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Envisioning a divided Jerusalem
By Nadav Shragai
tags: Jerusalem

It is hard to decide which is more embarrassing: The inconceivable quiescence with which the division of Jerusalem is being discussed, or the unforgivable impotence and weak arguments evinced by the right and the religious in this debate.

Forget about ideology for a moment. Anyone who has not yet understood why Jerusalem is the embodiment of Jewish rights in this land is not going to understand it now.

Pragmatism, for better or worse, is what will decide the battle for Jerusalem. Yet on this of all issues, the obliviousness is almost total: It is impossible to talk again and again about the hundreds of thousands of Jews who visit the Old City and Western Wall without explaining that this will stop once Jerusalem is divided. It is impossible to fight for Jerusalem without telling the sorry tale of Rachel's Tomb, which the Oslo Accords turned into a half-abandoned border post on the outskirts of Bethlehem. It is impossible to wage this battle without recalling the 19 years in which Jews were forbidden to visit their holy places, even though the armistice agreement with Jordan ostensibly guaranteed such visits.
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There will be no safe, quiet houses in Neveh Yaakov, French Hill or Pisgat Ze'ev without control over "outlying neighborhoods" such as Shoafat and Beit Hanina, which abut them. There will be no safe shopping at Jerusalem's Malkha Mall, no visits to the Biblical Zoo, no train rides from Jerusalem to Tel Aviv and no peaceful houses in Givat Masua and Malkha without the adjacent "outlying neighborhood" of Walaja. There are also "outlying neighborhoods" adjoining Kibbutz Ramat Rachel, Talpiot and Har Homa. Beit Jala, the "outlying neighborhood" next to Gilo, was inhabited by thoroughly decent people, just as Walaja and Shoafat are - until one day (and this was before the rise of Hamas), it was taken over by armed gangs, who shot at Gilo from it every day.

Those who give the Palestinians control over the Temple Mount, the "outlying neighborhood" next to the Western Wall, will no longer be able to pray in peace at the Wall, or hold Memorial Day ceremonies or induction ceremonies for paratroopers there; nor will they be able to ensure the safety of the president or prime minister should either wish to participate in such ceremonies. Imagine the street battles in the alleys of Sajiyeh and Beit Hanun, in the Gaza Strip, transferred to the ancient streets of Jerusalem, which today teem with Jews. Think about how bar-mitzvah ceremonies or wedding pictures could be held at the Western Wall, or even plain old visits to place a note in the cracks, if Palestinians "controlled" the area a few hundred meters away.

How would Jews visit their loved ones who are buried on the Mount of Olives in a divided Jerusalem? In armored cars? Would Mount Scopus, which contains the Hebrew University and Hadassah Hospital, once again become an isolated enclave? Har Gilo would also become an enclave. And what would happen to cars on Route 1, one of the city's main arteries, which is dominated by Issawiyeh, Wadi Joz and Sheikh Jarrah; would they also be armored?

Granted, in many people's eyes, Jerusalem is already divided. We have discriminated, in terms of both infrastructure and services, against the residents of East Jerusalem. We have ignored many parts of the city's eastern half. The question is whether one fatal folly justifies another. Would it not be preferable to rectify the first folly and reunite the city, instead of ratifying the division and thereby sinking all of us, Jews and Arabs alike? Do we need to simply accept the "demographic problem," or should we deal with it by strengthening the Jewish presence in the city, through finally implementing an infinity of decisions that were never carried out?

In 2000, it was Ehud Olmert who fought for Jerusalem's unity. Today, the city is still searching for a leader to wage the battle against him.
