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Let the settlers stay where they are
By Bradley Burston
Tags: IDF, settlers, Israel 

It's taken me all these years to finally realize that the settlers were right.

It came to me while checking the news schedule for this coming week. On Sunday, the IDF Chief of Staff is to award Medals of Valor and decorations, some of them posthumously, for courage in combat during the Second Lebanon War. At the same time, a pro-settler group called the Headquarters for the Salvation of the Nation and the Land plans to hold a parallel ceremony, handing out alternative medals of bravery - and cash prizes donated by U.S. Jews - to Israeli soldiers who refused orders to take part in the eviction of two families squatting in the Hebron souk.

At last, it all fell into logical place - the hardships, stumbling blocks and failures of the peace process, the dismal consequences of the disengagement from Gaza, the commandment to settle all of the Land of Israel and the rabbinical prohibitions against giving back one grain of soil.
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The answer is simple. The settlers are right. They should stay right where they are. No matter what. Even if there is an eventual peace. Even if the land they live on is part of a Palestinian state.

For decades, the leaders of the settlement movement have told us that they will not leave their homes for the sake of a decision of the sovereign government of the state of Israel. They vow to make any future substantial evacuation of settlers from the West Bank so gut-wrenchingly difficult as to be functionally impossible.

It is time we took the settlers at their word. They are not out there holding out for monetary compensation. They are out there in the primacy of their faith that a Jewish presence on the land of the Old Testament is a commandment and a sacrament. The settlement movement is firm in its view that no elected government of Israel has the right to uproot the Jewish residents of Judea, Samaria, and the neighborhoods of Jerusalem captured in the 1967 Six Day War.

It is true that the vast majority of settlers reject the idea of soldiers refusing military orders. But it is also true that over the Green Line, Israeli defiance of Israeli law is by no means limited to a radical settler fringe. From its inception, the governing operational principle of the settlement movement has been to take action which is either questionably legal or clearly illegal, and then to force, finesse, or sleaze the way to retroactive ratification.

The ingenuous mantra of the settler movement "We're here because the government of Israel sent us here," is thus doubly dishonest. These people were not expelled to the West Bank, evacuated to the West Bank, ordered to the West Bank, banished to the West Bank.

Every Jewish Israeli living beyond the Green Line is a settler by choice. Many of them went there in defiance of the government. Many went to make it impossible for the government to change the status of the land under a peace agreement with the Palestinians.

Every single one of them went there knowing that there was a chance that they'd be uprooted one day under a government decision.

They went there by choice. Not the government's choice. Their choice. Does anyone seriously think that if the government decided against their being there, they would just go ahead and move because the government sent them back?

In fact, after several generations of Israelis have been born on the West Bank, it could be said that Israel has no right at this point to order them back.

Let us, then, take the settlers at their word. If settling the land captured in 1967 is of paramount importance to the Jewish people, settling the land should also take precedence over making sure that land belongs to the Jewish state.

And while we're at it, let us take the Palestinians at theirs. If they are so concerned about the evils of apartheid, then they must accept the idea of Jews living in their midst.

On the scale of racist evils, surely a government - like Saudi Arabia for example, or a potential Palestine - which forbids religious or ethnic or national groups from entering or living within its borders, has much to answer for.

Under a future peace agreement, it is reasonable to expect that settlers from across the West Bank will be invited to resettle in Green Line settlement blocs to be annexed to Israel in a territorial exchange with the Palestinians.

But who could blame settlers in outlying enclaves for refusing to budge, given the government's abysmal track record in resettling less than 10,000 uprooted families since the 2005 disengagement?

Let them stay. Let them stay right where they are. Let them have the courage of their beliefs. It's a test. For the settlers and, especially, for the Palestinians.

And if the Palestinians counter that Israel must allow an equal number of Palestinian refugees into Israel proper, say 200,000 of them, so be it.

We made this mess in the West Bank. We'll have to be creative about how we set it right.


