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Livni warns Rice: Summit could fail due to unreasonable goals
By Barak Ravid, Haaretz Correspondent

Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni has begun formulating "realistic" goals for the Washington Mideast summit scheduled for November. In recent conversations with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and in a meeting last Monday with Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Salam Fayad, Livni said that all of the parties would serve to benefit from reasonable expectations for the summit. Unreasonable goals would cause the conference to end in failure, she said.

Jerusalem officials say Rice seems to be taking the opposite approach, believing that setting the bar high will lead to greater achievements. Livni warned Rice against acting too hastily, saying that expectations must be in keeping with developments on the ground.

September will be a busy month for Israeli officials involved in the summit. The European Union's foreign policy chief, Javier Solana, is due to arrive Sunday for talks with Livni, Defense Minister Ehud Barak, PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas and Fayad, before visiting Jordan and Egypt.

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Austrian Chancellor Alfred Gusenbauer will arrive Monday for his third visit to Israel since being appointed Mideast envoy for the Quartet about two months ago; Tony Blair will follow on Tuesday.

Italian Foreign Minister Massimo D'Alema is due to arrive on Wednesday, and, on September 11, Livni's French counterpart, Bernard Kouchner, will make his maiden voyage to the region in his new position. Rice will land in the region on the 15th.

Livni believes that hopes for the summit are already unreasonably high.

One problem area that she has identified is that Israel is able to make significant concessions on core issues, such as Jerusalem and future borders, whereas Abbas does not have the public support needed to compromise over refugees and the right of return.

Livni seeks obtainable goals that are significant enough to be considered genuine achievements. "I don't believe in holding a fire sale of Israel's assets, because the public won't allow it," Livni said recently, adding that Abbas "cannot provide even a single concession, which will lead to a breakdown from which none of the parties will profit."

A few days ago, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State in the Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, Dr. Robert Danin, an aide to Rice, met in Israel with Prime Minister's Office Chief of Staff Yoram Turbowicz and high-level Foreign Ministry officials, and with Fayad.

Danin told his Israeli hosts that the key to the November summit was Saudi Araba, although the extent of their participation and agenda has yet to be determined.

In the last week of the month, the center of gravity moves to New York, with a meeting of the Quartet on September 23, followed the next day by a meeting of donor countries to the Palestinians known as the Ad Hoc Liaison Committee.

