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Dutch church to reexamine policy of solidarity with Israel
By Cnaan Liphshiz

After 37 years of boasting of "inalienable solidarity" with the people of Israel, the Netherlands' second largest church plans to reexamine its stance this fall. A group of notables from the Protestant Church in the Netherlands (PCN) warned last week that the organization, which has over two million members, is in danger of being "hijacked" by pro-Palestinian activists.

The warning - coauthored by Dr. Jan van der Graaf, who served for 35 years as general secretary within one of the three churches that make up the PCN, and three other prominent church figures - was an open letter against changing the reference to Israel. It was addressed to Minister Henri Veldhuis, a General Synod member who said the clause made the church adopt a biased view that ignored Israeli actions against Palestinians.

At a speech last month in Utrecht for Friends of Sabeel (a Jerusalem-based Palestinian organization), Veldhuis said the church should commit to a bond with Israel "as people of the Torah" instead of the "Jewish people as an ethnic group." Veldhuis also complained that currently, "the church has a stronger bond with a non-believing Alaskan Jewish person than a Palestinian Christian."

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The open letter accused Veldhuis of a slanted and hypocritical approach. "We were astonished by your address before a Palestinian liberation organization that pretends to be promoting reconciliation," it read. "You accused Israel but ignored Hamas's Jew-hating ideology. You overlooked the alarming anti-Semitic upsurge in Arab countries."

Veldhuis responded that the signatories "were regrettably and falsely" trying to portray Sabeel and himself as radical left-wing activists. In a conversation with Haaretz, Veldhuis said: "It is important to preserve the lessons of the Holocaust and never forget the Jewish roots of church and bible and to fight anti-Semitism, but we have to take a more realistic position on the Jewish people as an ethnic group and on the State of Israel. The PCN's theology is now idealizing both."

He added that he believes the coauthors - Van der Graaf, Dr. Theo van Campen, Dr. Wulfert de Greef and Dr. Henk van der Meulen - are circling the wagons because of "mounting criticism of Israel's policies."

Van der Graaf said that those who advocate changing the church's charter are "only a highly motivated minority" within PCN, and he believes the clause will ultimately remain unchanged.

The PCN, which was formed in 2004 as a merger of the country's three largest protestant churches, is scheduled to discuss revising its stance on Israel in November.


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  1.   MORE Moslems than Jews in Holland & they do Fatwas. 04:33  |  PETER S .M. 19/09/07
  2.   The Church should have solidarity with Christians FIRST 04:37  |  People 19/09/07
  3.   Dutch Church & Israel 04:47  |  Mitch Charles 19/09/07
  4.   A backstabbing Church? Shocking! 06:09  |  Jon 19/09/07
  5.   The Dutch liked the Jews better as victim rather than victimizer 06:53  |  Karma Chameleon 19/09/07
  6.   ISN`T THAT AMAZING? 07:21  |  Indrajaya 19/09/07