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  1.   BRADLEY IS WRONG FROM START TO FINISH 12:15  |  PAUL HARRIS 31/08/07
  2.   YOU CREATED THIS MESS, MAKE IT RIGHT BY THE LAWS 12:16  |  indrajaya 31/08/07
  3.   YOU CREATED THIS MESS, MAKE IT RIGHT BY THE LAWS 12:16  |  indrajaya 31/08/07
  4.   WHY NOT? 12:32  |  indrajaya 31/08/07
  5.   Soldiers receiving medals 12:38  |  Yedidya Kennard 31/08/07
  6.   BB now you`re talking turkey 12:42  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 31/08/07
  7.   Not Under Israeli Protection 12:43  |  dyinglikeflies 31/08/07
  8.   Does This Include Tel-Aviv? 12:48  |  Ben Israel 31/08/07
  9.   WHY NOT 13:03  |  indrajaya 31/08/07
  10.   why? 13:27  |  dullah 31/08/07
  11.   This article has 3 problems,all settlements are illegal,the 13:31  |  lakshmi 31/08/07
  12.   Ben Israel It is true 13:35  |  truth 31/08/07
  13.   A couple of points (3 actually) 13:41  |  Rowan Berkeley 31/08/07
  14.   Mutatis Mutandis 13:44  |  Fairman 31/08/07
  15.   Just so. Those acting in faith... 13:56  |  Giles Martin 31/08/07
  16.   Bradley, HOORAY!!! 14:00  |  Lynn 31/08/07
  17.   long-overdue creativity 14:00  |  Paul 31/08/07
  18.   Burston`s apartment in Gilo is just as `illegal` 14:14  |  Dani 31/08/07
  19.   Emet! 14:33  |  akiva P 31/08/07
  20.   #6 in Tel Aviv, sure its not 6 in the city 14:33  |  Tamir Palestine 31/08/07
  21.   Bradley has stolen my idea... 14:34  |  Maimon 31/08/07
  22.   If settlers are there to stay, what of that 2-state solution? 14:35  |  dana 31/08/07
  23.   I agree Haaretz, don`t sweat it 14:35  |  Sam 31/08/07
  24.   What a good idea! 14:39  |  Leandro 31/08/07
  25.   indrajaya.... 14:41  |  Maimon 31/08/07
  26.   BRADLEY 14:49  |  EFRAIM 31/08/07
  27.   pals cannot counter claim with their pal return 14:54  |  Joseph E . 31/08/07
  28.   Lakshmi, you have to be realistic 14:56  |  Leandro 31/08/07
  29.   lakshmi # 10 15:07  |  Lynn 31/08/07
  30.   # 9 dullah of Beirut 15:09  |  Lynn 31/08/07
  31.   I am surprised it took you that long, Bradley 15:11  |  Tosefta 31/08/07
  32.   Hey Lynn, no15: 99% of earth is separated by culture/nationality 15:18  |  John Ryan 31/08/07
  33.   12# and 8# 15:18  |  A.M. 31/08/07
  34.   A just idea, but 15:19  |  David Hawkins 31/08/07
  35.   Not to forget the Algerian option 15:32  |  Tosefta 31/08/07
  36.   Jews are NATIVES to Judea and Samaria NOT Settlers 15:39  |  David 31/08/07
  37.   Let them stay 15:42  |  Simon the J 31/08/07
  38.   Israel is developing an alternate two state solution? 15:45  |  Natallie Durson 31/08/07
  39.   21Labhras18 is right,this is illegal scum,just like the whites 15:53  |  lakshmi 31/08/07
  40.   # 20 Joseph E 16:03  |  Lynn 31/08/07
  41.   Boker tov eliyahu burston 16:04  |  sh 31/08/07
  42.   Don`t bother me with facts 16:06  |  Evelyn 31/08/07
  43.   Bradley`s grounds for deletion 16:08  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 31/08/07
  44.   lakshmi, fear not 16:10  |  sh 31/08/07
  45.   Jews are the aborigines of Judea 16:12  |  AV 31/08/07
  46.   #23toosofta and extreme stupidity extolled 16:14  |  victor hardman 31/08/07
  47.   FINALLY, Huzza, huzza !! 16:16  |  Joe 31/08/07
  48.   If Muslims are unable to coexist with Jews among them 16:17  |  AV 31/08/07
  49.   #18 labarse the brass has a problem with settlers 16:18  |  victor hardman 31/08/07
  50.   Deluded people. 16:19  |  David 31/08/07
  51.   Good idea and one even better... 16:30  |  bat yam 31/08/07
  52.   FINE WITH ME!! 16:33  |  Omar 31/08/07
  53.   "Settler"? "Inhabitant", or "citizen", even "resident". 16:33  |  AV 31/08/07
  54.   Take a trip to the future 16:35  |  B 31/08/07
  55.   #10LACKEY HAS 3 PROBLEMS HE IS 16:37  |  PAUL HARRIS 31/08/07
  56.   Bradley Burston - THE SETTLERS ARE RIGHT 16:49  |  Dr David I. Gross 31/08/07
  57.   Lynn 16:50  |  Walid 31/08/07
