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Good news from Gaza
By Gideon Levy
Tags: Hamas, West Bank, Gaza 

The group of reservist paratroopers returned all astir: Hamas fought like an army. The comrades of Sergeant-Major (Res.) Ehud Efrati, who fell in a battle in Gaza about two weeks ago, told Amos Harel that "in all parameters, we are facing an army, not gangs." The soldiers of the Israel Defense Forces were impressed by their enemy's night vision equipment, the tactical space they kept between one another - and their pants even had elastic bands to make them fit snugly around their boots. This is good news from Gaza.

First, it is good that reservists were sent on this mission because "if these missions were left to the regular soldiers, no one on the home front would understand what's happening in Gaza," one of them said. Indeed, the time has come for the soldiers to speak out. But the news the soldiers brought is also encouraging on several other levels. According to their descriptions, a Palestinian Defense Force has emerged. Instead of a rabble of armed gangs, an orderly army is coalescing that is prepared to defend its land. If it makes do with a defensive deployment against Israeli incursions, we will again have no moral claim against them: Hamas is entitled to defend Gaza, just as the IDF is entitled to defend Israel.

The coalescence of an army also ensures that if Israel tries to reach an accord with the Hamas government - the one and only way to stop the firing of Qassams - there will be someone in Gaza to prevent the firing. An armed and organized address in the chaos of Gaza also means good news for Israel. But the respect the reservists felt for the way Hamas fought is liable to trickle down deeper. "The Palestinians never looked like this," the surprised soldiers told Haaretz. Perhaps we will finally stop calling them "terrorists" and refer to them as "fighters." A bit of respect for the Palestinians and, in particular, an end to our dehumanization of them is liable to mark the beginning of a new chapter.
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Furthermore, the fact an army has arisen in Gaza, if this assessment is correct, is liable to prevent another large-scale, ground-based military operation with its many casualties and futility. Perhaps the reservists' reports will dissuade the defense minister from carrying out his plan to conquer Gaza and will motivate Israel to try, for the first time, a different approach with Hamas - negotiations. Only the recognition of Hamas' strength is liable to persuade Israel to be cautious about another operation, and only its military buildup will make us understand the full stupidity of the boycott policy that was designed to weaken Hamas.

We have always acted this way. Without violent Palestinian resistance, life in occupying Israel is great and no one pays any attention to the need to end the occupation. No resistance - no Palestinians. No terrorism - no progress. If not for the Qassams, no one would give any thought to life in Gaza after the disengagement. Ours is a country that has been ready to make concessions only after blood is spilled. Since the interim accords following the Yom Kippur War and through the withdrawal from Lebanon and the disengagement, Israel has needed a relatively strong enemy to get its act together. If not for Hezbollah, we would still be in Lebanon; if not for Hamas, we would still be in Gaza.

Now the time has come for the next chapter: Did we think leaving Gaza and imprisoning it was enough for life in Israel to be hunky-dory? Hamas comes along and reminds us that this does not suffice. The West Bank is quiet in the meantime? Until an organized and strong resistance movement is revived there, we will not consider evacuating even one little outpost. We will conduct talks every two weeks with Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, we will go to Annapolis, but we will not discuss, heaven forbid, the "core" issues there. And our terrific lives will continue, while in the West Bank the masses will crowd together at the checkpoints for hours, be subject to humiliation and risk their lives every time they go outside.

These words are not meant to encourage another wave of Palestinian terror. They are intended to try to motivate us, for the first time, to move beyond our usual habits and reach the conclusion - this time without bloodshed - that the occupation cannot continue forever. Perhaps the news about the elastic bands on the Hamas men's pants will do it for us, and the next cycle of violence will be averted.
