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PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas meeting Thursday with UN envoy to the Middle East Michael Williams in Ramallah. (Reuters)
Last update - 00:00 23/08/2007
Abbas denies West Bank-Gaza route included in land swap plan
By Akiva Eldar, Haaretz Correspondent, and the Associated Press
Tags: Mahmoud Abbas, safe passage 

The office of Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas on Thursday rejected a Haaretz report that Israel had proposed a route between the West Bank and Gaza Strip that would be part of a land swap in a bilateral agreement.

Israel proposed that safe passage for the Palestinians from the West Bank to Gaza be included in an exchange of territory in the framework of the agreement of principles now being formulated ahead of the upcoming regional summit.

"There is no secret channel and what was published about scenarios and expectations in some Israeli media is not true," said a statement from Abbas' office.
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It said Abbas has made his positions clear in meetings with Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and repeated to the media. "These talks have not reached a level of negotiations with details, as what was reported in Israeli newspapers."

Under the terms of the plan, the Palestinians would receive control of the route, but Israel would maintain sovereignty and it will only begin to operate after the Palestinian Authority, under its present leadership, reasserts control over the Gaza Strip.

Jerusalem believes that the move will help Abbas and Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayad garner public support in Gaza, which will see the Hamas government as an obstacle in renewing communication with the West Bank.

A senior official involved in talks with the Palestinians said that the agreement of principles will not set out the details of the land to be transfered to the Palestinians in exchange for Israel's settlement blocs, but will reflect as wide as possible a consensus on the core issues with some ambiguity. The details will be hammered out in negotiations after the summit.

It is believed that for the Palestinians, safe passage is worth more than its nominal territory, and therefore this will be a central component in a territorial package.

Sources close to Abbas say the PA chairman has removed his objection to the establishment of a state with temporary borders following the signing of the agreement of principles, but has conditioned his agreement on international assurances of a timetable for the end of negotiations on permanent borders.

However, Palestine Liberation Organization chief negotiator Saeb Erekat denied Thursday that Abbas would agree to declare statehood on provisional borders.

Internal discussions in Israel along with talks with the Palestinians are formulating the following positions:

  • Borders -- The starting point is the separation fence, without additional areas slated for the expansion of settlements. This leaves 92 percent of the area of the West Bank in Palestinian hands. The final area of the new state will be larger than the area east of the fence, but smaller than the area proposed in the Geneva Accord.

    Among themselves, Israeli officials talk about the need to begin applying the principles of the Evacuation-Compensation Law on West Bank settlers. Two bills have recently been proposed on this issue, one by Colette Avital (Labor) and Avshalom Vilan (Meretz), and the other by Amir Peretz and Yuli Tamir (Labor).


  • Jerusalem -- According to a government official, Israel would be willing to transfer to the Palestinians at an early stage a number of neighborhoods and refugee camps outside the fence and in the area of the Seam Line. At a later stage, it would transfer more or most of the Arab neighborhoods.

    The guiding principle is similar to that of the Clinton Plan: Jewish areas for Jews and Arab areas for Arabs. The "basin" of sacred sites in the Old City would be administered jointly by representatives of the three religions, each responsible for its own sites.


  • Refugees -- Israel would recognize Palestinian refugee suffering and accept indirectly some responsibility for the refugees from the 1948 war. Israel would also take part in an international project to rehabilitate refugees in Palestine, in areas Israel would transfer to the Palestinians and in the countries where they are now living.

    Israel is basing its position on the clause in the Arab peace plan noting that a solution to the refugee problem is predicated on Israel's consent.


