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Livni to Egyptian FM: Put a stop to weapons smuggling into Gaza
By Barak Ravid ,Haaretz Correspondent
Tags: Gaza Strip, Israel, Egypt 

Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni told her Egyptian counterpart Ahmed Aboul Gheit on Tuesday that Cairo must put a stop to weapons smuggling into the Gaza Strip.

At a summit of Middle East and European foreign ministers in Lisbon, Livni told Aboul Gheit that Gaza was turning into a dire regional problem and that Egypt must act decisively along the its border with the Strip to halt the weapons smuggling.

An estimated $20 million is smuggled into the Gaza Strip each month through the Philadelphi Route, according to Democratic Representative Gary Ackerman, chairman of the U.S. House Subcommittee on the Middle East and South Asia.
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In an interview with Haaretz on Monday, Ackerman pointed an accusing finger at Egypt, arguing that Cairo's failure to control the Sinai border with the Gaza Strip helps to empower Hamas.

"Any way that you help the government in Gaza, the illegal government in Gaza, you further hurt Abu Mazen [Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas]," the congressman added.

Ackerman expressed hope that the Egyptians "are not intentionally" trying to strengthen Hamas, but said that "that is the effect."

Ackerman was visiting Israel to take part in the Saban Forum, an annual meeting for U.S.-Israel dialogue organized by the Saban Center for Middle East Studies at the Brookings Institute.

Ackerman said that the security situation along the Philadelphi Route has been increasingly deteriorating.

"The smuggling provides somewhere between 12 million and 20 million dollars to the economy of a rogue government that staged a coup against the wishes of the Palestinian people," said Ackerman.

The congressman also raised the possibility that "there may be more of a financial incentive for some people to be acting in a more corrupt way on the Egyptian side, to allow this [smuggling] to happen."

Ackerman stressed that "Egypt is not helping as much as it can. It can certainly do a better job on that border."

Ackerman said that intelligence information has revealed the smuggling of more people, materials and arms than ever, and that the type of weaponry being brought into the Strip was more sophisticated and with higher destructive capacity.

The Jewish congressman from New York is leading a hardline stance against Egypt on the issue of arms smuggling into the Strip from Sinai. Several months ago, Ackerman initiated a move with the support of another New York legislator, Nita Lowey, which froze $200 million of the total of $1.3 billion Egypt receives in military aid every year from the United States.

Ackerman says that freezing $200 million "is not going to do major damage to the Egyptian army's budget, but it is certainly a signal that if they are going backward, we are going backward. There is a great deal of money that we are giving them, and it is important to the Egyptian army. I hope that this expression of no-confidence from the Congress and the United States will result in greater attention to solving this issue."

Ackerman said that the Egyptians have never done a sufficiently good job on this issue, but noted that the situation was better in the past.

"We have a very serious problem understanding why this is going on, and have made it very clear [to the Egyptians] in a financial way."

Ackerman said he met with a group of senior Egyptian officers several weeks ago in Washington, and that they had briefed him and other legislators on the activity on the Sinai side of the border.

In a document provided to the legislators, the Egyptians maintained that Israeli soldiers were involved in assisting the smugglers. Ackerman rejects such possibility.

"Every organization has corrupt people, but that is not the point," he said. For the Egyptians, "these are not random cases, but it appears to be systematic. It seems that decision-makers in Egypt have decided to ignore the situation and look the other way, and this is unacceptable for the U.S."