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  1.   Levy, How do you accommodate with Hamas charter? 09:14  |  Rob 11/11/07
  2.   IT`S STRONG, THEREFORE IT`S EXIST 09:17  |  indrajaya 11/11/07
  3.   Another Low For Levy 09:28  |  Ron 11/11/07
  4.   The Arabs must make very painful concessions for real peace: 09:36  |  Uzi 11/11/07
  5.   There can never be any separate Arab polity west of the Jordan: 09:38  |  Uzi 11/11/07
  6.   Left loss of credibility 09:45  |  Efraim 11/11/07
  7.   It seems that for Levi the objective is not peace 09:52  |  Logician 11/11/07
  8.   Stupid, greedy Israel only concedes when it is made to 10:08  |  Clickfool 11/11/07
  9.   Gideon Levy as usual 10:16  |  Igal Azuelos 11/11/07
  10.   Cowardly ole Ron # 3 10:31  |  Clickfool 11/11/07
  11.   # 4 - First win the war, then make demands 10:43  |  Velvl Shmerlson 11/11/07
  12.   liberal supporting intolerence??? 10:47  |  Dr Eric 11/11/07
  13.   to Gideon Levy 11:00  |  Judah N. Wenkel 11/11/07
  14.   Rob, how about The Talmud, how about Eretz 11:21  |  Paul 11/11/07
  15.   You`re losing, Gideon 11:24  |  Existential 11/11/07
  16.   CFOOL.UNSCR1701 as requested. Note " unconditional release" 12:13  |  PETER SM 11/11/07
  17.   Hams should simply takeover Gaza,the time for reflections even 12:23  |  lakshmi 11/11/07
  18.   Pretty weak, Peter SM # 16 12:28  |  Clickfool 11/11/07
  19.   to #`s 1 & 3 and any others too blind to see 12:29  |  eric 11/11/07
  20.   Gideon`s Dad had rejoiced at Hitler`s strength,until 12:32  |  Absolute Sweden 11/11/07
  21.   Occupation versus Terror 12:39  |  Ben - Farfel Africa 11/11/07
  22.   PAUL.LIST"a dozen political parties who believe in Israel from -- 12:57  |  PETER SM 11/11/07
  23.   Surrender All of Israel 13:29  |  Daniel Wein 11/11/07
  24.   Gideon Levy as usual: smart and courageous 13:43  |  Pierre 11/11/07
  25.   Hamas Is More Effective At Killing Jews 13:43  |  Moshe 11/11/07
  26.   to Dr. Eric # 12 13:45  |  Judah N. Wenkel 11/11/07
  27.   Levy Articulates What Hamas Thinks 14:23  |  Jane 11/11/07
  28.   Seal Gideon in Gaza with Hamas and Flatten it IAF! 14:25  |  Mark Hamil 11/11/07
  29.   Oy Givalt,Hamas is a fully fledged army 14:37  |  Yoav Naor 11/11/07
  30.   Great news: hamas has an army to attack Israel (!!!) 14:38  |  KUTW 11/11/07
  31.   Stop incursions and pound from the air and sea 14:40  |  KUTW 11/11/07
  32.   Hamas is still a TERRORIST organization 14:44  |  Josh 11/11/07
  33.   Hamas solution is not through accords but through jihad 14:45  |  KUTW 11/11/07
  34.   Good news Levy - keep the rockets coming 14:47  |  Zev 11/11/07
  35.   On recognition 14:49  |  KUTW 11/11/07
  36.   it wasn`t israel that refused the 1947 lines 15:02  |  2 german lakshmi 11/11/07
  37.   indrajay # 2 does that mean hamas is strong enough to fight like 15:08  |  terrornator 11/11/07
  38.   Iranian militarily well-trained TERRORISTS nevertheless. 15:09  |  Fortuna Benmayor 11/11/07
  39.   Alas our generals will not rest until they get rockets flying on 15:10  |  www.kibush.co.il 11/11/07