Blair is expected to set out a detailed plan at this meeting. The United Nations General Assembly will open in New York during the same week.
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  1.   If Abbas cannot give any concessions... 05:05  |  Giles Martin 02/09/07
  2.   It`s Not Mine, Take It 05:15  |  Raviv 02/09/07
  3.   First Reasonable Comment Livni has ever said 05:22  |  ralphsrant1 02/09/07
  4.   Dumb and Dumber 05:23  |  Joe 02/09/07
  5.   What is neeed are more special envoys and caveats about 05:32  |  Sensible 02/09/07
  6.   Giles Martin 06:12  |  JOJO 02/09/07
  7.   This Story Lacks Substance 06:37  |  Mark of Lewiston 02/09/07
  8.   Israel is unwilling to face reality 06:37  |  spyguy 02/09/07
  9.   Jojo - no one will force the Muslims to change 06:41  |  spyguy 02/09/07
  10.   Let me clarify Livnis remarks 06:50  |  Natallie Durson 02/09/07
  11.   Why the SUMMIT WILL FAIL.......... again 06:55  |  amir 02/09/07
  12.   rice is wrong, no wonder failed in iraq and elsewhere 07:00  |  ralph 02/09/07
  13.   No peace while Hamas exists 07:04  |  Voice of Reason 02/09/07
  14.   #4 you are dumber than I think 07:18  |  alex 02/09/07
  15.   concessions? 07:20  |  jake 02/09/07
  16.   RICE CAN NOT BE TRUSTED..... 07:34  |  x 02/09/07
  17.   It should be clear to all, any final solution must be based on: 07:54  |  Yaniv 02/09/07
  18.   Summit Will Fail Thank G_D 08:06  |  Gary Pineda 02/09/07
  19.   Voice of Reason #10 08:30  |  S 02/09/07
  20.   Natallie Durson - LOL 08:38  |  x 02/09/07
  21.   dumb and dumber for joe 08:49  |  Jonathan 02/09/07
  22.   Charade 08:53  |  Henry 02/09/07
  23.   Summit 08:57  |  Jaime 02/09/07
  24.   isarel is stalling? 09:35  |  bashar 02/09/07
  25.   summit failed before it started 09:54  |  scanadu 02/09/07
  26.   To Durston 10:00  |  Tony Soprano 02/09/07
  27.   To Raviv 10:04  |  PalWatch 02/09/07
  28.   Let`s have tea ... 10:20  |  Cynical 02/09/07
  29.   here we go gathering nuts in may 10:25  |  victor hardman 02/09/07
  30.   Livini`s goals: no goals and US taxpayers continue to pay 10:38  |  Petteri 02/09/07
  31.   Livni is right 10:39  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 02/09/07
  32.   Respect for the honorable FM! 10:43  |  Judith, Haifa 02/09/07
  33.   #8 SPYGUY AND REALITY AS A DOOM MERCHANT 10:47  |  PAUL HARRIS 02/09/07
  34.   The Summit WILL fail... 10:54  |  Burkhardt 02/09/07
  35.   BOTH OF THEM IN A DEEP SHIITEEE 10:54  |  indrajaya 02/09/07
  36.   "Developments on the ground." 11:09  |  Maureen Ann 02/09/07
  37.   With all due respect and best of intentions, Abbas and his people 11:10  |  Gad Aharoni 02/09/07
  38.   A CLEAR CUT EXAMPLE OF CHUTZPAH 11:17  |  indrajaya 02/09/07
  39.   Livni should announce there will be an Israeli referendum 11:20  |  Sam 02/09/07
  40.   That`s the downside of having a toothless old Uncle Tom 11:23  |  Clickfool 02/09/07
  41.   Did anyone speak of Success?! 11:31  |  Sharif Hafez 02/09/07
  42.   Wake-Up Livni 11:43  |  isratinian 02/09/07
  43.   What does this stupid woman want? 11:51  |  Khalid 02/09/07
  44.   Sharif Hafez 12:02  |  notblackorwhite 02/09/07
  45.   I do think Yaniv`s points are important for all 12:17  |  Yair Halevi 02/09/07
