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PM, Abbas negotiate core issues on founding Palestinian state
By Barak Ravid, Haaretz Correspondent

Talks between Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas on a future Palestinian state are stuck on the issue of the Palestinian refugee problem, government sources in Jerusalem told Haaretz this week. Abbas is refusing to make significant concessions, the sources said.

They said Abbas and Olmert have in recent weeks been negotiating a new document on the core issues of forming a Palestinian state. The one-page document has five general clauses on central issues such as the permanent borders of the future Palestinian state, the question of jurisdiction over holy sites in Jerusalem, and the Palestinian refugee problem.

Olmert and Abbas have reached several understandings, but have yet to agree on actual resolutions, the sources said, adding that the two leaders will meet at the end of the month to discuss the issues.

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Both Israeli and Palestinian parties involved in the negotiations said the document was meant to be completed for the international peace conference U.S. President George W. Bush plans to hold in the fall.

Foreign diplomats said Abbas' aides told them that the international conference could not take place before the document is completed. Sources at Olmert's office, however, suggested a different approach. "We're hoping to complete the document of principles before the conference, but the meeting does not depend on the document's completion," one said.

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is scheduled to arrive in Israel early next month to try to bridge the gap between the Palestinian and Israeli positions. Rice is reportedly determined to deal with core issues on her next visit, as opposed to tactical problems such as Israeli checkpoints in the West Bank or security concessions aimed at improving living conditions for the Palestinians.

If the document is completed in time it will form the basis for further discussions at the conference, government sources said. An extended Palestinian negotiation team will meet with an Israeli team to discuss each clause at greater length. Sources involved with the negotiations said the Palestinian side had already assembled a team to handle the talks.

Israeli diplomats have yet to set up such a delegation, but Jerusalem is currently forming a negotiating strategy for future talks with the Palestinians. The strategists are also enlisting international support and assistance for the talks.

The strategy is based on three areas:

1. Bilateral talks with the Palestinians. The guidelines for negotiations with the Palestinians are restricted to local issues. The immediate goal will be to weaken Hamas, the Fatah rivals who seized control of the Gaza Strip last June. This would be achieved through a boycott on Hamas amid attempts to bolster Abbas' West Bank government.

2. Regional Arab issues. In its dealings with moderate Arab states, Israel is no longer demanding full recognition. Instead, Israel will seek a gradual rapprochement with the Arab League. Israel aims to secure the Arab League's support and assistance for the international conference. Sources in Jerusalem said, however, that Arab diplomats are skeptical about the conference and fear that it has little chance of breaking the impasse in negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians.

3. Issues concerning the international community and the international Quartet of Mideast mediators. Israel, according to government sources, is seeking additional financial support for Abbas' regime from the United States, Russia, the European Union and the United Nations.

