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Israel worried PA will harden its stance ahead of peace summit
By Barak Ravid, Avi Issacharoff, Shlomo Shamir and Aluf Benn, Haaretz Correspondents and Agencies

Israel is concerned over a hardening of Palestinian positions ahead of the first meeting, to be held on Tuesday, of the Israeli and Palestinian negotiating teams working on a joint statement before November's regional peace conference.

A senior government official close to the talks between Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas said "the real gaps between the parties will be revealed for the first time" at the meeting.

Abbas and Olmert will meet at Olmert's Jerusalem residence, where the PA chairman and his team will be guests in Olmert's sukkah.

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Meanwhile, Abbas met Sunday with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak in Cairo for talks that centered on the agenda for the upcoming conference.

"We have to go there with a clear and specific document, after which it could be possible to start detailed negotiations on what we call final status issues," Abbas said after the meeting.

"I believe that going there with a general statement would not be beneficial," he said.

Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit said U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice would visit the region in mid-October "for consultations with the Palestinian and Israeli parties, Egypt and maybe other Arab states to prepare for the conference", the official Middle East News Agency reported.

Since the militant Hamas took over the Gaza Strip in June, Israel has been working to strengthen Abbas' more moderate Fatah faction, whose leadership is now confined to the West Bank.

The regional conference, which the U.S. has announced will take place at the Naval Academy in Annapolis, Maryland, is one of the considerations preventing a large-scale military operation in the Gaza Strip, a senior security source said last week.

"If there are five weeks left until the conference, would it be right to be in the midst of a large-scale operation in Gaza at that time? Is that what will bring the Saudis, or even Abbas?" the source said. The remark came in the context of Defense Minister Ehud Barak's recent statement that each day brings the decision on a large-scale operation closer.

On Monday, Israel is to release 90 Palestinian prisoners as a gesture for the Muslim holiday Ramadan. The government official noted that no new gestures would be offered at Tuesday's meeting.

The official also said that the groups advising Abbas, particularly the Negotiations Support Unit (NSU) headed by Saeb Erekat and composed of Palestinian and other Arab legal experts born or educated in the U.S. or Europe, are hardening their stances ahead of the conference.

Israel sees the NSU as a "diplomatic elite unit" responsible for the opinion handed down by the International Court of Justice in The Hague that the separation fence violates international law.

A senior official said the NSU is presenting Abbas with position papers demanding a schedule for progress following November's regional conference in Washington. The NSU also opposes dividing Jerusalem based on demographic considerations and insists on a division based on the 1967 borders. "This is a non-starter" the official said.

However, Abbas told U.S. media outlets recently that the Palestinian Authority would not agree to the Clinton plan ceding to it 92 percent of the West Bank and would insist on full Israeli withdrawal to the 1967 lines.

The Palestinians have been pressing a reluctant Israel to discuss in depth matters at the core of any future agreement on Palestinian statehood - the shape of final borders and the fate of Jerusalem and Palestinian refugees. Israel is pursuing a vaguer track, and has said hopes the conference will yield only a "declaration of principles."

"Israel's main message to the Arab countries is that it is their duty to support and encourage moderate Palestinians without demands and preconditions," Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni told Haaretz Saturday. "We are telling the Arabs, 'if they [the Palestinians] want to compromise, don't judge them. Don't present demands and don't dictate the outcome of the conflict,'" Livni said. "Our message to the Arab leaders is 'don't be more Palestinian than the Palestinians.'"

Livni also said that instead of waiting for the end of the process, "for every positive step of Israel toward the Palestinians, the Arab countries should respond with a positive step toward Israel."

Livni said it was "too early to tell" whether she had managed to promote a front of moderate Arab countries to assist the process, but that "there is understanding of the common interests between the Arab world and Israel." Livni, who will be addressing the UN General Assembly Monday, also said "Israel should not give up its strategic interests during the process."

Livni tried to dissuade Abbas at an hour-long meeting Friday in New York from insisting on a schedule and an immediate solution to the core issues. She hopes he will agree to deal with consensus issues at this point. "We must be courageous in our decision making, but also smart enough to advance the process in a realistic way, preventing it from failing," Livni said she told Abbas.

In an interview with Agence France-Presse over the weekend, Abbas said that immediately after the summit, the parties would begin talks to reach a detailed and comprehensive agreement, and that the talks would follow a schedule that would not exceed six months.

He said representatives of the Quartet, the Arab League, the permanent members of the UN Security Council and the G8 would attend the conference, which he said would open on November 15. Abbas also said he hoped to reach agreement with Israel on a document ahead of the talks that would include clear principles.

Abbas confident Saudis will attend summit

Abbas expressed confidence in an article published Saturday that Saudi Arabia would attend the November peace conference.

Rice has said key regional players would be invited in an effort to give the meeting more sweep, but no invitations have been sent yet.

But regional powerhouse Saudi Arabia and other Arab nations have been reluctant to commit, first wanting proof the meeting will address the conflict's most divisive issues, like final borders, the status of disputed Jerusalem and Palestinian demands to repatriate refugees displaced by the 1948 war that accompanied Israel's creation.

In an interview released Saturday on the Washington Post Web site, Abbas said he met with Saudi Arabia's foreign minister and came away with the impression that a delegation from Riyadh would attend.

"Saudi Arabia had reservations in the beginning because the whole situation was very vague. Now everything is clear," Abbas said. "Yesterday, I met with Prince Saud al-Faisal, and he was satisfied. So I believe they will attend the conference."