  7.   A COUPLE MORE BOMBS ARE NEEDED 07:23  |  indrajaya 19/09/07
  8.   An opinion from the Netherlands 07:24  |  Joep 19/09/07
  9.   Christians Please Resist Arab Pressure 07:26  |  Yosemite 19/09/07
  10.   I expect more and worse 07:27  |  Denton 19/09/07
  11.   Sanity 07:30  |  Bandar Michaels 19/09/07
  12.   DUTCH CHURCH OR ANY CHURCH 07:35  |  charro 19/09/07
  13.   all of europe 07:50  |  real vision 19/09/07
  14.   Fake Indrajaya! 08:12  |  Yosemite 19/09/07
  15.   To Joep 08:21  |  Nigel 19/09/07
  16.   some of the readers here don`t know what ... 08:22  |  Leona 19/09/07
  17.   Dutch Church in: http://www.EUROSTAN.eu 08:27  |  U.Rowstan 19/09/07
  18.   To Denton of Alabama 08:29  |  ArabAmerican 19/09/07
  19.   #12 overtaken by Charro 08:51  |  Warren 19/09/07
  20.   nederland 09:06  |  jaap 19/09/07
  21.   Israel= hateful apartheid that is anti-Christian 09:26  |  Church-goer 19/09/07
  22.   #8 Ignorant biased comments 09:26  |  Semsem 19/09/07
  23.   The Dutch Church and Solidarity 09:35  |  steve 19/09/07
  24.   It Really Doesn`t Matter Since The Holocaust Taught Us Jews That 09:38  |  Stark 19/09/07
  25.   @13, real vision 09:39  |  peter VDH 19/09/07
  26.   After 37 years of being hijacked by zionists, the Church might do 09:45  |  John 19/09/07
  27.   Get used to this type of act 09:50  |  Nechama 19/09/07
  28.   Mossad Pay Attention! Very Important! 09:52  |  Yosemite 19/09/07
  29.   #8 Joep. Pretty decent? 10:00  |  manny.b 19/09/07
  30.   amusing 10:08  |  realism 19/09/07
  31.   "CHURCH Goer"? really the Pope quoted Islam as causing death & 10:56  |  PETER S.M. 19/09/07
  32.   apartheid buster 10:57  |  next 19/09/07
  33.   REALISM even more amusing.Did you read the article? 11:03  |  PETER S.M. 19/09/07
  34.   Israel is fighting the church`s fight here 11:03  |  Lilio 19/09/07
  35.   But how many Christian Palestinians are there? 11:04  |  Biko 19/09/07
  36.   The church will bring down Israeli segregation. Israel sweating 11:06  |  kanu 19/09/07
  37.   Interesting 11:11  |  Chris Linthwaite 19/09/07
  38.   People # 2 11:12  |  Philippe 19/09/07
  39.   Peter SM # 1 11:16  |  Philippe 19/09/07
  40.   RE Laws of inheritance 11:18  |  jackie 19/09/07
  41.   Jon # 4 11:19  |  Philippe 19/09/07
  42.   Karma Chameleon # 5 11:24  |  Philippe 19/09/07
  43.   Israel is on its way out of the family on nations 11:25  |  clair 19/09/07
  44.   And what about Israel`s suffering.. 11:26  |  Ilana 19/09/07
  45.   Joep # 8 11:28  |  Philippe 19/09/07
  46.   Sabeel & Bandar Michaels -- look at the agenda 11:37  |  Slibovitz 19/09/07
  47.   In 1927, 15% of Palestine was Christian 11:37  |  Elias Khoury Estipha 19/09/07
  48.   I hope Nederland becomes the first Muslim European State 11:47  |  Alan 19/09/07
  49.   What a joke 11:58  |  Moshavnik 19/09/07
  50.   VULNERABLE ISRAEL ALWAYS LOOKING FOR SUPPORT 11:58  |  Lakshmi 19/09/07
  51.   SABEEL IS THE POINT!!!!!!!! 11:59  |  Brant 19/09/07
  52.   #21 church goer objects to apartheid 12:02  |  victor hardman 19/09/07
  53.   liberty of religion 12:05  |  charles 19/09/07
  54.   #37 more from deluded chris who thinks islam is on his side ! 12:06  |  victor hardman 19/09/07