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      210.   #161 yitzhaki 06:25  |  Hirsh 07/11/07
      211.   #170 - And by the way.... 06:27  |  JES 07/11/07
      212.   #172 - What size quorum? 06:38  |  JES 07/11/07
      213.   MAUREEN N.Avoiding the fact there ARE tunels from Gaza 06:46  |  PETER SM 07/11/07
      214.   JOHNBOY Simply answered 07:35  |  PETER SM 07/11/07
      215.   rich 07:44  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 07/11/07
      216.   FED up.Unfortunately the useful idiots do not do Britain a favor 07:44  |  PETER SM 07/11/07
      217.   #185 PeterSM. Well... um let`s see... 07:46  |  Maureen Ann 07/11/07
      218.   ackerman cites WHOSE "intelligence reports" 08:16  |  eric 07/11/07
      219.   #93eric suffers tunnel vision and myopia! 09:32  |  victor hardman 07/11/07
      220.   Moron Ann # 192 a must read for all 09:34  |  ChanahS 07/11/07
      221.   Warning: #24 Fake Indrajaya 09:54  |  indrajaya 07/11/07
      222.   MAUREEN N"Imprisoned" people do not enter& leave Gaza?via Egypt? 10:01  |  PETER SM 07/11/07
      223.   This has been a most confusing Link... 10:03  |  Dagma 07/11/07
      224.   To #199 10:09  |  Uzi 07/11/07
      225.   Christian priests crimes 10:15  |  Uzi 07/11/07
      226.   #209 So, let me get this right.... 10:29  |  Johnboy 07/11/07
      227.   #212 JES ponders the issue of quoroms 10:40  |  Johnboy 07/11/07
      228.   #211 I`ll try again, JES 10:49  |  Johnboy 07/11/07
      229.   #219 Such an interesting point, Victor 10:53  |  Johnboy 07/11/07
      230.   #209 JES, well, JES doesn`t make any sense. 10:57  |  Johnboy 07/11/07
      231.   #228 - Johnboy might want to try again I 12:48  |  JES 07/11/07
      232.   #228 - Part II 12:49  |  JES 07/11/07
      233.   #230 - Let me rephrase 12:51  |  JES 07/11/07
      234.   # 195 Labhras reLpapal bull. WHAT HAS YOUR RESPONSE TO DO WITH.. 15:31  |  Fed-Up 07/11/07
      235.   If only Livni would take her own advise... 16:02  |  Dutch 07/11/07
      236.   To papal bull..What We Need papal bull is the Following.. 17:58  |  Fed-Up 07/11/07
      237.   #234, Fed-Up... 19:53  |  Silvienne 07/11/07
      238.   #235 - Where do you live, Dutch? 20:43  |  JES 07/11/07
      239.   #234 fed up 20:56  |  Labhras 07/11/07
      240.   # 237 Silvienne. Point Taken..And I am Aware..... 01:48  |  Fed-Up 08/11/07
      241.   # 239 Labhras...No I Am Not Saying one Law for the Priests And.. 02:01  |  Fed-Up 08/11/07
      242.   #231 Man, those are real loser arguments, JES 02:45  |  Johnboy 08/11/07
      243.   #232 JES simply reqrites history as he goes along 03:09  |  Johnboy 08/11/07
      244.   #233 Let me confess something, JES 03:41  |  Johnboy 08/11/07
      245.   FED UP WITH LABHRAS 05:52  |  DANNY 08/11/07
      246.   # 219 eeeeeeyo! victor old boy... 07:00  |  eric 08/11/07
      247.   66: Why won`t Mark Lincoln learn to be honest? (2nd try) 12:03  |  David Teich 08/11/07
      248.   226, et al: JB, we`d love you to get it right, p1 12:14  |  David Teich 08/11/07
      249.   226, et al: JB, we`d love you to get it right, p2 12:22  |  David Teich 08/11/07
      250.   #248 David Teich pokes his head out of WhackyWorld again. 03:38  |  Johnboy 09/11/07
      251.   #249 David needs to read more widely 03:50  |  Johnboy 09/11/07
      252.   #249 David, the air must be thin in WhackyWorld. 04:01  |  Johnboy 09/11/07
      253.   #249 David is Israeli, so he doesn`t understand politics 04:12  |  Johnboy 09/11/07
      254.   250-3: JB, thanx for another great laugh!!! p2 12:21  |  David Teich 10/11/07
      255.   250-3: JB, thanx for another great laugh!!! p3 12:30  |  David Teich 10/11/07
      256.   250-3: JB, thanx for another great laugh!!! p4 12:39  |  David Teich 10/11/07
      257.   #254 David`s non-answers 00:32  |  Johnboy 11/11/07
      258.   #254 David`s idea of a comprehensive rebuttal 00:42  |  Johnboy 11/11/07
      259.   #255 David the Pontificator 00:46  |  Johnboy 11/11/07
      260.   #256 David`s non-understanding of politics 00:53  |  Johnboy 11/11/07
      261.   250-3: JB, thanx for another great laugh!!! p1 (2nd try) 15:11  |  David Teich 12/11/07
      262.   257: Thanx, JB, still good for the chuckle, p1 15:18  |  David Teich 12/11/07
      263.   257: Thanx, JB, still good for the chuckle, p2 15:26  |  David Teich 12/11/07
      264.   257: Thanx, JB, still good for the chuckle, p3 15:32  |  David Teich 12/11/07
      265.   Palestine You are WEAK 02:55  |  Saad Ullah Mir 20/11/07
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