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  1.   You can`t always get what you want 10:25  |  Natallie Durson 17/10/07
  2.   #1 wher does nutullie get her history from 10:49  |  victor hardman 17/10/07
  3.   Division of Jerusalme Equals Destruction of Jerusalem 11:07  |  Ben Israel 17/10/07
  4.   There comes a time. . .The Indus river is the anglicised name for 11:11  |  lakshmi 17/10/07
  5.   Jerusalem must remain unified and Jewish 11:16  |  Hastaroth 17/10/07
  6.   You can`t always get what you want 11:26  |  CommonSense 17/10/07
  7.   Victor Hardman and history 11:32  |  CommonSense 17/10/07
  8.   Leave Arab East Jerusalem alone 11:45  |  Walid 17/10/07
  9.   #1 Nathalie Durson. 11:47  |  Rolandus 17/10/07
  10.   In my opinion... 11:51  |  Edith 17/10/07
  11.   Many times the talkback is a lot of fun 11:57  |  Edith 17/10/07
  12.   arrogance speaks.. 12:00  |  ravi 17/10/07
  13.   People have dreams, people have wishes....... 12:02  |  Swiss (Dino) 17/10/07
  14.   Jerusalem 12:03  |  Moshe ben Shimon 17/10/07
  15.   There will never be a lasting division of Al-Quds 12:03  |  Hannah 17/10/07
  16.   Google told me that Nadav Shragay`s info may harm my computer. 12:23  |  S 17/10/07
  17.   IF they give away our Holiest, the people will take upon arms! 12:44  |  Hard Talk 17/10/07
  18.   HANNAH THE HATER 12:44  |  Brant 17/10/07
  19.   Is this peace? 12:52  |  reality 17/10/07
  20.   #7 Common Sense re "Mr Hardman" 12:54  |  Labhras 17/10/07
  21.   re: Natallie Durson 12:54  |  Efox 17/10/07
  22.   Hateful Hannah and Her Predictions 12:57  |  Jane 17/10/07
  23.   Back to 1947, Israel is attacked and has to reconquer everything 12:59  |  Efox 17/10/07
  24.   re: ravi 13:02  |  Efox 17/10/07
  25.   "12 Swiss Dino 13:03  |  Labhras 17/10/07
  26.   15Hannah&8Walid,Hanannah well said,I did not for politeness sake 13:03  |  lakshmi 17/10/07
  27.   jerusalem-natalie? 13:04  |  mark 17/10/07
  28.   re: Edith 13:05  |  Efox 17/10/07
  29.   re: Swiss (Dino) 13:12  |  Efox 17/10/07
  30.   re: Hannah 13:17  |  Efox 17/10/07
  31.   re: S 13:19  |  Efox 17/10/07
  32.   re: lakshmi 13:23  |  Efox 17/10/07
  33.   Lets talk real solutions instead of all this tiptoing 13:28  |  Terminator 17/10/07
  34.   #18, Brant 13:43  |  Hannah 17/10/07
  35.   Peace treaties with arabs are worthless 13:51  |  steve 17/10/07
  36.   #4 Mrs. Jellyby (lakshmi) 13:58  |  Daybreak 17/10/07
  37.   #15 in between tricks HO Hannah? 14:05  |  Petra 17/10/07
  38.   Ravi you dimwitted squirrel. 14:07  |  Petra 17/10/07
  39.   EFox, GOOD ONE ...LOL 14:11  |  Petra 17/10/07
  40.   #27 Mark Mad Comics is better 14:13  |  Petra 17/10/07
  41.   #26, Lakshmi 14:14  |  Hannah 17/10/07
  42.   Hannah the Hag Ho 14:15  |  Petra 17/10/07
  43.   #30, efox 14:17  |  Hannah 17/10/07
  44.   335 STEVE, you`re a genius!!!! 14:18  |  Petra 17/10/07
  45.   What part of the word `law` don`t you understand? 14:19  |  Don Camillo 17/10/07