  55.   Yosemite, if we truly loves G-D we will loves the jews 12:10  |  FSS 19/09/07
  56.   Elias # 47 12:10  |  charles 19/09/07
  57.   Remember Israel has no respect for Christianity... check out this 12:14  |  Mark 19/09/07
  58.   ArabAmerican 12:15  |  Nephtaly 19/09/07
  59.   V.Hardman. Bet "church goer" isn`t a church goer 12:18  |  PETER S.M. 19/09/07
  60.   #21 churchgoer 12:22  |  matt 19/09/07
  61.   IN Britain Former Archbishop of Canterbury said he was "ashamed- 12:22  |  PETER S.M. 19/09/07
  62.   Dutch church: who cares? 12:26  |  Mark B. 19/09/07
  63.   LAKSHMI.India is very happy to partner with Israel 12:26  |  PETER S.M. 19/09/07
  64.   Slibovitz 12:27  |  Slobberalot 19/09/07
  65.   Dutch no longer on Israels side, very sad indeed ! 12:28  |  Aaron 19/09/07
  66.   #51 Brant 12:32  |  Chris Linthwaite 19/09/07
  67.   palestinian christians should denounce Hamas 12:32  |  FSS 19/09/07
  68.   #53 Charles 12:36  |  Chris Linthwaite 19/09/07
  69.   Fake Lakshmi Post 50! 12:40  |  lakshmi 19/09/07
  70.   "MARK" ARMED Arab thugs invaded the Church of Nativity 12:40  |  PETER S .M. 19/09/07
  71.   This is not about religion,it is about supporting the Liberation 12:41  |  lakshmi 19/09/07
  72.   WE CAN`T SUPPORT APARTHEID ANYMORE 12:50  |  Peter Wardenier 19/09/07
  73.   cut ties with Israel now 12:50  |  Arthur Seyss-Inquart 19/09/07
  74.   Ignorance of the Church and errors of Israel 12:50  |  Nephtaly 19/09/07
  75.   Vocal minority, Holland will remain Jewish friendly 12:56  |  Luka 19/09/07
  76.   CLINTHWAITE Time to take your own head out of the sand 12:59  |  PETER S.M. 19/09/07
  77.   The Dutch were very German friendly, too. Very much so indeed 13:11  |  Hollands licht 19/09/07
  78.   Chris Linthwaite 13:11  |  Nephtaly 19/09/07
  79.   Nephtaly on Ishmael and Isaac/Yaacob 13:12  |  Bandar Michaels 19/09/07
  80.   Peter of Amsterdam 13:13  |  Lynn 19/09/07
  81.   liberty of religion to # 68 13:16  |  charles 19/09/07
  82.   peter sm 33 13:18  |  realism 19/09/07
  83.   FSS Here you are wrong. 13:21  |  Bandar Michaels 19/09/07
  84.   Peter Wardenier.then you better read the Hamas charter 13:21  |  PETER SM 19/09/07
  85.   The re-building of churches to mosques underway all over Europe 13:21  |  Alice of Wonderland 19/09/07
  86.   #81 Charles 13:22  |  Chris Linthwaite 19/09/07
  87.   #78 Nepthaly 13:23  |  Chris Linthwaite 19/09/07
  88.   Warren 13:24  |  Steve 19/09/07
  89.   #76 Peter S M of Australia 13:29  |  Chris Linthwaite 19/09/07
  90.   Solidarity with Israel - ignoring evil 13:29  |  ravi 19/09/07
  91.   To Arthur of the Netherlands # 73 - Love your typo 13:36  |  Klaudia 19/09/07
  92.   Confession time: I just don`t care 13:44  |  Lispo 19/09/07
  93.   Ethnicity and the Holocaust 13:46  |  natan 19/09/07
  94.   Bandar Michael 13:49  |  Nephtaly 19/09/07
  95.   REALISM.dismissing the former head of the Church "as one side" 13:59  |  PETER SM 19/09/07
  96.   Bandar Michael 2 Continue 14:01  |  Nephtaly 19/09/07
  97.   The greatest fear of all Europe-haters is actually happening 14:04  |  Mark B. 19/09/07
  98.   the dutch church should re-examine its conscience 14:04  |  lev 19/09/07
  99.   i hope the moslems take over the netherlands 14:06  |  natallie durson 19/09/07
