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del.icio.us Digg It!  new Last update - 16:44 21/08/2007 Hamas the cripple, Gaza the doomed By Bradley Burston Hamas may well find a way to survive the current crisis. So may Gaza. But both are crippled now, and at least one may stay that way. The people of the Gaza Strip are now paying the price for the entire spectrum of Middle East policies, the refusal on principle of Israel and Hamas to recognize one another, the efforts by both Washington and Fatah to freeze out Hamas in order to shore up Mahmoud Abbas in the West Bank, the encouragement by Tehran and other Islamist parties of Qassam fire on Sderot. A short while ago, who would have guessed that if electricity were cut off to the 1.5 million residents of the Strip, it would be the European Union that was responsible? Who in their right mind would have imagined that the EU, seeking to head off the possibility that Hamas might tax and thus benefit from part of the aid funds earmarked for electricity, might abruptly plunge Gazans into a new prolonged stretch of darkness, unrelieved heat, and food shortages due to lack of refrigeration? But if Gaza has been cut off from the world, rendered blind, mute, immobile, Hamas is fast becoming paralyzed as well. A year and a half after its election victory, Hamas has virtually run out of room to maneuver. On Monday, Israeli forces fired a rocket into a car in Gaza, killing local Hamas military commander Mohammed Abu Arab and five of his troops, as they returned from what media reports said was a mortar attack against Israel. The response from Izz el-Deen al-Qassam, the Hamas military wing, was swift in coming, and caustic, but confined to the verbal. Terming the rocket strike an "ugly Zionist massacre," an Izz el-Deen al-Qassam spokesman said, "If the Zionist enemy fears the possibility of a response with rockets then they should know that we have even more dangerous weapons." In the past, the Hamas military wing has often demonstrated the truth of that statement. As early as 1996, Izz al-Deen, working in concert with the Islamic Jihad, killed 60 people in four suicide bombings in the space of nine days. But Hamas' rise to power, and its growing need to be taken seriously as a legitimate political force rather than an agency of terrorism, have relegated the military arm to a disgruntled, and, for the moment at least, muzzled branch within the larger movement. Even hardline Hamas leaders in Damascus appear to be barring the military wing from a major escalation in Gaza. In this sense, it may be said that, from the military standpoint with respect to the Gaza front, Hamas has become Israel, its hands effectively tied by a wide range of political and diplomatic considerations. The first difference, of course, is that Israel's economy continues to boom, undeterred by war last summer in Lebanon, unaffected by threats of war this summer. The second difference is that Israel has found the perfect foil in Hamas, which, if it fails to act against Israeli attacks, is viewed at home as weak, and if it decides to attack - whether by rocket, mortar, sub-machinegun ambush or suicide bombing - is viewed abroad as terrorist. Hamas' war against Fatah will not soon be forgotten in the Muslim world, and, in many quarters, will remain unforgiven. Meanwhile, the Olmert administration, the Bush White House, Western Europe, Eastern Europe, urged on by Abbas, continue to prove themselves willing to sacrifice Gaza for the sake of disabling Hamas. The reason that they have been able to do so goes to the heart of the plight