  46.   #28 EFox, THANKS!!!!! truth is wonderful. 14:20  |  Petra 17/10/07
  47.   #36, Daybreak 14:23  |  Hannah 17/10/07
  48.   Shragai, your concerns were already answered 14:26  |  Yaakov Sullivan 17/10/07
  49.   #47 Hannah 14:30  |  Daybreak 17/10/07
  50.   What would be the point of a Jewish Israel 14:37  |  Nechama 17/10/07
  51.   47,41Hannah,continuez,I don`t any longer bother to read Brant 14:44  |  lakshmi 17/10/07
  52.   #42, Petra 14:52  |  Hannah 17/10/07
  53.   32E Fox & Hannah, this poster seems to be saying the opposite of 14:53  |  lakshmi 17/10/07
  54.   Peace talks total waste of time if Jerusalem off the table 14:55  |  newageblues 17/10/07
  55.   #45and wher does camillo get his dreams from ? 14:57  |  victor hardman 17/10/07
  56.   #49, Nechama 15:01  |  Hannah 17/10/07
  57.   Jerusalem 15:06  |  Chris 17/10/07
  58.   #51 Mrs. Jellyby (lakshmi) 15:08  |  Daybreak 17/10/07
  59.   #49 Nechama: the Obvious 15:12  |  Hard Talk 17/10/07
  60.   the palestinians do have already a capital 15:13  |  scallywag 17/10/07
  61.   #54blues cannot distinguish between words and performance 15:17  |  victor hardman 17/10/07
  62.   Can anyone in favor of giving away jeruaslem answer these?!?!?! 15:19  |  SHIMON 17/10/07
  63.   Swiss Dino (#13) 15:25  |  Polybios 17/10/07
  64.   israels hell or haniyeh`s paradise? 15:27  |  Trembling Palestine 17/10/07
  65.   Common sense #7 15:32  |  Polybios 17/10/07
  66.   This IS The Clear Case Why It Can Not be Divided! 15:32  |  Ben S 17/10/07
  67.   newageblues 15:38  |  SHIMON 17/10/07
  68.   #2 Victor, but who were the majority of Jerusalemites? 15:39  |  newageblues 17/10/07
  69.   Jerusalem for both people 15:42  |  Xaun 17/10/07
  70.   #28 Efox 15:46  |  Edith 17/10/07
  71.   Trembling Palestine #64 15:48  |  Polybios 17/10/07
  72.   SHARE JERUSALEM - DON`T DIVIDE IT 15:49  |  B`Galil 17/10/07
  73.   Iakshmi # 4 Wishful Thinking 15:51  |  Jeff Northridge 17/10/07
  74.   poly bios 15:52  |  Trembling Palestine 17/10/07
  75.   #69 Xaun: VIVA ESPAGNA! 15:54  |  Hard Talk 17/10/07
  76.   Religions, not Nationalities 15:59  |  ARTH 17/10/07
  77.   India, Pakistan, and Jerusalem 16:01  |  utagawa 17/10/07
  78.   We will never forget Jerusalem! 16:01  |  Johnny Weintraub 17/10/07
  79.   Trembling Palestine #74 16:05  |  Polybios 17/10/07
  80.   Jeff N. - #73. Is there any excuse? 16:08  |  Polybios 17/10/07
  81.   Lift up your heart and sing 16:09  |  Bruce 17/10/07
  82.   Shimon #62 16:16  |  Polybios 17/10/07
  83.   Is Having An Undivided Jerusalem/No Peace...REALLY WORTH IT? 16:22  |  Proud Pal Defender 17/10/07
  84.   #81 BRUCE: under Israeli control Jerusalem already IS a city of 16:25  |  Hard Talk 17/10/07
  85.   Iakshmi # 53 That`s An Oxymoron 16:26  |  Jeff Northridge 17/10/07
  86.   Proud Pal D. 16:32  |  Polybios 17/10/07
  87.   #78, Johnny Weintraub 16:38  |  Hannah 17/10/07
