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Ehud Olmert and Mahmoud Abbas meeting in Jerusalem on Tuesday. (GPO)
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PM, Abbas discuss three major final status issues
By Aluf Benn, Barak Ravid and Avi Issacharoff, Haaretz Correspondents, and News Agencies
tags: Olmert, Abbas, Summit 

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas held one-on-one talks Tuesday on the three issues that are at the heart of a final status agreement - borders for a Palestinian state, the future of Jerusalem and the right of return of Palestinian refugees to Israel.

It was the first time the two men discussed these matters in depth, according to an Israeli official. The two aim to bring an "agreement of principles" to an upcoming international summit on Middle East peace, set to take place in November.

These core issues have to be discussed on the way to finding a diplomatic solution of two states for two peoples, an official in the Prime Minister's Office quoted Olmert as saying. He spoke on condition of anonymity because the two leaders spoke privately.
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David Baker, an official in the PMO, said ahead of the talks that they would center on "the development of Palestinian governing institutions, bolstering Abbas' government and issues concerning Israelis and Palestinians living side-by-side."

Olmert believes that the two leaders must meet at least once or twice more before handing over to aides who will hammer out the details of an agreement.

Aside from their face-to-face meeting, Olmert and Abbas were joined by their advisors to discuss security cooperation. Olmert thanked Abbas for the actions of the Palestinian security forces who rescued an Israel Defense Forces officer from an angry mob after he unintentionally strayed into Jenin on Monday.

Abbas headed into the talks warning that the planned conference would be pointless if it failed to address the core issues of Palestinian statehood - borders, refugees and Jerusalem.

"If there is a clear framework including final status issues, we will welcome this and go to the conference," Abbas told Voice of Palestine radio.

He pressed Israel to be more specific on how it plans to approach peace talks, saying Olmert's proposed declaration of principles would not suffice.

The PA chairman had also expressed concern Monday that the summit would be a "waste of time" if it limited itself to a "declaration of principles."

Hamas called the Abbas-Olmert meeting another attempt to isolate it.

"The meeting will end in complete failure. Such meetings can never achieve anything as long as the Israeli occupation continues to deny the rights of our people and continues its aggression against them," said Sami Abu Zuhri, a Hamas official.

Olmert and Abbas last met in the West Bank city of Jericho at the start of August, at which time the prime minister told Abbas that he would push for the establishment of a Palestinian state as "fast as possible."

Though it has been announced that the conference would be held in November, Abbas said he is still unsure about the timing, participants and agenda of the planned summit.

"There are no answers to these questions," he said after talking with United States Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice by telephone. "I spoke with Dr. Rice today and she has no answers either," he said.

Earlier Monday, a senior government official said the framework of discussions between Israel and the PA will be expanded to include the establishment of negotiating teams for each side, which will discuss the agreement of principles to be prepared ahead of the peace summit.

Meetings between Olmert and Abbas have so far been private, but the framework will now be expanded in order to "reach November with a logical product," the official said.

Olmert and Abbas are expected to meet again before the Rosh Hashanah holiday next month; sources in the Palestinian Authority said that in their next meeting, Olmert and Abbas will try to agree on as many issues as possible, in order to be able to present both their points of contention and agreement to Rice when she comes to the region in mid-September.

However Palestinian sources also said that while progress had been made, Olmert seemed interested only in a declaration of intent, while Abbas wanted to formulate a detailed document that would set out the Israeli position on the main issues.

The main development in the talks so far has been Olmert's acceding to the inclusion in the agreement of principles of the "core issues" - Jerusalem, permanent borders and refugees. This represents a reversal of his earlier position that raising these issues might lead to a breakdown in the negotiations.

The government official explained that Olmert has been persuaded to present the Palestinians with a political horizon, "so that Abbas will not lose the support of the Palestinian masses."

Referring to the appointment of Salam Fayad as Palestinian prime minister, the official said "two months ago a partner was born, and we must now talk to him about everything. We want to bring other countries into the process and reach more significant conclusions."

The source also said that "implementation will be subordinate to the road map," meaning that Israel will insist on the disbanding of terrorist organizations at the outset and the establishment of a Palestinian state in stages, rather than a final-status arrangement in one move. Thus it seems Olmert is willing to be flexible on a declarative level, while leaving "safety valves" on the road leading from principles to action.