  58.   Judea/Samaria JewsMust be Given Every Means to PROTECT Themselves 16:51  |  Linda Rivera 31/08/07
  59.   Settlers ? 16:53  |  Rachel Simson 31/08/07
  60.   By UN law, Settlemants are Illegal 16:57  |  dan 31/08/07
  61.   It`s fair for the Jews to remain among the Pals 16:58  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 31/08/07
  62.   Lynn #15 16:58  |  EFRAIM 31/08/07
  63.   Sure thing, let them stay - except for one thing... 16:59  |  Danny 31/08/07
  64.   Peacefeul coexistence starts with neighbors 17:00  |  Polybios 31/08/07
  65.   David Hawkins 17:01  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 31/08/07
  66.   Ahavat Yisrael 17:02  |  Choni Davidowitz 31/08/07
  67.   VA Joe 17:08  |  Walid 31/08/07
  68.   Dumping settlers on the palestinians 17:09  |  Susan 31/08/07
  69.   Paul 17:15  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 31/08/07
  70.   Rowan Berkeley - US Recognition will Never Happen 17:22  |  Mark of Lewiston 31/08/07
  71.   Victor Hardman 17:24  |  Walid 31/08/07
  72.   #30 Big-OT Bed_fast 17:30  |  Labhras 31/08/07
  73.   Good idea and one even better... 17:32  |  bat yam 31/08/07
  74.   # 23 John Ryan 17:36  |  Lynn 31/08/07
  75.   # 31 Omar of Ramallah 17:40  |  Lynn 31/08/07
  76.   One Million JEWISH Refugees&Their Descendants Must be COMPENSATED 17:41  |  Linda Rivera 31/08/07
  77.   Not to forget the Algerian option - 2nd try 17:41  |  Tosefta 31/08/07
  78.   Pastrami & Champagne 17:47  |  Fed Up 31/08/07
  79.   Aha time for Me. Burston 17:50  |  Michael N 31/08/07
  80.   #42 Walid 17:53  |  Labhras 31/08/07
  81.   TO MAIMON # 17 17:55  |  indrajaya 31/08/07
  82.   Very bad Idea 17:59  |  danite 31/08/07
  83.   Fair`s fair? 18:00  |  W 31/08/07
  84.   #39 Susan 18:05  |  Labhras 31/08/07
  85.   Bradley stop experimenting with other peoples lives 18:06  |  Burned Liberal 31/08/07
  86.   #47 Linda U R confused - Palestinian Refugees NOT Jewish 18:10  |  Fed Up 31/08/07
  87.   On stolen land - Israeli "justice"? (END) 18:11  |  JW 31/08/07
  88.   #43 labarse the brass and an inability to absorb fact 18:12  |  victor hardman 31/08/07
  89.   Labhras the racist 18:14  |  Danite 31/08/07
  90.   Building and Dismantling 18:18  |  Mark of Lewiston 31/08/07
  91.   Settlers/Combat troops re:dyinglikeflys 18:22  |  Shimon 31/08/07
  92.   #47walid are you grateful for the french hiving lebanon from syri 18:28  |  victor hardman 31/08/07
  93.   Solution for the Israeli Territorities of Judea and Samaria 18:30  |  AV 31/08/07
  94.   Lynn #50 & #15 18:33  |  GABE1 31/08/07
  95.   Good for you, Omar #35 18:34  |  Polybios 31/08/07
  96.   Danite 18:39  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 31/08/07
  97.   #66 Danite 18:40  |  Labhras 31/08/07
  98.   If Arab Muslims didnt declare war - thered be no refugees 18:41  |  Joe 31/08/07
  99.   No need to "let" them stay where they are. They will anyway 18:41  |  S 31/08/07
  100.   Peace forum: No racists accepted 18:44  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 31/08/07
  101.   Walid # 40 18:45  |  Lynn 31/08/07
  102.   response to 68 18:48  |  pinny 31/08/07
  103.   Danite on hypocracy. 18:52  |  Ibrahim 31/08/07
  104.   #65 For Big-OT in Tel Aviv re facts 18:58  |  Labhras 31/08/07
  105.   All by Choice? 19:06  |  CHGODMK 31/08/07
  106.   labhras and walid, fine bedfellows 19:06  |  peter 31/08/07
  107.   Labhras - Ad Hominum Attacks 19:11  |  Mark of Lewiston 31/08/07
  108.   Hardhead Victor and the mandate (#70; re Labhras) 19:14  |  Tosefta 31/08/07
  109.   #77- Joe cuts to the chase 19:19  |  peter 31/08/07
  110.   Ibrahim 19:22  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 31/08/07
  111.   I suggest two things about Jews presently settled in Judea, 19:24  |  Avihu 31/08/07
  112.   #51 Susan in neverland 19:27  |  peter 31/08/07
  113.   Mark of Lewiston 19:28  |  Lynn 31/08/07
  114.   Settlers i.e me - Gee thanks Bradley do you relly mean it? 19:33  |  Happy Settler 31/08/07