As Israeli diplomatic experts tackle these challenges, government sources believe the plans are hard to implement "even after we reach the document of understating with the Palestinians," one said. For this reason, a source in Jerusalem said that "the negotiations should aspire to pertain to as broad a diplomatic context as possible."
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  1.   Peace Agreement ? Allan forbid 01:58  |  GZLives 17/08/07
  2.   As a Palestinian i say let Palestinians return to Palestine!!!!!! 01:59  |  ALI 17/08/07
  3.   Arab "Wrong" of Return 02:10  |  Ron 17/08/07
  4.   REcognition? Lets Arabs recognize Israel FIRST 02:14  |  David 17/08/07
  5.   #2 ALI 02:27  |  Reuben Jacobs 17/08/07
  6.   It`s A Beautiful Thing - Keep Talking 02:35  |  Jane 17/08/07
  7.   Israel as a Jewish state? 02:36  |  Neil 17/08/07
  8.   For Abbas` Credibility, Let Arab League Run Referendum on "ROR" 02:38  |  dyinglikeflies 17/08/07
  9.   i want likud to... 02:59  |  vik 17/08/07
  10.   If Abbas makes concessions he will be called quisling 03:04  |  Sam 17/08/07
  11.   A TIP OF THE HAT FOR ALI 03:07  |  Brant 17/08/07
  12.   Good luck to your leaders,they have good intention and plan for u 03:13  |  Simon Mohammed 17/08/07
  13.   He can`t do that! 03:17  |  Mark Lincoln 17/08/07
  14.   See, he owes it to BOTH of the men 03:18  |  Mark Lincoln 17/08/07
  15.   Due to unforseen circumstances 03:20  |  Mark Lincoln 17/08/07
  16.   The five points 03:22  |  Mark Lincoln 17/08/07
  17.   Both Olmert and Abbas were seen 03:23  |  Mark Lincoln 17/08/07
  18.   We intend to announce the failure 03:24  |  Mark Lincoln 17/08/07
  19.   This means 03:25  |  Mark Lincoln 17/08/07
  20.   The endless babble solution 03:26  |  Mark Lincoln 17/08/07
  21.   RATIFICATION 03:29  |  Mark of Lewiston 17/08/07
  22.   return 03:38  |  chazak 17/08/07
  23.   The quisling is not going to concede anything,it`s one thing to 03:45  |  lakshmi 17/08/07
  24.   Template for peace 03:53  |  ATLAS 17/08/07
  25.   Turning a Position of Strength Into Weakness 03:58  |  Yoram 17/08/07
  26.   #20- Mark Lincoln 04:18  |  Yoram 17/08/07
  27.   Ali # 2 You are so right. 04:31  |  Lynn 17/08/07
  28.   #12 HI! Simon Mohammed.... 04:33  |  Lynn 17/08/07
  29.   Lakshmi- Who the hell made you the Arab representative? 04:49  |  Sam 17/08/07
  30.   return 04:50  |  ishmael 17/08/07
  31.   Mark Lincoln 05:11  |  TonyL 17/08/07
  32.   The refugee issue is actually the easiest to solve 05:25  |  Tosef duh 17/08/07
  33.   Palestinians have yet to make a single concession in 60 years 05:25  |  McQueen 17/08/07
  34.   Advice to Olmert 05:29  |  Edgar 17/08/07
  35.   Neither Yoram nor Lakshmi need to worry-no peace in our time 05:39  |  Voice of Reason 17/08/07
  36.   To #24: ATLAS 05:56  |  Abe 17/08/07
  37.   Mark Lincoln read Mark of Lewiston 06:05  |  Danite 17/08/07
  38.   Very Good -Abbas keep the pressure up 06:08  |  Danite 17/08/07
  39.   # 33 Abe`s Jerusalem question 06:37  |  ATLAS 17/08/07
  40.   #20 06:40  |  bill 17/08/07
  41.   #30 06:45  |  bill 17/08/07
  42.   #30 McQueen makes an odd statement 07:11  |  Johnboy 17/08/07
  43.   Sam re Lakshmi 07:17  |  Danite 17/08/07
  44.   Man, ya` just gotta laugh! 07:26  |  Johnboy 17/08/07
  45.   We Need More #2s 07:29  |  Tod Zuckerman 17/08/07
  46.   bycott hamas....! 07:31  |  ravi 17/08/07
  47.   without naming any names 08:00  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 17/08/07
  48.   McQueen - Palestinians and Compromise 08:02  |  Bill 17/08/07
  49.   #14, Mark Lincoln 08:03  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 17/08/07
  50.   #16, Mark Lincoln 08:07  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 17/08/07
  51.   #31, Tony L, and Danite 08:12  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 17/08/07
  52.   Bill of Brisbane - The Indian Wars 08:20  |  Mark of Lewiston 17/08/07