The official said Olmert would not offer Abbas any new gestures involving an easing of restrictions on the Palestinians. The security establishment has still not completed its plans for removing road blocks and obstacles in the West Bank, which Olmert had pledged to Abbas more than two months ago.

Defense Minister Ehud Barak held a preliminary meeting last week and asked the army to present a detailed proposal that would include new operational roads. Barak is said to support temporary "flying roadblocks" in the West Bank that could replace permanent ones, thus easing passage for Palestinians while making it more difficult to carry out attacks. However he reportedly believes that moving to a new operational concept will require new deployment and training in the IDF, which will take time.

Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni and Fayad agreed at their meeting in Jerusalem Monday to strengthen civilian and economic ties between Israel and the Palestinian Authority. To this end, they resolved to establish committees for economics, social affairs and the environment. It was also suggested that meetings between mayors from each side be organized to promote joint projects.

The meeting between Livni and Fayad was their fourth since Fayad took office in June.

Livni told Fayad she appreciated the actions of the Palestinian security forces Monday, in assisting the Israeli officer who mistakenly entered Jenin.

Over the past few days, a special team has been set up in the Foreign Ministry to deal with preparations for the regional conference in November. The team will be headed by Foreign Minister Director General Aharon Abramovich, and a number of relevant department heads will also be included.

A senior government source noted that the team will prepare a number of position papers for Livni to submit to Olmert. The team will work mainly to prepare a plan of action to show the international community and the Arab world, in order to draft support for the regional conference and for subsequent talks between the Israelis and the Palestinians.

The team members are to prepare a list of steps Israel will take, and steps that Israel will ask the Arab world and the members of the Quartet to take. "The goal is to be ready with plans for the continuation of negotiations" following the summit, the official said.