  88.   Labhras 16:41  |  Polybios 17/10/07
  89.   Lakshimi....israel doesnt give things up for TEMPORARY PEACE!!! 16:49  |  SHIMON 17/10/07
  90.   No peace will come about unless: 16:53  |  Dani 17/10/07
  91.   Polybios, all you are saying is.... #88 16:54  |  Yaakov Sullivan 17/10/07
  92.   as the bible says........... 16:55  |  maria 17/10/07
  93.   #83where and when did proud pal escape? 16:55  |  victor hardman 17/10/07
  94.   Polybios 16:56  |  akiva (zionist) 17/10/07
  95.   Of what use is the Western Wall for Palestinians? 17:00  |  Fortuna Benmayor 17/10/07
  96.   JERUSALEM....God`s Anvil 17:08  |  maria 17/10/07
  97.   Say No To Apartheid Jerusalem! 17:09  |  Seeker 17/10/07
  98.   Forget the Western Wailing Wall, it means nothing to Jews 17:15  |  Ivar 17/10/07
  99.   Dont divide it 17:17  |  KUTW 17/10/07
  100.   The Great Divide 17:18  |  Moshe 17/10/07
  101.   Polybios # 80 Diplomatic Technicalities 17:19  |  Jeff Northridge 17/10/07
  102.   Yaakov #91, slow down there 17:21  |  Polybios 17/10/07
  103.   Swiss (Dino) we are dumb OK 17:22  |  Gil 17/10/07
  104.   To allegedly Hard Talk 17:22  |  xaun 17/10/07
  105.   Akiva (zionist) #94 17:25  |  Polybios 17/10/07
  106.   24... efox... your mind is clouded 17:27  |  ravi 17/10/07
  107.   Jeff N. - those are euphemisms for BS 17:29  |  Polybios 17/10/07
  108.   @83, you are not proud pal defender but open nazi 17:30  |  vladimir 17/10/07
  109.   Answer for Fortuna Benmayor #95 17:31  |  Jonathan S 17/10/07
  110.   #4 17:33  |  Moshe 17/10/07
  111.   ירושלים 17:34  |  sandra chitayat 17/10/07
  112.   to number 60 17:35  |  xaun 17/10/07
  113.   POLYBIOS: I think I`ve have an answer to 17:35  |  Hard Talk 17/10/07
  114.   77... utagawa 17:35  |  ravi 17/10/07
  115.   Talk about paranoid 17:38  |  Danite 17/10/07
  116.   To Ivar, the Estonian. 17:40  |  sandra chitayat 17/10/07
  117.   Here we go again Polybios 17:41  |  Yaakov Sullivan 17/10/07
  118.   Ivar, read Josephus, book VI 17:42  |  Polybios 17/10/07
  119.   Ben Gurion and Jerusalem 17:43  |  Jonathan S 17/10/07
  120.   about ethnic cleansing 17:43  |  xaun 17/10/07
  121.   If I divide thee, Oh Jerusalem... 17:45  |  Tosefta 17/10/07
  122.   jerusalem 17:47  |  sam 17/10/07
  123.   #104 Xaun: providing that 17:49  |  Hard Talk 17/10/07
  124.   #98 IVAR: are you hi-jacking our feelings too 17:53  |  Hard Talk 17/10/07
  125.   #49, Daybreak 17:55  |  Hannah 17/10/07
  126.   # 25 Labhras 17:56  |  Swiss (Dino) 17/10/07
  127.   a falsehood, Hannah #15 17:57  |  Polybios 17/10/07
  128.   Hannah and Johnny Weintraub #87 17:57  |  Jonathan S 17/10/07
  129.   # 29 Efox 18:01  |  Swiss (Dino) 17/10/07
  130.   Victor, if no peace, then peace treaty won`t be carried out 18:07  |  newageblues 17/10/07
  131.   Would it not be preferable to rectify the first folly ...? 18:10  |  Ernst 17/10/07
  132.   # 63 Polybios 18:12  |  Swiss (Dino) 17/10/07