of the people of Gaza, and the ever-increasing ease with which the world ignores it. At one time, the suffering of the people of Gaza was of critical importance on the international agenda. Every Israeli incursion, even every power outage, was duly reported, often reaching the UN Security Council. Now, however, the world - much of the world media included - has turned its back on Gaza, even as Gaza sinks into new depths of distress. Call it, if you like, the "Bangladesh Effect." It is the inborn inability of human beings to comprehend and respond to catastrophe affecting large numbers of far-away people for a prolonged period of time - and therefore to cease to care. The turning of a blind eye is, of course, made that much easier when the media finds it difficult or lethally dangerous to actually observe the situation on the ground. In the case of Bangladesh, the deaths of tens of thousands over years of flood and famine and cyclone have inured the world to its suffering. It may be said that some in the Western world dismiss what appears to be serial tragedy as somehow deterministic, that the people of many a Third World nation are doomed to disaster, that they, in a sense, are born to die. In the case of Gaza, there is an additional element, the sense that the Palestinians are able but unwilling to help themselves out of a terrible situation. It is a sense that is as simplistic and dismissive and, therefore, as wrongheaded, as citing the Israeli occupation for all of Gaza's ills, past and future. Still, this is the issue with which Hamas must come to terms, and soon. The parameters of the conflict are changing. Hamas can no longer depend on grass-roots anger against Israel to deflect ire against Hamas. Even here in the Holy Land, anger and vengeance and the culture of blaming the other guy, have their limits. When Hamas was formed in 1987, it pledged to eradicate the occupation and, in due course, the State of Israel. Hamas is in charge now, and the lights are off. Hamas is in charge now, and it is time to work on eradicating poverty, restoring health care, and attending to education. Israel has responsibilities to participate in the effort, but as long as Hamas cannot bring itself to rescind its pledge to erase the Jewish state by force, the Jewish state can convince the world that it need do nothing. There has perhaps never been a coalition the likes of which opposes Hamas at this point. Perhaps even more than it is a prison, Gaza is a hostage situation. Gaza is the hostage of three enemies, Israel, Fatah, and Hamas. But for hostages to be freed, someone has to care about them. The goal of Hamas was to end the occupation and eradicate Israel. But sell that, at this point to the people you used to feed, clothe, educate. Sell that to the people who may be losing - may have already lost - an entire generation. Hamas is in charge now. It must start acting like it is. Now. _________________ Recent blogs: The Right of Return of the Jewish People What self-hating Jews can teach Muslims Why Israel was created, why it still exists Back the boycott, kill the symphony __________________ The guiding principles of the talkback forum for this article will be mutual respect and openness to dialogue. Participants, even if they rule out, dismiss or oppose coexistence, must, within the confines of this forum, practice it. Censorship will be unapologetic. Political orientation will have absolutely no bearing on whether a comment is posted or rejected. The following will be grounds for deletion: 1. Racist remarks, as well as slurs on the basis of religion, ethnicity and gender. 