  53.   Bill of Brisbane - The Indian Wars - 2 08:25  |  Mark of Lewiston 17/08/07
  54.   PA tourney named after terrorist 08:28  |  Ken Jurist 17/08/07
  55.   What`s this about Peace Talks in Amman 08:30  |  ralphsrant1 17/08/07
  56.   GZLives - Allan? Forbid 08:34  |  Monty Python Lives 17/08/07
  57.   Ken Jurist - Names 08:47  |  Mark of Lewiston 17/08/07
  58.   Here is an equitable and quite practicable diplomatic horizon: 09:37  |  Uzi 17/08/07
  59.   Improvement 10:08  |  indrajaya 17/08/07
  60.   neil from auckland #7 10:30  |  scanadu 17/08/07
  61.   answer to indrajaya at # 59 10:43  |  scanadu 17/08/07
  62.   Rule of thumb 11:42  |  Hannah 17/08/07
  63.   Why adopt a new list of principles? 11:54  |  Giles Martin 17/08/07
  64.   Head over heels to a new disaster 12:27  |  Alicia 17/08/07
  65.   #42 johnboy palestinain compromise ?un 242 13:00  |  duncan 17/08/07
  66.   the tale of 90 years of blether,arabs will be arabs 13:13  |  victor hardman 17/08/07
  67.   How can any one trust the idiots who negotiated Oslo 13:17  |  El-Birawi 17/08/07
  68.   #65 get it right duncan johnboy doesnt 13:24  |  victor hardman 17/08/07
  69.   The PRESTO PEACE conference! 15:10  |  sandra chitayat 17/08/07
  70.   El Birawe Strange grounds for objection 15:41  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 17/08/07
  71.   All these UN resolutions are non-binding anyway 15:43  |  Angelique 17/08/07
  72.   El Birawi- It`s not just the negotiators, it`s the issues too 15:51  |  Sam 17/08/07
  73.   The fun part... 15:54  |  sandra chitayat 17/08/07
  74.   67El Birawi,equating Hamas & fatah sounds fine on paper,but does 16:00  |  lakshmi 17/08/07
  75.   THERE WILL BE BE ONE 16:14  |  indrajaya 17/08/07
  76.   THERE WILL NEVER BE ONE 16:30  |  indrajaya 17/08/07
  77.   43Danite,anyone who has been reading my posts would know that I 16:33  |  lakshmi 17/08/07
  78.   67 El-Birawi - Trust 16:43  |  Mark of Lewiston 17/08/07
  79.   mark lincoln from#15 to#20 16:47  |  scanadu 17/08/07
  80.   Olmert does not plan on peace 16:51  |  Tosefta 17/08/07
  81.   The litmus paper in finding the real partner. 17:02  |  Akram Zekaria 17/08/07
  82.   abbas can make no concessions if he wants to stay alive 18:18  |  victor hardman 17/08/07
  83.   There is nothing to negotiate 18:18  |  Gee 17/08/07
  84.   Mark of Lewiston - the bottom line 18:26  |  Mark Lincoln 17/08/07
  85.   Tosefta - wasting time is the strategy 18:29  |  Mark Lincoln 17/08/07
  86.   Art of Diplomacy 18:39  |  heinz 17/08/07
  87.   78Mark of Lewiston&EL Birawi,the `people` of Palestine will be 18:53  |  lakshmi 17/08/07
  88.   Will they take Israeli citizenship, call themselves Israelis? 19:18  |  Tom 17/08/07
  89.   Mark Lincoln - The Indian Wars Bottom Line 19:36  |  Mark of Lewiston 17/08/07
  90.   The devil is in the details 19:43  |  El-Birawi 17/08/07
  91.   #56 57 VARIETIES OF THE KAMA SUTRA SAYS HEINZ 19:44  |  paul harris 17/08/07
  92.   87 Lakshmi 19:49  |  Mark of Lewiston 17/08/07
  93.   Tosefta # 80 Recognition & UNGAR 194 19:57  |  Jeff Northridge 17/08/07
  94.   It always goes back to the mythical right of return 20:08  |  Gina 17/08/07
  95.   Mark Lincoln 20:18  |  Gina 17/08/07
  96.   Not enough credit to reality (Mark Lincoln #85) 20:21  |  Tosefta 17/08/07
  97.   If they are stuck on one issue, perhaps there`s progress in the 20:22  |  Gina 17/08/07
  98.   "93 Jeff Northridge re recognition 20:24  |  Labhras 17/08/07
  99.   Not interested (Jeff Northridge #93) 20:26  |  Tosefta 17/08/07
  100.   victor hardman, kind of like Y. Rabin? 20:30  |  Ibrahim 17/08/07
  101.   Indian wars, bottom line 20:57  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 17/08/07
  102.   Gina #94 20:58  |  guido 17/08/07
