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Who's asking them?
By Yoel Marcus

With his popularity hitting rock bottom, it is only natural that Ehud Olmert would rather be remembered as the leader of a peace initiative than the prime minister who screwed up the Second Lebanon War. Toward that end, he has grabbed at President George Bush's offer of a regional summit in Washington this November with both hands. Olmert may behave as if he is Ariel Sharon's heir, but in practice, he has kissed the unilateral disengagement plan goodbye and chosen to follow in the footsteps of Menachem Begin, moving from war to a peace treaty.

His intention, according to media reports, is to go to Washington with a framework for a permanent accord with the Palestinians. Olmert and Mahmoud Abbas, in a secret contest to see who can wear the loudest tie, are discussing all the sensitive issues, openly and behind closed doors, so that they will have a draft agreement for ending the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to lay out on the table.

In the matter of the leak, about Israel being prepared to withdraw to the 1967 borders if it gets to keep most of the settlement blocs, there is just one little problem: Abbas doesn't represent all the Palestinians, and Olmert doesn't represent all the citizens of Israel. A quarter of a million settlers, many of them third-generation in the settlements, are not going to sit around twiddling their thumbs when Washington raises a glass of champagne to celebrate even a draft of a draft.

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With that in mind, there are some who suggest, or demand, that before Olmert heads off to the summit, he should organize a kind of local Camp David for the leaders and representatives of the settlement movement. The foreseen outlines of the plan are for the settlement blocs to remain as they are, with only settlements along the fence evacuated as part of a land swap. Nothing decided in Washington will be irreversible. On the other hand, there are some opponents outside the settler camp.

Ehud Barak, for example, has been quoted as saying that Olmert is cut off from reality if he thinks that a permanent accord with the Palestinians is possible right now. In a television interview, Dov Weissglas revealed that Sharon's unilateral disengagement plan was designed to torpedo the political process with the Palestinians.

Although we are talking about the start of a long process, and one that may end up going nowhere, as the summit draws nearer and details come out, pressure on Olmert to meet with the settler chiefs will be stepped up. Israeli governments since the Six-Day War have not made a serious attempt to sit with the settlers and figure out how a consensus can be reached in the event that a two-states-for-two-peoples agreement doesn't materialize. On the contrary, most of our governments have resigned themselves to settlement expansion and the establishment of illegal outposts on Arab land. They have poured money into defending the settlements and showered them with perks, at the expense of the "rest of the country."

This state-within-a-state has sprouted virulent weeds of the kind that will not hesitate to fight back tooth and nail when Israeli security forces come to evacuate them. When 2,000 soldiers and policemen are needed to remove two families squatting in a couple of buildings in Hebron, just imagine what will happen when the state tries to move thousands of settlers somewhere within the defendable, recognized borders of the State of Israel.

Supporters of an agreement with the Palestinians fiercely object to any kind of government-settler summit. They see it as a trap that will hobble chances for an accord, a recipe for havoc, an invitation to set Jew against Jew, even a mechanism for toppling the current government and instating an ultra-right wing religious government that is liable to shoot down any accord before it gets off the ground.

Did Begin convene a summit or ask the settlers of Yamit in Sinai if they would agree to be evacuated, before sealing their fate at Camp David? Did he hold a symposium with the settler organizations before using force against them and destroying their homes? When Begin went to Camp David, he knew there would be no peace with Egypt without full withdrawal and evacuation of the settlements. Not only didn't he ask the settlers, but he didn't even get the okay of his own government.