2. 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Poverty report A study shows the number of poor asking for food has doubled in the last 5 years.   1.   HAMAS WON`T GO DOWN IN HISTORY LONELY 11:03  |  indrajaya 21/08/07   2.   Gaza and Oslo 11:06  |  indrajaya 21/08/07   3.   Shame on Some Israelis 11:14  |  Walid 21/08/07   4.   PEOPLE ARE SICK OF TERROR!!! 11:24  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/08/07   5.   Bradley is too quick with the epitaph 11:24  |  Natallie Durson 21/08/07   6.   NOT TRUE 11:29  |  indrajaya 21/08/07   7.   to #1 11:40  |  Lavy 21/08/07   8.   #5, Durson 11:42  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/08/07   9.   HAMAS the racist Islamists want Israel doomed,openly 11:45  |  PETER.SM 21/08/07   10.   Walis - When you play with fire you can get burned 11:46  |  Zev 21/08/07   11.   Natallie - back from Peru already? 11:56  |  Joe Sittizen 21/08/07   12.   # 4 Kohn.. And now for the rest of the story 12:00  |  Natallie Durson 21/08/07   13.   Responsibility 12:05  |  Murray 21/08/07   14.   # 8 Kohn 12:09  |  Natallie Durson 21/08/07   15.   MURDERING TERRORIST ISLAM/HAMAS STRATEGY IS DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL 12:24  |  Bill 21/08/07   16.   This sits rather badly with the OTHER article in haaretz 12:25  |  Johnboy 21/08/07   17.   SOCIOPATHIC DISORDER MUCH MORE SEVERE THAN CRIPPLE 12:28  |  PSYCHOLOGIST 21/08/07   18.   Hamas is doomed 12:30  |  Jasmine Murphy 21/08/07   19.   Shame on Walid # 3 12:32  |  ChanahS 21/08/07   20.   Natalie Durson`s response, #5 12:33  |  sandra chitayat 21/08/07   21.   PETER SM Embarrassing Australia again 12:34  |  Joe B. 21/08/07   22.   Shame of Walid (and Indrajaya) con`t 12:36  |  ChanahS 21/08/07   23.   Part 2. The gazan dilemna. 12:37  |  sandra chitayat 21/08/07   24.   # 7, LAVY (2nd TRY, EDITED) 12:38  |  indrajaya 21/08/07   25.   #12, Durson 12:41  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/08/07   26.   NDURSON & numbers.How many Israeli civillians do ArabsTRY to kill 12:43  |  PETERSM 21/08/07   27.   Duh!son on the losing track # 12 12:43  |  ChanahS 21/08/07   28.   Realisty could have been different, so different, if only Hamas 12:47  |  Avihu 21/08/07   29.   Murray # 13 12:50  |  ChanahS 21/08/07   30.   Shame on SOME israelis? Walid #3 13:05  |  dana 21/08/07   31.   This piece is not accurate,Hamas continues to gain in strength, 13:11  |  lakshmi 21/08/07   32.   Blaming the people of Gaza ... 13:17  |  Pegasus 21/08/07   33.   Burston 13:46  |  j10 21/08/07   34.   Hamas is done,kept alive by Israel and Fatah 13:48  |  Ronnie Wolman 21/08/07   35.   #32pagasus is flying in the wrong direction 13:54  |  victor hardman 21/08/07   36.   Ronnie Wolman 13:59  |  Walid 21/08/07   37.   Lakshmi continues to deny 14:04  |  Angelique 21/08/07   38.   Dana 14:06  |  Walid 21/08/07   39.   Walid,the Palestinians Chose Hamas 14:16  |  Ronnie Wolman 21/08/07   40.   Pegasus # 32 14:21  |  ChanahS 21/08/07   41.   JOE B .the consequences of the vote is Hamas committed to war 14:25  |  PETER SM 21/08/07   42.   ChanahS 14:30  |  Walid 21/08/07   43.   Zev 14:37  |  Walid 21/08/07   44.   I think there is too much talk about Hamas and too little about 14:39  |  David Hacohen 21/08/07   45.   this ain`t no Altalena 14:40  |  Nizo the Palestinian 21/08/07   46.   Bradley Burston the Cutie 14:43  |  Absolute Sweden 21/08/07   47.   GAZA HAS NOT SUFFERED A NATURAL DISASTER 14:45  |  Ian 21/08/07   48.   To Indrajaya 14:51  |  Uri 21/08/07   49.   