  115.   60tosefta & test cases. 19:36  |  curious 31/08/07
  116.   Victor HardMan and the mandate (#70; re Labhras) 19:40  |  Tosefta 31/08/07
  117.   Lynn 19:45  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 31/08/07
  118.   Exacty where is the "Arab/Galilean Triangle"? 19:52  |  Catherine 31/08/07
  119.   Settlements to Destroy Israel as "Jewish" Nation 19:56  |  Victor 31/08/07
  120.   Islamic Waqf destroys Temple Mount 20:07  |  AV 31/08/07
  121.   "Arabs will become nothing..." 20:07  |  CHGODMK 31/08/07
  122.   Polybios and Lynn 20:09  |  Omar 31/08/07
  123.   Location of the Temple found 20:16  |  AV 31/08/07
  124.   #89 Mark of Lewiston 20:16  |  Labhras 31/08/07
  125.   #34 bat yam 20:19  |  Boycott 31/08/07
  126.   Settlers Can Stay 20:25  |  Bernie 31/08/07
  127.   Settlers staying in Palestine? 20:25  |  P. J. Casey 31/08/07
  128.   With Holy of Holies located, Rabbis to let Jews on Temple Mount 20:27  |  AV 31/08/07
  129.   #59 Linda Rivera 20:30  |  Jimmy 31/08/07
  130.   To Victor in Toronto 20:31  |  Omar 31/08/07
  131.   #74 Shimon 20:36  |  Boycott 31/08/07
  132.   cant be one sided 20:37  |  ravi 31/08/07
  133.   # 10 Lapsha, take your leagal nonsense and stick it... 20:39  |  Misha 31/08/07
  134.   #76 AV The Federal Republic of Israel 20:44  |  Boycott 31/08/07
  135.   Victor Hardman 20:44  |  Walid 31/08/07
  136.   Lynn 20:48  |  Mark of Lewiston 31/08/07
  137.   CHGODMK 20:48  |  melba 31/08/07
  138.   Labouring arse 20:48  |  Jasmine Murphy 31/08/07
  139.   #102 Victor in Toronto 20:51  |  Boycott 31/08/07
  140.   # 107 Yep, again I feel that Irish`s muhamed drunk... 20:56  |  Misha 31/08/07
  141.   Danite 20:58  |  Walid 31/08/07
  142.   #107 Labhras 21:03  |  Boycott 31/08/07
  143.   "ARABS WILL BECOME NOTHING" 21:04  |  GABE1 31/08/07
  144.   Labhras and his double standards 21:12  |  Danite 31/08/07
  145.   Mark of Lewiston, a question... 21:15  |  Ibrahim 31/08/07
  146.   Margie Re Lynn @100 21:15  |  GABE1 31/08/07
  147.   Ibrahim joins the fun? 21:19  |  Danite 31/08/07
  148.   Victor Hardman 21:22  |  Walid 31/08/07
  149.   The Arrogance of Labhras 21:22  |  Danite 31/08/07
  150.   Margie in Tel Aviv 21:23  |  Danite 31/08/07
  151.   Before 1948 JEWS were known as the Palestinians 21:26  |  Linda Rivera 31/08/07
  152.   Lynn 21:28  |  Walid 31/08/07
  153.   "Arabs Will Become Something": Facts Are Abundant 21:28  |  CHGODMK 31/08/07
  154.   Take it seriously 21:30  |  The Northern Wind 31/08/07
  155.   Danite 21:31  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 31/08/07
  156.   Well Walid 21:32  |  Danite 31/08/07
  157.   Ibrahim Walid and Labhras 21:34  |  Danite 31/08/07
  158.   Let Jews live in a Palestinian state 21:34  |  steve 31/08/07
  159.   #127 Danite 21:47  |  Labhras 31/08/07
  160.   149 steve & "religious freedom." 21:54  |  curious 31/08/07
  161.   @120 Boycott. 21:55  |  Labhras 31/08/07
  162.   Danite 21:58  |  Walid 31/08/07
  163.   Lynn?, Margie, John Ryan ... JewBasher? 22:03  |  Bernie 31/08/07
  164.   Labouring arse D`OH! 22:03  |  Jasmine Murphy 31/08/07
  165.   No 132 Walid an apology to Margie maybe? 22:04  |  Gerald 31/08/07
  166.   In Demographic Terms... 22:04  |  CHGODMK 31/08/07
  167.   PLO LEADER: The PALESTINIAN PEOPLE DOES NOT EXIST 22:05  |  Linda Rivera 31/08/07
  168.   Margie, regarding Settlers 22:05  |  Bernie 31/08/07
  169.   OAS option 22:06  |  Mark Lincoln 31/08/07
  170.   There are also Christian Palestinian Refugees 22:06  |  Fed Up 31/08/07
  171.   Linda Rivera in New York 22:06  |  Omar 31/08/07
  172.   #131 misha (diminutive michael). 22:09  |  Labhras 31/08/07
  173.   dyinglikeflies, they will not be slaughtered 22:09  |  Bernie 31/08/07
  174.   60 years- Palestinians will NEVER give up. NEVER! 22:11  |  Fed Up 31/08/07
  175.   Tosefta - Life on Fantasy Island 22:12  |  Mark Lincoln 31/08/07