In New York on Wednesday, the prince described his talks with U.S. officials about the meeting as encouraging, but would not commit his country's participation. Saudi Arabia does not have ties with Israel, but has proposed a sweeping peace plan endorsed by the Arab League that offers full recognition of Israel in exchange for a total withdrawal from lands it captured in the 1967 Six-Day War and the creation of a Palestinian state.



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  1.   Congregation of dark forces and the slaughter house 00:29  |  Brod 30/09/07
  2.   The impossible 01:59  |  Paul 30/09/07
  3.   israel is the occupier. want peace, give it up! 03:25  |  bashar 30/09/07
  4.   Did Abbas learn from Oslo? 03:30  |  El-birawi 30/09/07
  5.   DECEPTION for Expansionist Islam. WICKED LIE of Occupation 03:34  |  Linda Rivera 30/09/07
  6.   GOOD FOR ABBAS! With Israel...There Is No Other Way. 03:36  |  Proud Pal Defender 30/09/07
  7.   One MILLION JEWISH Refugees & Descendants Must Be Compensated 03:36  |  Linda Rivera 30/09/07
  8.   Hardening stance? 03:52  |  Harold 30/09/07
  9.   Please tell me 03:58  |  Harold 30/09/07
  10.   Israel should bomb the conference 04:00  |  Harold 30/09/07
  11.   40 YEARS OF ARAB FAILURE 04:01  |  Brant 30/09/07
  12.   Stick to Your Guns 04:02  |  Abe 30/09/07
  13.   PA,, Arab League and Saudis are back to the 3 "No`s" of 1968 - 04:03  |  Dr. L. Brnd 30/09/07
  14.   The Games Continue 04:07  |  Chaim Gorenstein 30/09/07
  15.   Saudi Arabia`s Planned JIHAD AGAINST U.S/OTHER COUNTRIES 04:12  |  Linda Rivera 30/09/07
  16.   Where is the give and take? 04:14  |  R 30/09/07
  17.   The Arabs will only recognize a temp. extremely vulnerable Israel 04:20  |  Pavel 30/09/07
  18.   GOOD FOR ABBAS! With Israel...There Is No Other Way. 04:24  |  Proud Pal Defender 30/09/07
  19.   EGYPTIAN State-Controlled Paper PRAISED TEL AVIV BOMBING of Jews 04:28  |  Linda Rivera 30/09/07
  20.   The Pali hard line 04:42  |  ottomatik 30/09/07
  21.   Abbas: "Raise RIFLES Against the ISRAELI Occupation" 04:48  |  Linda Rivera 30/09/07
  22.   Scheme 04:53  |  Paul 30/09/07
  23.   It has been Israel`s longer than PA! 04:58  |  Paul 30/09/07
  24.   Planned Failure 05:02  |  Ron 30/09/07
  25.   What did you expect? 05:05  |  ralphsrant1 30/09/07
  26.   Caught with hand in the cookie jar 05:08  |  Harold 30/09/07
  27.   the quisling talks about total withdrawal from west bank,not good 05:13  |  lakshmi 30/09/07
  28.   Hardening position 05:17  |  Otto Rand 30/09/07
  29.   summit 05:31  |  Shmuelshachor 30/09/07
  30.   Abbas demands progress... What nerve!! 05:43  |  Natallie Durson 30/09/07
  31.   Olmert is time to ... 05:54  |  Danite 30/09/07
  32.   israel needs to harden its demand 06:02  |  vik 30/09/07
  33.   Do not wasting the time the final solution is Jordan Palestine St 06:18  |  e.m 30/09/07
  34.   wont work... 06:36  |  ravi 30/09/07
  35.   # 30 Yep, Fatmah, summit will be a waiste... 07:11  |  Misha 30/09/07
  36.   "Hardens"? 07:33  |  Mark Lincoln 30/09/07
  37.   Abbas maybe listening to his people at last? 07:40  |  Palestinian Brit 30/09/07
  38.   @8-10, harold, pals deserve nothing and will get nothing 07:40  |  vladimir 30/09/07
  39.   This "peace process" is the greatest sham, as in sham poo! 07:51  |  Uzi 30/09/07
  40.   Why there can never be any separate Arab political entity west of 07:53  |  Uzi 30/09/07
  41.   The win-win plan; everybody win! 07:55  |  Uzi 30/09/07
  42.   @28, otto rand you are idiot and please don´t give your 07:57  |  vladimir 30/09/07
  43.   Olmert`s sukkah 08:21  |  akiva (zionist) 30/09/07
  44.   e.m 08:23  |  akiva (zionist) 30/09/07
  45.   Natallie Durson, I delight in avoiding your posts! 08:26  |  akiva (zionist) 30/09/07
  46.   Linda, yes. They are planning to kill Israel. It will boomerang. 08:37  |  Pavel 30/09/07
  47.   PA hardens demands ahead of peace summit 09:00  |  Martin List,M.D. 30/09/07
  48.   is Abbas really different from Hanieh??? 09:18  |  michel 30/09/07
  49.   PA hardens demands..... 09:19  |  Esther 30/09/07
  50.   The Saudi Plan models peace with ALL Arab states 09:21  |  Ivar 30/09/07
  51.   the conference is headed for failure 09:25  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 30/09/07