  40.   qassams is peaceful "resistance" 15:18  |  KUTW 11/11/07
  41.   Gideon Levy supports the qassam-launchings 15:21  |  KUTW 11/11/07
  42.   # 37, TERRORNATOR 15:21  |  indrajaya 11/11/07
  43.   Terrorist to fighter 15:23  |  howiej 11/11/07
  44.   Ha`Aretz moronic twaddle 15:25  |  Arik Yacobi 11/11/07
  45.   #37 Bravo! NOW, FOR THE ANSWER 15:36  |  Petra 11/11/07
  46.   gideon is awesome 15:40  |  moses mujahid 11/11/07
  47.   "No terrorism - no progress" (G. Levy dixit) 16:00  |  KUTW 11/11/07
  48.   ISRAEL DOES RECOGNISE HAMAS 16:03  |  Jason 11/11/07
  49.   KUTW joins the other dandelion, Ron # 31 16:06  |  Clickfool 11/11/07
  50.   It is Hezbollah that attacks Israel 16:08  |  KUTW 11/11/07
  51.   For 2 German Lakshmi # 36 16:09  |  Clickfool 11/11/07
  52.   If not for Hamas 16:11  |  KUTW 11/11/07
  53.   So should Israel have left Gaza or not? 16:13  |  KUTW 11/11/07
  54.   The West Bank is quiet? 16:15  |  KUTW 11/11/07
  55.   #31 KUTW is showing her real `terrorist` colours 16:24  |  Mark B. 11/11/07
  56.   49.Clickfool: I have joined Gideon Levy 16:28  |  KUTW 11/11/07
  57.   Well done the reservists 16:51  |  Nick Ferriman 11/11/07
  58.   #57 nick and the suprise that opponents have guns and know how t 17:07  |  victor hardman 11/11/07
  59.   The clouds of war. 17:08  |  Stephen 11/11/07
  60.   Gideon Levy, An Army on both fronts 17:16  |  Dutch 11/11/07
  61.   55.Mark B.: Terrorize the terrorists 17:18  |  KUTW 11/11/07
  62.   OCCUPATION 17:23  |  Samer 11/11/07
  63.   How can the subjugation of an entire people... 17:33  |  Reader 11/11/07
  64.   ron 3 17:36  |  realism 11/11/07
  65.   Gideon Lewy- 150% correct 17:41  |  Michael N 11/11/07
  66.   #60doris and vain hopes of victory for terrorists 17:43  |  victor hardman 11/11/07
  67.   Another Great Article 17:43  |  Arad 11/11/07
  68.   How on Earth can the Palestinian Arabs Survive Without Israel ? 17:43  |  Reader 11/11/07
  69.   yoav naor 29 17:49  |  realism 11/11/07
  70.   Reader from Edmonton 18:03  |  Another reader 11/11/07
  71.   Levy`s wishful thinking (if thinking is the word) 18:09  |  Mark Lincoln 11/11/07
  72.   A Proud Gideon 18:09  |  Ron 11/11/07
  73.   65Michael N. agree with your comments,except that 242&338 18:12  |  lakshmi 11/11/07
  74.   Actually Gideon Levy - Terrorists Are Much More Dangerous Than A 18:14  |  Eli 11/11/07
  75.   obvious 18:15  |  khairi janbek 11/11/07
  76.   Hamas strength and the killing of Israeli cows 18:16  |  Jonathan S 11/11/07
  77.   Whether occupied (J/S) or liberated (Gaza) , the Pals want blood 18:16  |  Jason 11/11/07
  78.   happy about your enemys stregnth ???????? 18:17  |  tony 11/11/07
  79.   39www.kibush.co.il will not rest until Sharia laws in Israel 18:21  |  Rob 11/11/07
  80.   Hamas More Effective At Defending Gaza Perhaps 18:26  |  Reader 11/11/07
  81.   27 Jane of Palm Beach 18:29  |  Mark of Lewiston 11/11/07
  82.   14Paul (no city) Spreading the BIG LIE 18:31  |  Rob 11/11/07
