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Outposts and peace don't mix
By Haaretz Editorial

Aside from the publication date, it is hard to find any differences between the weekend reports of an emerging agreement on settlement outposts between Defense Minister Ehud Barak and settler representatives and those on the outposts agreement Barak reached with the Yesha Council in 1999 when he was prime minister and defense minister. Once again, talks are reportedly being held on how many outposts the settlers will evacuate voluntarily, in exchange for the state "laundering" other outposts. Judging by the previous round, the outposts slated for laundering will indeed be legalized, the settlers will vacate a few rusty shacks, and most of the outposts will remain in place. The defense minister's office is not embarrassed to say that Barak "is studying the issue and has not yet formulated a position."

The incentive for these talks is not a governmental commitment to enforcing the law in the West Bank, sparing the Israel Defense Forces from having to devote troops to defending land thieves and saving the public treasury tens of millions of shekels a year in expenses. Nor does the urgency stem from the previous government's promise, under the road map peace plan, to evacuate all outposts established after March 2001. The talks also have no connection to the report on the outposts that attorney Talia Sasson submitted to Ariel Sharon's government two and a half years ago. Just as with the nine houses that were evacuated in the Amona outpost in early 2006, here too, were it not for fear of a Peace Now petition to the High Court of Justice, it is very doubtful the authorities would have roused from their lengthy slumber.

According to the Makor Rishon newspaper, the motive for the emerging agreement is the defense minister's need to respond to Peace Now's petition, which demands that the state evacuate the Migron outpost - the largest illegal outpost in the territories. The Yesha Council was kind enough to "agree" to relocate the outpost after it became clear that there was no legal way to regularize the status of a community built almost entirely on private Palestinian land. But law-abiding nations do not wait until non-governmental organizations and the legal system force the authorities to enforce the law and abide by international agreements.

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Aside from the legal problem, the expansion of the settlements, particularly the outposts, clearly contradicts the prime minister's talk of peace. What significance could there possibly be to negotiations with the Palestinians on an agreement of principles for ending the occupation if the government is at once holding negotiations with the settlers on legalizing outposts in the very heart of the West Bank?

Barak, who also heads the Labor Party, has repeatedly declared that he learned the requisite lessons from his mistakes during his previous term as prime minister and defense minister. But his forgiving attitude toward Israeli lawbreakers in the territories shows he is determined to repeat this grave error.

Nevertheless, overall responsibility for the failure to implement the decision to evacuate the outposts rests with Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and the government as a whole. Every day the outposts remain in place is another day in which every member of the government is abusing his office.
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  1.   Giving OUR Land To The Arabs And Peace Don`t Mix 09:39  |  Yishai Kohen 27/08/07
  2.   If only the Jews of London would teach me hebrew! 09:41  |  Rowan Berkeley 27/08/07
  3.   Haaretz 09:42  |  Edifice 27/08/07
  4.   Well said, Haaretz 09:47  |  Clickfool 27/08/07