    • While the U.S. did not plan the agenda of the summit ahead of time, it sees the agreement of principles as key to the summit's success and is encouraging the parties to move ahead on it before the summit. The Americans believe the agreement greatly improves the chances that Saudi Arabia will take part in the summit, and will back Abbas and Fayad politically and economically. To connect the regional summit to the Saudi and Arab initiatives, the Saudis and the Palestinians want the summit to relate to the Israel-Syrian issue as well.
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      1.   Surface as a Stop Gap 03:12  |  Mark of Lewiston 23/08/07
      2.   welcome....to fantasy island 03:15  |  henry 23/08/07
      3.   Israel proposes W. Bank-Gaza route in land swap 03:20  |  Martin List,M.D. 23/08/07
      4.   No Referendum, No Validity 03:50  |  dyinglikeflies 23/08/07
      5.   Palestinians Should Maintain Sovereinty over WB land in any trade 03:52  |  Mr. Knowitall 23/08/07
      6.   ONLY SOLUTION: GAZA UNDER EGYPT; PARTS OF W.BANK LINKED TO JORDAN 04:05  |  G. Marcus 23/08/07
      7.   Settlement Proposal II 04:07  |  Reid 23/08/07
      8.   Settlement Proposal III 04:19  |  Reid 23/08/07
      9.   Israel`s leaders just don`t get it 04:21  |  Jon 23/08/07
      10.   Settlement Proposal IV 04:28  |  Reid 23/08/07
      11.   `Safe passage from the West Bank to the Gaza Strip.` 04:31  |  Maureen Ann 23/08/07
      12.   Counter-claim 04:35  |  J K 23/08/07
      13.   Noone will be happy 04:36  |  Robert 23/08/07
      14.   Route to Gaza 04:46  |  Ron 23/08/07
      15.   # 6 DO u WANT EGYPT AND JORDAN TO BE OCCUPIERS? 04:52  |  MARCO 23/08/07
      16.   land swap 04:56  |  kiwi girl 23/08/07
      17.   Everybody Ignores the Elephant in the Living Room 05:03  |  Tod Zuckerman 23/08/07
      18.   a 2-state solution is inevitable. the aftermath, tho... 05:08  |  Richard S 23/08/07
      19.   Jordan is Palestine. 05:12  |  Chick 23/08/07
      20.   More Dangerous Proposals 05:13  |  Mark Hamil 23/08/07
      21.   What about arab and palestinian responsibility.................? 05:18  |  bernard ross 23/08/07
      22.   Walls 05:23  |  Lisen 23/08/07
      23.   fantasy world 2 05:24  |  paulo2006 23/08/07
      24.   Either marriage or divorce 05:27  |  A Bethlehemite 23/08/07
      25.   The starting point cannot be but UNSCR 242 and 338 05:29  |  Ben Alofs 23/08/07
      26.   Some interesting news 05:51  |  Tosefta 23/08/07
      27.   Why should we cut Israel in half? 05:51  |  Gili 23/08/07
      28.   # 8 Mr/Miss Reid`s classification system 05:58  |  Ben Alofs 23/08/07
      29.   REID 7,8 I will be interested as well 06:02  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 23/08/07
      30.   Whatever is the point... 06:04  |  Silvienne 23/08/07
      31.   Note to Israel: If it doesn`t hurt, you aren`t doing it right 06:07  |  Natallie Durson 23/08/07
      32.   This is all a SCAM - Shame on Israel 06:10  |  JDRoss 23/08/07
      33.   A deal predicated on Israel`s consent or coercion of free choice 06:12  |  Joseph E . 23/08/07
      34.   Don`t worry... 06:15  |  Joseph 23/08/07
      35.   #Reid, regarding Joseph`s tomb and the religious sites 06:22  |  Ben Alofs 23/08/07
      36.   Secret Peace Talks In Jordan? 06:26  |  ralphsrant1 23/08/07
      37.   #6,7 Reid, here`s my problem with this proposal 06:26  |  Johnboy 23/08/07
      38.   Olmert -Palestinian Deal 06:37  |  JD 23/08/07
      39.   west bank gaza route 06:41  |  marv 23/08/07
      40.   #27 Gili digs his heels in... 06:43  |  Johnboy 23/08/07
      41.   Wishful thinking 06:45  |  Peter 23/08/07
      42.   Arabs usually say they want to pick up 06:49  |  Joseph E . 23/08/07
      43.   A substantial development for the peace process... 06:58  |  Smadar 23/08/07