  103.   El-Birawi: I Vote for YOU!!!! 21:02  |  Ronnie Wolman 17/08/07
  104.   98Labhras,good question,&92 Mark of Lewiston, 21:03  |  lakshmi 17/08/07
  105.   El- Birawi 21:12  |  Gina 17/08/07
  106.   so-called right of return will never be acceptable to Israel 21:13  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 17/08/07
  107.   A "Palestinian state" will have to be only on part of 21:17  |  Rachel 17/08/07
  108.   Let 1st Generation Pal. Refugees Return 21:18  |  dan 17/08/07
  109.   Chinese wisdom for Jeff Northridge 21:25  |  Barak Ravid 17/08/07
  110.   The sum total of Hardmans contribution today 21:49  |  Labhras 17/08/07
  111.   Labhras # 98 Because... 21:55  |  Jeff Northridge 17/08/07
  112.   #102, guido 21:57  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 17/08/07
  113.   El-Birawi - on moving forward 22:01  |  Sam 17/08/07
  114.   #80 Tosefta, Tosefta, Tosefta,..... 22:07  |  Smadar 17/08/07
  115.   #109, universal wisdom for the unwise 22:09  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 17/08/07
  116.   Right Of Return Snags... 22:17  |  Ibrahim 17/08/07
  117.   guido # 102 Not Quite Correct (part 1) 22:18  |  Jeff Northridge 17/08/07
  118.   Too much credit 22:30  |  Mark Lincoln 17/08/07
  119.   The advantage of being clear-eyed (Smadar #114) 22:31  |  Tosefta 17/08/07
  120.   Incompetence vs Ill Will 22:33  |  Mark Lincoln 17/08/07
  121.   guido # 102 Not Quite Correct (part 2) 22:57  |  Jeff Northridge 17/08/07
  122.   The Palestinians don`t have to negotiate anything! 22:58  |  Safa 17/08/07
  123.   Thank you for keeping discussion alive! #8/21 practicable... 23:00  |  J.M.Jordan 17/08/07
  124.   107Rachel,won`t work because a Palestinian state must not only 23:09  |  lakshmi 17/08/07
  125.   Cipora Julianna Kohn #31 23:09  |  TonyL 17/08/07
  126.   Barak Ravid # 109 Confucius Say... 23:12  |  Jeff Northridge 17/08/07
  127.   El-Birawi #67 & 90 23:12  |  TonyL 17/08/07
  128.   #111 Jeff Northridge 23:21  |  Labhras 17/08/07
  129.   CJK #115 re: Universal wisdom 23:30  |  TonyL 17/08/07
  130.   Ibrahim # 116 The Dark Side 23:39  |  Jeff Northridge 17/08/07
  131.   Complete waste of time and money. Abbas won`t be leader of PA for 23:40  |  Reuven 17/08/07
  132.   lakshmi #124 23:45  |  TonyL 17/08/07
  133.   Wisdom replacement operation (Jeff Northridge #126) 23:47  |  Barak Ravid 17/08/07
  134.   Ancient wisdom for Cipora J. Kohn 23:48  |  Barak Ravid 17/08/07
  135.   #129, Tony L 23:53  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 17/08/07
  136.   Ethnic Cleansing of Gaza`s Jews: An ATTACK Against All Jews & Fre 23:58  |  Linda Rivera 17/08/07
  137.   Mark of Lewiston re the Inddian wars 00:01  |  danite 18/08/07
  138.   lakshmi 00:03  |  Danite 18/08/07
  139.   Mark of Lewiston and the bottom line 00:06  |  Danite 18/08/07
  140.   Ibrahim please 00:10  |  danite 18/08/07
  141.   Jeff Northridge, of course I haven`t forgotten 00:11  |  Ibrahim 18/08/07
  142.   Labhras #128 00:14  |  TonyL 18/08/07
  143.   Labhras your CLAIM OF THEFT CONTINUED 00:16  |  Gil 18/08/07
  144.   Safa # 122 Wow! That`s A Mouthful Of Bull 00:33  |  Jeff Northridge 18/08/07
  145.   132TonyL,too little,too late,the Palestinians have been 00:38  |  lakshmi 18/08/07
  146.   Mark Lincoln #120 vs Tosefta #80 and Petimists vs opsimists 00:39  |  dana 18/08/07
  147.   "130 Jeff Northridge 00:40  |  Labhras 18/08/07
  148.   "130 Jeff Northridge 00:46  |  Labhras 18/08/07
  149.   Bush`s wisdom on Slowman`s education 00:52  |  Barak Ravid 18/08/07
  150.   "135 Linda Rivera plucks number from where. 01:01  |  Labhras 18/08/07
  151.   9, vik, you conditions are for mashiakh. i am a 01:09  |  vladimir 18/08/07
  152.   #139 Tony L 01:09  |  Labhras 18/08/07
  153.   #133, new wisdom for the ancient 01:09  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/08/07