THE WORLD HHAS TIRED OF ISLAMIC TERROR 14:53  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 21/08/07   50.   Pressure pressure pressure 14:56  |  JonathanInTelAviv 21/08/07   51.   Iran Is Putting Hamas And Gaza In This Position 14:57  |  dyinglikeflies 21/08/07   52.   DEFENDERS OF BARBARIANS 15:04  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 21/08/07   53.   Natallie Durson 15:14  |  Softwalker 21/08/07   54.   Zev 15:16  |  Walid 21/08/07   55.   Murray 15:23  |  Softwalker 21/08/07   56.   #41 If all the arabs would abide by their Koran 15:23  |  John Allen 21/08/07   57.   Walid #3 15:42  |  Avrum 21/08/07   58.   dana #30 to Walid 15:44  |  S 21/08/07   59.   Feed the hand that bites it? 15:46  |  Deborah 21/08/07   60.   #1 15:48  |  Deborah 21/08/07   61.   Jon Feigenbaum 15:58  |  Walid 21/08/07   62.   Well There Is Definitely A Chokehold On... 16:02  |  Yosemite 21/08/07   63.   #12 Natalie 16:03  |  Deborah 21/08/07   64.   Bradley back from a Hollywood vacation 16:13  |  Tosefta 21/08/07   65.   Walid #57 - Olmert gave them the money that was being held . 16:14  |  Zev 21/08/07   66.   Paying for bad causes and choices 16:15  |  B 21/08/07   67.   Soft walker @53 can you post some details please 16:18  |  PETER SM 21/08/07   68.   S 16:18  |  Walid 21/08/07   69.   A Huge Difference! 16:24  |  An Arab Neighbor 21/08/07   70.   Indrajaya # 1 16:26  |  ChanahS 21/08/07   71.   Walid 16:28  |  Jasmine Murphy 21/08/07   72.   The Bangladesh and Chameleon Symdromes 16:29  |  Tzfonit 21/08/07   73.   To John Allen # 56 - Read the Verse 9.11 16:35  |  Dagma 21/08/07   74.   THE TRUE NATIVES OF THE LAND! 16:35  |  Mark 21/08/07   75.   Walid I wil repeat myself so that you understand 16:36  |  ChanahS 21/08/07   76.   Mark (sic) you tried this yesterday 16:42  |  ChanahS 21/08/07   77.   shame on arabist apologists 16:43  |  peter 21/08/07   78.   Avihu # 28 is right. All of this could have been solved if, 16:46  |  Albert 21/08/07   79.   Walid Dana is disappointed, please damn us all. 16:46  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 21/08/07   80.   Dana #90 One does wonder 16:48  |  Tzfonit 21/08/07   81.   Hamas is useless in government. 16:51  |  Charles Smyth 21/08/07   82.   Walid`s Jew envy 17:00  |  peter 21/08/07   83.   To ChanahS@75 17:03  |  MeToo 21/08/07   84.   Dir Balak Walid... 17:07  |  Tzfonit 21/08/07   85.   excellent article - problem is Gaza Palestinians are isolated 17:09  |  Smadar 21/08/07   86.   # 3 shame on you 17:12  |  Abu Rashid 21/08/07   87.   Walid # 68 17:17  |  ChanahS 21/08/07   88.   Israel and Gaza 17:27  |  Murray 21/08/07   89.   Arab neighbor # 69 17:33  |  ChanahS 21/08/07   90.   ChanaS re Walid 17:33  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 21/08/07   91.   Walid 17:33  |  S 21/08/07   92.   The result of keeping Hamas out 17:35  |  Tosefta 21/08/07   93.   May Hamas continue to rot 17:37  |  Gina 21/08/07   94.   Avrum 17:37  |  Walid 21/08/07   95.   #12 Durson 17:38  |  Yonatan 21/08/07   96.   Ronnie Wolman 17:40  |  Walid 21/08/07   97.   Channah on Hamas 17:40  |  Omran 21/08/07   98.   Natallie Durson -- Should you tell the Gazans to duck and cover? 17:41  |  Gina 21/08/07   99.   Murray Arabs created `Gaza` 17:42  |  Jasmine Murphy 21/08/07   100.   me too`s gandor 17:43  |  ChanahS 21/08/07   101.   Zev 17:47  |  Walid 21/08/07   102.   To Tosefta, #92- You Just on`t get It 17:47  |  dyinglikeflies 21/08/07   103.   Walid at it again 17:49  |  ChanahS 21/08/07   104.   #74 Mark - the fleeing Gazans 17:56  |  Yonatan 21/08/07   105.   #88 MURRAY WITH NO HISTORY AND CRAP 17:58  |  paul harris 21/08/07   106.   