  133.   Jerusalem 18:18  |  Ernie 17/10/07
  134.   US embassy and Jerusalem (Polybius #80; Jeff N) 18:19  |  Tosefta 17/10/07
  135.   # 103 Gil, you must be kidding !!! 18:20  |  Swiss (Dino) 17/10/07
  136.   define "peace"; 18:21  |  Shelley 17/10/07
  137.   ravi...re. efox......muslims in india 18:23  |  maria 17/10/07
  138.   US embassy in Jerusalem (Polybius, JN) 18:24  |  Tosefta 17/10/07
  139.   #98 - Ivar knows not of what he speaks 18:26  |  MichaelF 17/10/07
  140.   # 8 Walid The arabs & E Jerusalem 18:31  |  Abushanab Alfayoumi 17/10/07
  141.   a divided Yerushalayim ? -NEVER !! 18:31  |  Judah N. Wenkel 17/10/07
  142.   The truth, HT, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth 18:41  |  Ivar 17/10/07
  143.   15 18:43  |  zionist forever 17/10/07
  144.   Hannah # 110 18:43  |  Judah N. Wenkel 17/10/07
  145.   Shragai, when you`re right you`re right... 18:45  |  Kol ha-Nevi`im 17/10/07
  146.   Hard Talk #109 on Ivar 18:47  |  Polybios 17/10/07
  147.   Arab `openness` has been disproved time and time again 18:51  |  Chick 17/10/07
  148.   Isn`t it writen you shall not 18:53  |  Kris 17/10/07
  149.   To #15 19:06  |  Michael Greenberg 17/10/07
  150.   talk of division.. 19:07  |  khairi janbek 17/10/07
  151.   # 14 Jerusalem is as holy and sacred 19:15  |  Kris 17/10/07
  152.   My solution-part 1 19:16  |  Michael Greenberg 17/10/07
  153.   Xuan the Basque 19:26  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 17/10/07
  154.   "A Clear and Present Danger" 19:27  |  Sandman 17/10/07
  155.   #88 Polybios part 1 19:27  |  Labhras 17/10/07
  156.   Kris 19:28  |  Ray 17/10/07
  157.   My solution -Part 2 19:28  |  M ichael Greenberg 17/10/07
  158.   No Way Out 19:30  |  George 17/10/07
  159.   #88 Polybios part 2 19:39  |  Labhras 17/10/07
  160.   Howdy jeff,no country,including America,israel`s closest friend, 19:40  |  lakshmi 17/10/07
  161.   #111 KRIS: and the Moslems are NOT obsessed with 19:41  |  Hard Talk 17/10/07
  162.   Kris doesn`t believe that stones can be sacred 19:51  |  Jake 17/10/07
  163.   The Author Speaks Wisely, Heed his words! 19:53  |  Mark Hamil 17/10/07
  164.   Labhras #144 19:57  |  Polybios 17/10/07
  165.   Zionist forever, there`s no point replying to them 20:05  |  Jake 17/10/07
  166.   #121 Polybios 20:07  |  Hard Talk 17/10/07
  167.   # 146 M Greenberg 20:15  |  Efrayim Kirsh 17/10/07
  168.   # 92 maria That is more like it. 20:20  |  Labhras 17/10/07
  169.   Yerushalayim ,the golden 20:29  |  Avrohom BenTsur 17/10/07
  170.   Danites Plan for World peace 20:33  |  Danite 17/10/07
  171.   Allah/ Jerusalem 20:37  |  S.Henry 17/10/07
  172.   #114 Hannah 20:46  |  Daybreak 17/10/07
  173.   JERUSALEM MUST NOT BE DIVIDED 20:51  |  M.Ourner 17/10/07
  174.   Perhaps the story 20:58  |  Steve 17/10/07
  175.   Labhras - 2d try 20:58  |  Polybios 17/10/07
  176.   #131 IVAR: why don´t you quote the Koran directly? 21:08  |  Hard Talk 17/10/07