Diplomatic activity is to be renewed next week with the end of the summer vacation. Assistant U.S. Secretary State for Near Eastern Affairs David Welch is to come to the region ahead of Rice's planned visit. The Quartet's Middle East envoy, Tony Blair, is also expected to visit the region soon
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  1.   Just start PEACE TALKS NOW PLEASE!!! 04:00  |  Moshe 28/08/07
  2.   Abbas is right - now please formulate a coherent strategy 04:00  |  Daniel Shapiro 28/08/07
  3.   IF YOU WANT PEACE MY FELLOW ARABS OR JEWS READ THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 04:03  |  ALI 28/08/07
  4.   No palestinian state while Hamas exists 04:07  |  Voice of Reason 28/08/07
  5.   Summit pointless if Abbas just sits there waiting for concessions 04:17  |  Sam 28/08/07
  6.   Keep them Honest Abbas 04:26  |  Danite 28/08/07
  7.   Nothing is going to happen without Hamas` co operation,everybody 04:46  |  lakshmi 28/08/07
  8.   The clear 04:52  |  Mark Lincoln 28/08/07
  9.   #5 Care to examine the form of these Israeli "concessions", Sam 04:56  |  Johnboy 28/08/07
  10.   umm are you in control of gaza? 05:01  |  vik 28/08/07
  11.   Pal state pointless If Hamas takes over,Hamas stronger than Fatah 05:04  |  Joseph E . 28/08/07
  12.   Sellout of Israel by US 05:06  |  ralphsrant1 28/08/07
  13.   Another Chance 05:18  |  Abe 28/08/07
  14.   Israel has no intention of peace, now or ever 05:18  |  Natallie Durson 28/08/07
  15.   Abbas and the Summit 05:25  |  Siva 28/08/07
  16.   Abbas-Fayyad have only support of fatah , not pals masses 05:49  |  Joseph E . 28/08/07
  17.   Pointless 05:50  |  Joseph 28/08/07
  18.   In Summary for the Summit... 05:50  |  Smadar 28/08/07
  19.   clear waste of time 06:12  |  arab 28/08/07
  20.   mark Lincoln talks foolishness 06:29  |  Danite 28/08/07
  21.   Abbas: Summit pointless if only about principles 06:38  |  Martin List,M.D. 28/08/07
  22.   #9 johnboy`s fantasy dialogue for his Punch & Judy show 06:47  |  CK Tan 28/08/07
  23.   Peace in forseeable future? 06:55  |  Otto Rand 28/08/07
  24.   # 19 arab ` work your BS on Smadar # 17" 07:02  |  Joseph E . 28/08/07
  25.   Abbas talking over Olmert`s head and straight to Bush 07:10  |  Johnboy 28/08/07
  26.   Same Old Delay Tactics 07:15  |  Moshe 28/08/07
  27.   pointless, now you knew it 07:15  |  Adnan 28/08/07
  28.   Abbas is right - No peace is possible 07:29  |  spyguy 28/08/07
  29.   #22 And a Great Big Yawn towards CK Tan 07:46  |  Johnboy 28/08/07
  30.   Abbas is right, and even Hamas is interested 08:04  |  Ivar 28/08/07
  31.   The problem is NOT what/how/when but it is OLMERT! 08:32  |  S 28/08/07
  32.   SO WHAT, ABBAS, ARE GOING TO CRY RIGHT NOW? 08:48  |  indrajaya 28/08/07
  33.   #29 johnboy`s yawn 09:24  |  CK Tan 28/08/07
  34.   Fake indrajaya 32 ALERT 09:52  |  indrajaya 28/08/07
  35.   HAMAS IS RIGHT, ABBAS WRONG 09:55  |  indrajaya 28/08/07
  36.   Two months ago an Uncle Tom installed a nodding dog 10:12  |  Clickfool 28/08/07
  37.   Although these meetings are but to try and manage current matters 10:18  |  Avihu 28/08/07
  38.   Reality collides with propaganda 10:19  |  Clickfool 28/08/07
  39.   Abbas is Pointless Himself 10:20  |  Wissam 28/08/07
  40.   Call for immediate Israeli elections 10:21  |  Avi 28/08/07
  41.   Kadima Gang is loosing Israel sovereignty 10:43  |  Joseph E . 28/08/07
  42.   # 39, WISSAM 11:41  |  indrajaya 28/08/07
  43.   I agree with our first four points, Avihu, but what do you mean 11:47  |  Tzion Blila 28/08/07
  44.   to # 39 WISSAN 13:24  |  indrajaya 28/08/07
  45.   Abbas can`t deliver,should be tried for treason against the 13:25  |  lakshmi 28/08/07
  46.   Talking 13:51  |  Mark Lincoln 28/08/07