  100.   Response #10 Denton 14:06  |  Mark B. 19/09/07
  101.   #88 steve 14:06  |  Warren 19/09/07
  102.   You should care. This is how we broght down South Africa 14:07  |  Bernzu 19/09/07
  103.   Chris Linthwaite 14:09  |  Nephtaly 19/09/07
  104.   CLINTHWAITE.North England has a LARGE Moslem population 14:10  |  PETER SM 19/09/07
  105.   Background about the minister`s bed mates 14:11  |  Javier 19/09/07
  106.   charro in mexico 14:15  |  wh 19/09/07
  107.   # 81 14:16  |  charles 19/09/07
  108.   ravi the Church is not ignoring evil,they hear Islamic threats 14:19  |  PETER SM 19/09/07
  109.   Absolutely true 85 14:19  |  Cynthia 19/09/07
  110.   Church solidarity - vanishing relic of Dutch sympathy to Israel 14:20  |  Sertavinia 19/09/07
  111.   nephtaly 14:27  |  Bandar Michaels 19/09/07
  112.   STILL AMAZES ME 14:29  |  Nephtaly 19/09/07
  113.   REALISM The former head of the Dutch Church calls it a hijack 14:30  |  PETER SM 19/09/07
  114.   #95 Nephtaly 14:38  |  Chris Linthwaite 19/09/07
  115.   Bernzu and Apartheid 14:41  |  Nephtaly 19/09/07
  116.   we have decided to make common cause 14:42  |  lakshmi and ravi 19/09/07
  117.   #96 Peter SM 14:43  |  Chris Linthwaite 19/09/07
  118.   CLINTHWAITE.Evasion in lieu of answers, 15:09  |  PETER SM 19/09/07
  119.   This would be an excellent move. 15:22  |  Ibrahim 19/09/07
  120.   Last month a dutch minister offered to call God Allah. Read here 15:27  |  Ned 19/09/07
  121.   #118 Peter S M of Australia 15:27  |  Chris Linthwaite 19/09/07
  122.   #12 Charro 15:32  |  Eduard 19/09/07
  123.   Read: Dutch minister offers renaming God as Allah for PC 15:32  |  NoNederophile 19/09/07
  124.   FOR ALL "innocent Arab" sloganeers here is the inside view. 15:35  |  PETER S .M. 19/09/07
  125.   The Dutch church and Israel. 15:40  |  David Nigel Braham 19/09/07
  126.   #66 Chris Linthwaite 15:55  |  Daybreak 19/09/07
  127.   Dutch drinking tea with their undoer 15:57  |  Reation 19/09/07
  128.   #72 peter and muslim apartheid are ignored 15:59  |  victor hardman 19/09/07
  129.   Warren 16:00  |  Steve 19/09/07
  130.   #123 NoNederphile 16:00  |  Chris Linthwaite 19/09/07
  131.   Holland is indeed under sea level. Sinking... 16:01  |  ruud 19/09/07
  132.   Re: Last month a dutch minister offered to call God Allah. Read h 16:03  |  Alex de Jong 19/09/07
  133.   The "Islamisation"-lie 16:05  |  Eduard 19/09/07
  134.   Chris Linthwaite 16:09  |  Nephtaly 19/09/07
  135.   Examine the Facts 16:16  |  Robert 19/09/07
  136.   Philippe - True..but their should be solidarity 16:17  |  People 19/09/07
  137.   Bandar Michael 16:19  |  Nephtaly 19/09/07
  138.   The Chatolic Church in particular should look into 16:21  |  Catholic Guy 19/09/07
  139.   To ArabAmerican, read for yourself 16:26  |  Denton 19/09/07
  140.   peter sm 95 16:33  |  realism 19/09/07
  141.   Peter Wardinier #72 16:34  |  Denton 19/09/07
  142.   #131 Nepthaly 16:43  |  Chris Linthwaite 19/09/07
  143.   To Mark B 16:47  |  Theodore 19/09/07
  144.   Truly sick of the racist attitude toward Muslims here on Talkback 16:48  |  Mark B. 19/09/07
  145.   to Ibrahim: Why don`t you advise Muslims to accept Israel & Jews? 16:51  |  Vittorio 19/09/07
  146.   To Klaudia 16:57  |  Theodore 19/09/07