Omran on Warsaw Ghetto 17:58  |  Chanahs 21/08/07   107.   To PSYCHOLOGIST # 17 17:58  |  Dagma 21/08/07   108.   Omran 18:02  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 21/08/07   109.   Tzfonit about Dana 18:03  |  Walid 21/08/07   110.   Not so easy, Jasmine Murphy 18:08  |  Murray 21/08/07   111.   True, Tosefta (#92) really doesn`t get it 18:10  |  Yonatan 21/08/07   112.   Sorry, Mr. Harris 18:12  |  Murray 21/08/07   113.   ChanahS 18:17  |  Walid 21/08/07   114.   Actually, what`s wrong with collective punishment? 18:19  |  Yonatan 21/08/07   115.   S 18:19  |  Walid 21/08/07   116.   Killers and grifters. 18:21  |  Charles Smyth 21/08/07   117.   Translation?! 18:24  |  Michael N 21/08/07   118.   Murray, is this a welfare planet for Palestinians only? 18:25  |  Jasmine Murphy 21/08/07   119.   ChanahS 18:30  |  Walid 21/08/07   120.   Walid -- Still apologizing for terrorists 18:37  |  Gina 21/08/07   121.   Almost Right 18:37  |  Ron 21/08/07   122.   To evolution-challenged people (Dyinglikeflies #102; Yonatan#111) 18:39  |  Tosefta 21/08/07   123.   The Legacy of Israel`s Disengagement 18:40  |  Natasha 21/08/07   124.   Evading responsibility, Jasmine Murphy 18:44  |  Murray 21/08/07   125.   #110 Murray 18:51  |  Sarah 21/08/07   126.   #92 Tosefta, somewhat agree with your arguments and I have 18:55  |  Smadar 21/08/07   127.   85Smadar,you are blaming the victim! You make it sound like 19:00  |  lakshmi 21/08/07   128.   Omran # 97 Hamas` Hopes And Dreams 19:00  |  Jeff Northridge 21/08/07   129.   32Pegasus,well said&Angelique(37) do read his post! 19:02  |  lakshmi 21/08/07   130.   Murray, how personal you are 19:05  |  Jasmine Murphy 21/08/07   131.   Go on Tosefta 19:09  |  Angelique 21/08/07   132.   The hudna falsehood (Yonatan #111) 19:16  |  Tosefta 21/08/07   133.   #12 Fatmah, there are no civilian concept in the arab world... 19:19  |  Misha 21/08/07   134.   Tosefta 122- "Evolution"? Hah! 19:25  |  dyinglikeflies 21/08/07   135.   # 8 An idiotic conclusion.... 19:28  |  Misha 21/08/07   136.   #3 19:36  |  Moshe 21/08/07   137.   HOW WAS IT THAT SAID THAT HAMAS IS A CLEAN ORGANIZATION 19:43  |  Gil 21/08/07   138.   #5 19:47  |  Moshe 21/08/07   139.   A few mistakes (Smadar #126) 19:50  |  Tosefta 21/08/07   140.   Durson what a mind change from a few days ago 19:58  |  Lynn 21/08/07   141.   Northridge - Hopes and dreams 19:59  |  Omran 21/08/07   142.   Wouldn`t help the blind (Angelique #131) 20:01  |  Tosefta 21/08/07   143.   Just a Perception of Truth (Versified for all its worth) 20:04  |  Kath` 21/08/07   144.   To Jeff Northbridge # 128 20:06  |  Dagma 21/08/07   145.   Moshe 20:11  |  Walid 21/08/07   146.   Gina 20:13  |  Walid 21/08/07   147.   No Walid, you don`t get a free pass on this one 20:32  |  Jacob Blues 21/08/07   148.   Hamas is not in the Business of Governing 20:34  |  Josh 21/08/07   149.   I`m not blind Tosefta and neither are you trustworthy 20:40  |  Angelique 21/08/07   150.   Walid 20:44  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 21/08/07   151.   To INDRAJAYA in Indonesia ref Hamas 20:45  |  Benezra 21/08/07   152.   Omran and ethnic cleansing of Jews 20:50  |  peter 21/08/07   153.   Arab Neighbor 20:55  |  Lynn 21/08/07   154.   I meant the mentally-blind (Angelique #149) 20:56  |  Tosefta 21/08/07   155.   Raise your eyes and gaze to the East, Bradley 20:13  |  Clickfool 21/08/07   156.   147Jacob Blues,neither do you get a free pass! Israel does not 21:04  |  lakshmi 21/08/07   157.   