  46.   Fire-sale 12:26  |  Peter Dale 02/09/07
  47.   FALE INDRAJAYA ALERT 12:30  |  indrajaya 02/09/07
  48.   #42 Khalid; "you always have Jordan"! 12:50  |  Alice of Wonderland 02/09/07
  49.   Cancel the summit: self-deception is forbidden in Judaism! 13:09  |  Alice of Wonderland 02/09/07
  50.   #43, Alice of Wonderland 13:16  |  Fritz 02/09/07
  51.   42Khalid,agreed & at this stage the only just & fair solution is 13:20  |  lakshmi 02/09/07
  52.   No Chance of a Palestinian State ..... 13:28  |  Dagma 02/09/07
  53.   #45 Fritz: I put my trust in G-D, who is my rock and redeemer 13:34  |  Alice of Wonderland 02/09/07
  54.   Khalid, I know you Arabs like to tell stories, "neratives", and 13:37  |  Gad Aharoni 02/09/07
  55.   Fritz, is that your intention, that "this neo-colonialist shop 13:42  |  Gad Aharoni 02/09/07
  56.   the gathering of lame ducks 13:43  |  rose 02/09/07
  57.   In other words.... 13:47  |  Wiktor 02/09/07
  58.   For Dagma # 47 13:49  |  Clickfool 02/09/07
  59.   For Alice of Wonderland # 48 13:53  |  Clickfool 02/09/07
  60.   concessions?..... 13:54  |  ravi 02/09/07
  61.   #48, Alice in Wonderland 14:00  |  Fritz 02/09/07
  62.   45Fritz,a tough one indeed ! 14:06  |  lakshmi 02/09/07
  63.   A` Palestinian ` State ........ 14:10  |  Dagma 02/09/07
  64.   double dealings 14:20  |  Nick Ferriman 02/09/07
  65.   For Dagma 14:22  |  Clickfool 02/09/07
  66.   #54 Clickfool: Hitler was behind the Holocaust, NOT G-D ! 14:25  |  Alice of Wonderland 02/09/07
  67.   Both leadership lack integrity 14:35  |  Enlightenment needed 02/09/07
  68.   Antipeace and ill founded accusations. 14:36  |  Giles Martin 02/09/07
  69.   Yaniv, I think your points correspond to the 14:51  |  Dina 02/09/07
  70.   #57 Fritz: is there anything the Pals could give us in return too 14:53  |  Alice of Wonderland 02/09/07
  71.   I agree, Alice of Wonderland # 60 14:54  |  Clickfool 02/09/07
  72.   To Clickfoot # 55 = God knows 15:01  |  Dagma 02/09/07
  73.   For Alice of Wonderland # 65 15:10  |  Clickfool 02/09/07
  74.   Endless Bush failure and Israels strategic imperative, 1 15:12  |  David Turner 02/09/07
  75.   Endless Bush failure and Israels strategic imperative, 2 15:14  |  David Turner 02/09/07
  76.   Israel must not participate to this conf`erence 15:15  |  Frank 02/09/07
  77.   Reasonable vs unreasonable goals 15:18  |  Mark Lincoln 02/09/07
  78.   Mark of Lewiston 15:20  |  Mark Lincoln 02/09/07
  79.   land land more land 15:20  |  edgar 02/09/07
  80.   #53, Gad Aharoni 15:25  |  Fritz 02/09/07
  81.   Bush Admin.uses Unconstitutional Road Map as Policy 15:28  |  sam 02/09/07
  82.   # 74, EDGAR 15:28  |  indrajaya 02/09/07
  83.   #67 Clickfool 15:29  |  Alice of Wonderland 02/09/07
  84.   End the Ocuupation 15:29  |  Abe 02/09/07
  85.   #66, Alice in Wonderland 15:36  |  Fritz 02/09/07
  86.   #70 Clicky: Israel does NOT want more land! 15:44  |  Alice of Wonderland 02/09/07
  87.   To Giles Martin # 62 - Sorry Giles a badly needed lesson 15:54  |  Dolly 02/09/07
  88.   Giles Martin # 64 The Arab Ultimatum 15:58  |  Jeff Northridge 02/09/07
  89.   #83 Fritz 16:11  |  Alice of Wonderland 02/09/07