  147.   Chris Linthwaite 17:02  |  Steve 19/09/07
  148.   Ground Rules for "Inalienable Solidarity" 17:09  |  Double Click 19/09/07
  149.   church better examin its own solidarity with human values christa 17:14  |  ralph 19/09/07
  150.   Denton - Yes 17:16  |  No 19/09/07
  151.   #147 Steve 17:22  |  Chris Linthwaite 19/09/07
  152.   To Luka: we still are Jewish-friendly 17:30  |  John 19/09/07
  153.   #148 17:32  |  Theodore 19/09/07
  154.   The Dutch have always been very welcoming and conscientious peopl 17:33  |  Abdallah 19/09/07
  155.   The Dutch are very enlightened. And that means other will follow 17:36  |  Laika 19/09/07
  156.   Ha`aretz columnist defends speech labeling Israel `apartheid` 17:41  |  NotExpectant 19/09/07
  157.   #80 Say Lynn 17:44  |  ballistic 19/09/07
  158.   #93 Say Natan 17:49  |  ballistic 19/09/07
  159.   Ha`aretz columnist defends speech labeling Israel `apartheid` 17:53  |  NotExpectant 19/09/07
  160.   #139 Denton 18:01  |  ballistic 19/09/07
  161.   Christian population grows in Israel, shrinks in Arab countries. 18:04  |  David 19/09/07
  162.   #21 18:15  |  Jane 19/09/07
  163.   Brant`s Post #51- Need Specifics on Sabeel`s Invectives 18:19  |  Double Click 19/09/07
  164.   #152 israel has nothing to do with judaism 18:26  |  victor hardman 19/09/07
  165.   #155 so why are they persecuting israel laika? 18:29  |  victor hardman 19/09/07
  166.   Thanks again, Dutch 18:36  |  Dutch 19/09/07
  167.   #159 Not expectant 18:41  |  ballistic 19/09/07
  168.   #152 John---Ouch! 18:44  |  ballistic 19/09/07
  169.   To Arab/American 18 18:56  |  Adeni Jew 19/09/07
  170.   #164 Say Victor 19:00  |  ballistic 19/09/07
  171.   Catholic Guy 19:41  |  Ibrahim 19/09/07
  172.   Vittorio, where have you been? 19:44  |  Ibrahim 19/09/07
  173.   #163 Double Click 19:49  |  Daybreak 19/09/07
  174.   Church-goer #21 - combat your own ignorance first 19:53  |  Polybios 19/09/07
  175.   Now i know: There is genuine Arab haitng in Israel 20:05  |  Mahmoud 19/09/07
  176.   Morally, No Church Can Support Israel Today 20:06  |  Mr. Knowitall 19/09/07
  177.   God promised land? says who? 20:09  |  WHA??? 19/09/07
  178.   Jew and Zionist 20:11  |  Man 19/09/07
  179.   To All: The News. 20:22  |  Theodore 19/09/07
  180.   Abdallah in Amsterdam 20:24  |  Polybios 19/09/07
  181.   #96 Nephtaly--Are "Jews" and "Hebrews" the same thing? 20:24  |  ballistic 19/09/07
  182.   There is genuine hostilioty for Arabs in Israel 20:26  |  Mahmoud 19/09/07
  183.   Laika - it didn`t happen!! 20:30  |  Polybios 19/09/07
  184.   mahmoud and hatred 20:36  |  qassem 19/09/07
  185.   Not much chance 20:37  |  Tosefta 19/09/07
  186.   no ballistic hebrews and swaziland are the same thing 20:40  |  barak obama 19/09/07
  187.   barak obama - WRONG OBAMA! WRONG! :) 20:45  |  Nope 19/09/07
  188.   Ibrahim -hhmm 20:49  |  Catholic Guy 19/09/07
  189.   Theodore, I used to be a reporter for NRC, and I think you err 20:52  |  Dirk Du Mosch 19/09/07
  190.   The Dutch will not let Israel down 20:58  |  Willem 19/09/07
  191.   Dutch Church is Right 21:02  |  PETER SM 19/09/07
  192.   Chris Linthwaite 21:12  |  Steve 19/09/07
  193.   Catholic Guy... 21:25  |  Ibrahim 19/09/07