  52.   What right does Israel have to exist... 09:36  |  Taimur 30/09/07
  53.   Making impossible demands 09:37  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 30/09/07
  54.   Dear Lakshmi 09:38  |  Israeli 30/09/07
  55.   the game for no deal is being played out now 09:43  |  victor hardman 30/09/07
  56.   The Right-Wing Wackos Are In Full Voice 09:47  |  chet 30/09/07
  57.   The more you give to Arabs.... 09:50  |  Pathfinder 30/09/07
  58.   DON`T PUSH IT ABBAS, OR.. 09:56  |  indrajaya 30/09/07
  59.   ARABS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN KNOWN FOR TAKING THE WRONG DECISIONS 10:01  |  Robert 30/09/07
  60.   Israel wants platitudes and vanilla declarations from the summit 10:08  |  Clickfool 30/09/07
  61.   Idiotic Israelis will give up on everything 10:08  |  Absolute Sweden 30/09/07
  62.   negotiations with ABBAS 10:20  |  Roland Nilsson 30/09/07
  63.   Just thinking about this gives me a headache! 10:22  |  Nechama 30/09/07
  64.   Return to 1967 in return for no Palestinian return 10:23  |  Ivar 30/09/07
  65.   Israel`s `gesture` for Ramadan. How sweet! 10:24  |  Nechama 30/09/07
  66.   bashar us #3 10:26  |  Nechama 30/09/07
  67.   Ivar 10:33  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 30/09/07
  68.   revealed for the first time 10:35  |  akiva (zionist) 30/09/07
  69.   why lakshmi hates israel 10:36  |  dumdumwallah 30/09/07
  70.   Israel sees the NSU as a "diplomatic elite unit" 10:38  |  akiva (zionist) 30/09/07
  71.   FAKE Clickfool #46 10:42  |  Clickfool 30/09/07
  72.   lakshmi`s purpose according to her posts 10:44  |  pani 30/09/07
  73.   Ivar 10:45  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 30/09/07
  74.   akshmi few palestinians are as badly off as 90% of indians 10:48  |  babrimosque 30/09/07
  75.   Olmert & Livni will SELL Israel to remain in POWER 10:48  |  Dr. Dave 30/09/07
  76.   lakshmi it would be appropriate for advanced nations 10:51  |  sonia gandhi 30/09/07
  77.   ISrael Should NOT worry at all 10:53  |  MiddleStanian 30/09/07
  78.   #58 the yellow streak and the impossible dream 10:55  |  victor hardman 30/09/07
  79.   The silliness of Akiva`s post (# 43) escapes him 10:56  |  Clickfool 30/09/07
  80.   Period before the conference a determining factor 10:56  |  Tzfonit 30/09/07
  81.   #62ivar takes the high rd to nowhere 10:57  |  victor hardman 30/09/07
  82.   the peace conference is total crap 10:57  |  yaheskel 30/09/07
  83.   #69 the yellow streak whistles in the dark because the bogeyman 10:59  |  victor hardman 30/09/07
  84.   why is israel wasting its time on this nonsense 11:02  |  elonmoreh 30/09/07
  85.   90 our 10000 hostages is NOT A GESTURE 11:21  |  Reem 30/09/07
  86.   Shifting Alliances in Muslim World 11:25  |  Jane 30/09/07
  87.   What`s the right for Israel to exist? 11:29  |  M. 30/09/07
  88.   lakshmi confesses she has never met jews and zionists 11:35  |  bhai bhai 30/09/07
  89.   #97 M, Israel`s `right to exist` 11:56  |  Boycott 30/09/07
  90.   Please. place MONEY on the debating table FIRST! 12:02  |  Alice of Wonderland 30/09/07
  91.   #64 IVAR: what was there in-48? BRITISH OCCUPATION! 12:05  |  Alice of Wonderland 30/09/07
  92.   I second -67: the WB back to Jordan and Gaza to Egypt! 12:07  |  Alice of Wonderful 30/09/07
  93.   #89 i wonder if boycott could explain his post to me ? 12:08  |  victor hardman 30/09/07
  94.   "Israel is pursuing a vaguer track" 12:18  |  Axel 30/09/07
  95.   : Harold it`s the terror stupid! 12:25  |  akiva (zionist) 30/09/07
  96.   More painful consessions with negative results 12:26  |  Avi 30/09/07
  97.   Clickfool 12:31  |  akiva (zionist) 30/09/07
  98.   Clickfool of Sussex ,...silliness ! 12:36  |  akiva (zionist) 30/09/07
  99.   #94axel asks the $64 question "peace or not " 12:40  |  victor hardman 30/09/07
  100.   The more you give to Arabs 12:45  |  Pathfinder 30/09/07
  101.   Speaking fo the Saudi`s (on Arab psychology) 12:52  |  Avi 30/09/07
  102.   Clickfool you are daft 13:00  |  Avi 30/09/07
  103.   joke 13:10  |  kad 30/09/07
  104.   #21 Say Linda 13:19  |  ballistic 30/09/07
  105.   Linda stands facts on their head 13:25  |  Truth 30/09/07
  106.   Olmert and Livni: with due respect: GET REAL! 13:25  |  Alice of Wonderland 30/09/07
