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Israel, PA agree future deals hinge on implementing road map
By Barak Ravid and Mazal Mualem, Haaretz Correspondents and Reuters
Tags: Israel, Palestinian Authority 

Israel and the Palestinian Authority agreed on Thursday that any future agreement between them will be conditional to the implementation of the first stage of the road map, which includes Palestinian counter-terrorism operations and a freeze on construction in the settlements.

The agreement, which follows two weeks of stalemate in the negotiations between the two sides, may pave the way to the drafting of a shared declaration that will be presented at an upcoming peace summit in Annapolis, Maryland, that aims to set terms for relaunching peace talks.

In talks between the two negotiating teams in Tel Aviv on Thursday, it was agreed that "any implementation of agreements in the future will be conditional to both sides carrying out what they must in accordance with the first stage of the road map." It is expected that a similar formulation will appear in the joint declaration the two sides will make at Annapolis.
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As part of the first stage of the road map, the Palestinians are obligated to undertake a series of security-related activities, with particular emphasis on counter-terrorism actions against militant groups, collecting weapons and arresting militants.

For its part, Israel is obligated to freeze construction in settlements, evacuate illegal outposts and withdraw from Palestinian cities.

During the second stage of the road map, a Palestinian state will be established within interim borders, and during the third stage a Palestinian state will be established as part of a final settlement.

An Israeli political source stressed that "the Palestinians have agreed to a formula according to which they must fulfill their obligations in the security area, prior to any move to the next stage."

Reiterating agreements already struck, the two sides concluded Thursday that a monitoring mechanism headed by the United States will ensure that each side meets its obligations in the implementation of the first stage of the road map.

However, the agreement is general and there is no accord on the specific functions of the monitoring mechanism.

According to the same political source, now that the two sides have agreed on how to proceed "it is possible to begin work on drafting the joint declaration that will be presented at the Annapolis summit."

He said that the two sides would meet again on the matter next week.

The Palestinian agreement was achieved Thursday after two weeks of refusal to show flexibility on this issue. The head of the Palestinian negotiating team, Ahmed Qureia, was particularly adamant about the Palestinian position.

In spite of earlier understandings between Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas and Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Qureia insisted that for their part the Palestinians had fulfilled their obligation according to the first stage of the road map, and said it was possible to proceed forward toward a final settlement.

Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni and Qureia met three times during the past week, and Livni emphasized that Israel would not back down from its insistence that the Palestinians must acknowledge fully their obligations according to the road map.

Livni was also able to involve Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in the matter, telling her that "I will not move forward one millimeter until this [issue] is not closed."

Lieberman wants PM to submit declaration outline ahead of Annapolis summit

Olmert should submit the outline of the Annapolis declaration to the cabinet for approval before leaving for the conference, Yisrael Beiteinu Chairman Avigdor Lieberman demanded Thursday.

He made the demand at a meeting with Olmert that he had requested in order to reiterate his party's red lines ahead of the Annapolis conference.

During the meeting, Lieberman told Olmert that the cabinet ought to hold a discussion prior to Annapolis, so that all coalition partners would be briefed on events and have a chance to express their position on the conference and the statement expected to come out of it.

Sources close to Lieberman said that Olmert promised to hold such a cabinet discussion. They added that the prime minister has thus far behaved decently toward Yisrael Beiteinu and has kept his promises.

Over the past few days, Lieberman has been working hard to torpedo the Annapolis conference, but he has not managed to persuade Shas Chairman Eli Yishai to form an alliance to that end.

Olmert also held a working meeting Thursday with Ehud Barak, the Labor Party leader and defense minister, amid reports of major tensions between the two.

Associates of both officials said the meeting took place in a friendly atmosphere and that reports of a crisis in their relationship have been overblown. The "crisis," these officials insisted, is nothing more than the professional disputes common between a prime minister and his defense minister.

Officials: PA, Israel want U.S. help on summit draft

Palestinian and Israeli negotiators are turning to U.S. mediators to bridge serious gaps in drafting a common approach to peace negotiations, officials on both sides said on Thursday.