  177.   Labhras 21:18  |  danite 17/10/07
  178.   Hard Talk #147 21:18  |  Polybios 17/10/07
  179.   Jane #22 21:30  |  TonyL 17/10/07
  180.   Labhras (3d attempt) 21:33  |  Polybios 17/10/07
  181.   Tosefta # 127 That Isn`t The Reason Though 21:45  |  Jeff Northridge 17/10/07
  182.   United Jerusalem LeTamid 21:47  |  Rai de la Nano 17/10/07
  183.   Prophecy about Israel 21:48  |  Truth in Scripture 17/10/07
  184.   Swiss (Dino) #124 21:52  |  Gil 17/10/07
  185.   Ceeding control of Jerusalem to Arab Muslims 22:05  |  Pastor Frank William 17/10/07
  186.   Israel according to God 22:06  |  Truth prevails 17/10/07
  187.   Like I Said Weeks Ago 22:11  |  Avi Yerushalmi 17/10/07
  188.   #159 Polybios re written part 2 22:18  |  Labhras 17/10/07
  189.   To Margie from Tel Aviv 22:21  |  xaun 17/10/07
  190.   #156 danite 22:26  |  Labhras 17/10/07
  191.   Lets bypass all this Israeli gobbly gook. 22:33  |  Ibrahim 17/10/07
  192.   "There are no gay muslims" Hannah 22:34  |  Anthony 17/10/07
  193.   About respect of faiths 22:45  |  xaun 17/10/07
  194.   # 162 Gil, sorry but I stick to what I said..... 22:53  |  Swiss (Dino) 17/10/07
  195.   Hannah - Yiddish 22:57  |  Yiddishist 17/10/07
  196.   #178 Ibrahim 23:09  |  Labhras 17/10/07
  197.   #175 Pastor Frank William; your solidarity is hugely appreciated 23:18  |  a grateful Jew 17/10/07
  198.   Xuan 23:20  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 17/10/07
  199.   To xaun # 180 - Correction re Palestine.... 23:23  |  Dagma 17/10/07
  200.   Instead of speculating.. (Jeff Northridge #171) 23:26  |  Tosefta 17/10/07
  201.   Are swiss as dumb as all that? 23:26  |  peter 17/10/07
  202.   #176 xaun re margie. 23:27  |  Labhras 17/10/07
  203.   #183 Xaun: your ignorance is thick! 23:33  |  Hard Talk 17/10/07
  204.   Hannah 15 23:38  |  Mark 17/10/07
  205.   To Labhras # 175 - Dividing the Region of Palestine 23:40  |  Dagma 17/10/07
  206.   Hard Talk the racist 23:41  |  xaun 17/10/07
  207.   Greenbergs solution? 23:46  |  xaun 17/10/07
  208.   To Xauan, As long Jews were Dhimmi 23:48  |  Not a Dhimmi no more 17/10/07
  209.   #137, Mt. Moriah topographical map vindicates my argument 23:57  |  Ivar 17/10/07
  210.   One United Jerusalem as capital of both 23:58  |  BIG 17/10/07
  211.   A good value for the price? No sale 00:05  |  Jason from colorado 18/10/07
  212.   Labhras okay then 00:24  |  Danite 18/10/07
  213.   Tosefta "instead of speculating" 00:40  |  Danite 18/10/07
  214.   Truth prevails # 176 Oh, God! 00:44  |  Jeff Northridge 18/10/07
  215.   #191 Xaun: go to www.seconddraft.com 00:44  |  Hard Talk 18/10/07
  216.   # 186 peter and more (freezing) spin from Canada......... 00:48  |  Swiss (Dino) 18/10/07
  217.   #1. Nattalie DURSON Very sensible asssessment. 01:06  |  Sandy 18/10/07
  218.   #183.xaun. Many thanks for your truthful POST. 01:12  |  Antoine 18/10/07