  107.   To HAROLD # 8 "It`s the OCCUPATION, stupid" 13:27  |  Dagma 30/09/07
  108.   52Taimur,the zionist project began long before the Holocaust.It 13:31  |  lakshmi 30/09/07
  109.   why waste time anyways.... 13:40  |  Mike 30/09/07
  110.   #103 KAD: Olmert did say "NO" once! 13:46  |  Alice of Wonderland 30/09/07
  111.   "Yet here you are", clickfool 13:48  |  akiva (zionist) 30/09/07
  112.   Israel should fear Olmert not Abbas 13:52  |  Jonathan S 30/09/07
  113.   dana neeman and einstein 14:00  |  danaofarabia 30/09/07
  114.   Abbas knows he is DOOMED if he tries to make peace 14:04  |  The Equalizer 30/09/07
  115.   Promising start 14:05  |  Chaim 30/09/07
  116.   daft and deft. 14:07  |  akiva (zionist) 30/09/07
  117.   Clickfool and Indrajaya. I won`t read your comments anymore 14:09  |  Isac 30/09/07
  118.   If Abbas expects 1967 lines+refugees-whats there to talk about? 14:13  |  Alan 30/09/07
  119.   Me speak Hungarian 14:29  |  Talkback babytalk 30/09/07
  120.   WHAT ABOUT THE CREMIEUX DECREE ? to Linda Riviera 14:33  |  Serenity 30/09/07
  121.   to Boycott about humiliation 14:35  |  Jasmine Murphy 30/09/07
  122.   For my new friend, Akiva # 111 14:37  |  Clickfool 30/09/07
  123.   For Isac in Florida # 117 14:41  |  Clickfool 30/09/07
  124.   To Robert #59 14:44  |  Serenity 30/09/07
  125.   On Livni`s words 14:44  |  christoph 30/09/07
  126.   How about Israel swaps with Palestine? 14:53  |  Taimur 30/09/07
  127.   To Nechama 14:54  |  Serenity 30/09/07
  128.   Hamas is the Democratically Elected Gov.t ! Not Abbas 14:55  |  Mike 30/09/07
  129.   To CF #123 and Florida #117 15:00  |  Serenity 30/09/07
  130.   #118 Alan: he doesn`t expect both. 15:02  |  Rebekah S 30/09/07
  131.   It is NOT believable that the two sides are unaware of the others 15:09  |  a wandering Jew 30/09/07
  132.   Margie of SA #67 15:16  |  Gabe1 always 30/09/07
  133.   #128 Mike: Even Hamas recognizes 15:20  |  Rebekah S 30/09/07
  134.   Durson # 30 15:46  |  Sabra 30/09/07
  135.   Reply to 107 15:46  |  Billy T 30/09/07
  136.   Clickfool # 122 15:52  |  Sabra 30/09/07
  137.   #104 The CRIME Against INNOCENTS - Thousands of US Assault Rifles 15:57  |  Linda Rivera 30/09/07
  138.   #105 There NEVER was an Arab country of Palestine. 16:05  |  Linda Rivera 30/09/07
  139.   Funny, Abbas softened his stance considerably 16:08  |  Tosefta 30/09/07
  140.   #105 UN Decree: Arabs who Resided in Palestine ONLY 2 YEARS... 16:09  |  Linda Rivera 30/09/07
  141.   THE THREE THINGS ABBAS WILL NEVER GET 16:14  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 30/09/07
  142.   #8-#9-#10 To Harold 16:22  |  John Allen 30/09/07
  143.   13 Thanks Doc. we need more bloggers 16:29  |  John Allen 30/09/07
  144.   If all goes well......... 16:30  |  Philip 30/09/07
  145.   To Rebekah # 133 - The PA ..... 16:32  |  Dolly 30/09/07
  146.   53 Margie in Tel Aviv - Looking for Counteroffer 16:37  |  Mark of Lewiston 30/09/07
  147.   (;-) CF 16:38  |  akiva (zionist) 30/09/07
  148.   For PA read IDF? 16:41  |  JW 30/09/07
  149.   Jane @86 16:46  |  Hanem5 30/09/07
  150.   Why not ask for more? 16:46  |  Mark Lincoln 30/09/07
  151.   PLO 16:50  |  Mark Bernadiner 30/09/07
  152.   Olmert, Livi and Peres are fools 16:58  |  Ken Jurist 30/09/07
  153.   Arabs want a Palestinian state with ROR, but dont want Kurd state 17:00  |  Ken Jurist 30/09/07
  154.   Tosefta - Did you like "Va Pensiero" by Verdi? 17:02  |  17 30/09/07
  155.   The Responsibility of ARAB LEADERS. 17:07  |  Dagma 30/09/07
  156.   Honest answer to Philip #144 17:21  |  Serenity 30/09/07
  157.   #144 Your scenario doesn`t invite honest 17:40  |  Rebekah S 30/09/07
  158.   Ballistic 18:02  |  puzzled. 30/09/07
  159.   #145 If it makes you feel better to think 18:04  |  Rebekah S 30/09/07
  160.   There could be a motive behind PA`s hardened stance before 18:09  |  Smadar 30/09/07
  161.   # 149 hanem5 18:10  |  Axel 30/09/07
  162.   then israel better say in loud clear voice NO GO, GO Home think 18:11  |  ralph 30/09/07
  163.   Institutional memory in Israel (Rebekah S #130) 18:12  |  Tosefta 30/09/07
  164.   Sorry to let you know (Tov-17 #154) 18:15  |  Tosefta 30/09/07