  47.   # 39, FAKE INDRAJAYA 13:53  |  indrajaya 28/08/07
  48.   Tzion, all that I meant to add under my fifth point, and could 13:54  |  Avihu 28/08/07
  49.   # 44, FAKE INDRAJAYA 14:50  |  indrajaya 28/08/07
  50.   Summit shmummit....... 15:04  |  Esther 28/08/07
  51.   As long as the US is in trouble in Iraq, Olmert`s in trouble too 15:22  |  Michael 28/08/07
  52.   Why does PM Olmert meet with other holocaust deniers but not me? 15:25  |  David Irving 28/08/07
  53.   9Johnboy,well said,but while the Palestinians have right on their 15:26  |  lakshmi 28/08/07
  54.   lakshmi,why should people read your posts? 15:30  |  infidel 28/08/07
  55.   Abbas should prove that he is able ti stop terror! 15:30  |  Vittorio 28/08/07
  56.   #38 The "Greater" Israel is chopping up his territory 15:49  |  Alicia 28/08/07
  57.   End this bloody story 16:32  |  dan 28/08/07
  58.   This style of peace process is how Hamas was elected 16:50  |  A Bethlehemite 28/08/07
  59.   Falsity of Arab (aka Ismael) claims to Land of Israel 16:51  |  Reuven Ben-Daniel 28/08/07
  60.   to # 39 Wissan 16:53  |  indrajaya 28/08/07
  61.   lakshmi thinks she`s Che Guevara 17:08  |  Sam 28/08/07
  62.   Olmert - EXPERIENCE Your Peace Process: Move to Sderot ! 17:14  |  Linda Rivera 28/08/07
  63.   Won`t All the Naysayers Be Humiliated If Abbas Wins 17:19  |  Jane 28/08/07
  64.   Negotiations 17:22  |  Mordecai Ben Natan 28/08/07
  65.   A Palestinian state can be created without Hamas involvement 17:23  |  Maurice 28/08/07
  66.   "support of the masses" 17:24  |  B 28/08/07
  67.   What About Olcity, Mount Of Olives! 17:27  |  Ben 28/08/07
  68.   Bury them in paperwork 17:28  |  B 28/08/07
  69.   #7 lakshmi 17:32  |  B 28/08/07
  70.   54Infidel,reading my posts may clear the cobwebs from your brain! 17:32  |  lakshmi 28/08/07
  71.   lakshmi #53 17:40  |  B 28/08/07
  72.   Hamas Is correct they are isolated and left behind 17:45  |  Hausman 28/08/07
  73.   Call me crazy, but I think there will be a 2-state sol`n ASAP 17:46  |  Richard S 28/08/07
  74.   PEACE - Requires A Referendum 17:48  |  Double Click 28/08/07
  75.   response to # 7 Lakshmi 17:49  |  Shepherd 28/08/07
  76.   Meanwhile ... Shalit 17:52  |  Stephen 28/08/07
  77.   Tantalizing leftist Jews 17:57  |  Sam 28/08/07
  78.   Camp David redux; But without a credible Palestinian partner 17:57  |  David Turner 28/08/07
  79.   A Palestinian state will bring peace how?! 18:03  |  Hal 28/08/07
  80.   Joseph E., I always appreciate your posts 18:05  |  AV 28/08/07
  81.   Jerusalem Post says, Abbas today said there will be a referendum 18:06  |  Sam 28/08/07
  82.   67 Double Click - Referendum Required 18:07  |  Mark of Lewiston 28/08/07
  83.   63 Jane 18:11  |  Mark of Lewiston 28/08/07
  84.   Avihu, I understand the overwhelming majority 18:17  |  Fawaz 28/08/07
  85.   Olmert should be indicted, not giving away our land! 18:31  |  Chaim 28/08/07
  86.   To the zionists,nay sayers, skeptics alike,you have your heads 18:33  |  lakshmi 28/08/07
  87.   Lakshimi I know the answer to all issues 18:52  |  Rama 28/08/07
  88.   Forget peace, the Roadmap roadblock is still here 18:52  |  Tosefta 28/08/07
  89.   GREAT OFFER 18:54  |  M WAQAR 28/08/07
  90.   Abbas seems to be doing what needs to protect Palestinian rights 19:01  |  Jakecat3 28/08/07
  91.   PEACE NOW 19:06  |  M WAQAR 28/08/07
  92.   As#!.Moshe said"LONG LIVE PEACE" 19:13  |  Arik 28/08/07
  93.   lakshmi I`m not cruel.Here`s something that will make you happy 19:18  |  infidel 28/08/07
  94.   # 14 What is needed, Fatmah, is the arab ressettlement.... 19:18  |  Misha 28/08/07
  95.   4.....destroy hamas? 19:25  |  ravi 28/08/07
  96.   Minus Hamas 19:29  |  Fahmi Natour 28/08/07