  194.   Church goer # 21 and People # 2 21:32  |  Bill 19/09/07
  195.   Mahmoud - there is also love for Arabs in Israel 21:32  |  Polybios 19/09/07
  196.   #175, Mahoud, you stereotype, more complex 21:48  |  David 19/09/07
  197.   mahmoud - #182 There are Arabs in israel 21:53  |  David Israel 19/09/07
  198.   Ibrahim 21:55  |  Mr Pedant 19/09/07
  199.   #191 FAKE PETER SM. It is just a minority of "activists" 21:55  |  PETER S .M. 19/09/07
  200.   #176 mr know nothing at all and holland 22:01  |  victor hardman 19/09/07
  201.   Say Bill @ 194 22:07  |  ballistic 19/09/07
  202.   #181 ballistic and confusion over names 22:07  |  victor hardman 19/09/07
  203.   Ignore the Bibel - Have Decency 22:25  |  SoulFire 19/09/07
  204.   Tired of this BS 22:27  |  Avrum 19/09/07
  205.   DISTINGUISH between SOLIDARITY with PEOPLE of ISRAEL and G`MENT 22:37  |  ALL 4 PEACE 19/09/07
  206.   solidarity with Israel 22:38  |  Shmuelshachor 19/09/07
  207.   #204 4u and the myth of international law again 23:10  |  victor hardman 19/09/07
  208.   Chris Linthwaite 23:14  |  Nephtaly 19/09/07
  209.   Ballistic Re:Rev 2:10 23:33  |  Bill 19/09/07
  210.   Post 173 - APPALLINGLY IGNORANT 23:47  |  Double Click 19/09/07
  211.   #181 Well, Victor 23:55  |  ballistic 19/09/07
  212.   Freedom of expression 23:55  |  Joseph 19/09/07
  213.   #203 Say Avrum 23:56  |  ballistic 19/09/07
  214.   # 72 Go to hell with your support, idiot... 00:00  |  Misha 20/09/07
  215.   Ibrahim 00:14  |  Catholic Guy 20/09/07
  216.   pfff...always same, same, same 00:15  |  getting a bit bored 20/09/07
  217.   #208 Nepthaly 00:16  |  Chris Linthwaite 20/09/07
  218.   Infiltration 00:18  |  Again 20/09/07
  219.   #210 Double Click 00:27  |  Daybreak 20/09/07
  220.   I LOVE HA`ARETZ! 00:29  |  JEW CATHOLIC 20/09/07
  221.   Bill, while you are looking up that passage, 00:43  |  ballistic 20/09/07
  222.   DUTCH CHURCH HAS NO INFLUENCE 00:47  |  Martijn 20/09/07
  223.   #210 Double Click, Continued 00:50  |  Daybreak 20/09/07
  224.   #77 - Hardly German Friendly 01:06  |  Double Click 20/09/07
  225.   # Hi ballistic. More theft by the `holy` people. 01:37  |  Maureen Ann 20/09/07
  226.   Palestinian Myths 01:55  |  Scharker Yid 20/09/07
  227.   #211 - Who are the Ashkenazis - 01:56  |  Double Click 20/09/07
  228.   Benny morris 02:04  |  Jane 20/09/07
  229.   DCLICK.Observation of UN not a prerequsite forleft/Arabsolidarity 02:10  |  PETER SM 20/09/07
  230.   Polybios # 195 02:10  |  Philippe 20/09/07
  231.   Hey Ballistic 02:13  |  natan 20/09/07
  232.   ballistic, 02:40  |  Lynn 20/09/07
  233.   Bill Rev 2:10 02:57  |  Lynn 20/09/07
  234.   # 157 ballistic 03:04  |  Lynn 20/09/07
  235.   say ballistic, it doesn`t say anything about 03:54  |  Lynn 20/09/07
  236.   Wretched Europeans 04:09  |  Gordon 20/09/07
  237.   bro BILL, rdg REV 2:10, to answer miss ball... 04:19  |  FSS 20/09/07
  238.   bro BILL, rdg REV 2:10, part 2., and ball of cause 04:25  |  FSS 20/09/07
  239.   The Dutch church--irrelevant! 04:26  |  US CITIZEN 20/09/07
  240.   REALISM.just so there is no misunderstanding 04:34  |  PETER SM 20/09/07
  241.   say ballistic,... DON`T `SAY ` ANYMORE 05:14  |  mary for jews 20/09/07
  242.   Laika 05:45  |  Connie 20/09/07