  90.   #85, Alice of Wonderland 16:15  |  Fritz 02/09/07
  91.   root of the problem 16:16  |  edgar 02/09/07
  92.   For Dagma # 72 16:21  |  Clickfool 02/09/07
  93.   For Alice of Wonderland # 86 16:24  |  Clickfool 02/09/07
  94.   Abe (Ibrahim from Michigan?), Israel will exit most of the 16:29  |  Yaaub 02/09/07
  95.   Alice in the Looking Glass 16:31  |  Mark Lincoln 02/09/07
  96.   #87, Jeff Northridge 16:38  |  Burkhardt 02/09/07
  97.   Fritz # 79 There Are Countless Examples 16:38  |  Jeff Northridge 02/09/07
  98.   To Abe # 84 - Where is the Occupation? 16:44  |  Dagma 02/09/07
  99.   The definition of "reasonable concessions" 16:44  |  Tosefta 02/09/07
  100.   Making "Peace" is ridiculous 16:55  |  Frank 02/09/07
  101.   #91 Clicky: it is you, who believe in your own nonsense 16:56  |  Alice of Wonderland 02/09/07
  102.   # 10 Let me clarify by General Durson 16:57  |  Twogunz 02/09/07
  103.   Referendum 17:01  |  Twogunz 02/09/07
  104.   Fritz, does your "this neo-colonialist shop" in your opinion 17:05  |  Gad Aharoni 02/09/07
  105.   To Clickfoot # 90 17:07  |  Dagma 02/09/07
  106.   To edgar # 89 17:14  |  Dolly 02/09/07
  107.   JEWS 17:19  |  indrajaya 02/09/07
  108.   #96, Jeff Northridge 17:20  |  Fritz 02/09/07
  109.   #94 Mark Lincoln 17:20  |  Alice of Wonderland 02/09/07
  110.   #101, Gad Aharoni 17:24  |  Fritz 02/09/07
  111.   To Yaaub # 92 17:31  |  Sandy 02/09/07
  112.   How Can The Washington Summit Fail? 17:39  |  Jeff Northridge 02/09/07
  113.   #90 Fritz 17:45  |  Alice of Wonderland 02/09/07
  114.   Conspiracy theory regarding Slowman 17:58  |  Barak Ravid 02/09/07
  115.   Nick Ferriman& edgar,agree with your posts,now it might be time 17:59  |  lakshmi 02/09/07
  116.   Chinese wisdom for Jeff Northridge #88 18:03  |  Barak Ravid 02/09/07
  117.   Hurray for Lebanon! Lebanon just killed 32 Al-Qaida militants! 18:04  |  AV 02/09/07
  118.   Summit will fail 18:04  |  sheherazade 02/09/07
  119.   Fritz # 104 Failed Occupations 18:07  |  Jeff Northridge 02/09/07
  120.   Alice - wondering 18:07  |  Mark Lincoln 02/09/07
  121.   Well, Indrajaya... 18:14  |  JES 02/09/07
  122.   #112 Jeff Northridge 18:19  |  Sheherazade 02/09/07
  123.   Don`t think I`ve ever heard a Jewish women say... 18:29  |  Virginia 02/09/07
  124.   That Gut Feeling...... 18:43  |  Dagma 02/09/07
  125.   Jes, why make it so personal? Wouldn`t it be better to say... 18:48  |  Virginia 02/09/07
  126.   # 120 Mark; I´m speculating 18:54  |  Alice of Wonderland 02/09/07
  127.   The result of keeping Hamas out 19:05  |  Tosefta 02/09/07
  128.   Burkhardt # 96 Not Exactly 19:13  |  Jeff Northridge 02/09/07
  129.   Advice to the Arabs 19:14  |  Tosefta 02/09/07
  130.   Unreasonable goals = don`t force things using the stick 19:35  |  Jason 02/09/07
  131.   The summit will be a failure 19:38  |  Dolly 02/09/07
  132.   SUMMIT WILL FAIL REGARDLESS OF GOALS. 19:38  |  SM 02/09/07
  133.   Livni warns Rice: 19:43  |  premkitaasa 02/09/07
  134.   to JES # 121 19:44  |  indrajaya 02/09/07
  135.   Livni warns Rice 19:46  |  Elie 02/09/07
  136.   Alice - you noticed that too? 20:09  |  Mark Lincoln 02/09/07
