ask A Ninja 18/11/07
      260.   to "brad from mansfield"; throughout this thread 05:41  |  eric 18/11/07
      261.   #48 jputentain 06:07  |  judith 18/11/07
      262.   ballistic 06:15  |  Judith 18/11/07
      263.   For the Native American 06:18  |  Brad 18/11/07
      264.   #230 goldberg and molehills crap again 06:21  |  victor hardman 18/11/07
      265.   Vatican? Bible? 06:39  |  Brad 18/11/07
      266.   RE petra 06:52  |  Brad 18/11/07
      267.   WHITER Russian Quote Hatred by Foxman against Christians! 06:53  |  PETER S.M. 18/11/07
      268.   VATICAN MUST RETURN ALL JEWISH MANUSCRIPTS, PROPERTY CONFISCATED 06:56  |  VOICE of MOSHIACH))) 18/11/07
      269.   SOTHSAYER,Ninja,El Hombre,etc are you all the same person? 06:57  |  PETER S.M. 18/11/07
      270.   INSULTING ISLAM TO ENTERTAIN THE JEWS 07:04  |  indrajaya 18/11/07
      271.   Eric 07:12  |  Brad 18/11/07
      272.   W.Russsian,Ninja,Hombre.Yet they win more Nobel prizes per capita 07:15  |  PETER S.M. 18/11/07
      273.   ERIC you have spoken for Jesus ,the Patriarchs-- 07:21  |  PETER S.M. 18/11/07
      274.   # 209 to mordecai the propaganda pusher 08:12  |  eric 18/11/07
      275.   To Petra`s post # 133 08:47  |  Whiskey Rivers 18/11/07
      276.   HOMBRE.@258Jews do NOT get automatic security clearance. 08:58  |  PETER S.M. 18/11/07
      277.   Does the Holy See make the same demands in Moslem&other countries 09:01  |  PETER SM 18/11/07
      278.   Dissing Cardinal Schonborn at the Kotel may be relevant 09:04  |  DJStahl 18/11/07
      279.   An apology for the Kotel episode would help 09:17  |  DJStahl 18/11/07
      280.   D.CAMILLO Which part of part 1 of the road map are Arabs keeping? 09:17  |  PETER S.M. 18/11/07
      281.   # 168 to petra`s ignorance 09:20  |  eric 18/11/07
      282.   DJ STAHL Commonsense was saddly lacking 09:47  |  PETER S.M. 18/11/07
      283.   INDRAJAYA.Insulting Catholics by murdering a nun in cartoon riots 10:03  |  PETER S.M. 18/11/07
      284.   # 283, PETER SM 10:54  |  indrajaya 18/11/07
      285.   # 273 to peter sm 11:20  |  eric 18/11/07
      286.   #285 Say Eric 12:03  |  ballistic 18/11/07
      287.   #262 Judith 12:04  |  ballistic 18/11/07
      288.   WOW!! 13:45  |  s 18/11/07
      289.   #Say Eli replying to your post 250 re Farrakhan 13:59  |  ballistic 18/11/07
      290.   # 259 Ninja, First of all, Peter was a Jew. Yes, there is a new 16:20  |  Virginia 18/11/07
      291.   Vatican 16:45  |  Brad 18/11/07
      292.   And yes Ninja, the church put the doctrines of the Bible together 17:25  |  Virginia 18/11/07
      293.   "Every other Christian sect CAME OUT OF the Catholic church" 17:50  |  Virginia 18/11/07
      294.   Vatican 18:21  |  Brad 18/11/07
      295.   Ninja you`re a turtle 19:24  |  Shekinah 18/11/07
      296.   Ninja, The darkness of your attire cannot hide you, the sword 20:12  |  Virginia 18/11/07
      297.   The real question of the day is... 20:29  |  Virginia 18/11/07
      298.   # 271 to brad 2nd try 21:54  |  eric 18/11/07
      299.   # 296 to virginia 22:00  |  eric 18/11/07
      300.   So the bottom line to all of this is this... 22:17  |  Virginia 18/11/07
      301.   Eric, I am a fan of Bob Dylan for sure, I grew up to his tunes. 22:22  |  Virginia 18/11/07
      302.   If I could say it over, I would use thre dots...wait I can 22:37  |  Virginia 18/11/07
      303.   Vatican 03:07  |  Bard 19/11/07
      304.   Vatican 17:28  |  TAZ 19/11/07
      305.   to realism 17:55  |  TAZ 19/11/07
      306.   about DYLAN 18:01  |  TAZ 19/11/07
      307.   PAY your TAXES CLERICS 18:51  |  ABEL 24/11/07
      308.   AJAY: Thy self be wary 19:00  |  ABEL 24/11/07
      309.   BRAD: A blessing in disguise 19:05  |  abel 24/11/07
      310.   Anti-Catholicism 13:39  |  Guy 12/01/08
      311.   # 3 America isn`t a catholic nation 15:17  |  Petra 07/02/08
      312.   # 188 Phillipe HAVE YOU SEEN THE MOVIE"THE POPE MUST DIE"?? 15:27  |  Petra 07/02/08
      313.   # 179 Brad NEVER TRUST MEN IN GOWNS 15:29  |  Petra 07/02/08
      314.   # 266 Brad thanks you too amigo! 15:46  |  Petra 07/02/08
      315.   # 265 Brad yes, the vulgate was finally killed 15:57  |  Petra 07/02/08
      316.   # 309 Abel AMEN TO YOUR STATEMENT 16:04  |  Petra 07/02/08
      317.   # 281 Eric America is not Mexico 16:35  |  Petra 07/02/08
      318.   Israel/Vatican - You`re Peppone - Not DonCamillo 21:27  |  The real Don Camillo 10/02/08
      319.   To Josh 12:10  |  Adesh 01/04/08
      320.   #238 DJStahl 05:24  |  Steve P 03/04/08
      321.   Taxes... taxes... 16:38  |  Aryeh Leib 14/01/09
      322.   #80, umm arrogance? 03:52  |  Ackabr 31/03/09
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