A senior Palestinian negotiator said the two sides sought U.S. intervention on Tuesday after negotiators failed to resolve differences over a document they hope to present at the upcoming peace conference.

Another senior Palestinian official said that when the sides disagreed this week over the terms of an earlier understanding that Washington would adjudicate in disputes over whether peace terms had been met, U.S. officials sent both a written text.

Palestinian officials also said the latest talks had shown that any document would be shorter on detail than they hoped.

A U.S. diplomatic source said U.S. officials expected to be involved in bridging differences.

Meanwhile, The Palestinian Authority has said it wants the preface to the joint statement at Annapolis to say that a final-status arrangement will be completed within six months of the signing of agreements at the summit.

The demand based on a document recently written by the Palestinian support team for the negotiations with Israel. Palestinian sources relayed to Haaretz the main points of the paper, which recommended that the preface indicate that both parties are to fulfill their mutual obligations in the first stage of the road map within six months. The recommendations were submitted to chief Palestine Liberation Organization negotiator Saeb Erekat.

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      1.   No to Annapolis 04:08  |  ralphsrant1 09/11/07
      2.   Vague definitions lead to no results 04:34  |  Dan Chazan 09/11/07
      3.   Israel, PA Agree? Golly! 04:45  |  Stephen in New York 09/11/07
      4.   Glad to see that Israel and PA reached agreement, very good 05:13  |  Smadar 09/11/07
      5.   Beiteinu and Shas: Just resign! 07:08  |  Chaim 09/11/07
      6.   Planned to fail. I wonder why. 07:30  |  Natallie Durson 09/11/07
      7.   The Arabs must make very painful concessions for real peace: 07:36  |  Uzi 09/11/07
      8.   There can never be separate Arab polity west of the Jordan: 07:38  |  Uzi 09/11/07
      9.   Equitable and practicable peace plan that may work for a change: 07:39  |  Uzi 09/11/07
      10.   A 100% effort by Abbas = Zero 07:49  |  Nora 09/11/07
      11.   All this WITHOUT HAMAS? 07:55  |  dagma 09/11/07
      12.   So it`s simply a return to the road map .. 07:55  |  redmike 09/11/07
      13.   I will be persuaded only if and when.... 07:57  |  Hastaroth 09/11/07
      14.   #4 - sorry but you have no grasp of the situation at all! 08:10  |  redmike 09/11/07
      15.   To ralphsrant1 - Israelis are to blame. 08:14  |  Dolly 09/11/07
      16.   To Stephen in New York = `Palestinians in Plight` 08:26  |  Natasha 09/11/07
      17.   Welcome progress for the entire world 08:32  |  Ivar 09/11/07
      18.   more of the fantasy world of condi and george 08:39  |  victor hardman 09/11/07
      19.   LIEBERMAN & SHAS=DEAD IN THE WATER IN NEXT ELECTION 08:50  |  THE LIBRARIAN 09/11/07
      20.   What`s Lieberman for...? 09:29  |  Esther 09/11/07
      21.   Grandad Tosefta has feet of clay 10:23  |  Jasmine Murphy 09/11/07
      22.   The Palestinians obviously have not yet fulfilled..... 10:32  |  Swiss (Dino) 09/11/07
      23.   ROAD MAP, SMART MOVE 10:36  |  indrajaya 09/11/07
      24.   Is that a trap up ahead on the road, Israel??? 10:43  |  Johnboy 09/11/07
      25.   To #`s 7, 8, & 9 Uzi of Haifa 10:53  |  Steve the Pals. 09/11/07