  137.   #9SPYGUY 20:12  |  JOJO 02/09/07
  138.   You still remain optimistic Tosefta 20:14  |  Mark Lincoln 02/09/07
  139.   #129 Advice from Tosefta 20:15  |  sheherazade 02/09/07
  140.   Public support..... 20:33  |  Shalom 02/09/07
  141.   # 29 victor hardman. here we go gathering nuts in may. 20:47  |  Kath` 02/09/07
  142.   Infidels must die by the sword! 20:51  |  Yusuf ibn Mohamed 02/09/07
  143.   In Livnis`s mind peace is "unreasonable"! 20:57  |  ManInTheMiddle 02/09/07
  144.   Livni is Right and In Hopes she Stays the Course! 21:01  |  Kath` 02/09/07
  145.   The conference (Mark Lincoln #138; Sheherazade #139) 21:09  |  Tosefta 02/09/07
  146.   ManinTheMiddle - I don`t know what Livni thinks 21:10  |  Mark Lincoln 02/09/07
  147.   Hey Tosefta; Here`s A Question For You 22:00  |  Jeff Northridge 02/09/07
  148.   96Burkhardt,by now you must have realised that Howdy Jeff is a 22:01  |  lakshmi 02/09/07
  149.   # 43 Khalid 22:11  |  Lynn 02/09/07
  150.   #143man oh man what do you mean by peace ?? 22:24  |  victor hardman 02/09/07
  151.   #145 Tosefta 22:42  |  Guber 02/09/07
  152.   Indrayayaya - CHUTZPAH 23:10  |  17 02/09/07
  153.   Tosefta Thanks 23:21  |  Danite 02/09/07
  154.   israeli assets 23:51  |  Kris 02/09/07
  155.   The spy who drank too much vinegar 00:08  |  NJ 03/09/07
  156.   Tosefta,153 Danite has surpassed himself! I can now see where the 00:40  |  lakshmi 03/09/07
  157.   "...a single concession"! 00:41  |  Webster 03/09/07
  158.   # 107 Indrayayaya - "JEWS" 00:47  |  17 03/09/07
  159.   #153. No problem 01:17  |  ManInTheMiddle 03/09/07
  160.   There were such threats (Jeff Northridge #147) 01:21  |  Tosefta 03/09/07
  161.   Iakshmi # 148 UNGAR 181 Is Dead 01:24  |  Jeff Northridge 03/09/07
  162.   Worldly wisdom for Dumbite #153 01:26  |  Tony the Poodle 03/09/07
  163.   This summit is designed to fail 01:27  |  Saba 03/09/07
  164.   #153, Danite 01:31  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 03/09/07
  165.   Khalid # 42 Historical homeland? 02:12  |  ChanahS 03/09/07
  166.   Kris # 154 Israeli Assets 02:20  |  Jeff Northridge 03/09/07
  167.   #79 Edgar 02:49  |  * BEN JABO 03/09/07
  168.   I can see why they all not come togather !? 02:58  |  Akram Zekaria 03/09/07
  169.   #147 And what are the groundrules for independence, Jeff? 03:07  |  Johnboy 03/09/07
  170.   #4 03:09  |  Moshe 03/09/07
  171.   # 162 - Tony the Poodle 03:15  |  YodZayn 03/09/07
  172.   ManInTheMiddle # 159 Big Problem 03:23  |  Jeff Northridge 03/09/07
  173.   #51 The disadvantage of being Lakshmi 03:28  |  Tosefta 03/09/07
  174.   Tosefta # 160 As I Thought 03:31  |  Jeff Northridge 03/09/07
  175.   The first line gives the game away... 03:35  |  Johnboy 03/09/07
  176.   Jewish wisdom for Danite #153 (re Tony the Poodle, YodZayn) 03:41  |  Barak Ravid 03/09/07
  177.   # 147 Jeff Northridge.re:Tosefta.Well it seems.. 03:52  |  Kath` 03/09/07
  178.   non-summit 03:54  |  truth 03/09/07
  179.   Chanah and abuse 03:55  |  truth 03/09/07
  180.   # 168 Akram Zekaria. Right Yo Are.Has all Become a Big Circus.. 04:06  |  Kath` 03/09/07
  181.   #51 - The Palestinians will not get control of East Jerusalem... 04:07  |  Mimi 03/09/07