  176.   Lakshmi, If they Bought the Land from Arabs 22:12  |  Bernie 31/08/07
  177.   I have been saying this for years. If their are israeli Arabs... 22:13  |  David G 31/08/07
  178.   Steve, 100% Correct 22:14  |  Bernie 31/08/07
  179.   Linda Rivera, Of Course They Were 22:16  |  Bernie 31/08/07
  180.   Sorry Linda Rivera 22:17  |  Mark Lincoln 31/08/07
  181.   #116toosofta cannot distinguish between the end of the british ma 22:21  |  victor hardman 31/08/07
  182.   Danite 22:23  |  Walid 31/08/07
  183.   The Settlers Can Protect Themselves 22:24  |  Efox 31/08/07
  184.   #135 Danite 22:25  |  Labhras 31/08/07
  185.   #148 walid and the settlers of ulster 22:27  |  victor hardman 31/08/07
  186.   Take the Palestinians at Their Word? Which Word? 22:28  |  Efox 31/08/07
  187.   Danite....be careful 22:28  |  Ibrahim 31/08/07
  188.   Margie In Tel Aviv...I agree... 22:35  |  Ibrahim 31/08/07
  189.   Tofseta # 77 you`re a star 22:36  |  Serenity 31/08/07
  190.   Margie Toda raba 22:36  |  Danite 31/08/07
  191.   Enlightening Linda 22:37  |  Mark Lincoln 31/08/07
  192.   bernie 22:37  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 31/08/07
  193.   Walid Hello 22:40  |  Danite 31/08/07
  194.   The French (military) option 22:41  |  Tosefta 31/08/07
  195.   "Arabs Will Become Something": Facts Are Abundant 22:42  |  GABE 1 31/08/07
  196.   Thank you, Gerald you are correct 22:43  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 31/08/07
  197.   Gerald 22:44  |  Walid 31/08/07
  198.   David G 22:48  |  Omar 31/08/07
  199.   # 163 Bernie 22:50  |  Lynn 31/08/07
  200.   Labhras 22:51  |  Danite 31/08/07
  201.   Bradley Only missed one word out -`abandon` 22:53  |  baruch Nili 31/08/07
  202.   @135 Danite/Walid/Ibrahim/et al 22:53  |  Labhras 31/08/07
  203.   To Linda Rivera #76 22:54  |  Serenity 31/08/07
  204.   Danite about Walid again, I`m getting bored with this 22:55  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 31/08/07
  205.   n Demographic Terms... 22:59  |  GABE1 31/08/07
  206.   Margie...now the settlers bought the land from who? 23:00  |  Ibrahim 31/08/07
  207.   Oh, what torture (Hardhead Victor #179) 23:03  |  Tosefta 31/08/07
  208.   walid and labhras dancing in the dark 23:04  |  peter 31/08/07
  209.   fed up....who are these christian 23:09  |  maria 31/08/07
  210.   Margie and `Palestinian` land laws 23:11  |  Omar 31/08/07
  211.   #168 earth to Bernie, come in Bernie 23:17  |  peter 31/08/07
  212.   David G....ahlan wa sahlan 23:41  |  Ibrahim 31/08/07
  213.   68Susan,Labhras 124,Bernie 174,Susan,well said,this is a plan to 23:47  |  lakshmi 31/08/07
  214.   Margie of Tel Aviv 23:48  |  Lynn 31/08/07
  215.   Peter, I Know It is Hard to Understand 23:48  |  Bernie 31/08/07
  216.   The moral bankruptcy of Burston`s arguments 23:51  |  Joe 31/08/07
  217.   # 188 Omar 23:52  |  Lynn 31/08/07
  218.   #75 Omar 23:55  |  Tess 31/08/07
  219.   Regardless of the "solution," most settlers 23:56  |  spyguy 31/08/07
  220.   Brilliant idea ! 23:57  |  Esther 31/08/07
  221.   David G 23:58  |  Tareq 31/08/07
  222.   Walid # 152 23:59  |  Lynn 31/08/07
  223.   The French (military) option 00:05  |  Tosefta 01/09/07
  224.   Oh, what torture (Hardhead Victor #179) 00:06  |  Tosefta 01/09/07
  225.   Bernie has difficulty comprehending 00:11  |  peter 01/09/07
  226.   #200 THE FACILE ARGUMENT REVOLVES 00:12  |  PAUL HARRIS 01/09/07
  227.   Demographic Terms Indeed 00:19  |  CHGODMK 01/09/07
  228.   "Europeans have no problem with ethnic cleansing..." 00:29  |  CHGODMK 01/09/07
  229.   A most sensible suggestion 00:36  |  Shelley 01/09/07
  230.   Ibrahim 00:36  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 01/09/07
  231.   THEY WILL NOT BE LEFT BEHIND 1 00:43  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 01/09/07
  232.   THEY WILL NOT BE LEFT BEHIND 2 00:49  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 01/09/07