  165.   To JON FEIGENBAUM # 141 - THE ONE THING 18:16  |  Dagma 30/09/07
  166.   To Philip # 144 - "A withered Israel"..... 18:35  |  Dolly 30/09/07
  167.   Serenity # 156 The Willing Suspension of Disbelief 19:05  |  Jeff Northridge 30/09/07
  168.   DAGMA 165 I AGREE 19:17  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 30/09/07
  169.   Arafat - Abu Mazen = Zero 19:17  |  Nora 30/09/07
  170.   Cutting our Losses and theirs 19:19  |  larry 30/09/07
  171.   (;-) CF 19:36  |  akiva (zionist) 30/09/07
  172.   Changing the terms at the end is a great way to break a deal!! 19:37  |  a wandering Jew 30/09/07
  173.   # 28 Otto Rand..You stay In Mexico No More Giving ENOUGH ISENOUGH 19:38  |  KATH` 30/09/07
  174.   Slowman`s wisdom on skipping posts 19:39  |  Avi Issacharoff 30/09/07
  175.   how hard, is hard? 19:41  |  khairi janbek 30/09/07
  176.   # 35 Misha.. Right first time...Nothing but empty Talk .. 19:43  |  KATH` 30/09/07
  177.   #163 Tosefta - on Olmert 19:43  |  Rebekah S 30/09/07
  178.   stone age thinking 19:46  |  dav zee 30/09/07
  179.   # 48 michel. is Abass really different from Haniyeh?Simply Put NO 19:46  |  KATH` 30/09/07
  180.   Olmert perfect patsy for a patsy Israel 19:52  |  Chick 30/09/07
  181.   # 49 Oy vey Esther,Are You Ashamed to put Israel instead of Is` 19:53  |  KATH` 30/09/07
  182.   Harm-us (hamas) 19:54  |  dav zee 30/09/07
  183.   # 164 Tosefta - Thank you for responding - 19:59  |  17 30/09/07
  184.   # 51 Cipora J.K I was about to Say It.Doomed Before it Begins 20:00  |  KATH` 30/09/07
  185.   #163 Tosefta - on Livni 20:02  |  Rebekah S 30/09/07
  186.   # 55 Victor Hardman. One of Many in The Arab World 20:03  |  KATH` 30/09/07
  187.   rebekah s amazing woman 20:08  |  andifnot 30/09/07
  188.   # 57 Pathfinder.Well Said.Wish You`d Find a Path forDELUDEDOLMERR 20:10  |  KATH` 30/09/07
  189.   rebakah s and quds al arabi 20:12  |  abdelbariatwan 30/09/07
  190.   # 61 Absolute Sweden.NO WE WILL NOT... 20:15  |  KATH` 30/09/07
  191.   rabekah s "the palestinians are shocked and olmert is lying" 20:16  |  abdelbariatwan 30/09/07
  192.   #112 Jonathan S: Bush is a businessman NOT a politician! 20:16  |  Alice of Wonderland 30/09/07
  193.   # 63 Nechama.Giving you a Headache? I just feel Like Vomitting 20:19  |  KATH` 30/09/07
  194.   rabekah s and palestinian migrants 20:20  |  elmasri 30/09/07
  195.   # 67 Margie in Tel Aviv.How Well Put.Exactly!! 20:21  |  KATH` 30/09/07
  196.   rebekah s 20:26  |  elmasri 30/09/07
  197.   # 172 wondering Jew.Please Stay in Ireland we Don`tNeed You.. 20:31  |  KATH` 30/09/07
  198.   Hardening stance = wanting to talk about a real peace... 20:33  |  peacelover 30/09/07
  199.   # 159 Rebekah S NO DEAL REBEKAH S..STAY AWAY FROM ISRAEL .. 20:37  |  KATH` 30/09/07
  200.   Rebekah S # 159 Palestinian Refugees (part 1) 20:42  |  Jeff Northridge 30/09/07
  201.   Axel of Germany 20:42  |  Hanem5 30/09/07
  202.   # 157 Rebekha S my Opinion of You is THIS:YOU LIKE TO PONTIFICATE 20:44  |  KATH` 30/09/07
  203.   rabekah s palestinians return to the west bank 20:49  |  elmasri 30/09/07
  204.   It appears that the Israelis are shifting into myth making mode: 20:51  |  Apartheid 30/09/07
  205.   # 177 Rebekha S. OH HOW LOVELY,A NEW RECRUIT FOR TOSEFTA.. 20:57  |  KATH` 30/09/07
  206.   Olmert and Livni (Rebekah S #185) 20:59  |  Tosefta 30/09/07
  207.   rabekah s what are you accusing livni of? 21:04  |  elmasri 30/09/07
  208.   kATH 21:04  |  GABE1 forever 30/09/07
  209.   # 178 dav zee.GOOD POST,SEND REBEKHA TO THE PALIS PRONTO.. 21:05  |  KATH` 30/09/07
  210.   For Alice about a businessman 21:08  |  Jonathan S 30/09/07
  211.   # 194 elmasri. THIS WOMAN IS A PLANT... 21:08  |  KATH` 30/09/07
  212.   194 IT MAKES MY STOMACH TURN 21:10  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 30/09/07
  213.   Jewish Cowards 21:15  |  Gabe1 Always 30/09/07
  214.   No.195 KATH` 21:15  |  a wandering Jew 30/09/07
  215.   Rebekah S # 159 Palestinian Refugees (part 2) 21:17  |  Jeff Northridge 30/09/07
  216.   #187 andifnot.Did You Say an Amazing Woman?She is a Snake.. 21:19  |  KATH` 30/09/07
  217.   #172 Wandering Jew; that´s a smart advice you gave! 21:25  |  Alice of Wonderland 30/09/07
  218.   DOLLY 166 NEGATIVE!! -HAARETZ THIRD TRY 21:27  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 30/09/07