When the time comes, Olmert needs to present the Knesset with a conclusive, sabotage-proof agreement that no one can refuse. He needs to seek fast-track negotiating authority of the kind that is sometimes used in the U.S. Congress -- an up or down vote with no amendments. Israel has a handful of violent extremists who are demanding that the country live by the sword forever for the sake of their perverse dream of a Greater Israel. Well, who's asking them?
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  1.   LOOK FORWARD TO CIVIL WAR MARCUS 10:38  |  PAUL HARRIS 02/09/07
  2.   Jews are the aborigines of Judea 10:44  |  AV 02/09/07
  3.   Ask the nation ! 11:05  |  Zev 02/09/07
  4.   JUST LEAVE THEM THERE 11:13  |  indrajaya 02/09/07
  5.   Solution for the Israeli Territories of Judea and Samaria 11:13  |  AV 02/09/07
  6.   and who`s asking you, yoel 11:16  |  joe 02/09/07
  7.   #4, Joe... 11:28  |  Silvienne 02/09/07
  8.   Begin, Sharon ...Olmert.. Leaders and a Follower! 11:43  |  Sharif Hafez 02/09/07
  9.   Marcus-Lenin Has The Solution To Your Problem 11:50  |  Light of the Nations 02/09/07
  10.   What has this government done for the Gaza `settlers`? 12:07  |  Paul Henzen 02/09/07
  11.   The PM is part of the settler movement 12:26  |  Natallie Durson 02/09/07
  12.   Not my first choice,,,,, 12:35  |  Esther 02/09/07
  13.   sometimes one gets the impression... part 1 12:51  |  saul a. readner 02/09/07
  14.   sometimes one gets the impression... part 2 12:52  |  saul a. readner 02/09/07
  15.   to AV #2 - on our ancestral land 12:54  |  zeev 02/09/07
  16.   The reason for why there is no Palestinian state 12:55  |  Martha Hoelzermann 02/09/07
  17.   #7 - where were you the last 10 years????? 13:08  |  Z Lando 02/09/07
  18.   SETTLEMENTS ARE ILLEGAL: 4theGENEVA CONVENTION 13:08  |  indrajaya 02/09/07
  19.   An agreement with whom? for what? 13:13  |  Shalom Freedman 02/09/07
  20.   to Light of the Nations #8 - just curious 13:20  |  zeev 02/09/07
  21.   indrajaya 13:29  |  Martha Hoelzermann 02/09/07
  22.   #12 Martha 13:43  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 02/09/07
  23.   Nobody has to ask them..... 13:55  |  Esther 02/09/07
  24.   waste of time 13:58  |  ravi 02/09/07
  25.   #14 indy slayer and geneva are not compatible 14:04  |  victor hardman 02/09/07
  26.   to M. Hoelzermann #12 - a quote for a quote 14:06  |  zeev 02/09/07
  27.   PM should be evacuating PLO enemy, NOT Jews! 14:10  |  Tomer 02/09/07
  28.   The US dog being wagged by the settler tail should care 14:13  |  Ivar 02/09/07
  29.   Margie in Tel Aviv 14:15  |  Martha Hoelzermann 02/09/07
  30.   # 17, # 21, MARTHA AND VICTOR 14:26  |  indrajaya 02/09/07
  31.   #17, Martha Hoelzemann 14:28  |  Silvienne 02/09/07
  32.   to M. Hoelzermann #17 - one quote more 14:33  |  zeev 02/09/07
  33.   It is not occupied Palestinian territory 14:44  |  Jackie 02/09/07
  34.   Is that `fuck the Jews` Baker, Zeev? 14:50  |  Jasmine Murphy 02/09/07
  35.   to Martha and Victor 14:51  |  indrajaya 02/09/07
  36.   Altalena 15:12  |  Choni Davidowitz 02/09/07
  37.   Judea and Samaria are Israeli Territories. Israel is sovereign. 15:31  |  AV 02/09/07
  38.   # 28 Jackie 15:39  |  Axel 02/09/07
  39.   to Jackie #28 15:41  |  isaac 02/09/07
  40.   # 35, AV 15:44  |  indrajaya 02/09/07
  41.   Judea and Samaria are Israeli Territories. Israel is sovereign. 16:11  |  AV 02/09/07
  42.   to Jasmine Murphy #32 16:14  |  zeev 02/09/07
  43.   Excellent article by Marcus - once the declaration of principles 16:21  |  Smadar 02/09/07
  44.   Zeev from Beersheva and Martha Hoelzermann 16:21  |  sh 02/09/07
  45.   # 41, AV 16:41  |  indrajaya 02/09/07
  46.   Lets look at history, maps, and demographics 16:53  |  Ivar 02/09/07
  47.   #28 Legal status of the occupied territories 16:53  |  Rebekah S 02/09/07
  48.   Palestinian Muslims are wrongminded in their conflict with Israel 16:58  |  Mary 02/09/07
  49.   to AV #37 - what sovereignty? 16:59  |  zeev 02/09/07
  50.   When will Laws Ever be Passed Making RACISM AGAINST JEWS Illegal? 17:13  |  Linda Rivera 02/09/07
  51.   JIHAD 17:24  |  indrajaya 02/09/07
  52.   I like to mention the Israeli Supreme Court (Rebekah S #45) 17:27  |  Tosefta 02/09/07
  53.   Mary, Jews are neither aboriginal, nor entitled to expel Pals. 17:27  |  Ivar 02/09/07
  54.   How to deal with the settlers 17:40  |  Tosefta 02/09/07
  55.   Judea and Samaria are Israeli Territories. Israel is sovereign. 17:42  |  AV 02/09/07
  56.   Marcus only your third paragaph made sense.. 17:42  |  Miriam 02/09/07
  57.   Churchill`s wisdom for Slowman 18:00  |  Yoel Marcus 02/09/07