  97.   Take 2: Peace without Hamas possible 19:45  |  Maurice 28/08/07
  98.   Tosefta 71, I suspect the Road Map roadblock is history 19:50  |  Michael 28/08/07
  99.   #14: not ethnic cleansing 19:52  |  Paul Freedman 28/08/07
  100.   Abbas-Fayyad equal Collaborators , staged Soldier rescue from Je 19:55  |  Joseph E . 28/08/07
  101.   For Alicia # 56 20:00  |  Clickfool 28/08/07
  102.   road blox down = terror attax up 20:02  |  uzi 28/08/07
  103.   45 lakshmi 20:03  |  palestinin in exile 28/08/07
  104.   Esther #50 20:06  |  GABE1 28/08/07
  105.   Peace, peace... 20:10  |  Webster 28/08/07
  106.   Jane #63 20:12  |  GABE1 28/08/07
  107.   Linda 62 Experience life under occupation, move to the West Bank 20:14  |  Michael 28/08/07
  108.   #65 lakshmi Pontificates Pompous Personal Proclamations 20:19  |  CK Tan 28/08/07
  109.   to ralphsrant1 #12 20:32  |  Steve Beikirch 28/08/07
  110.   I`m fed up of Abbas hopeless meetings 20:35  |  Tamir Palestine 28/08/07
  111.   # 73 Tosefta, and they also said that they wouldn`t be 20:51  |  Smadar 28/08/07
  112.   Johnboy # 29 Because (part 1) 20:52  |  Jeff Northridge 28/08/07
  113.   The Jews right to return 20:52  |  KUTW 28/08/07
  114.   peace with Israel 20:54  |  Joseph (Lebanese) 28/08/07
  115.   #95 Michael 20:57  |  B 28/08/07
  116.   Fatah terrorists attacking Israel from Gaza 21:00  |  KUTW 28/08/07
  117.   #73 - Reasons for a Super Majority - My Post #67 21:00  |  Double Click 28/08/07
  118.   Jane 21:01  |  Danite 28/08/07
  119.   Fawaz 21:04  |  Danite 28/08/07
  120.   ?disbanding of terrorist organizations? 21:06  |  KUTW 28/08/07
  121.   84Infidel,you have not given any dates for your sources,and in 21:12  |  lakshmi 28/08/07
  122.   Abbas and Olmert only? 21:12  |  Dag 28/08/07
  123.   "Olmert prepared to give up.." 21:15  |  Paul 28/08/07
  124.   86ravi & 68 shepherd, Ravi quite right & the latest development 21:17  |  lakshmi 28/08/07
  125.   4Voice of Unreason,you sound like a voice crying in the 21:19  |  lakshmi 28/08/07
  126.   Referendums and stuff - Mark of Lewiston 21:21  |  Mark Lincoln 28/08/07
  127.   Roadmap not flawed at all Tosefta 21:25  |  Mark Lincoln 28/08/07
  128.   what`s the point? 21:29  |  Bob 28/08/07
  129.   Johnboy # 29 Because (part 2) 21:30  |  Jeff Northridge 28/08/07
  130.   #91 Clickfool 21:30  |  Alicia 28/08/07
  131.   Fawaz about the core issues 21:48  |  Avihu 28/08/07
  132.   The Roadmap is still alive (Michael #89) 21:49  |  Tosefta 28/08/07
  133.   the next palestinian elections are comming someday.. 21:59  |  Kris 28/08/07
  134.   #14, Natalie, and what of the Jewish villages in Judea and Samara 22:17  |  David 28/08/07
  135.   what are all of you so tolerant of Olmert...why?!... 22:21  |  Allan Howard 28/08/07
  136.   Fawaz 22:24  |  Danite 28/08/07
  137.   mark of lewiston 22:27  |  Danite 28/08/07
  138.   lakshmi - 5 billion Muslims? 22:31  |  Polybios 28/08/07
  139.   Terminology (Smadar #97) 22:31  |  Tosefta 28/08/07
  140.   Kris - understanding mideast logic 22:36  |  Polybios 28/08/07
  141.   RUN THIS TALBACK ONE YEAR FROM NOW 22:37  |  PAUL HARRIS 28/08/07
  142.   #106 lakshmi 22:38  |  Guber 28/08/07
  143.   #89 michael and wishing for a white xmas 22:43  |  victor hardman 28/08/07
  144.   You might be right Tosefta 118 but... 22:57  |  Michael 28/08/07
  145.   Tosefta motives for the "Roadmap" 23:13  |  Mark Lincoln 28/08/07
  146.   Naw, they are the best and brightest - Tosefta 23:15  |  Mark Lincoln 28/08/07
  147.   Golly Danite! 23:17  |  Mark Lincoln 28/08/07
  148.   96Palestinian in Toronto,what`s your beef? Most Palestinians on 23:18  |  lakshmi 28/08/07
  149.   Abbas well knows that the final borders is Jordan 23:19  |  e.m 28/08/07