  5.   ALL SETTLERS DON`T MIX WITH PEACE 09:51  |  indrajaya 27/08/07
  6.   So there will be peace only when there are no Jews 09:54  |  Zev 27/08/07
  7.   IDF 4 Peace Must keep"Human Rights" as follows 10:04  |  sam 27/08/07
  8.   4th Geneva Convention 10:06  |  Giles Martin 27/08/07
  9.   All settlements are illegal, not just outposts 10:16  |  Kiki Susu 27/08/07
  10.   INDRAJAYA ALERT = FAKE # 5 10:20  |  indrajaya 27/08/07
  11.   For our enemies all is clear 10:22  |  ray 27/08/07
  12.   # 9, KIKI SUSU 10:36  |  indrajaya 27/08/07
  13.   Judea and Samaria are Israeli Territories. Israel is sovereign. 10:36  |  AV 27/08/07
  14.   # 8, GILES MARTIN 10:54  |  indrajaya 27/08/07
  15.   HERE`S THE PROBLEM 11:06  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 27/08/07
  16.   Playing dangerous games 11:16  |  Esther 27/08/07
  17.   Illegal settlements and peace don`t mix 11:23  |  Jens 27/08/07
  18.   A DESERT MIRAGE CALLED PEACE 11:33  |  PAUL HARRIS 27/08/07
  19.   Waiting to be Enlightened 11:35  |  The Northern Wind 27/08/07
  20.   Well said, Sam affirming Muslims freedom of worship within Israel 11:37  |  Ivar 27/08/07
  21.   How did this happen? 11:39  |  Esther 27/08/07
  22.   Giving them up won`t bring peace either ! 11:41  |  Sarah 27/08/07
  23.   Rowan Berkeley 11:42  |  Sam 27/08/07
  24.   #2 ASH TREE YOU ARE LEARNING THE WRONG LANGUAGE 11:43  |  PAUL HARRIS 27/08/07
  25.   For AV # 13 11:43  |  Clickfool 27/08/07
  26.   # 19, THE NORTHERN WIND 11:58  |  indrajaya 27/08/07
  27.   #8 giles an early lesson in law COURTS CAN BE WRONG !! 11:58  |  victor hardman 27/08/07
  28.   For Sarah # 22 12:02  |  Esther 27/08/07
  29.   Universal religious rights must respect animal rights as well 12:04  |  Ivar 27/08/07
  30.   Haaretz trying to butter up the goyim 12:05  |  Sam 27/08/07
  31.   to Roman (Holon) 12:34  |  indrajaya 27/08/07
  32.   Meanings of illegal 12:36  |  Murray 27/08/07
  33.   Fatah vs Hamas and Peace don`t mix 12:46  |  Joseph E . 27/08/07
  34.   Israeli settlements outside Green Line and peace don`t mix 13:01  |  John 27/08/07
  35.   Fake indrajaya 31 13:03  |  indrajaya 27/08/07
  36.   Meanwhile Editorial is manipulating to relief arabs extortions 13:03  |  Joseph E . 27/08/07
  37.   Every day that goes by 13:16  |  Tzfonit 27/08/07
  38.   HERE WE go again Arabs&useful idiots quoting UN resolutions & 13:20  |  PETER.SM 27/08/07
  39.   Land rights for Gay Whales 13:25  |  Blackwood 27/08/07
  40.   HAMAS and peace do NOT mix.They make no secret about it 13:29  |  PETER SM 27/08/07
  41.   Historically, Palestinian Muslims genocided Samaritans 13:37  |  AV 27/08/07
  42.   thanks for telling it like it is 13:37  |  rayman 27/08/07
  43.   #32 murray and confusion states the non laws 13:38  |  victor hardman 27/08/07
  44.   BLAME THE VICTIM AS USUAL 13:43  |  indrajaya 27/08/07
  45.   Victor Hardman correct: 1922 Mandate for Jewish state is basis 13:50  |  Hal 27/08/07
  46.   Outposts and peace... 14:03  |  Tony Price 27/08/07
  47.   Barak is failing again, noone in Israel is stopping him 14:07  |  Ernst 27/08/07
  48.   Cipora #15 14:44  |  GABE1 27/08/07
  49.   Hamas is part of the Ummah 14:45  |  indrajaya 27/08/07
  50.   FAKE INDRAJAYA # 44 14:46  |  indrajaya 27/08/07
  51.   15Cipora JK,the problem is that both`legal` and `illegal` are 14:50  |  lakshmi 27/08/07
  52.   Peace 15:01  |  Nadeem 27/08/07
  53.   Arab Moslems and the rest of the world do not mix 15:02  |  Beni 27/08/07
  54.   # 34 John of the Netherlands 15:42  |  Lynn 27/08/07
  55.   For Joseph E #36 16:40  |  Esther 27/08/07
  56.   Nor does arab terrorists 16:40  |  Dr David I. Gross 27/08/07
  57.   It`s really simple 16:46  |  A Bethlehemite 27/08/07
  58.   `goyim` is an INSULTING term 16:46  |  Bryan 27/08/07