      44.   to kiwi girl 07:05  |  Peter 23/08/07
      45.   This enables Hamas to take over Judea Samaria 07:31  |  Lemmings Hotline 23/08/07
      46.   And Reality Says.... 07:32  |  Yosef 23/08/07
      47.   #37 Johnboy, exactly right 07:43  |  Ben Alofs 23/08/07
      48.   Land exchange of equal value and nature!!! 07:44  |  Rut Bat-Horin 23/08/07
      49.   #5 Mr. Knownothing - don`t worry 07:45  |  * BEN JABO 23/08/07
      50.   JD 07:45  |  Brad 23/08/07
      51.   #6 G. Marcus 07:49  |  * BEN JABO 23/08/07
      52.   "a timetable for the end of negotiations on permanent borders" 07:50  |  redmike 23/08/07
      53.   #30 No, not true Silvienne 07:51  |  Johnboy 23/08/07
      54.   #11 Maureen Ann 07:51  |  * BEN JABO 23/08/07
      55.   #15 Marco 07:54  |  * BEN JABO 23/08/07
      56.   #41 Peter - Toronto 08:00  |  * BEN JABO 23/08/07
      57.   #3 Martin List, M.D. 08:01  |  Ben Alofs 23/08/07
      58.   #35 Ben Alofs - I visited Mt. of Olives 08:19  |  * BEN JABO 23/08/07
      59.   I don`t understand why Arab villages in Israel 08:22  |  Yael 23/08/07
      60.   STOP THIS KIND OF PROVOCATION 08:28  |  indrajaya 23/08/07
      61.   The ISRAEL SUICIDE PLAN... 08:32  |  amir 23/08/07
      62.   Equitable & practical plan to sort out Hamas & end the occupation 08:37  |  Uzi 23/08/07
      63.   #37 - Yes, but.... 08:44  |  JES 23/08/07
      64.   Right 08:47  |  Colin Wright 23/08/07
      65.   #40 - No, Johnboy 08:47  |  JES 23/08/07
      66.   # 41 Peter @ Toronto / Canada 08:49  |  Joseph E . 23/08/07
      67.   The Doctor theory comes up trumps again! 08:50  |  Colin Wright 23/08/07
      68.   More Ha`aretz wishful thinking 08:53  |  JS 23/08/07
      69.   #37, #47 08:55  |  JES 23/08/07
      70.   Re #48 `Land Exchange` et al 08:56  |  Colin Wright 23/08/07
      71.   #54 Maybe something to do with them being ISRAELIS, Yael? 08:59  |  Johnboy 23/08/07
      72.   Fantasy land to #2 09:30  |  PARIS 23/08/07
      73.   If only Poland agreed to land corridor Germany-East Preusen in 39 09:33  |  Absolute Sweden 23/08/07
      74.   JK Counterclaims 09:35  |  Mark of Lewiston 23/08/07
      75.   Israeli gamble 09:39  |  Mark Katzman 23/08/07
      76.   Jewish deceitfullness 09:40  |  American 23/08/07
      77.   dyinglikeflies - Referendum Both Ways 09:45  |  Mark of Lewiston 23/08/07
      78.   Israel proposes W. Bank-Gaza route in land swap 09:45  |  MB 23/08/07
      79.   Dyan Stupidity all over AGAIN 10:03  |  Paul 23/08/07
      80.   Cynical political theatre from Israel 10:06  |  Clickfool 23/08/07
      81.   Slowly, slowly, blows the gale upon... 10:09  |  S 23/08/07
      82.   Gili - No Need to Cut the Country 10:18  |  Mark of Lewiston 23/08/07
      83.   Johnboy #37 10:30  |  TonyL 23/08/07
      84.   Reid - No Forced Resettlement Needed 10:30  |  Mark of Lewiston 23/08/07
      85.   west bank route 10:44  |  tom 23/08/07
      86.   international highway 10:44  |  ezekial 23/08/07
      87.   A connected issue-- 10:45  |  Giles Martin 23/08/07
      88.   #15: OCCUPIERS OF WHOM? 10:47  |  G. Marcus 23/08/07
      89.   Conspiration Theory 10:52  |  Joseph E . 23/08/07
      90.   Palestinians Should Say "NO" 10:55  |  MB 23/08/07
      91.   It is not now. 11:04  |  Vital 23/08/07
      92.   Damned stupid idea 11:06  |  Jasmine Murphy 23/08/07
      93.   How could it be a "Swap" if route not sovereign Pal land? 11:07  |  Hani 23/08/07
      94.   cutting deals... 11:44  |  ravi 23/08/07
      95.   Land swap 11:48  |  hassan 23/08/07
      96.   ravi let wisdom guide India in its deals with Moslem terrorists 11:56  |  PETER.SM 23/08/07
      97.   A many-laned-underground tunnel(s) would be safer 12:02  |  Alicia 23/08/07