  219.   to Rebekah (and Serenity...) 21:31  |  Philip 30/09/07
  220.   #189 abdelbariarwan. THIS WOMAN WAS JUST A PLANT.READ ON 21:32  |  KATH` 30/09/07
  221.   LINDA RIVERA -All Posts 21:39  |  GABE1 forever 30/09/07
  222.   kath i honour your verve and enthusiasm 21:42  |  elmasri 30/09/07
  223.   This Rebekah woman is probably Tosefta in drag 21:45  |  Any name at all 30/09/07
  224.   Palestinian Refugee: Prepare for Nationhood 21:45  |  Reader 30/09/07
  225.   another point of view, continued 21:45  |  Margaret 30/09/07
  226.   another point of view, finished 21:47  |  Margaret 30/09/07
  227.   215 Jeff. Since when are people who flee fighting not allowed to 21:52  |  Apartheid 30/09/07
  228.   #202 Kath Flatters herself 21:52  |  Labhras 30/09/07
  229.   251 Jeff: So the Israeli campaign to encourage Jews in the Middle 21:57  |  Apartheid 30/09/07
  230.   Sorry Basher#3 - Pals had the option for 40 years 22:02  |  William 30/09/07
  231.   Rebekah S # 159 Palestinian Refugees (part 3) 22:04  |  Jeff Northridge 30/09/07
  232.   Proud Pal El-Birawi #4 22:07  |  William 30/09/07
  233.   No Kath that`s not dana 22:07  |  Jasmine Murphy 30/09/07
  234.   Akiva#43 on Olmert`s Sukkah 22:09  |  William 30/09/07
  235.   #210 Jonathan S: I partly agree with you 22:13  |  Alice of Wonderland 30/09/07
  236.   200 Jeff: The absentee land lords you refer to owned a lot of 22:13  |  Apartheid 30/09/07
  237.   #228 labarse recognises the articulate but misinformed 22:22  |  victor hardman 30/09/07
  238.   231 Jeff. The right of reurn is not a suggestion. It is a 22:23  |  Apartheid 30/09/07
  239.   Margaret 22:23  |  Israeli 30/09/07
  240.   No 217 Alice 22:27  |  a wandering Jew 30/09/07
  241.   # 233 Jasmine Murphy. I can Well Understand BUT! 22:27  |  KATH` 30/09/07
  242.   Tosefta - return of exiles 22:31  |  Mark Lincoln 30/09/07
  243.   To JON FEIGENBAUM # 168 - Re Israeli Borders 22:32  |  Dagma 30/09/07
  244.   Margie and Cipora 22:34  |  Danite 30/09/07
  245.   # 223 Any name at all.this Rebekha is probably Tosefta in drag.. 22:35  |  KATH` 30/09/07
  246.   239 Israeli You buy into a story where "They" are to blame for 22:38  |  Apartheid 30/09/07
  247.   another point of view part 1 22:38  |  Margaret 30/09/07
  248.   # 217 Alice of Wonderland.re:Wondering Jew..For goodness sake... 22:39  |  KATH` 30/09/07
  249.   DR DAVE.. U R A NUT 22:45  |  JOJO 30/09/07
  250.   # 214 I Am Not Going To Call You A Wondering Jew..Why Wonder?? 22:47  |  KATH` 30/09/07
  251.   APARTHEID 22:48  |  JOJO 30/09/07
  252.   mark Lincoln 22:52  |  Danite 30/09/07
  253.   another point of view continued 22:54  |  margaret 30/09/07
  254.   # 228 Labass.No labby I prefer Yours anytime..BUT! 22:57  |  KATH` 30/09/07
  255.   Some strange characters on this Talkback (Rebekah S) 22:57  |  Tosefta 30/09/07
  256.   another point of view finished 22:57  |  Margaret 30/09/07
  257.   meanwhile construction of the Aparthied Wall continues 22:59  |  Apartheid 30/09/07
  258.   Tosefta wrong 22:59  |  Danite 30/09/07
  259.   #229 apartheid and more phoney baloney 23:00  |  victor hardman 30/09/07
  260.   Apartheid 23:01  |  JOJO 30/09/07
  261.   All movement and trade is choked by humiliating road blocks 23:02  |  Apartheid 30/09/07
  262.   #238 Just wrong Again 23:02  |  Sandman 30/09/07
  263.   Pal "moderate" Faisal Husseini on negotiations as a Trojan horse 23:03  |  PETER SM 30/09/07
  264.   IDF officers plot which neighborhood they plan to shoot up next 23:03  |  Apartheid 30/09/07
  265.   Construction continues in the settlements 23:04  |  Apartheid 30/09/07
  266.   Settlers harass and intimidate Palestinians 23:06  |  Apartheid 30/09/07
  267.   Return (Mark Lincoln #242) 23:07  |  Tosefta 30/09/07
  268.   Soldiers scan the shoot to kill zone insidethe Wall and the Gaza 23:08  |  Apartheid 30/09/07
  269.   #248 KATH*: Hag sameach! 23:11  |  Alice of Wonderland 30/09/07
  270.   # 208 GABE1 forever. All I can say,is this.Quack,quack.Both Hamas 23:13  |  KATH` 30/09/07
  271.   # 243 dagma 23:14  |  Axel 30/09/07
  272.   # 165 dagma 23:23  |  Axel 30/09/07
  273.   # 166 Dolly.When will Olmert,or The World Realize that.. 23:27  |  KATH` 30/09/07