  58.   PALESTINIANS 18:19  |  Emma 02/09/07
  59.   Axel 18:31  |  John 02/09/07
  60.   Zeev 18:33  |  John 02/09/07
  61.   Dejected "dream poster" 18:34  |  Esther 02/09/07
  62.   av 18:39  |  John 02/09/07
  63.   Let Them Stay 18:44  |  Moshe 02/09/07
  64.   Zeev 18:46  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 02/09/07
  65.   to sh 18:49  |  Jasmine Murphy 02/09/07
  66.   Ivar: you exaggerate 18:52  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 02/09/07
  67.   Most Israelis oppose further land concessions. 19:06  |  Chaim 02/09/07
  68.   Marcus&Co should be arrested and tried for treason,their advices 19:28  |  Absolute Sweden 02/09/07
  69.   Ivar,Estland is a freaky state,not entitled to opress Russians or 19:41  |  Absolute Sweden 02/09/07
  70.   Margie exaggerates my exaggeration 19:49  |  Ivar 02/09/07
  71.   to AV #55 19:51  |  zeev 02/09/07
  72.   30 indrajaya, 31 Silvienne, 32 zeev, 44 sh 20:14  |  Martha Hoelzermann 02/09/07
  73.   Palestinian Muslims are guilty of apartheid 21:07  |  Hal 02/09/07
  74.   Lefitsts cowardice again and again 21:16  |  Frank 02/09/07
  75.   Ivar my dear 21:21  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 02/09/07
  76.   #16 Martha Hoelzermann 21:29  |  Boycott 02/09/07
  77.   Why settlements are illegal (Marth Holzermann #72) 21:35  |  Tosefta 02/09/07
  78.   Marcus is inconsistent 22:01  |  Frank 02/09/07
  79.   Clarification for Martha H#72 (re Indrajaya, Silvienne, Zeev, Sh) 22:03  |  Tosefta 02/09/07
  80.   Exclusivity Maggie 23:03  |  Dan 02/09/07
  81.   The settlers are the true heros 23:04  |  Rick 02/09/07
  82.   #77toosofta doesnt explain why the geneva convention 23:07  |  victor hardman 02/09/07
  83.   Moral Relativism 23:07  |  Rick 02/09/07
  84.   #77 toosofffffta doesnt explain why law is different for israel 23:24  |  victor hardman 02/09/07
  85.   #79toosfta pt3 and jordans unlawful annexation 23:32  |  victor hardman 02/09/07
  86.   # 72 Martha 23:38  |  Axel 02/09/07
  87.   Who is asking them ? 23:40  |  Martin List,M.D. 02/09/07
  88.   # 83 rick 23:48  |  Axel 02/09/07
  89.   Boycott 23:53  |  Martha Hoelzermann 02/09/07
  90.   Tosefta and Axel 00:13  |  Martha Hoelzermann 03/09/07
  91.   to M. Hoelzermann #72 00:17  |  zeev 03/09/07
  92.   zeev 00:45  |  Martha Hoelzermann 03/09/07
  93.   # 90 martha 00:52  |  Axel 03/09/07
  94.   The world paid compensation to Jews 00:59  |  El-Birawi 03/09/07
  95.   Sderot 01:08  |  Shalom 03/09/07
  96.   Go torture somebody else (Hardhead Victor #82, 84, 85) 01:38  |  Tosefta 03/09/07
  97.   #89 Martha Hoelzermann 01:52  |  Boycott 03/09/07
  98.   Legalism (# 90 Martha Hoelzermann, re Axel) 01:54  |  Tosefta 03/09/07
  99.   #15 Z. Lando. That figure doesn`t include tens of 1000s maimed .. 03:02  |  Chaim 03/09/07
  100.   What will replace the lack of peace? 04:57  |  Mireya Siqueiros 03/09/07
  101.   #79, Tosefta 05:55  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 03/09/07
  102.   to M. Hoelzermann #92 06:08  |  zeev 03/09/07
  103.   # 51, FAKE INDRAJAYA (ON "JIHAD") 07:54  |  indrajaya 03/09/07
  104.   ZEEV 1 08:00  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 03/09/07
  105.   to M. Hoelzermann #90 08:07  |  zeev 03/09/07
  106.   ZEEV 2 08:12  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 03/09/07
  107.   67...you are NOT gods chosen people... 08:21  |  ravi 03/09/07
  108.   AV # 2, Jebusites are the aborigines of Judea. 08:37  |  Hillel Birnbaum 03/09/07
  109.   #108 god speaks through ravi??? 08:50  |  victor hardman 03/09/07
  110.   Axel 08:52  |  Martha Hoelzermann 03/09/07
  111.   El-Birawi 08:54  |  Martha Hoelzermann 03/09/07
  112.   Boycott 08:58  |  Martha Hoelzermann 03/09/07
  113.   Tosefta 09:06  |  Martha Hoelzermann 03/09/07
  114.   Naughty naughty, ad-hominem Hardman 09:11  |  Ivar 03/09/07
  115.   zeev 09:20  |  Martha Hoelzermann 03/09/07
  116.   to C.J. Kohn #106 09:46  |  zeev 03/09/07
  117.   #114 voltarie dealt with intelligent beings ivar 10:17  |  victor hardman 03/09/07
  118.   to M. Hoelzermann #115 11:27  |  zeev 03/09/07
  119.   Today, all of the descendents of Jebusites are Jews 12:48  |  AV 03/09/07
  120.   to Shalom #95 13:56  |  zeev 03/09/07
  121.   Martha Woodman #113 17:24  |  Tosefta 03/09/07
  122.   More nonsense? (Cipora J. Cone #101) 17:44  |  Tosefta 03/09/07
  123.   Tosefta - no, not correct 21:25  |  Martha Hoelzermann 03/09/07
  124.   #116, zeev 10:54  |  Cipor Julianna Koh 04/09/07
  125.   #122, Tosefta 11:00  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 04/09/07
  126.   to C.J. Kohn #124 15:35  |  zeev 04/09/07
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