      98.   96....peter sm.... uninformed 12:13  |  ravi 23/08/07
      99.   gazans into west bank 12:26  |  Joe 23/08/07
      100.   THE MORONS ARE IN CONTROL OF THE ASYLUM 12:28  |  PAUL HARRIS 23/08/07
      101.   @12, JK, current israeli government as many before 12:35  |  viktor 23/08/07
      102.   Criteria for rejectiion ?! 12:38  |  Esther 23/08/07
      103.   Most significant, and crucial Israeli achievements since 1948 12:41  |  Ivar 23/08/07
      104.   "WE WON OVER ZIONIST"...... 12:43  |  ILSupporter 23/08/07
      105.   Illegal settlements will still have to go 12:54  |  Jens 23/08/07
      106.   Johnboy,alaska not good example,since it is between 2 friendly 12:58  |  lakshmi 23/08/07
      107.   B.ALLOFS.glossing over the desecration of Joseph`s tomb& "crap" 13:09  |  PETERSM 23/08/07
      108.   @41, peter, crook olmert has no rights to talk in 13:11  |  viktor 23/08/07
      109.   The only solution for the word continuity of the land 13:19  |  Dr D 23/08/07
      110.   CFOOL " Israel knows" how do you know what Israel knows? 13:35  |  PETERSM 23/08/07
      111.   #105jens is going to spell out what is illegal 13:42  |  victor hardman 23/08/07
      112.   #25the dr does not know unscr242and338 only apply to jordan 13:46  |  victor hardman 23/08/07
      113.   Contradiction 13:57  |  Murray 23/08/07
      114.   A SILLY PROPOSAL!!! 14:04  |  Ian 23/08/07
      115.   Bantustan 14:08  |  Bart 23/08/07
      116.   Good News, But.... 14:08  |  Ibrahim 23/08/07
      117.   to ralphsrant1 14:12  |  Ralph 23/08/07
      118.   Something I dont understand.... 14:28  |  Tess 23/08/07
      119.   Haaretz, why this instead of the Hizbully admitting they lost? 14:28  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 23/08/07
      120.   Addendum #102 14:30  |  Esther 23/08/07
      121.   No peace until Jordan and Egypt take the Palis 14:38  |  The Equalizer 23/08/07
      122.   Is this Flappy Ears idea? 14:44  |  Chaim Gorenstein 23/08/07
      123.   Highway Death 14:45  |  Chaim Gorenstein 23/08/07
      124.   @112, viktor hardman, really it is around 15% 14:50  |  vladimir 23/08/07
      125.   Jews From Arab Lands 15:02  |  JG 23/08/07
      126.   Why should we combine the WB and Gaza 15:08  |  Avi 23/08/07
      127.   PRO PAL POSTERS FLATTER THEMSELVES 15:11  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 23/08/07
      128.   Dr D #109 How silly can you be? Gas stations?! 15:21  |  S 23/08/07
      129.   JG (#125) JEWS FROM ARAB LANDS 15:32  |  Gil 23/08/07
      130.   Jens and illegal settlements 15:36  |  Honi 23/08/07
      131.   For JG #125 15:38  |  Esther 23/08/07
      132.   whatever works 15:40  |  Paul Freedman 23/08/07
      133.   # 125 JG 15:41  |  Lynn 23/08/07
      134.   israel`s security 15:53  |  michael 23/08/07
      135.   Israel proposes W. Bank-Gaza route in land swap 16:01  |  Moise 23/08/07
      136.   Land swap, yes, but only lands of equal quality 16:01  |  Rina 23/08/07
      137.   WHY HAVEN`T WE READ ANYTHING ABOUT 16:05  |  David 23/08/07
      138.   # 80 C/Fool - "I hate these bizzare people" 16:08  |  17 23/08/07
      139.   ben alofs #25 and contiguity 16:12  |  scallywag 23/08/07
      140.   ben alofs #28 and the nanny of the palestinians 16:15  |  scallywag 23/08/07
      141.   ben alofs #35 question 16:16  |  scallywag 23/08/07
      142.   ben alofs #47 and a statement 16:19  |  scallywag 23/08/07
      143.   # 43 smadar 16:23  |  Lynn 23/08/07
      144.   The Mishal interview makes it clear that Hamas is standing firm 16:24  |  lakshmi 23/08/07
      145.   #5 16:25  |  Moshe 23/08/07
      146.   to Ben Alofs#35 16:25  |  Ilya 23/08/07
      147.   # 37 Johnboy 16:25  |  Lynn 23/08/07
      148.   # 40 Johnboy digging his heels in as well 16:27  |  Lynn 23/08/07