  233.   a creative suggestion by Bradley Burston but not realistic 00:57  |  Smadar 01/09/07
  234.   Margie in Tel Aviv 00:59  |  Danite 01/09/07
  235.   Labrhas 01:01  |  Danite 01/09/07
  236.   Ibrahim 01:04  |  Danite 01/09/07
  237.   Ibrahim 01:05  |  Mark of Lewiston 01/09/07
  238.   The Abominable Slowman 01:07  |  Bradley Burston 01/09/07
  239.   Linda Rivera 01:09  |  GABE1 01/09/07
  240.   @195 Walid 01:16  |  Labhras 01/09/07
  241.   Margie in Tel Aviv #202 01:19  |  GABE1 01/09/07
  242.   #151 Linda Rivera - Historical correction 01:20  |  Boycott 01/09/07
  243.   @235 Danite 01:38  |  Labhras 01/09/07
  244.   "The settlements were and are a mistake" 01:53  |  Sam 01/09/07
  245.   settlers 01:57  |  Ira Goldburg 01/09/07
  246.   Danite - so? 02:22  |  Mark Lincoln 01/09/07
  247.   Mark of Lewiston, Margie, Ibrahim and schizo 02:25  |  Mark Lincoln 01/09/07
  248.   Labhras - Danite and discrimination 02:31  |  Mark Lincoln 01/09/07
  249.   #246, Mark Lincoln 02:52  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 01/09/07
  250.   # 240 Labhras 02:55  |  Lynn 01/09/07
  251.   165Gerald,Ibrahim,Labhras &Walid,I can offer some insight into 03:36  |  lakshmi 01/09/07
  252.   Setlers will revolt - and win! 03:43  |  Omran 01/09/07
  253.   Burston, you`re right Israel made the mistake 03:44  |  Elias Khoury 01/09/07
  254.   Mark of Lewiston 03:50  |  Walid 01/09/07
  255.   DANITE #147, WHAT A SHOCK 03:52  |  Palestinian Prince 01/09/07
  256.   Linda Rivera as far as calling them "Palestinians" 03:56  |  Palestinian Prince 01/09/07
  257.   Demographic Terms Indeed 04:12  |  GABE1 01/09/07
  258.   Twaddle Cipora 04:14  |  Mark Lincoln 01/09/07
  259.   "Europeans have no problem with ethnic cleansing..." 04:19  |  GABE1 01/09/07
  260.   CIPORA #231/232 04:23  |  GABE1 01/09/07
  261.   What Israel needs to do 04:37  |  steve 01/09/07
  262.   Margie, I will take that to mean you have no source. 04:46  |  Ibrahim 01/09/07
  263.   Laskshmi I am very sorry to hear this... 04:48  |  Ibrahim 01/09/07
  264.   Danite 04:52  |  Ibrahim 01/09/07
  265.   Demographic Terms Indeed 04:57  |  CHGODMK 01/09/07
  266.   HAARETZ CENSOR PROBLEM REPORT 05:04  |  Bradley 01/09/07
  267.   "Europeans have no problem with ethnic cleansing..." 05:06  |  CHGODMK 01/09/07
  268.   Israel is NOT a cheese board ! 05:13  |  Akram Zekaria 01/09/07
  269.   A BIG QUESTION TO THE CENSOR 05:22  |  Bradley 01/09/07
  270.   ?Is Bradley`s apartment in Dar al-Islam...? 05:32  |  enrique 01/09/07
  271.   a funny story by bradley 05:33  |  VIPER 01/09/07
  272.   ALL Isrealis PART of Isreal 05:35  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 01/09/07
  273.   won`t happen 05:47  |  Tova 01/09/07
  274.   Burston`s right, more or less 05:50  |  Colin Wright 01/09/07
  275.   Walid 05:56  |  Lynn 01/09/07
  276.   Ibrahim #262 06:00  |  Lynn 01/09/07
  277.   #258, Mark Lincoln, No! 06:06  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 01/09/07
  278.   261 steve from frostnite falls 06:08  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 01/09/07
  279.   Al Qaida school of thought under western disguise 06:24  |  Joseph E . 01/09/07
  280.   Labhras "the appropriate venue"LOL 06:36  |  danite 01/09/07
  281.   mark Lincoln whigs out of reality 06:38  |  Danite 01/09/07
  282.   Mark Lincolns sociology lesson 06:40  |  danite 01/09/07
  283.   Palestinian prince 06:42  |  Danite 01/09/07
  284.   Ibrahim 06:44  |  Danite 01/09/07
  285.   Peter 07:08  |  Bernie 01/09/07
  286.   Cipora, A Homeland Not a State 07:12  |  Bernie 01/09/07
  287.   no. 278 Jon 07:16  |  steve 01/09/07
  288.   @70 Mark of Lewiston 08:46  |  Rowan Berkeley 01/09/07
  289.   #286 bernies remake of history is abad joke 09:40  |  victor hardman 01/09/07
  290.   #271 viper sees wombats in the out back 10:42  |  victor hardman 01/09/07