Tosefta # 92 The Result Of Keeping Hamas Out 21:09  |  Jeff Northridge 21/08/07   158.   Walid & Hamas 21:09  |  Gil 21/08/07   159.   It is what it is Tosefta 21:10  |  Angelique 21/08/07   160.   Walid can you help me please?? 21:13  |  Danite 21/08/07   161.   Walid and dana 21:15  |  Danite 21/08/07   162.   On collective punishment in Gaza (Yonatan #114) 21:19  |  Tosefta 21/08/07   163.   ChanahS re Walid 21:20  |  Danite 21/08/07   164.   # 3 Walid of Beirut 21:24  |  Lynn 21/08/07   165.   if only ......the palestinians and arabs accepted 21:24  |  maria 21/08/07   166.   Jacob Blues 21:26  |  Walid 21/08/07   167.   Morally blind Tosefta (2nd time Haaretz) 21:33  |  Angelique 21/08/07   168.   Margie in Tel aviv 21:36  |  Walid 21/08/07   169.   These would be the two Palestinian children, Lakshmi 21:44  |  Jacob Blues 21/08/07   170.   Omran # 141 Religious Fanatics 21:46  |  Jeff Northridge 21/08/07   171.   #156 - Laksmi 21:50  |  Deborah 21/08/07   172.   Bradley Burston.Debating is Definitely an art.(Versified Sorry), 21:59  |  Kath` 21/08/07   173.   Haaretz 22:10  |  Danite 21/08/07   174.   This is serving Hamas`s goals, rather than disabling them 22:11  |  Palestinian Prince 21/08/07   175.   Walid & Hamas & Palestinian People 22:17  |  Gil 21/08/07   176.   Danite 22:24  |  Walid 21/08/07   177.   #127 lakshmi, nevertheless Hamas engages in illegitimate 22:25  |  Smadar 21/08/07   178.   #162toosofta and the people of gaza 22:28  |  victor hardman 21/08/07   179.   Advice for Gazans 22:38  |  Tosefta 21/08/07   180.   Pal prin 22:48  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 21/08/07   181.   To Nathalie Durson #12 22:49  |  Otto Rand 21/08/07   182.   Gil 22:53  |  Walid 21/08/07   183.   Hamas 22:56  |  P. J. Casey 21/08/07   184.   Nothing to miscontstrue, Walid 22:57  |  Jacob Blues 21/08/07   185.   To Bill in New Zeeland 23:02  |  Otto Rand 21/08/07   186.   As for what`s going on in Gaza Walid 23:05  |  Jacob Blues 21/08/07   187.   Danite 23:11  |  Walid 21/08/07   188.   #179, message to Tosefta: Warsaw Ghetto 23:13  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 21/08/07   189.   nu reb Tosefta 23:14  |  Angelique 21/08/07   190.   Lynn 23:20  |  Walid 21/08/07   191.   Better stay away from Law (Victor Hardman #178) 23:31  |  Tosefta 21/08/07   192.   75Chanah s. the zionist state was planned long before the 23:32  |  lakshmi 21/08/07   193.   #10 Zev re electricity bill 23:34  |  Labhras 21/08/07   194.   Danite 23:38  |  Walid 21/08/07   195.   169Jacob Blues,contrived analogy,since drugs can be carried 23:47  |  lakshmi 21/08/07   196.   Walid # 145 23:56  |  Moshe 21/08/07   197.   We have reached the hard core (Angelique #182) 23:57  |  Tosefta 21/08/07   198.   walid- no need for translations 23:58  |  Avrum 21/08/07   199.   # 193 lakshmi 00:04  |  Lynn 22/08/07   200.   151Benezra,yes indeed it is very much Indrajaya`s business! 00:07  |  lakshmi 22/08/07   201.   # 181 Cipora Julianna Kohn.Oh Tosefta I did suggest,BUT! 00:14  |  Kath` 22/08/07   202.   177Smadar,since you often use familial analogies,here`s one.It is 00:17  |  lakshmi 22/08/07   203.   Lakshmi #192 00:18  |  Half Nelson 22/08/07   204.   Moshe 00:19  |  Walid 22/08/07   205.   Avrum 00:32  |  Walid 22/08/07   206.   171Deborah,many Palestinians stayed in their villages,many fled 00:33  |  lakshmi 22/08/07   207.   *185 OTTO RAND 00:44  |  Bill 22/08/07   208.   Walid # 119 00:44  |  ChanahS 22/08/07   209.   $178 Hard-man in Bed fast and Tosefta 00:44  |  Labhras 22/08/07   210.   Walid Ya abul Banot, Dana and Bracha 00:48  |  GABE1 22/08/07   211.   