  182.   The Palestinians may or may not accept any mishmash the cabal 04:15  |  lakshmi 03/09/07
  183.   #41 04:23  |  Moshe 03/09/07
  184.   Tzipi and Condi 04:35  |  Mark Lincoln 03/09/07
  185.   US support will not last forever 04:37  |  Think about it 03/09/07
  186.   Jeff, Cipora, Lynn, Ben, Kath-the deal breaker 04:52  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 03/09/07
  187.   177 KATH- well put ABOUT JEFF 04:57  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 03/09/07
  188.   World Wisdom for Jeff Northridge #174 05:03  |  Barak Ravid 03/09/07
  189.   CALL "the fashion police" 05:08  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 03/09/07
  190.   173Tosefta,are you not the person who has been talking about 05:21  |  lakshmi 03/09/07
  191.   #185, Jon Feigenbaum 06:21  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 03/09/07
  192.   What concessions you want from Abbas? 06:51  |  Palestinian Prince 03/09/07
  193.   Palestinian Leaders Must Embrace Collaboration With Israel 06:58  |  Adam Harmon 03/09/07
  194.   Bush is desperate 07:01  |  * BEN JABO 03/09/07
  195.   Now Bush & Rice plan a Photo-Op on the Middle East... 07:01  |  index_on_censorship 03/09/07
  196.   Now Bush & Rice plan a Photo-Op on the Middle East...#2/2 07:02  |  Index_on_censorship 03/09/07
  197.   and so israeli continue to occupy the land of kanaan 07:25  |  Kris 03/09/07
  198.   #161 Jeff does not understand what Res 181 actually was 07:40  |  Johnboy 03/09/07
  199.   # 107, FAKE INDRAJAYA (ON "JEWS") 07:41  |  indrajaya 03/09/07
  200.   #194 *Ben Jabo. Finally, you see the light! 08:06  |  Maureen Ann 03/09/07
  201.   Johnboy # 169 The Ground Rules For Independence 08:23  |  Jeff Northridge 03/09/07
  202.   # 194, BEN JABO 08:28  |  indrajaya 03/09/07
  203.   Livni says..... 08:45  |  Johnboy 03/09/07
  204.   #198 08:46  |  JES 03/09/07
  205.   Johnboy # 198 Wrong! 08:48  |  Jeff Northridge 03/09/07
  206.   #198 johnboy does not understand PERFORMANCE 08:59  |  victor hardman 03/09/07
  207.   #201 You presuppose that they WANT to carry out your plans, Jeff 09:06  |  Johnboy 03/09/07
  208.   #119, Jeff Northridge 09:40  |  Fritz 03/09/07
  209.   #161, Jeff Northridge 09:45  |  Burkhardt 03/09/07
  210.   #205 Jeff Northridge WRONG!!! 10:19  |  Johnboy 03/09/07
  211.   198Johnboy,many thanks,trying to talk to Howdy jeff requires 10:30  |  lakshmi 03/09/07
  212.   #206 Laughable, Victor 10:31  |  Johnboy 03/09/07
  213.   #204Then you fall into something of a hole, JES 10:57  |  Johnboy 03/09/07
  214.   The Point After ... 12:13  |  Dutch 03/09/07
  215.   The future vs. the present (Lakshmi #190) 15:46  |  Tosefta 03/09/07
  216.   #198 Johnboy on the Mandate 15:54  |  Tosefta 03/09/07
  217.   #200 Maureen Ann 17:50  |  * BEN JABO 03/09/07
  218.   #202 Indrajaya 17:52  |  * BEN JABO 03/09/07
  219.   Daffy Dutch strikes again 18:58  |  * BEN JABO 03/09/07
  220.   To Lakshmi: 19:49  |  Mimi 03/09/07
  221.   # 216 Tosefta.re:Johnboy and the Explanation re:Mandate.. 00:25  |  Kath` 04/09/07
  222.   108# Kath. 04:56  |  Akram Zekaria 04/09/07
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