  291.   Hamas should have fatah clean with their tongues hamas toilets 10:44  |  Joseph E . 01/09/07
  292.   231/2 11:14  |  baruch Nili 01/09/07
  293.   #280 Danite 13:41  |  Labhras 01/09/07
  294.   Viper 13:52  |  Rab Burns 01/09/07
  295.   STEVE AGAIN FROM VIKING LAND 14:01  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 01/09/07
  296.   ideally this should work, but..... 14:06  |  Tess 01/09/07
  297.   #289 Big -OT in Bed-fast 14:15  |  Labhras 01/09/07
  298.   Ibrahim 14:19  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 01/09/07
  299.   #297 labarse and fact are far apart 14:49  |  victor hardman 01/09/07
  300.   Twaddle: Mark Lincoln 14:58  |  Jasmine Murphy 01/09/07
  301.   Need for a test case 15:15  |  Tosefta 01/09/07
  302.   #98 Labhras 15:28  |  Michael II 01/09/07
  303.   Demographic Terms Indeed #265 15:34  |  GABE1 01/09/07
  304.   CHFCUK #267 15:38  |  GABE1 01/09/07
  305.   Settlers in their own country? 15:56  |  Paul Henzen 01/09/07
  306.   "298 Big-OT in Bed -Fast 16:04  |  Labhras 01/09/07
  307.   Victor Hardhead I hear you 16:04  |  Mark Lincoln 01/09/07
  308.   It isn`t collective punishment simply becaus Hamas are bad guys? 16:07  |  Mark Lincoln 01/09/07
  309.   Peace forum: No racists accepted 16:21  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 01/09/07
  310.   #52 Omar, how do you treat guests? & who believes it 16:40  |  topanga 01/09/07
  311.   Gaza under Collective Punishment (Mark Lincoln #308) 16:46  |  Tosefta 01/09/07
  312.   Tel Aviv settlers and West Bank settlers 16:53  |  Rudi 01/09/07
  313.   no. 295 Jon 17:01  |  steve 01/09/07
  314.   #239 GABE1 - Thanks, GABE ! 17:17  |  Linda Rivera 01/09/07
  315.   #256 "Palestinian" Prince-Tell that to the PLO Leader 17:20  |  Linda Rivera 01/09/07
  316.   Joseph E 17:39  |  Walid 01/09/07
  317.   We`re staying here and so is Israel. 17:41  |  Chaim 01/09/07
  318.   labhras are you for real?? 17:42  |  Danite 01/09/07
  319.   Labhras PS 17:44  |  Danite 01/09/07
  320.   #302 Michael II 17:57  |  Labhras 01/09/07
  321.   Hi Walid 17:59  |  Mark of Lewiston 01/09/07
  322.   WHAT DID YOU SMOKE THIS MORNING BRADLEY??? 18:01  |  Alon Fisher 01/09/07
  323.   To #8 Ben-Israel and all other zealots 18:08  |  B`galil 01/09/07
  324.   Margie and Lynn 18:10  |  Ibrahim 01/09/07
  325.   #86 The US/EU/UN Immoral Silence on JEWISH Refugees 18:12  |  Linda Rivera 01/09/07
  326.   #309 Walid 19:01  |  Labhras 01/09/07
  327.   #313 and 314 danite 19:35  |  Labhras 01/09/07
  328.   First of all they are criminals 19:36  |  Jens 01/09/07
  329.   Burston, The Left Gave Us Oslo 19:46  |  Yoram 01/09/07
  330.   Nice to see good sense of the left 19:51  |  Danny Simkin 01/09/07
  331.   Gaza under Collective Punishment (Mark Lincoln #308) 19:53  |  Tosefta 01/09/07
  332.   B`galil #318 Story Teller Extraordinaire 19:53  |  GABE1 01/09/07
  333.   Peace forum: No racists accepted 19:57  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 01/09/07
  334.   #318 How was leaving Gaza, or any retreat, "best for Israel"? 20:02  |  Chaim 01/09/07
  335.   I don`t agree with Bradley this time 20:03  |  Hanna Bard 01/09/07
  336.   Danite #283, that`s not fair 20:03  |  Palestinian Prince 01/09/07
  337.   Linda Rivera #310 interesting however 20:09  |  Palestinian Prince 01/09/07
  338.   Ibrahim 20:29  |  Walid 01/09/07
  339.   Walid, perhaps 20:52  |  Ibrahim 01/09/07
  340.   #308, Mark Lincoln, :"starving Gaza" 20:56  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 01/09/07
  341.   An apartheid state 20:59  |  Daniel 01/09/07
  342.   Ibrahim & Lynn 21:00  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 01/09/07
  343.   BALESTINIAN BRINCE #337 Re Linda Rivera 21:16  |  GABE1 01/09/07
  344.   HAARETZ CENSOR 21:35  |  Bradley 01/09/07
  345.   #328 jens and english a criminal is someone convicted of a crime 21:46  |  victor hardman 01/09/07