Walid # 119 00:49  |  ChanahS 22/08/07   212.   186Jacob Blues,you are either naive or ill informed or both,yes, 00:51  |  lakshmi 22/08/07   213.   Walid #190 01:27  |  Lynn 22/08/07   214.   Jacob Blues #184 01:32  |  GABE1 22/08/07   215.   Tosefta #197 01:38  |  TonyL 22/08/07   216.   Palestinian Prince # 174 That`s a Mouthful (part 2) 01:40  |  Jeff Northridge 22/08/07   217.   Walid thats not what I asked 01:44  |  Danite 22/08/07   218.   #151 Benezra 01:46  |  Labhras 22/08/07   219.   Walid#187 01:49  |  Danite 22/08/07   220.   #137 gil can`t make his mind up 01:53  |  maoriboy 22/08/07   221.   Walid,what have Hamas or Fatah really done for The Pals??? 01:55  |  Ronnie Wolman 22/08/07   222.   #181, Otto Rand 01:59  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 22/08/07   223.   #200 Lakshmi on a different note.......... 02:02  |  Lynn 22/08/07   224.   Bill 02:29  |  truth 22/08/07   225.   #3 Walid 02:46  |  * BEN JABO 22/08/07   226.   #45 Nizo - you know naught of the Altalena 02:51  |  * BEN JABO 22/08/07   227.   Sharon`s separation wall wins , Mecca deal is dead , 02:51  |  Joseph E . 22/08/07   228.   Palestinian Prince # 174 That`s a Mouthful (part 4) 02:53  |  Jeff Northridge 22/08/07   229.   "Hamas the crippled, Gaza the doomed" and Israel... 03:09  |  Maureen Ann 22/08/07   230.   Tosefta and hard or soft headedness 03:13  |  Angelique 22/08/07   231.   #192 Lakshmi 03:26  |  Non Violence 22/08/07   232.   Hey, Tosefta Re: Collective Punishment 04:10  |  Jeff Northridge 22/08/07   233.   Cipora Julianna Kohn 05:11  |  PADDY 22/08/07   234.   Sometimes Lakshmi, size doesn`t matter 05:28  |  Jacob Blues 22/08/07   235.   A Hamas Government of the people by the people and for the people 05:45  |  Efox 22/08/07   236.   #3 Walid 05:54  |  Vic 22/08/07   237.   #220 Jeff Northridge PT1 06:23  |  Labhras 22/08/07   238.   Hamas the cripple, Gaza the doomed 06:27  |  Chris 22/08/07   239.   #220 Jeff Northridge pt 2 06:40  |  Labhras 22/08/07   240.   $216 Jeff Northridge 06:49  |  Labhras 22/08/07   241.   #192 - Lakshmi 07:02  |  JES 22/08/07   242.   Return message to sender (Cipora J. Cone #179) 07:07  |  Tosefta 22/08/07   243.   To Cipora Juliana Cohen 07:07  |  Otto Rand 22/08/07   244.   #193 - Labhras 07:10  |  JES 22/08/07   245.   Ronnie Wolman 07:12  |  Walid 22/08/07   246.   Conspiracy theory regarding Slowman 07:13  |  Bradley Burstein 22/08/07   247.   * BEN JABO 07:42  |  Walid 22/08/07   248.   Vic 08:02  |  Walid 22/08/07   249.   Vic 08:02  |  Walid 22/08/07   250.   Vic 08:03  |  Walid 22/08/07   251.   labarse finally puts something together 08:03  |  victor hardman 22/08/07   252.   #191toosofta thinks that law is static 08:10  |  victor hardman 22/08/07   253.   #240labarse does this mean the british will abandon 08:13  |  victor hardman 22/08/07   254.   Gabe 08:15  |  Walid 22/08/07   255.   #1 Indrajaya 08:15  |  Infidel Too 22/08/07   256.   #224 Calling yourself "Truth" doesn`t give you licence to lie 08:17  |  Hannah 22/08/07   257.   #233, Paddy 08:21  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 22/08/07   258.   To Walid and all those that bash Israel 08:25  |  Zev 22/08/07   259.   ChanahS 08:26  |  Walid 22/08/07   260.   Paddy 08:28  |  Hannah 22/08/07   261.   MAUREEN N & Israel fights a genocidal ideology.An ideology that - 08:32  |  PETER SM 22/08/07   262.   Labhras - why don`t you just fade away 08:36  |  Hannah 22/08/07   263.   JES 08:38  |  Hannah 22/08/07   264.   JES 08:38  |  Hannah 22/08/07   265.   PADDY.hamas refuses to recognise Israel no matter what the border 08:43  |  PETERS SM 22/08/07   266.   