  243.   Laika 05:50  |  Connie 20/09/07
  244.   #18 arab-american ...yes, arabs are descendants of abraham,but 05:58  |  maria 20/09/07
  245.   peter sm 217 05:59  |  realism 20/09/07
  246.   arab-american....alabamans enslaved 06:07  |  maria 20/09/07
  247.   The constant drip of ebbing support 06:07  |  Nick Ferriman 20/09/07
  248.   mark b...in amsterdam....you live in a 06:12  |  maria 20/09/07
  249.   ballistic, #160 06:20  |  Denton 20/09/07
  250.   are not born again believers 06:21  |  maria 20/09/07
  251.   lakshmi....israel is not looking for support.... 06:25  |  maria 20/09/07
  252.   Realism@ 219 06:27  |  PETER S .M. 20/09/07
  253.   wha????????you know why we`re outnumbered 06:32  |  maria 20/09/07
  254.   #210 Double Click Second Attempt 06:47  |  Daybreak 20/09/07
  255.   Maria #229, good question! 07:16  |  Denton 20/09/07
  256.   #94 Nephtaly to Bandar Michael 07:34  |  hala 20/09/07
  257.   #239 maria, please stop insulting other faiths 07:47  |  hala 20/09/07
  258.   Freedom 08:07  |  Ben Azai 20/09/07
  259.   #211 ballistic admits to no education at all 08:32  |  victor hardman 20/09/07
  260.   Netherlands Becoming Slave to Islam 08:37  |  Efox 20/09/07
  261.   Say Misha 09:56  |  ballistic 20/09/07
  262.   #253 Maria. 09:58  |  Maureen Ann 20/09/07
  263.   #225 Say Maureen 10:04  |  ballistic 20/09/07
  264.   #227 Double Click 10:09  |  ballistic 20/09/07
  265.   #231 Natan 10:10  |  ballistic 20/09/07
  266.   #232 Golly Lynn, "and" what! 10:11  |  ballistic 20/09/07
  267.   The self confessed Indra #6 10:22  |  Willy 20/09/07
  268.   Israel Always 10:24  |  Another christian 20/09/07
  269.   Say Bill, Lynn has pointed out an error in the citation 10:33  |  ballistic 20/09/07
  270.   #234 Well thank you cupcake, Lynn 10:36  |  ballistic 20/09/07
  271.   #235 Cupcake Lynn 10:40  |  ballistic 20/09/07
  272.   #241 Say Marry---Happy Holidays 10:42  |  ballistic 20/09/07
  273.   #242 Say Connie 10:44  |  ballistic 20/09/07
  274.   #263, Ballistic 10:49  |  Hannah 20/09/07
  275.   #202 Say Victor 11:12  |  ballistic 20/09/07
  276.   MAUREEN ANN, re; Maria. misunderstanding #1 11:24  |  FSS 20/09/07
  277.   MAUREEN ANN, re; Maria. misunderstanding #2 11:30  |  FSS 20/09/07
  278.   MAUREEN ANN, re; Maria. misunderstanding #3 11:45  |  FSS 20/09/07
  279.   peter sm 252 15:24  |  realism 20/09/07
  280.   #274 Hi Hannah 15:58  |  ballistic 20/09/07
  281.   #237 FSS 16:12  |  ballistic 20/09/07
  282.   #246 Maria 16:18  |  ballistic 20/09/07
  283.   ballistic 269 18:39  |  Bill 20/09/07
  284.   Lynn 233 18:50  |  Bill 20/09/07
  285.   ballistic....egyptians are africans 21:47  |  maria 20/09/07
  286.   maureen ann.....don`t make God a liar. 21:58  |  maria 20/09/07
  287.   hala....insulting other faiths? 22:04  |  maria 20/09/07
  288.   What The BBC Is Telling Kids About The 911 Attacks 17:18  |  Georgina 21/09/07
  289.   Human rights group participated in Israel-bashing in Durban 19:49  |  Michael 21/09/07
  290.   Truth about Durban 03:16  |  Pyutr 22/09/07
  291.   root of problem 15:14  |  delington 25/09/07
  292.   34, U R mistaken 15:15  |  ronni 25/09/07
  293.   292, this is why 18:25  |  rantintin 25/09/07
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