  83.   maybe the 5th intifada would use dirty bombs. 18:37  |  charlie 11/11/07
  84.   The world according to Gidy,Every terrorist gets 18:53  |  TOMY 11/11/07
  85.   IDF shoud liquidate Hamas raze Gaza 19:04  |  Alexander 11/11/07
  86.   65.Michael N. Correct? 19:22  |  KUTW 11/11/07
  87.   Wow, Gideon Levy just writes pro-Hamas propaganda pieces 19:38  |  Steve Randolph 11/11/07
  88.   2- Indrajaya 19:42  |  Nicolas from Paris 11/11/07
  89.   Israelis: Reminder that Gideon Levy is your enemy, as is Haaretz 19:46  |  Steve Randolph 11/11/07
  90.   Listen to Levy 19:47  |  Janice 11/11/07
  91.   Rob, Hamas Charter ... 19:50  |  Bernie 11/11/07
  92.   Israel only Responds to Force 19:56  |  Bernie 11/11/07
  93.   Gideon Levy strikes again 20:16  |  Steven 11/11/07
  94.   Haaretz encourages Yerida... 20:31  |  3-ha-ha 11/11/07
  95.   # 57 Nick Ferriman. DON`T BE DELUDED ,,,, 20:52  |  Fed-Up 11/11/07
  96.   If only Gideon Levy could lead Israel. 20:59  |  Deborah 11/11/07
  97.   Israel leaving Gaza exposed Hamas as it truly is 21:03  |  Gina 11/11/07
  98.   Gideon Levy being Gideon Levy 21:15  |  Ofer Maimon 11/11/07
  99.   Israel is a bully State,preys on the weak 21:39  |  Labhras 11/11/07
  100.   #26 Judah N Wenkel 21:58  |  Labhras 11/11/07
  101.   #69 fed up 22:04  |  Labhras 11/11/07
  102.   Levy, withh all due respect your logic is in a 22:12  |  Haham me Bat Yam 11/11/07
  103.   71Deborah Did you read the Hamas charter? 22:23  |  Rob 11/11/07
  104.   14Paul (no city) Spreading the BIG LIE. SECOND TRY 22:36  |  Rob 11/11/07
  105.   To clickfool and indrajera 22:39  |  leo 11/11/07
  106.   Hey Janice no.71 - They want to destroy Israel 22:45  |  Steve Randolph 11/11/07
  107.   "what is your religion" the masked killers asked the bus driver 22:46  |  papal bull 11/11/07
  108.   how was it possible that the vatican knowing 22:49  |  papal bull 11/11/07
  109.   #79time for labarse to get with it ! 22:53  |  victor hardman 11/11/07
  110.   72Bernie, Hamas Charter: Read it! 23:03  |  Rob 11/11/07
  111.   #36 2 german lakshmi is worth a laugh 23:08  |  Johnboy 11/11/07
  112.   75Bernie In 67, Israel invaded Syria because Syria started a war 23:15  |  Rob 11/11/07
  113.   #104 Victor Paul harrishead 23:32  |  Labhras 11/11/07
  114.   Without Hamas, gazans would be buried in Euros and dollars 00:08  |  Voice of Reason 12/11/07
  115.   # 102 dear Haham me Bat Yam.WITH ALL DUE RESPECT? 00:14  |  Fed-Up 12/11/07
  116.   # 108 papal bull..Did you read my mention of the... 00:22  |  Fed-Up 12/11/07
  117.   HATE!!!!! 00:26  |  MELANIE 12/11/07
  118.   Rob - and reality deficit syndrome 00:31  |  Mark Lincoln 12/11/07
  119.   #112 Rob In Ann Arbor---confused 01:00  |  Labhras 12/11/07
  120.   WHERE is" PAUL".Another hit&run spin doctor for the Arabs 01:06  |  PETER SM 12/11/07
  121.   #112 Warfare resumed in 67... Also #89 01:38  |  D.R. Zukerman 12/11/07
  122.   116Mark You still agree with the fact I gave. 01:51  |  Rob 12/11/07
  123.   #114 fed up wants to know about pedophile Rabbis 01:55  |  Labhras 12/11/07