  274.   #226 Margaret 23:31  |  Labhras 30/09/07
  275.   No 248 23:34  |  a wandering Jew 30/09/07
  276.   # 145 Dolly.Just read your post to that So-Called rebekha.. 23:39  |  KATH` 30/09/07
  277.   Pharaoh of False Facts (Jeff Northridge #200; re Rebekah) 23:43  |  Tosefta 30/09/07
  278.   Return of the shallow multi-headed Hydra (aka flushman/elmasri) 23:46  |  Tosefta 30/09/07
  279.   Jasmine Murphy and distortion 23:47  |  Truths 30/09/07
  280.   Lind riviera and foaming at the mouth 23:51  |  Truth 30/09/07
  281.   UGY the she-camel`s owner (re Dumbite #258) 23:56  |  Tosefta 30/09/07
  282.   Riviera and nonsense 23:56  |  Truth 30/09/07
  283.   260 JOJO There were 450,000 people living in Palestine in 1881, 00:02  |  Apartheid 01/10/07
  284.   tveira man in your dreams 00:09  |  notone 01/10/07
  285.   Dear Israelis: after this summit, you´d better learn to swim! 00:10  |  Alice of Wonderland 01/10/07
  286.   # 279 Alice of Wonderland.First Things First Eh? 00:14  |  KATH` 01/10/07
  287.   To taimur on #52...what right 00:19  |  Shmuelshachor 01/10/07
  288.   kath that rabekha is anti israel is not in doubt 00:20  |  suzie q 01/10/07
  289.   Jasmine Murphy confused 00:22  |  Mois 01/10/07
  290.   Barak shuns Left. He believe Jordan is solution 00:24  |  e.m 01/10/07
  291.   Barak shuns left. Preparing to strike Gaza Part 2 00:29  |  e.m 01/10/07
  292.   # 271 Axel- "It does not privilege Israel to define what is `secu 00:29  |  17 01/10/07
  293.   # 257 Whoever You Are..Yes!The Wall Is Our Salvation. Read On.. 00:29  |  KATH` 01/10/07
  294.   #227 Apartheid re Jeff Northridge, 00:30  |  Labhras 01/10/07
  295.   # 268 WISHFULL THINKING ON YOUR PART.BOLONEY!! 00:34  |  KATH` 01/10/07
  296.   Apartheid # 227 Interesting Question 00:36  |  Jeff Northridge 01/10/07
  297.   # 261,#264,#265,#266,#268 Wow! Oh Yes Indeed.We are The Champions 00:43  |  KATH` 01/10/07
  298.   # 256 Margaret. While I APPLAIUD YOUR ZIONIZM,,,, 00:51  |  KATH` 01/10/07
  299.   Hanem5 - There are No Traps for Smart People 00:52  |  Jane 01/10/07
  300.   Tosefta - multiplication and amelioration 00:55  |  Mark Lincoln 01/10/07
  301.   Peter SM 01:00  |  Truths 01/10/07
  302.   Islamic tradition 01:05  |  Mark Lincoln 01/10/07
  303.   Tosefta - the burden of mythology 01:13  |  Mark Lincoln 01/10/07
  304.   Print the Myth - Tosefta 01:19  |  Mark Lincoln 01/10/07
  305.   Labhras #274 01:20  |  Margaret 01/10/07
  306.   Apartheid # 238 It Is? 01:24  |  Jeff Northridge 01/10/07
  307.   The Myth and the Facts 01:27  |  Mark Lincoln 01/10/07
  308.   # 230 William. Yes Too bad.They chose Their Way Due To Their.. 01:27  |  KATH` 01/10/07
  309.   Israeli #239 01:29  |  Margaret 01/10/07
  310.   Who is with the short memory ? 01:30  |  Akram Zekaria 01/10/07
  311.   Tosefta - In the end, you see what you see or wish you did 01:32  |  Mark Lincoln 01/10/07
  312.   # 210 Jonathan S 01:34  |  KATH` 01/10/07
  313.   Everyone Needs to Lighten Up 01:55  |  Jane 01/10/07
  314.   KATH` 01:56  |  Margaret 01/10/07
  315.   Refugees (Mark Lincoln #300) 01:57  |  Tosefta 01/10/07
  316.   Pharaonic "facts" (Mark Lincoln #303) 02:09  |  Tosefta 01/10/07
  317.   Endless "Right of Return" nonsense. No such "right". 02:10  |  Dr. L. Brnd 01/10/07
  318.   Jane #299 02:14  |  Hanem5 01/10/07
  319.   To Mark Lincoln Queen Elizabeth is pregnant. Do you know who did 02:19  |  e.m 01/10/07
  320.   Riviera and struggle 02:24  |  Truth 01/10/07
  321.   Re:Mark Lincoln.Part 2 02:24  |  e.m 01/10/07
  322.   Tosefta # 277 Is That All That You Can Come Up With? 02:24  |  Jeff Northridge 01/10/07
  323.   Mark Linclon 02:31  |  Truths 01/10/07
  324.   # 288 suzie q. I know What You Are Trying to Tell Me,BUT! 02:34  |  KATH` 01/10/07
  325.   # 238 Apartheid 02:42  |  17 01/10/07
  326.   Truths 02:46  |  17 01/10/07
  327.   Why would Israel worry? 02:49  |  Nemesis 01/10/07
  328.   Hanem-I Didn`t Say Everything Will Be One Way Or Another 03:08  |  Jane 01/10/07
  329.   # 285 Alice in The Real Wonderland..Shame On You! 03:12  |  KATH` 01/10/07
  330.   KATH- KUDOS !!!!!!!!!!!!! 03:16  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 01/10/07
  331.   # 255 Tosefta WE ARE NOT AMUSED,AND YOU KNOW WHY.. 03:17  |  KATH` 01/10/07