      26.   to indrajaya 11:16  |  dovale 09/11/07
      27.   Annapolis my foot ! 11:19  |  Steve the Pals. 09/11/07
      28.   #24 johnboy and more fantasy about olmert 11:29  |  victor hardman 09/11/07
      29.   # 26, DOVALE 11:38  |  indrajaya 09/11/07
      30.   Indrajaya & yet more nonsense.... 11:39  |  Stan 09/11/07
      31.   Joke government 11:43  |  Murray 09/11/07
      32.   smadar`s agreement 11:50  |  tar sands 09/11/07
      33.   The future must include Palestinian successful fight against 11:55  |  Dani Yardeni 09/11/07
      34.   # 30, STAN 12:09  |  indrajaya 09/11/07
      35.   re palestinian amendment of charter 12:14  |  moshe moshe 09/11/07
      36.   "Blessed are the Peacemakers: For they shall be called 12:26  |  WalkingByFaith 09/11/07
      37.   The Olmert cabinet - no partner for peace 12:27  |  Mr. T 09/11/07
      38.   Dani Yardeni - I could not say it any better. Thanks! 12:49  |  Rafi 09/11/07
      39.   pa men always says yes to jews but need money 12:51  |  kad 09/11/07
      40.   OLMERT NEEDS MEDICATION!& HIS WIFE AND KIDS! 12:54  |  WARRIOR 09/11/07
      41.   to indrajaya 13:04  |  dovale 09/11/07
      42.   # 41, DOVALE 13:22  |  indrajaya 09/11/07
      43.   First make Pals helpless 13:55  |  Jan Elshout 09/11/07
      44.   Stephen in NY 14:00  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 09/11/07
      45.   Smadar #4 14:01  |  GABE1 09/11/07
      46.   Annapolis is all about legacy and the arabs screwing Israel 14:15  |  zionist forever 09/11/07
      47.   #42 INDY DO YOU WORK FOR HAMAS OR FATAH? 14:30  |  Petra we3macs@verizo 09/11/07
      48.   #36 WalkingByFaith: Blessed are the Peacemakers: For they... 14:33  |  WalkWithPeace 09/11/07
      49.   #34 indy can"t spell can"t think 14:34  |  Petra 09/11/07
      50.   Two are holding the tzitzes-one says this is mime... 14:54  |  Michael n 09/11/07
      51.   Indrajaya doesn`t even know..... 15:06  |  Stan 09/11/07
      52.   Stop the spin, I want to get off 15:50  |  Tosefta 09/11/07
      53.   #28 And Victor says I`m dreaming! 15:58  |  Johnboy 09/11/07
      54.   Road Map for Israel 16:01  |  Brod 09/11/07
      55.   #21 Is Jasmine another bird from Outerspace? 16:14  |  Tosefta 09/11/07
      56.   This is not any barrier to the Arabs 16:31  |  Gee 09/11/07
      57.   #44 so called peacenik blames the Palestinians as usual 17:02  |  Labhras 09/11/07
      58.   michael n and circular reasoning 17:35  |  Israeli 09/11/07
      59.   the best thing written by L A B H R A S 17:41  |  Labhras`s admirer 09/11/07
      60.   An easy agreement 18:06  |  Mark Lincoln 09/11/07
      61.   The best we can hope for 18:08  |  Mark Lincoln 09/11/07
      62.   Dani Yardeni # 33, I would have added a number of other points 18:13  |  Talia 09/11/07
      63.   Success is in the details.... 18:37  |  Esther 09/11/07
      64.   US/EU Highly DELIGHTED with TERRORIST Success of JewCleansed Gaza 18:44  |  Linda Rivera 09/11/07
      65.   ?Treacherous Dealer Deals Treacherously? 18:59  |  Gavrial 09/11/07
      66.   #32 Tar sands, thanks for the laugh 19:12  |  Smadar 09/11/07
      67.   Tosefta dodging the issue 19:13  |  Jasmine Murphy 09/11/07
      68.   Irish rubbernecker rolls about 19:14  |  peter 09/11/07
      69.   #9 Why is it so hard to see the reality? 19:16  |  Outsider 09/11/07
      70.   Natasha 16-You misunderstand my post 19:21  |  Stephen in New York 09/11/07