  124.   117Labhras Confused. My facts are correct. 02:00  |  Rob 12/11/07
  125.   #114 fed up per your request. 02:06  |  Labhras 12/11/07
  126.   111Johnboy Wrong on 2 points: 02:20  |  Rob 12/11/07
  127.   clickfool,labhras,dutch et al 02:29  |  Connie 12/11/07
  128.   Bob and Hamas Charter 02:30  |  Tony C 12/11/07
  129.   Many thanks Johnboy #111 02:40  |  D.R. Zukerman 12/11/07
  130.   #111 Johnboys twisting of facts well known 02:40  |  TOMY 12/11/07
  131.   Rob, What Should they Call It 02:42  |  Bernie 12/11/07
  132.   Rob, Check your Facts 02:46  |  Bernie 12/11/07
  133.   #113 Rob is rather misleading 03:05  |  Johnboy 12/11/07
  134.   127Tony C. Hamas charter is a single, agreed on, document 03:19  |  Rob 12/11/07
  135.   # 115 MELANIE HATE!!!!! 03:25  |  Fed-Up 12/11/07
  136.   You Israel-haters are turning talkback into a history discussion 03:25  |  Steve Randolph 12/11/07
  137.   G Levy=Olaf... 03:27  |  Harry 12/11/07
  138.   #132Johnboy is quite misleading 03:35  |  Rob 12/11/07
  139.   #65 Michael N 03:39  |  Daybreak 12/11/07
  140.   #125 Rob is wrong on both counts 03:40  |  Johnboy 12/11/07
  141.   Israel must seize the opportunity of War with the State of Gaza. 03:40  |  Akram Zekaria 12/11/07
  142.   131Bernie, No Red Herrings, please 03:52  |  Rob 12/11/07
  143.   #128 How very 19th century of you, D.R. Zukerman 04:02  |  Johnboy 12/11/07
  144.   journalistic ignorance 04:06  |  Mark 12/11/07
  145.   #129 This is very, very simple, TOMY 04:13  |  Johnboy 12/11/07
  146.   130Bernie Call a spade a spade. 04:14  |  Rob 12/11/07
  147.   #111 So Johnboy tries another lie,saying 04:18  |  TOMY 12/11/07
  148.   127Tony C. Hamas charter is a single, agreed on, document 04:18  |  Rob 12/11/07
  149.   A "deal" can only exist between parties who respect each other. 04:36  |  a wandering Jew 12/11/07
  150.   Hamas only strenght: Hiding among civilians 04:40  |  Daniel 12/11/07
  151.   Clickfool, "The Tactition" 05:00  |  Peter 12/11/07
  152.   #147 TOMY not the brightest of sparks 05:07  |  Johnboy 12/11/07
  153.   140 Johnboys twisting, both my words and Khartoum declaration 05:09  |  Rob 12/11/07
  154.   Well, Giddy, the only thing to negotiate with pal`s... 05:10  |  Misha 12/11/07
  155.   Another Reader from Edmonton 05:19  |  Reader 12/11/07
  156.   #138 Says who, Rob. 05:22  |  Johnboy 12/11/07
  157.   145Johnboys new legal definition: ?The Arabs?. 05:31  |  Rob 12/11/07
  158.   Hamas and Expansiosm 05:38  |  Tony C 12/11/07
  159.   #139 Daybreak 05:40  |  Michael N 12/11/07
  160.   128 Johnboys definitions of Casus Beli (Cause for war) 05:47  |  Rob 12/11/07
  161.   And how medieval of Johnboy #143 06:03  |  D.R. Zukerman 12/11/07
  162.   143# Johnboy. Please explain for me if you can.. 06:37  |  Akram Zekaria 12/11/07
  163.   #159 Michael N 06:37  |  Daybreak 12/11/07
  164.   JOHNBOY sparking on only one cylinder.ARABS including "Pals" 06:40  |  PETER SM 12/11/07
  165.   #153 Rob thinks his interpretation rules, OK? 06:43  |  Johnboy 12/11/07