      149.   to Johnboy#37 16:39  |  Ilya 23/08/07
      150.   Will Olmert achieve his original plan? 16:54  |  Tosefta 23/08/07
      151.   #25 16:57  |  Moshe 23/08/07
      152.   #112 Big-OT in Belfast 2nd try 17:00  |  Labhras 23/08/07
      153.   How about a kinetic transfer programme as in Harry Potter 17:03  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 23/08/07
      154.   #121 The Equalizer in for disappoinment 17:03  |  Labhras 23/08/07
      155.   The new news: can we cross out the previous discussions? 17:07  |  S 23/08/07
      156.   Value of the safe passage Gaza - West Bank 17:13  |  Tosefta 23/08/07
      157.   Ibrahim-#-116- Good news but what? 17:13  |  Daniel Leopold 23/08/07
      158.   What about Jewish refugees from Arab countries?Refugees 17:14  |  Moshe 23/08/07
      159.   #93 It IS JUSt AN IDEA - STOP dreaming 17:16  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 23/08/07
      160.   #119 M in TA 17:19  |  Labhras 23/08/07
      161.   125 JG NO DOUNT/NEED TO BE MORE VOCAL 17:21  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 23/08/07
      162.   JG the Egyptian 17:21  |  Omar 23/08/07
      163.   Put The Connrecting Corridor Underground 17:28  |  Jeff Northridge 23/08/07
      164.   #53, Johnboy... 17:30  |  Silvienne 23/08/07
      165.   118 Tess - Translation Maybe 17:43  |  Mark of Lewiston 23/08/07
      166.   Omar 17:44  |  Brad 23/08/07
      167.   Ibrahim - Since Last Night 17:47  |  Mark of Lewiston 23/08/07
      168.   # 144 Margie in Tel Aviv -Kinetic Transfer 17:47  |  17 23/08/07
      169.   margie in tel aviv and kinetic transfer 17:48  |  scallywag 23/08/07
      170.   The Viable State: No Ticky No Laundy 17:49  |  Brad 23/08/07
      171.   # 152 Omar 17:54  |  Lynn 23/08/07
      172.   Ben Jabo - great post #58 17:56  |  Polybios 23/08/07
      173.   Exchange of territory 18:07  |  Ilana Harel 23/08/07
      174.   For those who don`t know how to ask 18:08  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 23/08/07
      175.   151 Margie in Tel Aviv 18:08  |  Mark of Lewiston 23/08/07
      176.   Jeff #160, still planning the road? 18:10  |  S 23/08/07
      177.   Palestinian refugees NOT parallel to Jewish ones 18:15  |  Omar 23/08/07
      178.   Iakshmi # 106 UNGAR 181 Is Dead 18:16  |  Jeff Northridge 23/08/07
      179.   I believe a swamp is wrong 18:18  |  KUTW 23/08/07
      180.   Abbas? declaration of yesterday 18:22  |  KUTW 23/08/07
      181.   Jeff Northridge in California 18:23  |  Omar 23/08/07
      182.   Omar 18:24  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 23/08/07
      183.   53- Johnboy 18:27  |  Ethel 23/08/07
      184.   Margie in Tel Aviv @151 18:29  |  GABE1 23/08/07
      185.   To those claiming expertise in history; have you ever heard of 18:36  |  S 23/08/07
      186.   Abbas should already start his job 18:36  |  KUTW 23/08/07
      187.   #160 "Put The Connecting Corridor Underground" 18:39  |  Murray of Montreal 23/08/07
      188.   The charade exposed 18:39  |  Michael N 23/08/07
      189.   JG #125 18:41  |  GABE1 23/08/07
      190.   to garner support in gaza 18:43  |  KUTW 23/08/07
      191.   Sorry, Johnboy, 53, I think you`re wrong 18:44  |  Murray 23/08/07
      192.   Settlers 18:47  |  Bryan 23/08/07
      193.   safe passage under pal control 18:52  |  KUTW 23/08/07
      194.   For "17" on "bizarre people" # 138 18:52  |  Clickfool 23/08/07
      195.   Hardman in bed-fast 19:14  |  Labhras 23/08/07
      196.   Land swap and demographics 19:16  |  Safa 23/08/07
      197.   To 133 Lyn 19:20  |  JG 23/08/07
      198.   Daniel 19:21  |  Ibrahim 23/08/07
      199.   #160 Jeff Northridge 19:26  |  Labhras 23/08/07
      200.   159 Omar 19:29  |  JG 23/08/07