      71.   Archaeology, ideology, and Tosefta 19:24  |  Mark Lincoln 09/11/07
      72.   Margie 44 19:25  |  Stephen in New York 09/11/07
      73.   #45 Gabe1, excuse moi? I give Torontonians a bad image? 19:29  |  Smadar 09/11/07
      74.   Archaeology, ideology, and Tosefta 19:31  |  Mark Lincoln 09/11/07
      75.   Abbas and terrorism 19:49  |  Keith T 09/11/07
      76.   Waste of time 20:55  |  emad matahin 09/11/07
      77.   #61 Jasmine takes too much time already 21:22  |  Tosefta 09/11/07
      78.   Should have used a different parallel: Bird watching (Mark L #65) 21:33  |  Tosefta 09/11/07
      79.   To Keith T # 69 - Actually there is no Occupation..... 21:54  |  Dolly 09/11/07
      80.   tosefta doth protest too much 23:29  |  yirmiyahu 09/11/07
      81.   To zionist forever - Annapolis all aboutAmerica and Arabs screwin 23:30  |  Dagma 09/11/07
      82.   tosefta jasmine is more of a scholar then you are 23:32  |  yirmiyahu 09/11/07
      83.   tosefta your long post is the most awful dissembling 23:42  |  yirmiyahu 09/11/07
      84.   to Stephen in N.Y. # 3 23:43  |  Judah N. Wenkel 09/11/07
      85.   tosefta "i would be ashamed to write as you do" 23:45  |  yirmiyahu 09/11/07
      86.   Keith T # 69 Loaded Question 23:45  |  Jeff Northridge 09/11/07
      87.   Scholars and Wikipedia 23:46  |  Mark Littleton 09/11/07
      88.   BE ENCOURAGED ZION - YOUR G-D REIGNS OVER THE EARTH ?? 23:49  |  Bill 09/11/07
      89.   To zionist forever - Annapolis is all about America and Arabs scr 23:50  |  Dagma 09/11/07
      90.   Labarse - have you noticed 23:50  |  ChanahS 09/11/07
      91.   tosefta cut the crap 23:51  |  yirmiyahu 09/11/07
      92.   Jasmine Murphy #61 re: Tosefta dodging the issue 23:52  |  TonyL 09/11/07
      93.   tosefta to mark lincoln 23:54  |  yirmiyahu 09/11/07
      94.   most catholic states are anti semitic 00:05  |  papal bull 10/11/07
      95.   to Labhras, Johnboy & likeminded 00:18  |  Judah N. Wenkel 10/11/07
      96.   Am I Missing Something? 00:23  |  Jeff Northridge 10/11/07
      97.   to Dan Chazen 00:26  |  Judah N. Wenkel 10/11/07
      98.   NATIONS THAT WILL NOT SERVE ISRAEL WILL PERISH ?? 00:28  |  Bill 10/11/07
      99.   NO TRUE PEACE UNTIL THE JEWISH MESSIAH REIGNS IN JERUSALEM ?? 00:36  |  Bill 10/11/07
      100.   ALL ISLAMIC WARS VS ISRAEL SINCE 1929 HAVE FAILED ?? 00:42  |  Bill 10/11/07
      101.   #55 Tosefta - Look at the Hamas Charter 00:59  |  * BEN JABO 10/11/07
      102.   Smadar #68 01:08  |  Gabe1 10/11/07
      103.   Tosefta shame shame shame 01:27  |  Chezi 10/11/07
      104.   Future deals hinging on the Road Map P1 01:38  |  TonyL 10/11/07
      105.   Future deals hinging on the Road Map P2 01:41  |  TonyL 10/11/07
      106.   Charters and Charter 01:43  |  pippy 10/11/07
      107.   Future deals hinging on the Road Map P3 01:55  |  TonyL 10/11/07
      108.   #96 Pippy - Why the Hamas Charter of Course 01:57  |  * BEN JABO 10/11/07
      109.   Top two priorities for lovers of Israel. 02:26  |  Chaim 10/11/07
      110.   I really wonder 02:39  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 10/11/07
      111.   Johnboy #24 - the probable scenario 03:07  |  Dakkar 10/11/07
      112.   #95 Judah N Wenkel asks a question 03:39  |  Johnboy 10/11/07
      113.   Cipora Julianna Kohn #110 03:55  |  TonyL 10/11/07