  59.   @23 Sam 16:54  |  Rowan Berkeley 27/08/07
  60.   Israel makes itself look ridiculous 16:56  |  Shlomo from Tel-Aviv 27/08/07
  61.   Illegal occupation and peace also don`t mix 17:01  |  Stephen Murray 27/08/07
  62.   Tzfonit- 17:03  |  GABE1 27/08/07
  63.   Outposts and peace 17:04  |  Yosi 27/08/07
  64.   Preferance for peace 17:13  |  Choni Davidowitz 27/08/07
  65.   #59MURRAY AFTER ALL THESE YEARS STILL TROTS OUT THE SAME CLAPTRAP 17:16  |  PAUL HARRIS 27/08/07
  66.   Bethlehemite- "make way for negotiations for sovereign Pal state" 17:21  |  Sam 27/08/07
  67.   It is Israel`s Land 17:26  |  Brod 27/08/07
  68.   Rowan Berkeley 17:34  |  Sam 27/08/07
  69.   Tzfonit #37-Looney 17:40  |  GABE1 27/08/07
  70.   #1 Deal with it 17:41  |  Fed Up 27/08/07
  71.   settlements and peace 17:43  |  rose 27/08/07
  72.   Bryan- I generally use "non-Jews" 17:45  |  Sam 27/08/07
  73.   #58 bryan and an interesting post ?? 17:53  |  victor hardman 27/08/07
  74.   Shlomo from Tel Aviv 17:55  |  Sam 27/08/07
  75.   Bryan goyim just means non-Jews 17:59  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 27/08/07
  76.   Last week Barak 18:02  |  Mark Lincoln 27/08/07
  77.   Rowan Berkeley 18:05  |  critic 27/08/07
  78.   peace , peace , they say and get sudden destruction (the gosepls) 18:05  |  jlynch 27/08/07
  79.   # 57 Bethlehemite 18:10  |  Lynn 27/08/07
  80.   #13 AV -- Not all "territories" the same 18:30  |  Rick 27/08/07
  81.   According to Some Israel IS an Outpost 18:33  |  F.Antasy 27/08/07
  82.   Re Choni #64 18:37  |  Esther 27/08/07
  83.   Bryan - NO ITS NOT 18:38  |  Dr David I. Gross 27/08/07
  84.   Rowan Berkeley 18:43  |  Dr David I. Gross 27/08/07
  85.   2nd try,Kiki Susu&Indrajaya,ALL settlement are illegal! Do check 19:10  |  lakshmi 27/08/07
  86.   Tzfonit- 500,000 Jews in Caravans 19:24  |  peter 27/08/07
  87.   Tzfonit- 500,000 Jews in caravans 19:57  |  peter 27/08/07
  88.   Esther No 70 and All your other postings 20:32  |  Mary 27/08/07
  89.   It is time to hear from Bush 20:42  |  Tosefta 27/08/07
  90.   Walt and Mearsheimer are right 21:04  |  Don 27/08/07
  91.   Rick 21:19  |  Zionist 27/08/07
  92.   hey lakshmi 21:20  |  zionista 27/08/07
  93.   settlers 21:40  |  jorge grosz 27/08/07
  94.   We don`t really know the Israeli Government`s position 21:42  |  Smadar 27/08/07
  95.   John from WA - US motives are their own business 21:49  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 27/08/07
  96.   Our friend from Beit Lehem is correct. 22:04  |  Ibrahim 27/08/07
  97.   esther in Balestine #71 22:08  |  GABE1 27/08/07
  98.   Tzfonit aka Bracha and Language 22:19  |  GABE! 27/08/07
  99.   Ibrahim 22:23  |  Jasmine Murphy 27/08/07
  100.   #66, Sam - Make way means no more colonization 22:24  |  A Bethlehemite 27/08/07
  101.   TZFONIT MA CHERIE 22:25  |  GABE1 27/08/07
  102.   NADEEN and BEACE #52 22:30  |  GABE1 27/08/07
  103.   A Bethlehemite 22:44  |  Sam 27/08/07
  104.   Re the ranting GABE1 #97 22:45  |  Esther 27/08/07
  105.   Is Barak trying to undermine Olmert`s "peace process"? 22:48  |  Tosefta 27/08/07
  106.   Re Mary #88 23:06  |  Esther 27/08/07
  107.   Tosefta - Putting the Baraks on the peace wagon 23:06  |  Mark Lincoln 27/08/07
  108.   #92 Zionist 23:09  |  Rick 27/08/07
  109.   SECURITY AND ABANDONING THE OUTPOSTS DON`T MIX EITHER ! 23:14  |  Joel Stein 27/08/07
  110.   #103, Sam - Not rue 23:20  |  A Bethlehemite 27/08/07
  111.   @#104 re Esther The OINKMANIST 23:20  |  GABE1 27/08/07
  112.   Jasmine Murphy #99 23:26  |  GABE1 27/08/07
  113.   The dream never dies (Mark Lincoln #107) 23:28  |  Tosefta 27/08/07
  114.   #24 Paul Harris and the wrong language 23:37  |  hala 27/08/07
  115.   #71 rose peace before settlements 23:41  |  peter 27/08/07