      201.   Ambiguity ? 19:32  |  David 23/08/07
      202.   Abbas rejected 19:36  |  iletzter 23/08/07
      203.   Ibrahim, Jeff from Northridge and Moshie 19:42  |  Dave from Chicago 23/08/07
      204.   @44 Peter 19:49  |  Sam 23/08/07
      205.   #138 17 19:55  |  Labhras 23/08/07
      206.   169. Bryan: Arab settlers, you mean? 19:59  |  KUTW 23/08/07
      207.   Omar # 159 They Are Not Separate Issues 20:02  |  Jeff Northridge 23/08/07
      208.   A hudna 20:07  |  KUTW 23/08/07
      209.   160. Jeff Northridge: The Connrecting Corridor Underground 20:10  |  KUTW 23/08/07
      210.   Margie in TA give me a break 20:11  |  Omar 23/08/07
      211.   159 JG the Egyptian 20:15  |  Omar 23/08/07
      212.   Israel be careful what you do with God`s.... 20:22  |  Jeremiah 23/08/07
      213.   Jeff Northridge on refugees 20:23  |  Omar 23/08/07
      214.   Hani, 93, start from the Saudi Initiative 20:24  |  Jakecat3 23/08/07
      215.   Tess, 118, you`re right, and Taba could be the basis 20:27  |  Jakecat3 23/08/07
      216.   Omar, thankfully Jeff Northridge is irrellavent. 20:32  |  Ibrahim 23/08/07
      217.   Tosefta, 150, spot on 20:32  |  Jakecat3 23/08/07
      218.   # 193 C/Fool ..- I hate these bizzare people 20:40  |  17 23/08/07
      219.   Tosefta, 156, no way to Ariel, Kiryat Arba, and Maale Adumim 20:40  |  Jakecat3 23/08/07
      220.   # 204 Labhars 20:41  |  17 23/08/07
      221.   I`ll state the obvious 20:43  |  Dave from Chicago 23/08/07
      222.   Jeff, 163, You make peace sound so tempting 20:43  |  Jakecat3 23/08/07
      223.   Omar, 181, couldn`t have said it better myself 20:47  |  Jakecat3 23/08/07
      224.   Margie, 182, what of IDF military rule over Arab citizens... 20:52  |  Jakecat3 23/08/07
      225.   Ibrahim 20:53  |  Omar 23/08/07
      226.   # 6 G.Markus ONLY SOLUTION:GAZA UNDER EGYPT ETC,ETC... 20:53  |  Kath` 23/08/07
      227.   GET REAL 20:57  |  EREZ 23/08/07
      228.   The Free WB-Gaza Highway 20:59  |  Tzfonit 23/08/07
      229.   Safa # 173 What "Stolen" Land? 21:00  |  Jeff Northridge 23/08/07
      230.   I`ll state the obvious II 21:00  |  Dave from Chicago 23/08/07
      231.   # 12 J K Counter-claim. If I said it Once I`ll say Again.. 21:02  |  Kath` 23/08/07
      232.   Question for Jeremiah # 212 21:02  |  Clickfool 23/08/07
      233.   # 15 MARCO.Why not? They Occupied Them Before,Didn`t They?? 21:07  |  Kath` 23/08/07
      234.   Dave in Chicago, the one from Chicago 21:11  |  Omar 23/08/07
      235.   216Ibrahim& Omar,interesting to see the Palestinian perspective, 21:12  |  lakshmi 23/08/07
      236.   231. Kath 21:12  |  KUTW 23/08/07
      237.   For "17", who can`t read # 218 21:17  |  Clickfool 23/08/07
      238.   Grab a good thing when you see one (Jakecat3 #219) 21:19  |  Tosefta 23/08/07
      239.   Dave in Chicago, the one from Chicago II 21:23  |  Omar 23/08/07
      240.   remove settlers from west bank 21:28  |  roberta 23/08/07
      241.   # 230 & #221 Chicago Dave.I`ll tell you Truly.. 21:30  |  Kath` 23/08/07
      242.   Bryan 21:31  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 23/08/07
      243.   #219 21:33  |  JES 23/08/07
      244.   Omar # 181 Oops! 21:36  |  Jeff Northridge 23/08/07
      245.   #156 Tosefta, suggestion re: Ariel, Maale Adumim, Kiryat Arba 21:39  |  Smadar 23/08/07
      246.   Clickfool...how appropriate 21:39  |  Jeremiah 23/08/07
      247.   #238 ROBERTA THERE IS NO 1967 LINE 21:43  |  PAUL HARRIS 23/08/07
      248.   Omar 21:44  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 23/08/07
      249.   #153 LAB THE BRASS YOU ARE THE ONE THAT DOESNT READ 21:46  |  PAUL HARRIS 23/08/07
      250.   Jakecat you must be crazy 21:50  |  That Hannah 23/08/07
      251.   #229 Jeff Northridge re stolen Land 21:52  |  Labhras 23/08/07