  154.   #140 Gil But it sure kept you busy didn,t it. 01:13  |  Labhras 18/08/07
  155.   Ibrahim#141 01:15  |  Danite 18/08/07
  156.   NO MANDATE TO DIVIDE ERETZ YISRAEL ESTABLISH ISLAMIC STATE ? 01:29  |  Bill 18/08/07
  157.   This existential fight will never be resolved by talk. 01:50  |  Chaim 18/08/07
  158.   reply to Jeff Northridge re International Law 02:02  |  Safa 18/08/07
  159.   Lakshmi #145 02:16  |  TonyL 18/08/07
  160.   Barak Ravid # 133 Ancient Wisdom 02:22  |  Jeff Northridge 18/08/07
  161.   #65 No Duncan, that is a foolish claim 02:26  |  Johnboy 18/08/07
  162.   Labhras re: Jeff Northridge 02:27  |  TonyL 18/08/07
  163.   How a Nation Stays Free: Judge Young to the Shoe Bomber: 02:32  |  Linda Rivera 18/08/07
  164.   Danite, I have a suggestion 02:35  |  Ibrahim 18/08/07
  165.   Danite #155 02:36  |  Ibrahim 18/08/07
  166.   legislate law forbiding contact with terror Hamas , 02:41  |  Joseph E . 18/08/07
  167.   To the person imitating Labhras #152 02:42  |  TonyL 18/08/07
  168.   Labhras # 148 That`s Just The Point 02:42  |  Jeff Northridge 18/08/07
  169.   Chaim, your worldview is dark and sinister 02:43  |  Ibrahim 18/08/07
  170.   Guido 02:43  |  Gina 18/08/07
  171.   158Safa,good reply to Howdy Jeff who has been repeating 02:52  |  lakshmi 18/08/07
  172.   Kadima is in violation of counter terrorism policies 03:01  |  Joseph E . 18/08/07
  173.   Danite - oh really? Yes, in part! 03:04  |  Mark Lincoln 18/08/07
  174.   Cipora Julianna Kohn # 153 That Was Beautiful! 03:04  |  Jeff Northridge 18/08/07
  175.   How Kemosabi Danite 03:06  |  Mark Lincoln 18/08/07
  176.   Ali 03:28  |  Connie 18/08/07
  177.   Labhras, regarding recognition 03:28  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/08/07
  178.   #174, Jeff Northridge 03:35  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/08/07
  179.   120# Here I rest my case Mr Mark Lincoln. 03:49  |  Akram Zekaria 18/08/07
  180.   Ibrahim #164 03:52  |  TonyL 18/08/07
  181.   RE: A TIP OF THE HAT FOR ALI 04:05  |  Philosopher 18/08/07
  182.   I just don`t believe in evil without a purpose (Dana #146) 04:09  |  Tosefta 18/08/07
  183.   Advice to the Arabs 04:13  |  Tosefta 18/08/07
  184.   # 148 Labhras, Pal`s must run, while they can 04:21  |  Misha 18/08/07
  185.   Israel`s promises to the UN (Lakshmi #171; re Safa) 04:25  |  Tosefta 18/08/07
  186.   # 98 Very simple, Labhras..... 04:41  |  Misha 18/08/07
  187.   #183, Tosefta 04:54  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/08/07
  188.   #185, Tosefta 05:15  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/08/07
  189.   #177 You make no sense, Cipora 05:30  |  Johnboy 18/08/07
  190.   #158, Safa, regarding "right of return" 05:45  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/08/07
  191.   Akram - I have seen incompetents, cowards and 05:54  |  Mark Lincoln 18/08/07
  192.   Tosefta - evil 06:02  |  Mark Lincoln 18/08/07
  193.   Tosefta - the pursuit of evil 06:08  |  Mark Lincoln 18/08/07
  194.   Toseftas - proposal to the Arabs 06:13  |  Mark Lincoln 18/08/07
  195.   #189, john 06:18  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/08/07
  196.   Safa # 158 International Law 06:19  |  Jeff Northridge 18/08/07
  197.   What Cipora is saying Tosefta is 06:23  |  Mark Lincoln 18/08/07
  198.   Ibrahim 06:27  |  Danite 18/08/07
  199.   Mark Lincoln#175 06:34  |  Danite 18/08/07
  200.   #193, Mark Lincoln...and don`t forget also... 06:42  |  Silvienne 18/08/07
  201.   Right of Return and International Law 06:42  |  Safa 18/08/07
  202.   # 190 wrt Right of Return and International Law 06:47  |  Safa 18/08/07
  203.   Mark Lincoln : Rationality PLEASE. 07:00  |  Akram Zekaria 18/08/07
  204.   #193 Mark Lincoln - evil it is - judged by actions 07:05  |  dana 18/08/07