  346.   #307 mark says the usa has no declaration of independence it happ 21:50  |  victor hardman 01/09/07
  347.   #306labarse and the two short planks 21:52  |  victor hardman 01/09/07
  348.   Walid on Balestinians and Lebanon 21:54  |  Gabe1 01/09/07
  349.   Margie of SA-Re her PIECE FORUMS 22:00  |  GABE 1 01/09/07
  350.   Daniel, Daniel: not fair 22:01  |  Jasmine Murphy 01/09/07
  351.   EDUCATING Margie Of SA re Balestinians. 22:03  |  GABE1 01/09/07
  352.   PIECE FORUMS and Margie Of SA 22:08  |  GABE1 01/09/07
  353.   #338 Walid 22:13  |  Labhras 01/09/07
  354.   Israel is neither a Chess board or the `Final Solution`. 22:14  |  Akram Zekaria 01/09/07
  355.   Gabe 1- #348 22:25  |  salvattore 01/09/07
  356.   #347 Big-OT in bed-fast 22:35  |  Labhras 01/09/07
  357.   #331, Tosefta 22:40  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 01/09/07
  358.   #346 Big-Ot in bed-fast 22:49  |  Labhras 01/09/07
  359.   Danite you are very wrong 22:49  |  Maimon 01/09/07
  360.   Gabe 22:59  |  Walid 01/09/07
  361.   I`ve been saying this for AGES! 23:04  |  Lisha 01/09/07
  362.   Israel is the New South Africa! 23:10  |  Proud Israel-Basher 01/09/07
  363.   Labhras 23:10  |  Walid 01/09/07
  364.   #357, Tosefta, post script 23:14  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 01/09/07
  365.   #358 labarse its obvious from your posts that you know sfa 23:18  |  victor hardman 01/09/07
  366.   The easier solution 23:19  |  Terminator 01/09/07
  367.   Margie in Tel Aviv 23:20  |  Walid 01/09/07
  368.   Palestinian Prince 23:25  |  Danite 01/09/07
  369.   Labrhas runs 23:26  |  Danite 01/09/07
  370.   maimon 23:29  |  Danite 01/09/07
  371.   Labhras 23:30  |  Walid 01/09/07
  372.   To Gabe #332 Think about it 23:32  |  B`galil 01/09/07
  373.   Walid and Ibrahim re MARGIE #339 23:36  |  GABE1 01/09/07
  374.   To Chaim #334 - I`ll tell U what`s best for Israel 23:42  |  B`galil 01/09/07
  375.   #359, Maimon 23:46  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 01/09/07
  376.   Danite, you choose not to see my argument.. 23:50  |  Maimon 01/09/07
  377.   #371 23:59  |  Labhras 01/09/07
  378.   #363 Walid 00:03  |  Labhras 02/09/07
  379.   # 324 Ibrahim 00:03  |  Lynn 02/09/07
  380.   Salvattore #355 00:04  |  GABE1 02/09/07
  381.   Walid #360 00:11  |  GABE1 02/09/07
  382.   B`galil #372 00:28  |  GABE1 02/09/07
  383.   Danite #370 00:32  |  GABE1 02/09/07
  384.   Gabe 1-#380 00:36  |  Salvattore 02/09/07
  385.   Salvattore #384 00:55  |  GABE1 02/09/07
  386.   Gabe 00:58  |  Walid 02/09/07
  387.   Freedoom of Residence Art.13 "Univ.Decl.fo HumanRts.signed Gov. 00:58  |  sam 02/09/07
  388.   Enough of hepocrisy & demagogue. 01:06  |  Akram Zekaria 02/09/07
  389.   Collective Punishment 01:33  |  Tosefta 02/09/07
  390.   DNA proves Palestinian Muslims are foreign invaders 01:56  |  Hal 02/09/07
  391.   If Gazans dont want to be at war, Hamas can make a peace treaty 02:06  |  Joe 02/09/07
  392.   England didnt pay Nazi Germany`s electricity bills while at war 02:09  |  Hal 02/09/07
  393.   #389, Tosefta 02:14  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 02/09/07
  394.   Can you Tell Me the Difference 02:23  |  Yehoshua 02/09/07
  395.   Walid #386 02:30  |  GABE1 02/09/07
  396.   Interpretation (Cipora J Cone #393) 02:35  |  Tosefta 02/09/07
  397.   Another real string evidence for arab Walid 02:54  |  Tamir Palestine 02/09/07
  398.   to 362 proud israel-basher 03:09  |  Bernd 02/09/07
  399.   393# Cipora/ 389# Tosefts. 03:12  |  Akram Zekaria 02/09/07
  400.   HAARETZ CENSOR 03:15  |  Bursting Bradley 02/09/07
  401.   palestinian land law, walid and labhras 03:20  |  peter 02/09/07
  402.   Tosefta # 389 03:26  |  Lynn 02/09/07
  403.   Walid tell me where is the Land of Punt or Puntland or Pwenet? 03:33  |  Tamir Palestine 02/09/07
  404.   Try to understand (Lynn #402) 04:19  |  Tosefta 02/09/07
  405.