  150.   127Polybios,Hindemith,Hindernburg,they all look alike! 23:24  |  lakshmi 28/08/07
  151.   Tosefta - Reasonable Route vs Road Map 23:25  |  Mark Lincoln 28/08/07
  152.   lakshimi # 84 23:27  |  indrajaya 28/08/07
  153.   RUN THIS TALBACK ONE YEAR FROM NOW 23:27  |  Mark Lincoln 28/08/07
  154.   Palestinian in exile #103 23:34  |  Polybios 28/08/07
  155.   WHAT ISRAEL MUST DEMAND 23:36  |  Igor 28/08/07
  156.   Danite-If This Works, Crystal Baby! 23:46  |  Jane 28/08/07
  157.   isolated Hamas 23:53  |  Harry 28/08/07
  158.   Pacifying the "Great Satan"Only At Israel`s Danger 23:59  |  Yoram 28/08/07
  159.   A Big Problem 23:59  |  Salty 28/08/07
  160.   Same old tune 00:12  |  Mary 29/08/07
  161.   Michael In the UK #95 00:16  |  GABE1 29/08/07
  162.   Expect hamas violence as peace moves progress 00:17  |  Yitzhak 29/08/07
  163.   Danite To Fawaz #136 00:18  |  GABE ! 29/08/07
  164.   Abbas well knows that the final borders is Jordan 00:23  |  e.m 29/08/07
  165.   Guber, Polybios, & Lakshmi: World Population 00:57  |  Jeff Northridge 29/08/07
  166.   8# Mark Lincoln. A post with nothing but bad temper! 01:00  |  Akram Zekaria 29/08/07
  167.   Mambo Jumbo 01:10  |  Michael N 29/08/07
  168.   Final Status Issues 01:14  |  pace306 29/08/07
  169.   lakshmi 5 billions Muslims?Your men are true Viagra addicts 01:20  |  infidel 29/08/07
  170.   126 Mark Lincoln - Referenda 01:36  |  Mark of Lewiston 29/08/07
  171.   137 Danite 01:46  |  Mark of Lewiston 29/08/07
  172.   World Wisdom for Jeff Northridge #112 01:49  |  Barak Ravid 29/08/07
  173.   Guber # 142 Oops! I Overestimated the Buddhists 01:50  |  Jeff Northridge 29/08/07
  174.   The real problem will surface again. 02:03  |  Akram Zekaria 29/08/07
  175.   To Johnnyboy 02:26  |  John 29/08/07
  176.   #112 Jeff Northridge wrong, well, in everything 02:28  |  Johnboy 29/08/07
  177.   #112 Jeff is wrong in this bit too 02:32  |  Johnboy 29/08/07
  178.   8#Mark Lincoln. A post with nothing but only anger. 02:43  |  Akram Zekaria 29/08/07
  179.   Re 8 another M Lincoln delusional retort 03:21  |  Alan the real one 29/08/07
  180.   Re 32 Fake indrajaya alert 03:23  |  Alan the real one 29/08/07
  181.   Re 35 fake indrajaya alert 03:23  |  Alan the real one 29/08/07
  182.   Re 49 fake fake indrajaya alert 03:26  |  Alan the real one 29/08/07
  183.   Wicked Kadima wheeler dealers dictators manipulators 03:27  |  Joseph E . 29/08/07
  184.   Olmert Out Elections Now : He Lacks a Mandate 03:38  |  E.Lection 29/08/07
  185.   # 110 Tamir Palestine 03:47  |  Lynn 29/08/07
  186.   Abbas well knows that the final borders is Jordan 03:49  |  e.m 29/08/07
  187.   #155 03:53  |  Moshe 29/08/07
  188.   To Akram Zekaria.Mark Lincoln alwayse has been out of character 03:57  |  e.m 29/08/07
  189.   Haarretz censor ship 04:01  |  e.m 29/08/07
  190.   # 103 palestinin in exile ` not in exile but saved from misery ` 04:19  |  Joseph E . 29/08/07
  191.   Johnboy # 148 & 149 I Disagree 04:26  |  Jeff Northridge 29/08/07
  192.   2nd try,138,Polybios,Hindemith,Hindenburg,they all look alike! 04:27  |  lakshmi 29/08/07
  193.   Abbas well knows that the final borders is Jordan 05:15  |  e.m 29/08/07
  194.   Mark of Lewiston - Vox Populus 05:20  |  Mark Lincoln 29/08/07
  195.   Barak Ravid # 154 What World Wisdom? 05:23  |  Jeff Northridge 29/08/07
  196.   Most amusing 05:23  |  Mark Lincoln 29/08/07
  197.   lakshmi the delirious 05:23  |  Lynn 29/08/07
  198.   #158 johnboy reads only HALF of article 49 & jumps to CONCLUSION 05:28  |  CK Tan 29/08/07
  199.   #156 John tries the standard zionist sleight of hand 05:37  |  Johnboy 29/08/07
  200.   Wow, what a beautiful Slapstick show (Jeff N #170; re Johnboy) 05:44  |  Tosefta 29/08/07