      114.   Complete Nonsense 04:45  |  S.Illy 10/11/07
      115.   Tosefta # 77 So Where Is The Amended PLO Charter? 04:47  |  Jeff Northridge 10/11/07
      116.   #102 Gabe1 05:02  |  Smadar 10/11/07
      117.   a challenge to those not supportive of implementing the Road Map 05:54  |  Smadar 10/11/07
      118.   missing lickspittles 07:03  |  Settler Babe 10/11/07
      119.   Smadar #116 07:30  |  Gabe1 10/11/07
      120.   Smadar #117 07:37  |  Gabe1 10/11/07
      121.   #41 indrajaya, Good Point 07:45  |  Dutch 10/11/07
      122.   #115 Jeff is another one who is a bit loose with words 07:52  |  Johnboy 10/11/07
      123.   Cipora #110 07:58  |  GABE1 10/11/07
      124.   #117 smadar still in cloud cuckoo land 08:06  |  victor hardman 10/11/07
      125.   #113, TonyL 08:24  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 10/11/07
      126.   the PLO charter, conclusions & remaining problems - 09:16  |  ivo 10/11/07
      127.   #112johnboy still doesnt absorb fact 09:24  |  victor hardman 10/11/07
      128.   Johnboy # 122 I Said No Such Thing 09:55  |  Jeff Northridge 10/11/07
      129.   24: JB`s fantasy life strikes again 11:13  |  David Teich 10/11/07
      130.   57: Dim bulb Labhras talks about "enlightened"? 11:17  |  David Teich 10/11/07
      131.   Johnboy #112 11:18  |  Dakkar 10/11/07
      132.   122: JB`s as hypocritically funny as usual 11:47  |  David Teich 10/11/07
      133.   the plo charter and dennis ross 11:51  |  and if not 10/11/07
      134.   A Palestinian has already died in RMI implementation 13:31  |  J.M.Jordan 10/11/07
      135.   Charter change (Ivo #126) 14:43  |  Tosefta 10/11/07
      136.   PLO Charta: quick Google research... 14:59  |  J.M.Jordan 10/11/07
      137.   Tosefta #135: no problem - 15:10  |  ivo 10/11/07
      138.   Charter change (Jeff Northridge #115) 15:30  |  Tosefta 10/11/07
      139.   tosefta "posters of such low quality" 15:38  |  amnon reshef 10/11/07
      140.   tosefta "people can find mountains of news 15:44  |  tuvia raviv 10/11/07
      141.   tosefta searches the web for backing on the charter 15:56  |  captain wentworth 10/11/07
      142.   Concerning the Roadmap: Now bad even for Israel 16:01  |  Tosefta 10/11/07
      143.   israel sent a letter to the united nations 16:14  |  harzion 10/11/07
      144.   rseearch and thought (sic) dept fatah 16:17  |  harzion 10/11/07
      145.   the pnc met on 24/4/1996 16:22  |  harzion 10/11/07
      146.   the palestinian national covenant explicitly stated 16:25  |  harzion 10/11/07
      147.   johnboy is mendacious 16:39  |  zebulun 10/11/07
      148.   Our verbally diarrhetic "flushman"; aka The Hydra/Harzion 16:49  |  Tosefta 10/11/07
      149.   the plo said they may make an amendment on the following dates 16:49  |  harzion 10/11/07
      150.   Return of the shallow multi-headed Hydra (aka flushman/zebulun) 16:51  |  Tosefta 10/11/07
      151.   re PLO Charta 16:53  |  J.M.Jordan 10/11/07
      152.   #112 videogameboy takes fantasy over reality 16:56  |  peter 10/11/07
      153.   This situation is subject to change Tosefta 16:57  |  Mark Lincoln 10/11/07
      154.   faisal hamdi husseini head of the pnc legal dept 16:58  |  harzion 10/11/07
      155.   for those into numbers it is article 33 of the pnc charter 17:00  |  harzion 10/11/07
      156.   Three assumptions - Tosefta 17:03  |  Mark Lincoln 10/11/07