      252.   #242 M IN TA 21:55  |  Labhras 23/08/07
      253.   Dave from Chicago doesn`t care for Arabs.. 21:57  |  Ibrahim 23/08/07
      254.   Jakecat 22:00  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 23/08/07
      255.   Another one for clickfool 22:00  |  Jeremiah 23/08/07
      256.   Jeff Northridge on claustrophobia 22:01  |  Omar 23/08/07
      257.   #246 Jeremiah 22:05  |  Labhras 23/08/07
      258.   #246 Jeremiah 22:07  |  Labhras 23/08/07
      259.   Omar #225 - Israeli vs foreign perspectives 22:09  |  dana 23/08/07
      260.   Omar and Kath 22:09  |  Dave from Chicago 23/08/07
      261.   Omar and Kath II 22:16  |  Dave from Chicago 23/08/07
      262.   Lakshmi, regarding Palestinians 22:22  |  Ibrahim 23/08/07
      263.   For Jeremiah # 246 22:22  |  Clickfool 23/08/07
      264.   229Howdy Jeff N.& Safa, Safa is right re:the illegality of settle 22:23  |  lakshmi 23/08/07
      265.   Tosefta #238 22:24  |  ODP 23/08/07
      266.   Omar and Kath III 22:26  |  Dave from Chicago 23/08/07
      267.   to #6 22:26  |  Mart 23/08/07
      268.   JEWISH RESIDENTS OF JUDEA AND SAMARIA SHOULD FORM THEIR OWN STATE 22:26  |  PalestiniansAreAMyth 23/08/07
      269.   Tosefta, 238 22:28  |  Jakecat3 23/08/07
      270.   #11 Moron-Ann on passages 22:29  |  Koos Emak 23/08/07
      271.   Ibrahim # 216 Irrelevancy 22:29  |  Jeff Northridge 23/08/07
      272.   Tosefta 238,Smadar 245 & Jakecat219,he is right,and the 22:32  |  lakshmi 23/08/07
      273.   More for Kath 22:32  |  Dave from Chicago 23/08/07
      274.   219, JES, was Tosefta`s suggestion was Palestinian sovereignty? 22:38  |  Jakecat3 23/08/07
      275.   Margie 119 and 174 to haaretz 22:41  |  peter 23/08/07
      276.   Smadar, 245, roads to Ariel, Kiryat Arba Palestinian sovereignty? 22:42  |  Jakecat3 23/08/07
      277.   Labhras (#199) Oo CLEANING UP IS IT 22:45  |  Gil 23/08/07
      278.   More for Omar 22:45  |  Dave from Chicago 23/08/07
      279.   Omar, 239, you`re right, the arrogance of power. 22:48  |  Jakecat3 23/08/07
      280.   to lakshmi#235 23:02  |  Ilya 23/08/07
      281.   OMAR, claustrophobia means fear of closed places 23:05  |  Alicia 23/08/07
      282.   # 236 KUTW. Well,Someone has to put This Accros! 23:09  |  Kath` 23/08/07
      283.   #146 to Ilya about Ben Alof 23:13  |  Jasmine Murphy 23/08/07
      284.   # 239 Omar re:Chicago Dave. 23:16  |  Kath` 23/08/07
      285.   238,243, JES, first response didn`t go through 23:25  |  Jakecat3 23/08/07
      286.   # 192 Bryan.re:So-called Settlers.and Palestinian Identity? 23:32  |  Kath` 23/08/07
      287.   Lakshmi the racist 23:32  |  ChanahS 23/08/07
      288.   JG Jews from Arab Land 23:39  |  From Kaddafi 23/08/07
      289.   Jakecat3 reality challenged 23:41  |  peter 23/08/07
      290.   Conspiracy theory regarding Slowman 23:42  |  Akiva Eldar 23/08/07
      291.   Kiwi Girl 23:44  |  Larry 23/08/07
      292.   # 219 Jakecat3 Miaow,..So,you have decided to SELL ISRAEL EH?.. 23:44  |  Kath` 23/08/07
      293.   238, Tosefta, Dennis Ross once said... 23:45  |  Jakecat3 23/08/07
      294.   None has any (Arab) legs to stand on 23:49  |  TonyL 23/08/07
      295.   #58 Ben Jabo 00:11  |  Ben Alofs 24/08/07
      296.   250- from Kaddafi 00:27  |  Tess 24/08/07
      297.   247Ilya,your long rambling post is entirely misplaced,the 00:28  |  lakshmi 24/08/07
      298.   Jeff Northridge on claustrophobia (2nd try) 00:31  |  Omar 24/08/07
      299.   Re 16 tit for tat 00:31  |  Alan the real one 24/08/07
      300.   Hear Ye,Hear Ye all you Talkbackers getting ahead of yourselves! 00:36  |  lakshmi 24/08/07
      301.   ISREAL?JEW bashers wonder about Isreali "attitudes" 00:38  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 24/08/07