  166.   Rob, Declaring a Blockade is Not an Act of War 06:52  |  Bernie 12/11/07
  167.   #161 And what is a "casus belli", Rob? 06:53  |  Johnboy 12/11/07
  168.   Rob, This is a Boring Argument 06:58  |  Bernie 12/11/07
  169.   #159 Michael N Part 2 07:02  |  Daybreak 12/11/07
  170.   #160 Rob thinks Israel can occupy land forever 07:12  |  Johnboy 12/11/07
  171.   Hamas 07:16  |  Josef kramer 12/11/07
  172.   #161 How disingenuous of you, D. R. Zukerman 07:24  |  Johnboy 12/11/07
  173.   #157 Your ignorance is showing, Rob 07:33  |  Johnboy 12/11/07
  174.   The simplest way to prevent Gaza Invasion.Stop the Qassems 08:05  |  PETER SM 12/11/07
  175.   #164 Be honest, PETER SM 08:47  |  Johnboy 12/11/07
  176.   Avoiding the inevitable 08:50  |  Gilad 12/11/07
  177.   #166, JB 09:04  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 12/11/07
  178.   #163, JB 09:12  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 12/11/07
  179.   talback poster volunteers to man Israeli gas chambers # 85 09:34  |  Clickfool 12/11/07
  180.   #178 This is flying over your head, isn`t it Cipora? 09:34  |  Johnboy 12/11/07
  181.   Poor, sad, lonely Leo # 105 09:37  |  Clickfool 12/11/07
  182.   Jazz cigarettes in evidence # 151 09:43  |  Clickfool 12/11/07
  183.   #177 Why do you even bother, Cipora? 09:44  |  Johnboy 12/11/07
  184.   #162 Akram Zekaria muses out loud.... 09:52  |  Johnboy 12/11/07
  185.   JOHNBOY.How disingenious YOU telling somebody to be honest. 09:55  |  PETER S .M. 12/11/07
  186.   #180, JB 10:02  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 12/11/07
  187.   165Johnboy wrong, as usual, on 242 10:03  |  Rob 12/11/07
  188.   #164 Whacky-do, PETER SM 10:04  |  Johnboy 12/11/07
  189.   #187 Rob, your ignorance is getting embarrassing 14:09  |  Johnboy 12/11/07
  190.   #186 Cipora struggles with english 14:33  |  Johnboy 12/11/07
  191.   Johnboy in legality of wars 14:44  |  Akram Zekaria 12/11/07
  192.   189JB on 242 takes Arab, not West interpretation 16:57  |  Rob 12/11/07
  193.   #152 Johnboy, twist and shout, no end to it 17:25  |  TOMY 12/11/07
  194.   "Good News" from Gaza 19:56  |  Eve 12/11/07
  195.   #191Yeah...and.... Akram? 00:48  |  Johnboy 13/11/07
  196.   #192 Rob showing his prejudices, I see. 00:59  |  Johnboy 13/11/07
  197.   Good News from Gaza 10:46  |  Ronnie 13/11/07
  198.   195# Johnboy you are right. But more more advices please! 23:51  |  Akram Zekaria 13/11/07
  199.   #198 So, taking the mickey, hey Akram? 12:43  |  Johnboy 14/11/07
  200.   199#Johnboy. You are a treasure ! 13:50  |  Akram Zekaria 14/11/07
  201.   hahaha 00:13  |  Tyler Phaboonheuang 18/11/07
  202.   Gaza 16:04  |  EA 24/11/07
  203.   God Said 00:15  |  Peace 26/11/07
  204.   Why 08:35  |  Al Khansa 25/11/08
  205.   Oh vay Moshe 08:43  |  Al Khansa 25/11/08
  206.   Gideon`s right 14:16  |  Shakhad 31/12/08
  207.   Hurah for Gideon Levy 12:39  |  Michael Smith 01/02/09
  208.   Something to think for 10:34  |  Mc Fisher 04/02/09
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