  205.   #197, Mark Lincoln 07:06  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/08/07
  206.   #201-202, Safa 07:23  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/08/07
  207.   #204, dana 07:34  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/08/07
  208.   191# 2) Rationality PLEASE. 07:35  |  Akram Zekaria 18/08/07
  209.   #196, Jeff Northridge 07:39  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/08/07
  210.   wasting time or something at last? 07:51  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/08/07
  211.   post #210 is not mine 08:02  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/08/07
  212.   core issues 08:06  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/08/07
  213.   3)191# Mark Lincol: Rationality PLEASE 08:15  |  Akram Zekaria 18/08/07
  214.   Ibrahim-#141-Jewish and Arab refugees issue unrelated? 08:20  |  Daniel Leopold 18/08/07
  215.   Akram Zekaria 08:29  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/08/07
  216.   #100 ibrahim and fact are lands apart 08:31  |  victor hardman 18/08/07
  217.   CJK #187 re: Tsosefta #183 09:02  |  TonyL 18/08/07
  218.   Ibrahim 10:07  |  Walid 18/08/07
  219.   #201safa blunders on refugees return 10:07  |  victor hardman 18/08/07
  220.   #217, Tony L 10:20  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/08/07
  221.   Safa-#-The Right of Return and International Law 10:26  |  Daniel Leopold 18/08/07
  222.   #221 Daniel Leopold makes some bold claims 11:05  |  Johnboy 18/08/07
  223.   #222, john 11:36  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/08/07
  224.   201Safa exactly right,Tosefta,185,I have already given the 11:47  |  lakshmi 18/08/07
  225.   Cipora JK #207 - what`s the world coming to if 12:37  |  dana 18/08/07
  226.   Where is Tony Blair? 12:59  |  Alex 18/08/07
  227.   Keeping the old man busy 13:00  |  Angelique 18/08/07
  228.   #222johnboy spending too long in the ozzie sun 13:21  |  victor hardman 18/08/07
  229.   Arab Muslims warred against Jewish Israel for decades 13:32  |  I dont understand 18/08/07
  230.   The state is allready there, it is just occupied 13:42  |  Fritz 18/08/07
  231.   Safa # 201 UNGAR 194 15:45  |  Jeff Northridge 18/08/07
  232.   #230FRITZ IS CORRECT THE STATE IS CALLED JORDAN 16:08  |  paul harris 18/08/07
  233.   So easy to understand, so hard for the biased mind (Lakshmi #224) 16:35  |  Tosefta 18/08/07
  234.   Iakshmi # 224 What? 16:42  |  Jeff Northridge 18/08/07
  235.   "Evil" Bush (Mark Lincoln; Dana #204) 16:53  |  Tosefta 18/08/07
  236.   #171 - Lakshmi 17:00  |  JES 18/08/07
  237.   231Jeff Northridge to Safa,wrong,israel was admitted to the U.N. 17:17  |  lakshmi 18/08/07
  238.   #222 - Johnboy - Glad it`s not your problem 17:18  |  JES 18/08/07
  239.   #119 Tosefta, ... more clear-eyed than you think 17:18  |  Smadar 18/08/07
  240.   #224 - Lakshmi - "Viability"? 17:23  |  JES 18/08/07
  241.   Cipora Julianna Kohn # 209 I Just Don`t Know 17:23  |  Jeff Northridge 18/08/07
  242.   #234 Jeff Northridge part one 18:16  |  Labhras 18/08/07
  243.   "Evil" Bush (Mark Lincoln; Dana #204) 18:43  |  Tosefta 18/08/07
  244.   Resolution 181 (Lakshmi #235) 19:03  |  Tosefta 18/08/07
  245.   233Tosefta,let me try again: The peres 5% swap in the west bank 19:08  |  lakshmi 18/08/07
  246.   237Smadar,I`m afraid your `beautiful`Canadian morning while still 19:27  |  lakshmi 18/08/07
  247.   Smadar where do you get 1.4 million? 19:47  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 18/08/07
  248.   Iakshmi # 235 Israel`s Admission To The UN (part 1) 19:55  |  Jeff Northridge 18/08/07
  249.   #235 - Sorry Lakshmi.... 20:04  |  JES 18/08/07
  250.   Sorry again, Lakshmi 20:16  |  JES 18/08/07
  251.   Iakshmi # 235 Israel`s Admission To The UN (part 2) 20:20  |  Jeff Northridge 18/08/07