      157.   on 15th january 1997 the plo stated in the hebron agreement 17:06  |  harzion 10/11/07
      158.   Why go back to square one? 17:07  |  Dutch 10/11/07
      159.   salim zanoon the chairman of the pnc on 16/5/1996 in al nahar 17:12  |  harzion 10/11/07
      160.   Tosefta`s perspective re: PLO recognition of Israel... 17:13  |  Smadar 10/11/07
      161.   arabist apologists gets smoked 17:24  |  peter 10/11/07
      162.   The Likud 17:24  |  Likudnikit 10/11/07
      163.   What is so confusing to you? (JM Jordan #151) 17:26  |  Tosefta 10/11/07
      164.   Welcome back, chameleon poster 17:29  |  Jasmine Murphy 10/11/07
      165.   smadar as someone else has written 17:33  |  tar sands 10/11/07
      166.   How does the PLO charter then define terror? 17:36  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 10/11/07
      167.   to Mark Lincoln # 156 17:43  |  Judah N. Wenkel 10/11/07
      168.   The assumptions (Mark Lincoln #156) 18:19  |  Tosefta 10/11/07
      169.   To Haaretz staff moderators. 18:40  |  Judah N. Wenkel 10/11/07
      170.   tosefta now says that the change was made at a meeting with 18:50  |  jean brodie 10/11/07
      171.   in june 1999 the palestinian ministry of information 18:53  |  jean brodie 10/11/07
      172.   #95 Judah N Wenkel 18:56  |  Labhras 10/11/07
      173.   #90 chanarse 19:03  |  Labhras 10/11/07
      174.   tosefta knows how to behave when taking exams 19:10  |  natke nir 10/11/07
      175.   Clarification requested, so did the PNC, which I assume is 20:01  |  Smadar 10/11/07
      176.   Dutch # 158 Square One 20:03  |  Jeff Northridge 10/11/07
      177.   Cipora Julianna Kohn #125 20:12  |  TonyL 10/11/07
      178.   Thanks to your papa (Smadar #160, 9) 20:24  |  Tosefta 10/11/07
      179.   Apologists by denial are the dumbest(Peter the Great Fantasizer) 20:47  |  Tosefta 10/11/07
      180.   Advice to Slowman 20:52  |  Mazal Mualem 10/11/07
      181.   #171 Labhras 21:16  |  Nemesis 10/11/07
      182.   ireland is a beggar of a country 21:18  |  papal bull 10/11/07
      183.   to Labhras # 171 21:19  |  Judah N. Wenkel 10/11/07
      184.   the muslims in south africa were aghast 21:27  |  haim nadel 10/11/07
      185.   Tosefta # 163 It`s Still Confusing 21:48  |  Jeff Northridge 10/11/07
      186.   Smadar this is a farce 22:07  |  Truths 10/11/07
      187.   #90 Say Labhras re Chanah`s post 22:09  |  ballistic 10/11/07
      188.   #90 Say Chanah-stop being silly. 22:18  |  ballistic 10/11/07
      189.   To Haaretz staff moderators. 22:31  |  Judah N. Wenkel 10/11/07
      190.   are gaza and the west bank separated from each other 22:36  |  haim nadel 10/11/07
      191.   #146, harzion, and the plo charter 22:37  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 10/11/07
      192.   to Nemesis # 177 22:55  |  Judah N. Wenkel 10/11/07
      193.   truths of melbourne 22:57  |  alice springs 10/11/07
      194.   #192..Judah N. Wenkel 23:13  |  Nemesis 10/11/07
      195.   #181 Judah N Wenkel 23:19  |  Labhras 10/11/07
      196.   ballistic the poor of africa head for the west 23:25  |  wassupgirl 10/11/07
      197.   #185 Ballistic re chanarse 23:28  |  Labhras 10/11/07
      198.   tosefta tossed and turned in the unfriendly waters 23:33  |  shelly 10/11/07
      199.   to ballistic # 187-188 23:35  |  Judah N. Wenkel 10/11/07