  219.   Truth prevails # 176 Oh, God! Addendum 01:17  |  Jeff Northridge 18/10/07
  220.   #192. xuan. Totally Agree with your suggestion A BINATIONAL 01:19  |  FRED 18/10/07
  221.   Why Envision? Just look to the Past! 01:31  |  Sharif Hafez 18/10/07
  222.   Mr.Shragai I Just Couldn`t Finish Reading Your Article... 01:37  |  KATH` 18/10/07
  223.   Natallie is always the first to burf out 01:39  |  TOMY 18/10/07
  224.   Kadima has no mandate at all to surrender anything 01:40  |  Joseph E . 18/10/07
  225.   Tosefta #186 re; Jeff N 01:45  |  TonyL 18/10/07
  226.   boiling pot 01:46  |  Robert Slocum 18/10/07
  227.   #15 Arab Hannah is threatenning again 01:54  |  TOMY 18/10/07
  228.   #67, Shimon, Things were pretty quiet before Sharon intifada 02:00  |  newageblues 18/10/07
  229.   Mr. Shragai TO EVERY GOOD JEW HERE;WILL NEVER BE ALLOWED TOHAPPEN 02:06  |  KATH` 18/10/07
  230.   183 and history 02:38  |  Inigo Montoya 18/10/07
  231.   History Lesson 02:41  |  Buster 18/10/07
  232.   xuan #183 What about? 02:43  |  Polybios 18/10/07
  233.   Edith #11 02:54  |  Lynn 18/10/07
  234.   jerusalem 03:17  |  dev 18/10/07
  235.   #42, Petra...re; Hannah 04:02  |  Silvienne 18/10/07
  236.   #171 Not so fast Jeff 05:04  |  Johnboy 18/10/07
  237.   Nadav Shragai envisions Jerusalem not at peace with Arabs in this 05:09  |  Smadar 18/10/07
  238.   There`s Enough Room 06:14  |  Jeff Northridge 18/10/07
  239.   to haanah 06:18  |  danny 18/10/07
  240.   NTW, no peace in our time 06:28  |  Voice of Reason 18/10/07
  241.   #215 Inigo Montoya 06:36  |  hala 18/10/07
  242.   Sharif Hafez and the past # 210 06:39  |  Philippe 18/10/07
  243.   #184, Dino 06:45  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/10/07
  244.   the lemmings are among us 06:49  |  Mark 18/10/07
  245.   Hannah 07:05  |  David 18/10/07
  246.   Interesting analogy 07:12  |  David 18/10/07
  247.   BUILD THE TEMPLE 07:12  |  real vision 18/10/07
  248.   Why are we even discussing giving up land 07:17  |  David 18/10/07
  249.   jerusalem eternal undivided capital of israel 07:25  |  Daniel 18/10/07
  250.   #209- maybe the swiss are that dumb after all 07:34  |  peter 18/10/07
  251.   To all of anti Jews and leftist that have draems.Keep dreaming 07:41  |  e.m 18/10/07
  252.   Jerusalem 07:42  |  RALPH 18/10/07
  253.   NO TO A DIVIDED JERUSALEM 09:01  |  Levi 18/10/07
  254.   Dividing of Jerusalem 09:07  |  Marilyn 18/10/07
  255.   # 250 peter and "people who don`t get it" 10:35  |  Swiss (Dino) 18/10/07
  256.   # 243 Cipora Julianna Kohn 10:43  |  Swiss (Dino) 18/10/07
  257.   #215 CORRECTION: www.seconddraft.org 11:17  |  Icon of Hatred 18/10/07
  258.   #193 20:58  |  Moshe 18/10/07
  259.   Holy Jewish Temple 00:01  |  Holy Truth by God 20/10/07
  260.   Jerusalem 01:47  |  Ya`akov Nachum Miles 26/10/07
  261.   eryhcyu 16:49  |  unzola 11/11/07
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