  252.   Tosefta - evil people 20:28  |  Mark Lincoln 18/08/07
  253.   Israel`s absolute dependence on Partition Resolution 181(11) for 20:29  |  lakshmi 18/08/07
  254.   Fable for a mule and a fool (Jeff Northridge, Cipora J. Kohn) 20:34  |  Barak Ravid 18/08/07
  255.   Tosefta - why I quit supporting Bush 20:35  |  Mark Lincoln 18/08/07
  256.   # 2 Ali 20:37  |  Akram Alnusseibi 18/08/07
  257.   Safa-Palestinians Will NEVER Have the Right of Return 20:38  |  Jane 18/08/07
  258.   # 2 Ali 20:39  |  AlMassri 18/08/07
  259.   Resolution 181 20:39  |  Mark Lincoln 18/08/07
  260.   Bush Has 18 Months Left in Term 20:41  |  Jane 18/08/07
  261.   Labhras your CLAIM OF THEFT (#154) 20:45  |  Gil 18/08/07
  262.   # 122 - Safa 20:50  |  Dagma 18/08/07
  263.   Diplomacy on Mars (Cipora #187) 20:57  |  Tosefta 18/08/07
  264.   WITH JERUSALEM AS A PALESTIN OFCORSE ! 21:00  |  YOU SEE! 18/08/07
  265.   # 226 where is T Blair ? 21:01  |  Makhlouf 18/08/07
  266.   #231 Jeff on UN acceptance. 21:05  |  Labhras 18/08/07
  267.   Iakshmi # 241 Territorial Contiguity 21:15  |  Jeff Northridge 18/08/07
  268.   right of return for Jews also ? 21:25  |  Altalena 18/08/07
  269.   #245, not so-called right of return 21:31  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/08/07
  270.   For the censors 21:36  |  Labhras 18/08/07
  271.   #239, Jeff Northridge 21:38  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/08/07
  272.   Fable for a mule and a fool (Jeff Northridge, Cipora J. Kohn) 21:45  |  Barak Ravid 18/08/07
  273.   # 185 Tosefta 21:47  |  Dagma 18/08/07
  274.   #248, Tosefta 21:55  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/08/07
  275.   # 156 Indeed, no mandate 21:56  |  Jack 18/08/07
  276.   # 183 Your advice to the Arabs 22:06  |  Moni Salem 18/08/07
  277.   #249, the one who never thinks 22:11  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 18/08/07
  278.   #234 Jeff Northridge 22:12  |  Labhras 18/08/07
  279.   #245 - Still sorry Lakshmi 22:18  |  JES 18/08/07
  280.   #270 lab the brass complains about cutting out her tripe 22:19  |  victor hardman 18/08/07
  281.   Final clarification on 181 (Lakshmi #250) 22:20  |  Tosefta 18/08/07
  282.   Labhras # 268 It`s The Sabbath! 22:25  |  Jeff Northridge 18/08/07
  283.   #266 -Labhras: Irrelevant 22:28  |  JES 18/08/07
  284.   #278 LABARSE FORGETS THE 1949 ARMISTICE 22:33  |  paul harris 18/08/07
  285.   266Labhras,quite right! ML 259,JES 250,244 tosefta,see my post 22:37  |  lakshmi 18/08/07
  286.   The reason for Martian failures on Earth (Cipora #271) 22:38  |  Tosefta 18/08/07
  287.   #278 - Labhras: Again not to the point 22:45  |  JES 18/08/07
  288.   #247 Margie in Tel Aviv 23:19  |  Smadar 18/08/07
  289.   The refugees (Dagma #273) 23:23  |  Tosefta 18/08/07
  290.   Barak Ravid # 272 Two Sides (part 1) 23:33  |  Jeff Northridge 18/08/07
  291.   Jack and God the real estate brokers 23:42  |  Labhras 18/08/07
  292.   Barak Ravid # 272 Two Sides (part 2) 23:46  |  Jeff Northridge 18/08/07
  293.   Arab and Jewish refugees (Smadar #239) 23:51  |  Tosefta 18/08/07
  294.   # 189 Johnboy.IF THE OFFER WAS SO TERRIBLY ATTRACTIVE TO ISRAEL ? 00:06  |  Kath` 19/08/07
  295.   Tosefta #235 - more on the "evil" of Bush 00:10  |  dana 19/08/07
  296.   267Howdy Jeff,aren`t you the same person who recently said that 00:24  |  lakshmi 19/08/07
  297.   Diplomacy on Mars - Tosefta 00:44  |  Mark Lincoln 19/08/07
  298.   Labhras - Join the club of Censored People 00:52  |  Gil 19/08/07
  299.   #171 Lakshmi re ad hoc comm 01:16  |  Labhras 19/08/07
  300.   215# Cipora.Knowledge without the truth could be dangerous. 01:21  |  Akram Zekaria 19/08/07
  301.   Jane - peace is a goal for you and I, but not everyone 01:21  |  Mark Lincoln 19/08/07