  332.   Tosefta - the myth matters 03:18  |  Mark Lincoln 01/10/07
  333.   e.m. from somewhere, name unknown 03:25  |  Mark Lincoln 01/10/07
  334.   Citing a years old source. 03:34  |  Mark Lincoln 01/10/07
  335.   e.m. from s.f. (neither of which are. . . 03:40  |  Mark Lincoln 01/10/07
  336.   Truth - or, perhaps, 1/4 thereof 03:47  |  Mark Lincoln 01/10/07
  337.   Re:Mark Lincoln 04:07  |  e.m 01/10/07
  338.   # 225 Do you know of any state, which was born in goodness... 04:19  |  Misha 01/10/07
  339.   Re71 To be click or not to be click 04:23  |  Alan the real one 01/10/07
  340.   RE:Mark Lincoln.It is not related to the war inIraq 04:25  |  e.m 01/10/07
  341.   Mark Lincoln.The majority of Israeli are opposed U.S aid to Israe 04:28  |  e.m 01/10/07
  342.   Churchill`s wisdom for Slowman 04:30  |  Avi Issacharoff 01/10/07
  343.   What if the Palestinians in Jordan decided to move to Palestine? 04:34  |  Akram Zekaria 01/10/07
  344.   The U.S aid to Israel is mostly U.S interest 04:37  |  e.m 01/10/07
  345.   The everlasting falsehoods (Jeff Northridge #322) 04:41  |  Tosefta 01/10/07
  346.   # 226 Sorry to hear that you are frightened to death... 04:41  |  Misha 01/10/07
  347.   Mark Lincoln 04:52  |  Truths 01/10/07
  348.   Mark Lincoln and shooting yourself 04:59  |  Truths 01/10/07
  349.   2What if the Palestinians in Jordan decided to move to Palestine? 05:02  |  Akram Zekaria 01/10/07
  350.   Re:Akram Zekaria.One express way from W.B to Jordan 05:14  |  e.m 01/10/07
  351.   36# Mark Lincoln:YOU ARE BLATANTLY WRONG! 05:24  |  Akram Zekaria 01/10/07
  352.   M.Lincoln.Israelis on Forbes` list of richest M.E billionaires 05:28  |  e.m 01/10/07
  353.   328 JANE-COUULD NOT AGREE MORE, BUT..... 05:35  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 01/10/07
  354.   To Shmuelshachor on #287... Still illegitimate 05:52  |  Taimur 01/10/07
  355.   Not more -- less! 05:53  |  Gene Schwimmer 01/10/07
  356.   mark Lincoln and his myths 06:05  |  Danite 01/10/07
  357.   256 SORRY- a LOAD of crap 06:20  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 01/10/07
  358.   Bit late now Mr Abbas. 06:29  |  Maureen Ann 01/10/07
  359.   TRUTHS. Palestinian aims are Exactly as the Pals themselves say. 06:40  |  PETER SM 01/10/07
  360.   "TRUTHS" and History?.Israeli arms came from Checkoslovakia 06:56  |  PETER SM 01/10/07
  361.   Margaret: The Arabs were the attackers 06:57  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 01/10/07
  362.   `truths` & lies 07:07  |  Jasmine Murphy 01/10/07
  363.   #216 Kath. A "Martian" you say? I wondered! 07:11  |  Maureen Ann 01/10/07
  364.   Jeff N. re: `apartheid` 07:15  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 01/10/07
  365.   Margaret 07:18  |  Israeli 01/10/07
  366.   Tosefta # 345 Falsehoods 07:22  |  Jeff Northridge 01/10/07
  367.   To Axel # 271 - Isael to Secure Borders 07:50  |  Dagma 01/10/07
  368.   Issues 08:02  |  Palestinian Prince 01/10/07
  369.   What`s this "hardening stance"? 08:08  |  Palestinian Prince 01/10/07
  370.   To Axel # 272 - MAPS 08:09  |  Dagma 01/10/07
  371.   DANITE #356, YES IT WAS 08:32  |  Palestinian Prince 01/10/07
  372.   Ouch, Labhras # 228 09:25  |  Clickfool 01/10/07
  373.   #329 KATH*, you need to develop some sense of humour 10:44  |  Alice of Wonderland 01/10/07
  374.   # 373 Alice NO! You Need To develope and become more serious.. 13:19  |  KATH` 01/10/07
  375.   # 137 Linda Rivera.Good Post and Olmert still Gives Abass.. 13:40  |  KATH` 01/10/07
  376.   # 140 Linda Rivera.Correct in your Assumptions.And I have said 13:48  |  KATH` 01/10/07
  377.   # 355 Gene Schwimmer.An Excellent Deduction. 15:37  |  KATH` 01/10/07
  378.   # 342 Jewish and Churchill`s Quotes.To Issacharoff 16:00  |  Judge Judy/Num2 01/10/07
  379.   # 314 Maegaret. If THAT IS IT,THEN YOU ARE JUST PARAPHRASING.. 16:10  |  KATH` 01/10/07
  380.   Pharaoh of Falsehoods (Jeff Northridge #366) 16:58  |  Tosefta 01/10/07
  381.   # 306 Peter SM.AND MY SMALL CONTRIBUTION 17:08  |  KATH` 01/10/07
  382.   #374 Kath* you´re right 20:26  |  Alice of Wonderland 01/10/07
  383.   # 382 Alice of Wonderland.Don`t be Absurd..Why The Move? 23:06  |  KATH` 01/10/07
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