Tosefta` s recipe. 08:46  |  Hannah 22/08/07   267.   #201, Kath* 08:49  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 22/08/07   268.   Bradley, It seems you ought to know better... 10:40  |  Dutch 22/08/07   269.   HANNAH The Fact-giver!!! 12:02  |  PADDY 22/08/07   270.   Another fact about Hamastan. 12:36  |  Charles Smyth 22/08/07   271.   About Theodor Herzl being a racist,land grab etc."For Europe we 13:04  |  lakshmi 22/08/07   272.   61 HAMAS on borrowed time 13:35  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 22/08/07   273.   #271 - Lakshmi 13:58  |  JES 22/08/07   274.   Hannah 14:57  |  J.J. Doring 22/08/07   275.   270 CHARLES 15:17  |  JON FEIGENBAUM 22/08/07   276.   #273 Lakshmi 15:40  |  Non Violence 22/08/07   277.   273JES,here is what Herzl said:"We shall try to spirit the 18:13  |  lakshmi 22/08/07   278.   276Non Violence,I have just posted my reply to 273 JES,where I 18:19  |  lakshmi 22/08/07   279.   Hamas must deliver results 19:10  |  B 22/08/07   280.   For Kath a less successful response 19:15  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 22/08/07   281.   Wiorse tha animals. 20:39  |  Charles Smyth 22/08/07   282.   to Kath, its derivation is versification 22:07  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 22/08/07   283.   Dana -- Yawn.... 22:50  |  Lee 22/08/07   284.   Gazeans are Hamas`s hostages 23:15  |  ScotGuy 22/08/07   285.   #278 Lakshmi Stop the Madness 01:12  |  Non Violence 23/08/07   286.   Lakshmi, Cont`d. 02:00  |  Non Violence 23/08/07   287.   margie in TA #282 - more questions than answers but joking aside 07:15  |  dana 23/08/07   288.   #277 - Lakshmi 08:30  |  JES 23/08/07   289.   dana #287 08:35  |  S 23/08/07   290.   JES 09:15  |  Angelique 23/08/07   291.   #289, S 09:59  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 23/08/07   292.   S #289 - off on hyperboles again? 2nd Try 16:23  |  dana 23/08/07   293.   death tolls comparison 17:27  |  Michel 23/08/07   294.   dana #292 20:48  |  S 23/08/07   295.   Bradley got it all wrong - reality check! 21:01  |  Joe 23/08/07   296.   dana: 287 21:13  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 23/08/07   297.   I must ask for S`s forgiveness (S #296; Dana #287) 22:59  |  Tosefta 23/08/07   298.   CJK #267 Who are the terrorists? 23:10  |  American in NY 23/08/07   299.   Tosefta #297 - Important Distinctions - part I 03:04  |  dana 24/08/07   300.   Tosefta #297 - Important Distinctions - part II 03:27  |  dana 24/08/07   301.   We need another class (Dana #299) 06:40  |  Tosefta 24/08/07   302.   Do your homework , Dana #299, 300 etc. 07:02  |  Jasmine Murphy 24/08/07   303.   #298, American in NY 1 07:16  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 24/08/07   304.   #298, American in NY 2 07:33  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 24/08/07   305.   dana (in general) 12:43  |  S 24/08/07   306.   S #305 - response on (general) 19:22  |  dana 24/08/07   307.   dana #306 Goy`s flagelants 21:51  |  S 24/08/07   308.   S and cones (re Dana) 23:03  |  Tosefta 24/08/07   309.   Tosefta 09:05  |  S 25/08/07   310.   Cez`t La Vie (S #309) 16:43  |  Tosefta 25/08/07   311.   Cez`t La Vie (S #309) 20:37  |  Tosefta 25/08/07   312.   #301, Tosefta 09:05  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 26/08/07   313.   #247 Walid - Qassams 18:44  |  * BEN JABO 27/08/07   314.   #247 Walid to Vic 18:46  |  * BEN JABBO 27/08/07   315.   @248 walid 05:31  |  danny 06/12/07

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