  116.   #41 AV and Samaritans 23:44  |  hala 27/08/07
  117.   #108 Rick 23:55  |  peter 27/08/07
  118.   96Ibrahim,unwise to let those nasty settlers stay,they will 00:10  |  lakshmi 28/08/07
  119.   #41 AV and Samaritans 00:18  |  hala 28/08/07
  120.   Lakshmi 00:22  |  Silvienne 28/08/07
  121.   #89, Tosefta & Bush 00:25  |  Silvienne 28/08/07
  122.   #104, Esther and Rose 00:27  |  Silvienne 28/08/07
  123.   The dream never dies (Mark Lincoln #107) 00:33  |  Tosefta 28/08/07
  124.   The Bush voice (Silvienne #118) 00:38  |  Tosefta 28/08/07
  125.   Palestian Arab Muslims dont share genes with Jews and Samaritans 00:59  |  AV 28/08/07
  126.   Not a Difficult equation Tosefta 01:07  |  Mark Lincoln 28/08/07
  127.   EXISTENCE OF ISRAEL AND PEACE DON`T MIX ! 01:14  |  BOTH FATAH & HAMAS 28/08/07
  128.   @108 RICK 01:26  |  GABE! 28/08/07
  129.   The Three Faces of Eve 01:37  |  Mark of Lewiston 28/08/07
  130.   Arab Muslims are guilty of apartheid 02:14  |  AV 28/08/07
  131.   120Silvienne,greetings, successive israeli governments,no matter 02:21  |  lakshmi 28/08/07
  132.   100Bethlemhite,why settle for 22% ? In fact,during the signing 02:47  |  lakshmi 28/08/07
  133.   Esther @104 and Rose @71-3rd TRY 03:23  |  GABE1 28/08/07
  134.   Haaretz _WHY, WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!! 03:29  |  GABE 1 28/08/07
  135.   More lip service 03:36  |  Elias Khoury 28/08/07
  136.   Harris #65 04:04  |  jjvanka 28/08/07
  137.   "86 Peter Rabbit can`t learn new tricks 04:27  |  Zookeeper 28/08/07
  138.   Time enough to dismantle outposts after Hamas is destroyed 04:27  |  Voice of Reason 28/08/07
  139.   peter re tzfonit 04:35  |  Danite 28/08/07
  140.   Tosefta you are very confused about Bushspeak 05:09  |  Mark Lincoln 28/08/07
  141.   #117 Peter 05:09  |  Rick 28/08/07
  142.   Esther and peace equal Chamberlain misleading policy , 05:20  |  Joseph E . 28/08/07
  143.   #125 Gabe1 - try "International Law" 05:33  |  Rick 28/08/07
  144.   #129, Gabe 05:33  |  Silvienne 28/08/07
  145.   #135, Mark Lincoln 05:36  |  Silvienne 28/08/07
  146.   #137, Joseph E...close both eyes, then... 05:39  |  Silvienne 28/08/07
  147.   Outposts are not responsible for the war 05:41  |  Frank 28/08/07
  148.   Can the Palestinians manage a state??? 05:41  |  Ron 28/08/07
  149.   Making progress in the peace process 05:43  |  Frank 28/08/07
  150.   #131 Gabe1 05:48  |  Rick 28/08/07
  151.   You give Bush too much credit (Mark Lincoln #139) 05:58  |  Tosefta 28/08/07
  152.   to esther 06:13  |  rose 28/08/07
  153.   #151, Tosefta...indeed, doubleplus stupid... 06:16  |  Silvienne 28/08/07
  154.   To Rick re: #143 & #150 06:18  |  CHGODMK 28/08/07
  155.   Dr David #56 06:23  |  kiwi girl 28/08/07
  156.   Rick - so when does mexico get its land back? 06:55  |  Dr David I. Gross 28/08/07
  157.   lakshmi Nasty things 07:03  |  Dr David I. Gross 28/08/07
  158.   To Cipora Juliana Cohen 07:13  |  Otto Rand 28/08/07
  159.   For Joseph E #142 08:39  |  Esther 28/08/07
  160.   Actions should reflect words... 08:44  |  Dutch 28/08/07
  161.   # 146 Silvienne @ CT 09:00  |  Joseph E . 28/08/07
  162.   Outposts and Peace 09:08  |  Garry 28/08/07
  163.   #158, Otto Rand 09:36  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 28/08/07
  164.   Why was there war before the outposts? 11:17  |  fred 28/08/07
  165.   To all zionists who are jumping up & down,your ancestors had no 13:53  |  lakshmi 28/08/07
  166.   lakshmi 16:35  |  Dr David I.Gross 28/08/07
  167.   kiwi girl - Try 3 16:40  |  Dr David I. Gross 28/08/07
  168.   144 Silvienne 01:16  |  Rex 29/08/07
  169.   #168, Rex, sounding like a schoolboy 17:08  |  Silvienne 30/08/07
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