      200.   #188 Ballistic - stop being so hypocritical 23:39  |  * BEN JABO 10/11/07
      201.   #188..ballistic 23:48  |  Nemesis 10/11/07
      202.   #158 doris makes her own law and gets confused 23:50  |  victor hardman 10/11/07
      203.   #192 Judah N Wenkel 23:52  |  Labhras 10/11/07
      204.   #186 Truths from Melbourne, from a peripheral perspective you`re 23:57  |  Smadar 10/11/07
      205.   #132 What David Wants 00:09  |  Johnboy 11/11/07
      206.   For Smadar #73 00:10  |  Esther 11/11/07
      207.   The vote in 1998 (Jeff Northridge #185) 00:13  |  Tosefta 11/11/07
      208.   #142 Tosefta, as all peace plans - Road Map is also metamorphic.. 00:31  |  Smadar 11/11/07
      209.   #199 Judah N Wenkel to Ballistic 00:50  |  Labhras 11/11/07
      210.   Hamas... 01:01  |  nemesis 11/11/07
      211.   to Johnboy # 204 01:03  |  Judah N. Wenkel 11/11/07
      212.   #205 Esther in TA,Israel - thanks & Gabe1 #120 re: C. Glick 01:15  |  Smadar 11/11/07
      213.   the arabist apologist tries smoke and mirrors 01:24  |  peter 11/11/07
      214.   Moral Chasm 01:27  |  Daniel Wein 11/11/07
      215.   #204 videogameboy tilts himself over 01:30  |  peter 11/11/07
      216.   to Labhrass # 203 01:32  |  Judah N. Wenkel 11/11/07
      217.   #210 Judah`s Israel-centric worldview Part 1 01:42  |  Johnboy 11/11/07
      218.   to Labhrass # 208 01:44  |  Judah N. Wenkel 11/11/07
      219.   #210 Judah`s Israel-centric worldview Part 2 01:54  |  Johnboy 11/11/07
      220.   #188-2 Ballistic 02:39  |  * BEN JABO 11/11/07
      221.   #215 Judan N Wenkel 02:56  |  Labhras 11/11/07
      222.   to Johnboy # 214, 216 03:03  |  Judah N. Wenkel 11/11/07
      223.   #213 peter`s twisted logic 03:22  |  Johnboy 11/11/07
      224.   # 48 Amen!!! It takes peace to make peace. 03:56  |  WalkingByFaith 11/11/07
      225.   # 1 ralphsranr1 No to Annapolis I am a 100 % with you NO,NO!! 04:03  |  Fed-Up 11/11/07
      226.   Johnboy 05:01  |  Tired of the lies 11/11/07
      227.   Smadar and Israel 05:06  |  Truths 11/11/07
      228.   Tosefta # 206 The Vote Still Didn`t Change The Charter 05:07  |  Jeff Northridge 11/11/07
      229.   Alice Springs and shining light of intellect 05:09  |  Truths 11/11/07
      230.   Johnboy # 214 It Works Both Ways 05:47  |  Jeff Northridge 11/11/07
      231.   #222 Judah simply handwaves it all away.... 07:45  |  Johnboy 11/11/07
      232.   In your own heart, be no man`s enemy. Give them no power over U 13:15  |  ShalomPeaceSaalam 11/11/07
      233.   Labhras continues to lie. Nothing new there... 14:47  |  David Teich 12/11/07
      234.   231: JB muttering about "hand waving"? 14:52  |  David Teich 12/11/07
      235.   #220 Say Ben Jabo---well, er, what does 18:24  |  ballistic 13/11/07
      236.   #201 Say Nemesis 18:29  |  ballistic 13/11/07
      237.   Say Ben Jabo---you sound like a broken record 01:06  |  ballistic 14/11/07
      238.   #235 FRUITCAKE BULL ISTIC 03:09  |  * BEN JABO 14/11/07
      239.   234: Gee, Ballistic, that would be nothing 15:04  |  David Teich 14/11/07
      240.   #238 Say Ben Jabber 18:08  |  ballistic 14/11/07
      241.   #239 David Teich 18:14  |  ballistic 14/11/07
      242.   #238 Say Ben Jabo 17:58  |  ballistic 15/11/07
      243.   241: Ahhh, the Ballistic apologia continues (2nd try) 19:56  |  David Teich 24/11/07
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