      302.   #254 Chomping Channah S 00:39  |  Labhras 24/08/07
      303.   #266 DR BEN CANNOT GET TO REALITY 00:40  |  PAUL HARRIS 24/08/07
      304.   Re 35 Whos on first 00:40  |  Alan the real one 24/08/07
      305.   Dave in Chicago, and others too 00:40  |  Omar 24/08/07
      306.   Re 60 psst indy 00:44  |  Alan the real one 24/08/07
      307.   Ibrahim, you are not correct, but I see your point 00:45  |  Dave from Chicago 24/08/07
      308.   Re 80 there you are old PALy click 00:46  |  Alan tghe real one 24/08/07
      309.   Ibrahim II 00:48  |  Dave from Chicago 24/08/07
      310.   #288, Akiva Eldar, regarding Slowman... 00:49  |  Silvienne 24/08/07
      311.   # 252 Akiva Eldar.Conspiracy theory regading Slowman. 00:50  |  Kath` 24/08/07
      312.   #162&177 00:50  |  Moshe 24/08/07
      313.   Connecting roads (Smadar #245; ODP #263; Jakecat3 #238) 00:50  |  Tosefta 24/08/07
      314.   Re 232 Come now click 00:50  |  Alan the real one 24/08/07
      315.   haaretz is the best :) 00:51  |  No Lie 24/08/07
      316.   #294 Omar re Jeff Northridge 00:51  |  Labhras 24/08/07
      317.   #219, Hello Jakecat3 00:53  |  Silvienne 24/08/07
      318.   To Dana in Sunnyvale 00:53  |  Omar 24/08/07
      319.   280 Kath 00:55  |  KUTW 24/08/07
      320.   HAARETZ FIRE BURN OTHER NEWS SITES ! 00:56  |  The Only Truth 24/08/07
      321.   Re 237 Gads click 00:58  |  Alan the real one 24/08/07
      322.   #288 Akiva elder 01:02  |  tony 24/08/07
      323.   Ibrahim-# 198-the green line 01:05  |  Daniel Leopold 24/08/07
      324.   Jeff Northridge... 01:07  |  Ibrahim 24/08/07
      325.   ABBAS...ABBAS...ABBAS....HURRAY HURRAY HURRAY 01:10  |  JORDAN 24/08/07
      326.   where there were time list at those left ? 01:14  |  neverwhere 24/08/07
      327.   Another tall tale from the myth master Akiva Eldar 01:16  |  Jake 24/08/07
      328.   HAARETZ 01:17  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 24/08/07
      329.   make haaretz your homepage than we love you :) 01:18  |  serious 24/08/07
      330.   #162 01:19  |  Moshe 24/08/07
      331.   Simply Pathetic 01:24  |  Robert F. 24/08/07
      332.   TZFONIT/BRACHA and Z. S .A. 01:25  |  GABE 1 24/08/07
      333.   #295 01:25  |  Moshe 24/08/07
      334.   #100 Paul Harris 01:28  |  maoriboy 24/08/07
      335.   sorry guys, you no good tonight, bye , I love you 01:28  |  ? 24/08/07
      336.   #261, C Fool response to Jeremiah 01:29  |  Ben Bekhor 24/08/07
      337.   Land Swap 01:33  |  RT 24/08/07
      338.   Ibrahim 01:33  |  Danite 24/08/07
      339.   Hey Ibrahim "not fair" 01:36  |  Danite 24/08/07
      340.   LAK OF SENSE THAT IS LAKSHMI 01:42  |  GABE1 24/08/07
      341.   Return of the Land Bridge Joke 01:45  |  Efox 24/08/07
      342.   re: indrajaya 01:47  |  Efox 24/08/07
      343.   #125 JG 01:49  |  maoriboy 24/08/07
      344.   Omar # 256 No Sweat 01:49  |  Jeff Northridge 24/08/07
      345.   Abbas would also deny should terror attacks happens 01:52  |  Joseph E . 24/08/07
      346.   Ibrahim,260 & Omar 296,once more about Howdy Jeff,some of us 01:52  |  lakshmi 24/08/07
      347.   290, Kath, I see you prefer settlements to peace 01:55  |  Jakecat3 24/08/07
      348.   The Palestinians so not seem welcome in Arab countries 01:58  |  J.J. Doring 24/08/07
      349.   LAKSHMI!!! I saw the video of the wedding... 02:02  |  Lynn 24/08/07
      350.   It`s all about Olmert trying to stay out of jail. For lovers of . 02:08  |  Chaim 24/08/07
      351.   # 197 JG 02:14  |  Lynn 24/08/07
      352.   Labhras # 251 Precisely 02:28  |  Jeff Northridge 24/08/07
      353.   243JES,the point that 219Jake is making is what others are also 02:45  |  lakshmi 24/08/07
      354.   #260 02:55  |  Moshe