  201.   #149 Oh, I understand that you DISAGREE, Jeff 05:49  |  Johnboy 29/08/07
  202.   #171 lakshmi lashes out AFTER she was caught LYING. Again! 06:02  |  CK Tan 29/08/07
  203.   #170 Jeff tries to think like me... 06:03  |  Johnboy 29/08/07
  204.   David Irving 06:09  |  Connie 29/08/07
  205.   #170 May as well point this out as well 06:20  |  Johnboy 29/08/07
  206.   #178 johnboy is UNAWARE he is CAUGHT in his own PRETZEL logic 06:28  |  CK Tan 29/08/07
  207.   Tosefta # 278 It`s Certainly Debatable 06:29  |  Jeff Northridge 29/08/07
  208.   Johnboy and entitlements 06:31  |  JES 29/08/07
  209.   #177 Let me quote the relevent bits of Art 49, CK Tan 06:34  |  Johnboy 29/08/07
  210.   #209 johnboy - and what do Article 1 and 2 say? 07:06  |  CK Tan 29/08/07
  211.   Johnboy,as usual trying to inculcate some knowledge & wisdom to 07:32  |  lakshmi 29/08/07
  212.   #148, lakshmi 07:35  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 29/08/07
  213.   169Infidel,you haven`t yet answered my questions about the dates 07:38  |  lakshmi 29/08/07
  214.   #200 Tosefta 07:46  |  Guber 29/08/07
  215.   #206 CK Tan needs to read more on Camp David 08:01  |  Johnboy 29/08/07
  216.   #208 JES makes a whopper of a mistake. 08:11  |  Johnboy 29/08/07
  217.   208JES & Johnboy,JES israel`s admission to the UN was conditional 08:13  |  lakshmi 29/08/07
  218.   lakshmi you have an admirer among Haaretz censors.He deleted 08:20  |  infidel 29/08/07
  219.   #208 And JES makes another whopper 08:21  |  Johnboy 29/08/07
  220.   #217 LACKEY HE DIDNT SAY WHEN !! 08:31  |  PAUL HARRIS 29/08/07
  221.   #208 And this one too, JES 08:32  |  Johnboy 29/08/07
  222.   191Howdy Jeff,the Arab argument was that it was not disputed terr 08:32  |  lakshmi 29/08/07
  223.   #216 JOHNBOYS ERROR REBOUNDS 08:34  |  PAUL HARRIS 29/08/07
  224.   212 CiporaJK,see my post 192 about the muslim population and re: 08:36  |  lakshmi 29/08/07
  225.   216Johnboy,question;I understand that the UN Resolutions are not 08:45  |  lakshmi 29/08/07
  226.   #208 Oh, and one more as well, JES 08:46  |  Johnboy 29/08/07
  227.   #210 CK Tan needs to read the ICRC commentaries 09:00  |  Johnboy 29/08/07
  228.   197Lynn,apparently CNN does! Nic Robertson interviews Khalid 09:08  |  lakshmi 29/08/07
  229.   #207 Jeff Northridge tries some more lame logic 09:20  |  Johnboy 29/08/07
  230.   Avihu and the "Period!" Negotiations Style 09:29  |  Hani 29/08/07
  231.   #218league of nations not a legal body ?? 09:55  |  victor hardman 29/08/07
  232.   GABE1 161 09:59  |  Michael 29/08/07
  233.   UN And League of Nations 10:22  |  Reuven Ben-Daniel 29/08/07
  234.   #218 It`s much more complicated than that, lakshmi 10:43  |  Johnboy 29/08/07
  235.   #220 Paul Harris hasn`t read the Mandate Text 11:33  |  Johnboy 29/08/07
  236.   130#Bravo em. That is the Jewish answer to the `final solution`. 13:45  |  Akram Zekaria 29/08/07
  237.   #228 Reuven is another who has never read the Mandate 14:01  |  Johnboy 29/08/07
  238.   #222 2nd try to reply, Lakshmi 14:13  |  Johnboy 29/08/07
  239.   193# em:JORDAN is their Palestine,what is left is Israel. 14:48  |  Akram Zekaria 29/08/07
  240.   #220 2nd try to reply to Paul Harris 14:54  |  Johnboy 29/08/07
  241.   Guber #214 18:06  |  Tosefta 29/08/07
  242.   237# Johnboy/228#Ruven. 08:03  |  Akram Zekaria 30/08/07
  243.   #242 Akram needs to read my post again 10:19  |  Johnboy 30/08/07
  244.   #242 You have the zionist version of the Mandate, Akram 10:28  |  Johnboy 30/08/07
  245.   244#Jonhyboy. Please read this well/What is the origin of Jordan? 23:19  |  Akram Zekaria 30/08/07
  246.   Border = Green Line 04:19  |  Neil 01/11/07
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