  302.   215# Cipora.Knowledge without the truth could be dangerous. 01:21  |  Akram Zekaria 19/08/07
  303.   Tosefta 01:25  |  Ben Gurion 19/08/07
  304.   Jane, the Right is the right 01:29  |  Mark Lincoln 19/08/07
  305.   where is T Blair? 01:30  |  Mark Lincoln 19/08/07
  306.   #169 Ibrahim. My worldview isn`t dark. It is an existential fight 01:35  |  Chaim 19/08/07
  307.   Labhras vs. Jeff Northridge RES 242 (1) 01:39  |  Gil 19/08/07
  308.   Labhras vs. Jeff Northridge RES 242 (2) 01:40  |  Gil 19/08/07
  309.   2)215# Cipora.Knowledge without the truth could be dangerous. 01:55  |  Akram Zekaria 19/08/07
  310.   How many refugees are left 01:58  |  Other Voices 19/08/07
  311.   Labhras # 266 That Wasn`t The Point 02:02  |  Jeff Northridge 19/08/07
  312.   #283, Ben Gurion 02:09  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 19/08/07
  313.   #223 Where you go wrong, Cipora 02:11  |  Johnboy 19/08/07
  314.   #238 JES thinks its all the victims fault 02:15  |  Johnboy 19/08/07
  315.   Tosefta #235 - more on the "evil" of Bush, 2nd TRY 02:21  |  dana 19/08/07
  316.   Re: Resolution 194 (Part 1)... 02:28  |  Mimi 19/08/07
  317.   Iakshmi # 279 They Are Two Different Things 02:44  |  Jeff Northridge 19/08/07
  318.   Re: Resolution 194 (Part 2)... 02:46  |  Mimi 19/08/07
  319.   254 Barak Ravid,thanks for a good laugh,whoever you are! 02:53  |  lakshmi 19/08/07
  320.   Final clarification on 181 (Lakshmi #250) 02:56  |  Tosefta 19/08/07
  321.   The reason for Martian failures on Earth (Cipora #271) 02:57  |  Tosefta 19/08/07
  322.   The refugees (Dagma #273) 02:58  |  Tosefta 19/08/07
  323.   Arab and Jewish refugees (Smadar #239) 02:58  |  Tosefta 19/08/07
  324.   Where are all the posts? 03:13  |  Barak Ravid 19/08/07
  325.   Ben Buffo 03:13  |  Mark Lincoln 19/08/07
  326.   Chaim - then one must be exterminated 03:15  |  Mark Lincoln 19/08/07
  327.   Re: Resolution 194 (Part 3)... 03:17  |  Mimi 19/08/07
  328.   #302 - No Johnboy 03:53  |  JES 19/08/07
  329.   #248 Jeff Northridge (Lakshmi) part one 03:53  |  Labhras 19/08/07
  330.   Palestinian Refugee Compensation/Restitution Claims 04:01  |  Mimi 19/08/07
  331.   #248 Jeff Northridge part two 04:03  |  Labhras 19/08/07
  332.   Walid 04:12  |  Ibrahim 19/08/07
  333.   #311 Jeff 04:19  |  Labhras 19/08/07
  334.   Tosefta - 1948 05:25  |  Mark Lincoln 19/08/07
  335.   Tosefta and that is the dangerous delusion 05:29  |  Mark Lincoln 19/08/07
  336.   #183 Toefta and advice...... 05:30  |  Lynn 19/08/07
  337.   population growth rates 05:31  |  Mark Lincoln 19/08/07
  338.   #189 Johnboy 05:35  |  Lynn 19/08/07
  339.   Johnboy-#222-Your arguments don`t stand scrutiny 05:57  |  Daniel Leopold 19/08/07
  340.   Israeli Borders 06:07  |  Le Corbeau 19/08/07
  341.   # 333, Labhras, nobody ever claimed that all jews are smart... 06:18  |  Misha 19/08/07
  342.   Poor Labhras 06:35  |  Danite 19/08/07
  343.   #340 LE CORBEAU DOESNT KNOW SHEET 06:52  |  paul harris 19/08/07
  344.   PAL`s Wake up and Small The Roses 07:30  |  Neil Golan 19/08/07
  345.   #297, Mark Lincoln 09:07  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 19/08/07
  346.   345# Mark Lincoln:The prophet without divine intervention. 06:10  |  Akram Zekaria 20/08/07
  347.   323# Tosefta. and his bankcrupt stool. 06:56  |  Akram Zekaria 20/08/07
  348.   338# Mark Lincoln: `His Master Voice`. 07:56  |  Akram Zekaria 20/08/07
  349.   To: Mark Lincoln in reply to his post 255. 12:02  |  Akram Zekaria. 20/08/07
  350.   345# No Cipora : He is peter pan the Great. 18:09  |  Akram Zekaria 20/08/07
  351.   1)106#Cipora. Think about the Balkan & USSR. 04:40  |  Akram Zekaria 31/08/07
  352.   2)106# Cipora Think about the Balkan & USSR 04:56  |  Akram Zekaria 31/08/07
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